It's old and it's just gonna clutter up pages and pages of this thread all over again.
For real. People only talk about how much it sucks cause they always get killed by them. Wake up guys, I can literally think of plenty of times i was cloaked and disguised and not seen at all, and then getting hit by a crit rocket allll thee wayyy across granary. Sure, it sucks when you get critted, but it's also pretty fuckin rad when you kill 3-4 guys from one rocket. Buck up and practice, that way you'll get more crits
Now: Let's talk more about how hunted should be made.
Sounds like a lot of people just want TO PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME.
I want to play Team Fortress 2 without critical hits, and I do play Team Fortress 2 without critical hits. That's... hardly a different game entirely. Especially considering that removing critical hits can be achieved through a server-side plug-in.
It's old and it's just gonna clutter up pages and pages of this thread all over again.
Okay. Let's talk about what colossal faggots the music pipers are, instead. That is a fresh topic of conversation everyone can enjoy. I'll start us off: All of the music pipers are colossal faggots.
Comming from Mr. "No we were never playing melee only because I joined the server and wanted it my way waaah waaaaaaaah" I can't really care about what you do.
I never said "...and wanted it my way waaah waaaaaaaah". I applaud your mostly accurate recall of my words, though. I can't even be bothered to remember most of your handles.
I get pissed getting hit by a crit rocket from a mile away, both the shot and the splash damages. But I take comfort in the fact that I probably also piss people off with crit flames and sticky grenades.
Sounds like a lot of people just want TO PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME.
Or they should play soldier more. I get pissed about the crits until I remember how many I have fired in my 30+ hours of soldier. :P
Sounds like a lot of people just want TO PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GAME.
I want to play Team Fortress 2 without critical hits, and I do play Team Fortress 2 without critical hits. That's... hardly a different game entirely. Especially considering that removing critical hits can be achieved through a server-side plug-in.
It's old and it's just gonna clutter up pages and pages of this thread all over again.
Okay. Let's talk about what colossal faggots the music pipers are, instead. That is a fresh topic of conversation everyone can enjoy. I'll start us off: All of the music pipers are colossal faggots.
I actually like music, depending on who's playing it and how much.
I never said "...and wanted it my way waaah waaaaaaaah". I applaud your mostly accurate recall of my words, though. I can't even be bothered to remember most of your handles.
I think you guys should melee fight. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
I still think melee sd was the shit. Sd is usually really boring, especially if you die early, and then you just wait around. With melee sd, everyone just charged forward, thirsting for blood, and the round usually ended in about a minute or so.
Actually, I think I did say I wanted it my way. I can't recall crying, though.
I can only recall blowing you all up.
Yes, I remember blowing you all up very clearly.
Yea i don't see you blowing anyone up unless it's a crit bonesaw.
Plus, mumbly is from the UK, he can say anything he damn well pleases because it sounds fucking badass.
I agree with Cizzle by the way, Melee SD is fun and makes it finish quickly. Plus everyone can go heavy and actually agree we should cause it's awesome.
Crits are funny. I get critted and I'm like "god damn crits I hate you" then I get a crit with saves my ass or blows someone up unexpectedly and I'm like "yes, awesome, thank you crits!" I like the explanation of the Valve guy the best: crits break up the determinism of a game and do a bit for keeping it from getting stale tactics-wise.
I'll accept any explanation but that. Rocket crits, pyro crits and mini gun crits remove many more tactics than they enhance. Not the other way around. Not at all. I will not accept that explanation. I am happy to sit here at length discussing why that is a bad explanation, if anybody requires it of me. But knowing people hate this discussion, I will stop for now. You only have to ask though, I'm waiting, nay, poised at the keyboard with a veritable wall of delicious text. I've thought about this at length.
I am disappointed in that Valve guy. He is limited.
I do accept the "they are teh fun" explanation. Just not this "higher tactics based" explanation because that's not true at all.
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I agree with Mumbly, I would definitely play on the server that removes crits. It's fun to kill people for free once in a while, but not as much as it is annoying to die to a roll of the dice.
