Ok, so during my entire WoW career, the only BG I've done was WSG. And only because I did BG's at very low levels. (so it's all that was available)
I finally did EotS and AB last night. AB sucked, it appears alliance just loses that one. But EotS was so much fun. And I more than tripled my honor in one night. (from 1k to just about 4k) That was like 5 fast games, with about a 30 second queue time.
So it seems the winning strat for EotS is to just cap the towers from the start and ignore the flags until they're secure. At which point, if you feel like it, you can go grab a flag. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS! It doesn't make sense, I learned how to win in about 5 minutes. What's wrong with the other people?
AB didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So we grab the different resource nodes right? Ok, did that. And then based off last night, our next objective is to let horde take them from us right? Ok... doesn't seem smart.... Ok, next, frantically defend the last node you have? Uh huh........ What's the secret to winning here?
I'm going to try AV tonight. How do I not be a retard?
When I'm at home I'm never not listening to music while playing WoW. It's not hard to differentiate people whose instructions matter and just ignore the rest, so I can generally turn music up loud enough that I'm "in the zone" or whatever, without being completely blind.
When I'm at home I'm never not listening to music while playing WoW. It's not hard to differentiate people whose instructions matter and just ignore the rest, so I can generally turn music up loud enough that I'm "in the zone" or whatever, without being completely blind.
Magus`The fun has been DOUBLED!Registered Userregular
edited December 2007
I'm just really good at managing my time. I leave WoW on whenever I'm on the computer, just in case someone needs to message me. As for how I got there that fast, the 2.3 EXP boost was a big deal, as was plotting out quests as to save time.
I'd say I played about 3-4 hours a day (with it being on about 10+) while I did school work/house work. You can thank Medopine and Dhalphir (among a few others) for giving me tips on how to play, though. The main reason I got on WoW is because I have so much time between working/school that I desired a time sink. There is just enough down time (such as flying from one place to another) that I can get all sorts of shit done while my character is running here or there.
Now that finals are coming up I'm cutting my time down quite a bit, though. Shouldn't matter as I need to wait to make Spellcloth, anyhow.
That's where I fall. It's amazing how effective a well timed joke was with us for Leo. We had been having the usual "15% OMG NUKE NUKE THOR SHOT HIM!" issues until a joke was cracked. It broke the insanity and really helped us realize to just keep it chill with him.
I actually ment this http://wiki.dumpshock.com/index.php/Thor_shot . For the link impaired it's a kinetic strike, for those times when you want the firepower of a nuke but need the real estate usable in the next few years.
Ok, so during my entire WoW career, the only BG I've done was WSG. And only because I did BG's at very low levels. (so it's all that was available)
I finally did EotS and AB last night. AB sucked, it appears alliance just loses that one. But EotS was so much fun. And I more than tripled my honor in one night. (from 1k to just about 4k) That was like 5 fast games, with about a 30 second queue time.
So it seems the winning strat for EotS is to just cap the towers from the start and ignore the flags until they're secure. At which point, if you feel like it, you can go grab a flag. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS! It doesn't make sense, I learned how to win in about 5 minutes. What's wrong with the other people?
AB didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So we grab the different resource nodes right? Ok, did that. And then based off last night, our next objective is to let horde take them from us right? Ok... doesn't seem smart.... Ok, next, frantically defend the last node you have? Uh huh........ What's the secret to winning here?
I'm going to try AV tonight. How do I not be a retard?
Haha oh boy, welcome to Alliance PVP.
In AV - stealth to objectives and capture them. That's really the most useful thing a rogue can do. In group pvp you're usually fucked, but you can try to knock off casters in between getting AOE'd out of stealth and pummeled by MS warriors.
Well EotS was fun, and seemed kinda 50/50 as far as which side wins. (well, until we organised and got on vent) Plus I mostly just want to get the s1 daggers and some other pvp gear to go arena in. So I don't really care if we lose, but it sure is fun to win.
I mean, I heard stories of horde dominating pvp. But man, that AB just sucked.