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Man likes his tags.
Wants to feel like he belongs man.
You want to deny that? What kind of hermit are you.
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Rak, I added *BOOM* because I played demo a lot. This was back when Morninglord suggested class-specific additions to our names. You should be *FACESTAB*Rakuen;Callisto! or *SAP*Rakuen;Callisto!
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Rak, I added *BOOM* because I played demo a lot. This was back when Morninglord suggested class-specific additions to our names. You should be *FACESTAB*Rakuen;Callisto!
I see what you are trying to do. I am torn between playing along or...
I don't remember making any serious suggestion like that.
It is, however, something fully in character for me to suggest as a joke or throwaway comment I don't expect people to listen to.
I'm confused now.
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The TGL (Total Gaming League; I've never heard of them, nor should you have, unless you're a pro-gamer, pro-gamer, hahahaha, basement-dwelling pro-gamer) have laid out their rules on acceptable league Medic play. Activating an Übercharge then saving it for later use by switching weapons is legal. Extending an Übercharge by continuously cycling weapons is an exploit.
I say fie to the Medic-haters at the Total Gaming League. I shall extend my single-target Übercharges to fifteen seconds, and I shall do so with my head held high. And my palm held high, too, so that I may bring my unbridled, open-palmed fury down upon any who shall cry before me.
I agree with Mumbly, I would definitely play on the server that removes crits. It's fun to kill people for free once in a while, but not as much as it is annoying to die to a roll of the dice.
I wanted to through my opinion around again, as the originator of the first rally cry against crits in this thread (or was it the last one). I've always felt that any joy I get out of my random crits was far over-shadowed by the frustration of their use against me. Not only that, but I (improbably) feel guilty when I one shot some poor shmuck I never even saw because of suppressive rocket fire crits. Add to this my belief that I would've killed the guy anyway without the crit and you start to see the full breadth of the argument. But as we all know by now, it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Things are the way they are.
I'd also like to comment on how much opinion on the matter has changed since I first took up arms against it. I was known as the annoying-crit-complaining guy for a while before I decided not to play as much and thus not care to the same degree. Back then, I was the only person who felt (at least strongly enough to vocalize it) their annoying tendencies outweighed the benefits. I had a feeling things would change as time rolled on. If you interested, I presented a number of ways the system could be overhauled in order to soften their apparent effect on personal gameplay experience while maintaining their bunker-busting role.
Rak, I added *BOOM* because I played demo a lot. This was back when Morninglord suggested class-specific additions to our names. You should be *FACESTAB*Rakuen;Callisto! or *SAP*Rakuen;Callisto!
Ahhh very very good idea sith. I think i actually recommended the class specifications and morning lord laughed at it, but whatever i think it's interesting. Maybe we can start new trend. I'm going with *FRONTSTAB*, *CLOAK* or something of that sort. I think morninglord should be *BSCRIT*
Where the fuck did all that fucking angst come from earlier
You don't see me entering the thread to fucking swear at people
Let's just draw a line under the whole thing and be done with it.
Uh, and by whole thing I mean anything that involves people going on long angry tangents. I'm yet to see anyone ganging up on assholes so far, just people I respect arguing with each other and being beligerent for no good reason. I can't get behind that unless one side is being Uberdickish against a completely logical and calm opponent, and oddly enough I'd rather not get to the stage where people are getting so vehement and pissy that I can side against one Internet Compadre against another.
And here was me thinking Flippy's State of the Union address had calmed shit down. Jeez.
Crits are funny. I get critted and I'm like "god damn crits I hate you" then I get a crit with saves my ass or blows someone up unexpectedly and I'm like "yes, awesome, thank you crits!" I like the explanation of the Valve guy the best: crits break up the determinism of a game and do a bit for keeping it from getting stale tactics-wise.
I'll accept any explanation but that. Rocket crits, pyro crits and mini gun crits remove many more tactics than they enhance. Not the other way around. Not at all. I will not accept that explanation. I am happy to sit here at length discussing why that is a bad explanation, if anybody requires it of me. But knowing people hate this discussion, I will stop for now. You only have to ask though, I'm waiting, nay, poised at the keyboard with a veritable wall of delicious text. I've thought about this at length.
I am disappointed in that Valve guy. He is limited.
I do accept the "they are teh fun" explanation. Just not this "higher tactics based" explanation because that's not true at all.
I don't think that phrase implies that it improves tactical play, just that upon a situation of staleness, such as steamrolling or stalemate, a crit run can move the game in a different direction. I can't count the number of times I have been able to hold back a rush with crits, or cleared a cap with crits.
Also, long range crits should not be nerfed. If anything, long range hit should be rewarded with crit because what are the chances someone hasn't moved out of the way, and if you've been led by a long distance rocket, kudos to the soldier. Catching a rocket as you roll around a corner is a lame way to die, but I still laugh when it happens to me.
Where the fuck did all that fucking angst come from earlier
You don't see me entering the thread to fucking swear at people
Let's just draw a line under the whole thing and be done with it.
Uh, and by whole thing I mean anything that involves people going on long angry tangents. I'm yet to see anyone ganging up on assholes so far, just people I respect arguing with each other and being beligerent for no good reason. I can't get behind that unless one side is being Uberdickish against a completely logical and calm opponent, and oddly enough I'd rather not get to the stage where people are getting so vehement and pissy that I can side against one Internet Compadre against another.
And here was me thinking Flippy's State of the Union address had calmed shit down. Jeez.
I agree, for such a happy-go-lucky game there's been way to much vitriol in this thread lately. So I'm gonna diffuse it the only way I know how
ahhhh, much better, be soothed by the Screech. Now get back to posting funny pics and talking about how much flippy shoots our collective heads
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The Screech fills me with unexplainable rage.
Also, if I ever swear, it's because I grew up on a farm and when my father went to talk to the neighbourhood farmers, fuck, fucking and bloody were nouns, verbs and adjectives in normal calm conversation.
So they sometimes slip out as emphasis and I haven't been brought up to think of them as ubernaughty, just normal everyday words. Just thought I should let people know since there's some oh noes swearing going on.
@Nailbunny: Ah I see. Just as long as nobody thinks they make the game deeper.
@RK: I like that, it's both bullshit crit and bonesaw crit all in one tidy acronym. I'd do it if I didn't think tags were stupid. :P
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Is it possible to bind specific taunts to specific buttons? I want to bind the Heavy songs, but I'm clueless when it comes to this kinda stuff
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It's old and it's just gonna clutter up pages and pages of this thread all over again.
Now: Let's talk more about how hunted should be made.
Okay. Let's talk about what colossal faggots the music pipers are, instead. That is a fresh topic of conversation everyone can enjoy. I'll start us off: All of the music pipers are colossal faggots.
Or they should play soldier more. I get pissed about the crits until I remember how many I have fired in my 30+ hours of soldier. :P
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The following ten seconds went exactly as I hoped.
I actually like music, depending on who's playing it and how much.
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I can only recall blowing you all up.
Yes, I remember blowing you all up very clearly.
RAAAAAAAPH!!! :x
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Plus, mumbly is from the UK, he can say anything he damn well pleases because it sounds fucking badass.
I agree with Cizzle by the way, Melee SD is fun and makes it finish quickly. Plus everyone can go heavy and actually agree we should cause it's awesome.
Not a big deal, though. Only seems to really matter on Hydro.
It's like you went back in time to assassinate them before they built they machines of destruction.
I'll accept any explanation but that. Rocket crits, pyro crits and mini gun crits remove many more tactics than they enhance. Not the other way around. Not at all. I will not accept that explanation. I am happy to sit here at length discussing why that is a bad explanation, if anybody requires it of me. But knowing people hate this discussion, I will stop for now. You only have to ask though, I'm waiting, nay, poised at the keyboard with a veritable wall of delicious text. I've thought about this at length.