Ok, so during my entire WoW career, the only BG I've done was WSG. And only because I did BG's at very low levels. (so it's all that was available)
I finally did EotS and AB last night. AB sucked, it appears alliance just loses that one. But EotS was so much fun. And I more than tripled my honor in one night. (from 1k to just about 4k) That was like 5 fast games, with about a 30 second queue time.
So it seems the winning strat for EotS is to just cap the towers from the start and ignore the flags until they're secure. At which point, if you feel like it, you can go grab a flag. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS! It doesn't make sense, I learned how to win in about 5 minutes. What's wrong with the other people?
AB didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So we grab the different resource nodes right? Ok, did that. And then based off last night, our next objective is to let horde take them from us right? Ok... doesn't seem smart.... Ok, next, frantically defend the last node you have? Uh huh........ What's the secret to winning here?
I'm going to try AV tonight. How do I not be a retard?
You're on Dark Iron, right? Lot of forumers here are on Shadowburn: Sargeras, ED, DI, and I was most recently on Greymane.
Shadowburn Alliance sucks. Hard. Get used to it. AV used to be the only winning Battleground for Alliance, but with the new changes, I suspect that they just lose across the board now.
Now that I've moved from Shadowburn to Bloodlust, things have changed quite a bit. 2.3 AV is Horde's playground, AB is about 50/50, Warsong goes to whoever is running the premade, and Eye of the Storm is sole property of the Alliance (to the point where games are now starting to end prematurely for lack of Horde players).
Take a public speaking class, douche-fag, and call me when you can be concise.
For the love of god, this. I like my raid a lot, but some of the people who are otherwise really smart will just ramble on for ever and ever, to the point that I (as a pretty talkative person) just take the headset off and wait for the ready check to pop up. My raidleader and I approached Abbot & Costello levels of stupid last night trying to figure out Naj'entus positioning. I will transcribe our voicechat from memory.
(This was after moving some people around, included me, was discussed.)
Me: so, would someone tell me what position I'm at?
RL: yeah, [holy priest], just go back to west. [more crosstalk]
Me: where do I go?
RL: okay, looks good... kana, where are you standing?
Me: I don't know.
RL: yeah, which side are you on for the fight?
Me: That's what I keep asking you, chief.
At this point our other warlock broke in and basically yelled that since I didn't know where I was supposed to stand, I wasn't very likely to answer the RL's question, and we sorted it out. It's the most frustrating thing when people fail at listening.
Anyway, the best 'fuckup' moment we ever had was when the same RL hit the wrong macro and gave us a readycheck right at the start of Kael phase 4, during the first pyroblast. Apparently this flustered the MT and he died, and we wiped. Now, every so often on farm bosses, someone who randomly has raid assist will pop one up and we'll get a good laugh out of it.
We talk a fair amount during bossfights too, but when we're struggling with something everyone gets quiet.
Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Question for the ages, how long until the braindead lemmings in my battlegroup realize that holding one tower and scoring with every flag will still lose you the game if the other team controls three towers?
Question for the ages, how long until the braindead lemmings in my battlegroup realize that holding one tower and scoring with every flag will still lose you the game if the other team controls three towers?
Roughly the same time the idiot horde on my server realize you can't just all go on zerg offense in AV and expect to win when the alliance has like 15-20 on defense.
20-25 vs 0 (I should say 1 until I get pushed to SH) > 40 vs 20, but they don't seem to care.
The worst thing for talking too much on Vent was Kael. Like the fight is so long and doesn't get difficult until so far into it, people would start screwing around and joking on Vent out of boredom during phase 1-2 and then stop paying attention and someone would randomly die... So stupid.
So we have these two brothers fresh in the guild.
They never ever shut up on vent!
We were doing a heroic. I was at 40% mana and said I'd drink. They pull anyway. I, naturally, go out of mana having to spam Holy Light.
The worst thing for talking too much on Vent was Kael. Like the fight is so long and doesn't get difficult until so far into it, people would start screwing around and joking on Vent out of boredom during phase 1-2 and then stop paying attention and someone would randomly die... So stupid.
So we have these two brothers fresh in the guild.
They never ever shut up on vent!
We were doing a heroic. I was at 40% mana and said I'd drink. They pull anyway. I, naturally, go out of mana having to spam Holy Light.
Global mute is a wonderful thing as well. Especially for those motormouths who talk for because they need/love to hear themselves speak. And the backseat raid leaders. My old guild was full of the former & the latter, the only times we were productive was when Vent was dead silent. There were a few people who had to be gmuted every single raid.
Global mute is a wonderful thing as well. Especially for those motormouths who talk for because they need/love to hear themselves speak. And the backseat raid leaders. My old guild was full of the former & the latter, the only times we were productive was when Vent was dead silent. There were a few people who had to be gmuted every single raid.
Yeah we have a lot of people trying to 'help' the raid leaders. There's one guy, relatively new in the grand scheme of things, who is often helpful, but sometimes you can tell he's just reading stuff straight from BossKillers instead of summarizing. And man, the people who didn't bother to go read the strat on their own, do you really think they're not going to go AFK or just stop listening while you read it to them? :roll:
Global mute is a wonderful thing as well. Especially for those motormouths who talk for because they need/love to hear themselves speak. And the backseat raid leaders. My old guild was full of the former & the latter, the only times we were productive was when Vent was dead silent. There were a few people who had to be gmuted every single raid.
Yeah we have a lot of people trying to 'help' the raid leaders. There's one guy, relatively new in the grand scheme of things, who is often helpful, but sometimes you can tell he's just reading stuff straight from BossKillers instead of summarizing. And man, the people who didn't bother to go read the strat on their own, do you really think they're not going to go AFK or just stop listening while you read it to them? :roll:
I had the type of people who were a combination of two, they'd yell during Prince or fights which required heavy healing, "ZOMG What are you healers doing, HEAL THE TANK!" Or they'd yell at the dps to dps faster. Something equally as inane.
That usually earned a gmute & a yell from me, & I rarely talk on Vent during raids.
Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Also I turn off vent for most every boss fight ever.
Gotta have daft punk slash metallica blasting.
It helps me focus, gosh darn it.
Haha, yup. Whenever I'm PUG BGing I always put my playlist on shuffle, if a track I like especially comes up I have determined we are 90% more likely to win.
When we need to win in WSG, I start playing the entire "Renegades" album by Rage Against the Machine, but I always start it with "How I Could Just Kill a Man" instead of the first track. This approach has not failed me yet.
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edited December 2007
Also, I haven't played in about a week and I think I may be able to kick the game all together now. I was tempted to go and play, but I visited my realm forums and realized that I hated everyone on that shitty realm. God, I was about to go back till I read this thread and this thread. All mouthbreathing, inbred, single digit IQ retards. The PA TF2 servers aren't much better, but they're an improvement :P
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Oh cool, looking over the PVE progression thread made me notice how far some guilds have come. In the last 2 weeks, 3 guilds have downed KT to get into BT/MH... pretty cool since theres only been one guild doing t6 content on the realm for about the last 4 months.
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As opposed to being welcomed with open arms as a Ret Paladin?
As someone who picked their first class based on the description in the manual, I was very disappointed at how poor warrior DPS generally is without tip-top gear. If you are thinking of rolling a warrior for their "offensive capability" then don't even bother making one.
As opposed to being welcomed with open arms as a Ret Paladin?
As someone who picked their first class based on the description in the manual, I was very disappointed at how poor warrior DPS generally is without tip-top gear. If you are thinking of rolling a warrior for their "offensive capability" then don't even bother making one. Unless of course you want to be a mother fucking god in the Arena
Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Throw out your opinions for my consideration ;-)
Paladin is way more fun to play, and everybody will want to group with you.
The problem with Warriors (I know this secondhand from our top raiding Warriors on our server's Horde) is that if you're a Warrior in a raid and something isn't aggro'd on you, you're either late to the fight (i.e. battle res'd tank) or DPS Warrior doing average DPS. Our 2nd MT was also our token Fury Warrior and whenever he got a series of crits or just because he was doing good, he'd pull aggro. He could have Tranquil Totem and Blessing of Salvation, top-end gear on a Fury Warrior is hot stuff but he'd literally have to stop auto-attacking to not pull aggro.