I am disappointed in that Valve guy. He is limited.
I do accept the "they are teh fun" explanation. Just not this "higher tactics based" explanation because that's not true at all.
that's... pretty lame, man.
most of all, most of all
someone said true love was dead
but i'm bound to fall
bound to fall for you
oh what can i do
Wants to feel like he belongs man.
You want to deny that? What kind of hermit are you.
I see what you are trying to do. I am torn between playing along or...
It is, however, something fully in character for me to suggest as a joke or throwaway comment I don't expect people to listen to.
I'm confused now.
Avoid getting hit by a crit rocket from wayyyyyyy across the map. Seriously, they're like the slowest moving projectiles ever.
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I say fie to the Medic-haters at the Total Gaming League. I shall extend my single-target Übercharges to fifteen seconds, and I shall do so with my head held high. And my palm held high, too, so that I may bring my unbridled, open-palmed fury down upon any who shall cry before me.
But the glow draws you in.
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I wanted to through my opinion around again, as the originator of the first rally cry against crits in this thread (or was it the last one). I've always felt that any joy I get out of my random crits was far over-shadowed by the frustration of their use against me. Not only that, but I (improbably) feel guilty when I one shot some poor shmuck I never even saw because of suppressive rocket fire crits. Add to this my belief that I would've killed the guy anyway without the crit and you start to see the full breadth of the argument. But as we all know by now, it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Things are the way they are.
I'd also like to comment on how much opinion on the matter has changed since I first took up arms against it. I was known as the annoying-crit-complaining guy for a while before I decided not to play as much and thus not care to the same degree. Back then, I was the only person who felt (at least strongly enough to vocalize it) their annoying tendencies outweighed the benefits. I had a feeling things would change as time rolled on. If you interested, I presented a number of ways the system could be overhauled in order to soften their apparent effect on personal gameplay experience while maintaining their bunker-busting role.
omgimmature!!!
You don't see me entering the thread to fucking swear at people
Let's just draw a line under the whole thing and be done with it.
Uh, and by whole thing I mean anything that involves people going on long angry tangents. I'm yet to see anyone ganging up on assholes so far, just people I respect arguing with each other and being beligerent for no good reason. I can't get behind that unless one side is being Uberdickish against a completely logical and calm opponent, and oddly enough I'd rather not get to the stage where people are getting so vehement and pissy that I can side against one Internet Compadre against another.
And here was me thinking Flippy's State of the Union address had calmed shit down. Jeez.
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Also rC, you should totally go with a [gAnG oF dAgGeRs] tag cuz you'll be 10 billion times awesomer.
I don't think that phrase implies that it improves tactical play, just that upon a situation of staleness, such as steamrolling or stalemate, a crit run can move the game in a different direction. I can't count the number of times I have been able to hold back a rush with crits, or cleared a cap with crits.
Also, long range crits should not be nerfed. If anything, long range hit should be rewarded with crit because what are the chances someone hasn't moved out of the way, and if you've been led by a long distance rocket, kudos to the soldier. Catching a rocket as you roll around a corner is a lame way to die, but I still laugh when it happens to me.
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I agree, for such a happy-go-lucky game there's been way to much vitriol in this thread lately. So I'm gonna diffuse it the only way I know how
ahhhh, much better, be soothed by the Screech. Now get back to posting funny pics and talking about how much flippy shoots our collective heads
Also, if I ever swear, it's because I grew up on a farm and when my father went to talk to the neighbourhood farmers, fuck, fucking and bloody were nouns, verbs and adjectives in normal calm conversation.
So they sometimes slip out as emphasis and I haven't been brought up to think of them as ubernaughty, just normal everyday words. Just thought I should let people know since there's some oh noes swearing going on.
@Nailbunny: Ah I see. Just as long as nobody thinks they make the game deeper.
@RK: I like that, it's both bullshit crit and bonesaw crit all in one tidy acronym. I'd do it if I didn't think tags were stupid. :P