I joked around and said he should just use bare hands to fight but he proved to me that even THAT pulls aggro.
When was this Arikado? Because, their innate threat was bumped from 20% to 25% at some point since BC I believe, and they just got 10% more for fury. Meanwhile, windfury remains an awesome dps boost for warriors that as far as I can tell, makes them pretty damn competetive.
Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Throw out your opinions for my consideration ;-)
Paladin is way more fun to play, and everybody will want to group with you.
Yeah, I'd say Paladin as well. I took a warrior to around 30 and gave up but I love my Paladin.
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- Start Character
- Have friend(s) portal/summon you to Shattrath
- Set Hearthstone at an Inn
- Once per hour, you can now go from any capital city to any other capital city (more often if you're a shaman)
- Useful even for Mages until they are high enough to have all the old world teleports (at 40 or so?)
Edit: I may have to go get that quest, however. Not having to wait for the boat would be really nice.
30.
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Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Throw out your opinions for my consideration ;-)
Paladin is way more fun to play, and everybody will want to group with you.
Yeah, I'd say Paladin as well. I took a warrior to around 30 and gave up but I love my Paladin.
I did the same thing. My warrior made it to 44.
Pretty soon my wife is going to have two Paladins at level 70.
Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Throw out your opinions for my consideration ;-)
Paladin is way more fun to play, and everybody will want to group with you.
Yeah, I'd say Paladin as well. I took a warrior to around 30 and gave up but I love my Paladin.
I did the same thing. My warrior made it to 44.
Pretty soon my wife is going to have two Paladins at level 70.
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I finally did EotS and AB last night. AB sucked, it appears alliance just loses that one. But EotS was so much fun. And I more than tripled my honor in one night. (from 1k to just about 4k) That was like 5 fast games, with about a 30 second queue time.
So it seems the winning strat for EotS is to just cap the towers from the start and ignore the flags until they're secure. At which point, if you feel like it, you can go grab a flag. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS! It doesn't make sense, I learned how to win in about 5 minutes. What's wrong with the other people?
AB didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So we grab the different resource nodes right? Ok, did that. And then based off last night, our next objective is to let horde take them from us right? Ok... doesn't seem smart.... Ok, next, frantically defend the last node you have? Uh huh........ What's the secret to winning here?
I'm going to try AV tonight. How do I not be a retard?
Same, I couldn't live without Pandora.
I'd say I played about 3-4 hours a day (with it being on about 10+) while I did school work/house work. You can thank Medopine and Dhalphir (among a few others) for giving me tips on how to play, though. The main reason I got on WoW is because I have so much time between working/school that I desired a time sink. There is just enough down time (such as flying from one place to another) that I can get all sorts of shit done while my character is running here or there.
Now that finals are coming up I'm cutting my time down quite a bit, though. Shouldn't matter as I need to wait to make Spellcloth, anyhow.
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Hahahha, well I like my version too
Haha oh boy, welcome to Alliance PVP.
In AV - stealth to objectives and capture them. That's really the most useful thing a rogue can do. In group pvp you're usually fucked, but you can try to knock off casters in between getting AOE'd out of stealth and pummeled by MS warriors.
I mean, I heard stories of horde dominating pvp. But man, that AB just sucked.
You're on Dark Iron, right? Lot of forumers here are on Shadowburn: Sargeras, ED, DI, and I was most recently on Greymane.
Shadowburn Alliance sucks. Hard. Get used to it. AV used to be the only winning Battleground for Alliance, but with the new changes, I suspect that they just lose across the board now.
Now that I've moved from Shadowburn to Bloodlust, things have changed quite a bit. 2.3 AV is Horde's playground, AB is about 50/50, Warsong goes to whoever is running the premade, and Eye of the Storm is sole property of the Alliance (to the point where games are now starting to end prematurely for lack of Horde players).
For the love of god, this. I like my raid a lot, but some of the people who are otherwise really smart will just ramble on for ever and ever, to the point that I (as a pretty talkative person) just take the headset off and wait for the ready check to pop up. My raidleader and I approached Abbot & Costello levels of stupid last night trying to figure out Naj'entus positioning. I will transcribe our voicechat from memory.
(This was after moving some people around, included me, was discussed.)
Me: so, would someone tell me what position I'm at?
RL: yeah, [holy priest], just go back to west. [more crosstalk]
Me: where do I go?
RL: okay, looks good... kana, where are you standing?
Me: I don't know.
RL: yeah, which side are you on for the fight?
Me: That's what I keep asking you, chief.
At this point our other warlock broke in and basically yelled that since I didn't know where I was supposed to stand, I wasn't very likely to answer the RL's question, and we sorted it out. It's the most frustrating thing when people fail at listening.
Anyway, the best 'fuckup' moment we ever had was when the same RL hit the wrong macro and gave us a readycheck right at the start of Kael phase 4, during the first pyroblast. Apparently this flustered the MT and he died, and we wiped. Now, every so often on farm bosses, someone who randomly has raid assist will pop one up and we'll get a good laugh out of it.
We talk a fair amount during bossfights too, but when we're struggling with something everyone gets quiet.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Roughly the same time the idiot horde on my server realize you can't just all go on zerg offense in AV and expect to win when the alliance has like 15-20 on defense.
20-25 vs 0 (I should say 1 until I get pushed to SH) > 40 vs 20, but they don't seem to care.
So we have these two brothers fresh in the guild.
They never ever shut up on vent!
We were doing a heroic. I was at 40% mana and said I'd drink. They pull anyway. I, naturally, go out of mana having to spam Holy Light.
"You could have said you were drinking!"
My response would be quick and efficient.
Yeah we have a lot of people trying to 'help' the raid leaders. There's one guy, relatively new in the grand scheme of things, who is often helpful, but sometimes you can tell he's just reading stuff straight from BossKillers instead of summarizing. And man, the people who didn't bother to go read the strat on their own, do you really think they're not going to go AFK or just stop listening while you read it to them? :roll:
I hate that man.
I had the type of people who were a combination of two, they'd yell during Prince or fights which required heavy healing, "ZOMG What are you healers doing, HEAL THE TANK!" Or they'd yell at the dps to dps faster. Something equally as inane.
That usually earned a gmute & a yell from me, & I rarely talk on Vent during raids.
Oddly enough, we've probably gone through 20 different main tanks since TBC came out.
Warrior Vs Paladin - Which would provide the most enjoyable WoW experience for a non-pvp, questing & tanking style character? I'm incredibly torn between the two at the moment
The gist I get from lurking in these threads is...
Warrior = More aggro-holding moves and more damage but less survivability.
Paladin = Unkillable ass-hats with rez'ing & healing, but less offensive capability.
Throw out your opinions for my consideration ;-)
Warrior tanking is infuriating, and you'll be very lucky to get any response other then "Lol warr DPS" if you want to be a damage dealer.
When we need to win in WSG, I start playing the entire "Renegades" album by Rage Against the Machine, but I always start it with "How I Could Just Kill a Man" instead of the first track. This approach has not failed me yet.
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Oh cool, looking over the PVE progression thread made me notice how far some guilds have come. In the last 2 weeks, 3 guilds have downed KT to get into BT/MH... pretty cool since theres only been one guild doing t6 content on the realm for about the last 4 months.
As someone who picked their first class based on the description in the manual, I was very disappointed at how poor warrior DPS generally is without tip-top gear. If you are thinking of rolling a warrior for their "offensive capability" then don't even bother making one.
Fixed.
Paladin is way more fun to play, and everybody will want to group with you.
I joked around and said he should just use bare hands to fight but he proved to me that even THAT pulls aggro.
I have no idea who he is, but his commercial's cool.
Yeah, I'd say Paladin as well. I took a warrior to around 30 and gave up but I love my Paladin.
30.
I did the same thing. My warrior made it to 44.
Pretty soon my wife is going to have two Paladins at level 70.
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He is also known as Guillermo Toledo
According to Wikipedia: Verne Troyer (Mini-me from Austin Powers) is also in one. Haven't seen it, but him playing a Gnome would be great.
SabreMau the second?
Level 20 and now I can turn into a cat.
And my "finisher" is a dot :P