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How 'bout that Zune?

natalieownatalieow Registered User regular
edited December 2007 in Games and Technology
As a proud owner of a Zune (version 1.0 30GB- but the software is updated), I'm curious to know if there are, indeed, any others out there. Stand up so I can see you!

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Had two (one for gf, one for me) since shortly after release. Zune Pass is the shit.

    Former iPod user and while I've toyed with the idea of going back as I've become a mac user, I'm not going back.

    This whole software update for the older models is about the smartest move ever. Fuck you, Apple, wanting me to buy the same fucking shit with 1 new feature every few months. Fuck you.

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  • Inglorious CoyoteInglorious Coyote Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I used to have a 30, but I hated the Zune software so very much I got rid of it.

    Tried the new software a few weeks ago, and it's better, but I'm still not a fan. Which is sad cause the actual hardware is quite nice.

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  • natalieownatalieow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I used to have a 30, but I hated the Zune software so very much I got rid of it.

    Tried the new software a few weeks ago, and it's better, but I'm still not a fan. Which is sad cause the actual hardware is quite nice.

    The new software is excellent, I must say. Though a lot of the old users preferred it the way it was. I'm very happy with the update and I think that Zune 2.0 is going to give Apple a little scare. Not only with the interface and software of the MP3 player itself, but the fact that the gadget is just plain cool. Of course, nothing as of yet will ever out sell the iPod craze. Some day... some day.

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The new software is not excellent. It runs incredibly slow, and it rearranged my album art, which I had to fix manually for each album. And you have little control over how music is arranged and labeled in the Zune. It throws tracks into the wrong albums, and tosses everything its not sure about into an "unknown" folder, which you can't use the actual Zune software to fix.

    And the video is very limited in the files it will actually play.

    I would not recommend a Zune to anyone who could afford other options.

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  • Inglorious CoyoteInglorious Coyote Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with WMP11.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I have a Zune Original, which I only got because of a company discount. In the past, I couldn't recommend it to anyone because the software stank, and the lack of native podcast support was very annoying. But ever since the firmware update, I've been very happy.

    The hardware is pretty solid, I guess. I've never owned any other MP3 player so I have no frame of reference. I do have plenty of friends who've had problems with their iPods, but they always seem content with just getting the newest one whenever it comes out.

    Zune Pass, though, is awesome. A few months ago, I loaded up my Zune with a bunch of songs that were going to be out on Rock Band. Music training I guess. It paid off. :lol:

    I suppose you can do the same thing with other music services/subscriptions, but it's nice having it all integrated. That said, it's certainly pricey but I'm fine with it, considering I don't have a large music collection at all, and am wary of spending hundreds of dollars on DRMed music that might be worthless in the future.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Heh. Just a few minutes ago I was ready to chuck my zune out the window thanks to the software.

    I'm sure it has something to do with my computer, but it still runs pretty slow, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to actually put new music into the zune. I'm used to dragging it, and then clicking on sync and seeing the little bars fill up, but I didn't see anything this time around.

    I mean, I got the music, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.

    Also, again, maybe only my computer, but hte right click doesn't work. If I right click an album, it'll show me the options, but if I want to pick any of them, I have to use the arrows on the computer, as for some reason it doesn't register the mouse.

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  • TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I have a version 1.0 30gb brown Zune. I bought it about a month ago, so I didn't have any experience with the old software, but I am pretty happy with it. My only real complaint is the need to re-encode all my .avi videos to get them on my Zune, and the fact that removing something from my library removes it from my Zune.

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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The new software is so much faster than the old software. There used to be a second or at least half-second delay between songs. That's gone. It's entirely seamless now. I'm happy with the software update in general.

    (edit: oh, you guys are talking about the actual software, aren't you? yeah, that's slower and pretty retarded and unintuitive, which is ironic because you can tell they were trying to make it as simple as possible. the firmware is much faster than the old firmware though)

    One thing that bugs me is the switching of the 5 star song rating system to the pretty lame heart/broken heart rating system. What if I like a song but don't *love* it? I used to have a very specific rating system for my songs, and rating them was a little meta-game I would play. 5 stars would go to songs I adored and would pretty much never skip. 4 stars would be songs I liked a lot but often didn't want to hear. 3 stars to songs that I would enjoy if they came on the radio but probably wouldn't actively choose to listen to. 2 stars to songs that I outright didn't like. 1 star to songs that were actually broken sound files, or there was something similar wrong with them. I was able to make playlists based on my ratings... a playlist with just 5 star songs for when I wanted the best, or 4 and 5 star songs when I wanted variety... you get the idea. This is all gone now :(

    but the zune in general - well, it gets the job done, no better or worse than an ipod really. it bothers me that the ipod is so ubiquitous so that it's hard to find peripherals for the zune. my Scion comes with a built-in ipod jack that would allow me to control an ipod using the radio or steering wheel controls, but the best I can do with the zune is hook up my car to the headphone jack :(

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  • TxdoHawkTxdoHawk Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Not big on the removal of drag and drop in the new software, but I love the device itself, and look forward to picking up the 80 gig when the price plummets, thanks to the laughable negative press.

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    TxdoHawk wrote: »
    Not big on the removal of drag and drop in the new software

    Huh? If anything it's more 'drag and drop'.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The new software is fantastic. I abhored (no exaggeration) the old software and very rarely plugged my Zune in as a result. It was a sluggish nightmare. The new software is actually optimized, doesn't seem to leak memory, and looks cool if that matters to you. The organization is rather odd, I think, but at least I don't want to drill into my head every time I load it up.

    The Zune hardware itself is awesome, especially with the new firmware.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

    Hmm, even if MS wanted to make the Zune work with iTunes, I'm guessing Apple wouldn't be too happy with it and would take steps to make sure it didn't happen. Or maybe I'm mistaken ... does iTunes play nice with other MP3 players? I was under the impression that iTunes songs were DRMed to only work on the iPod/iPhone.

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    iTunes can be convinced to work with just about any mp3 player that can function as a harddrive, IIRC. I know for certain the same goes for Winamp.

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  • NackmatholnNackmatholn Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm enjoying my Zune, Still have my Zen, giving it to my roomate now that the Zune passed it's test. The ability to sync with my 360 rocks since this Laptop is typically Linux flavored, thus no streamy from windows. Also I love the Zune Pass, used to have a subscription to Napster to Go, so the transition was natural. What would be nifty is for people to get social and share their zune tags and what not... Also backgrounds.

    yeah, mine is NSFW so...

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    is there a way to have the zune not put a horribly ugly color fade along the side of whatever you use as your wallpaper? i havent really messed with it, but thats really annoying.

    anyway, i quite like my zune since i picked one up from a woot off a couple months ago. the software is not so great, and the lack of video format support is vaguely annoying, but overall its nice.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I can actually use the new Zune software, without wanting to smash my PC like I used to with iTunes.
    God, I don't miss iTunes.

    I've got a Black 30gb with the new firmware. It's great.

    Pook, you can't get rid of that fade effect.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    dammit, it wouldnt really bother me if it was at least a well done fade. it looks so bad though, especially on a black background.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I have one 30gb zune that I am trying to figure out what to do with and an 8gb zune that is awaiting my girlfriend for christmas.

    The zuneoriginals.net packaging is so beautiful. I want to open it on my own.

    EDIT: The zune30 I bought on a whim, since it was under 100. I would use it to replace my 60g video ipod, but my future 80g zune(When they release other colors) would not be happy.

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Trus wrote: »
    I have a version 1.0 30gb brown Zune. I bought it about a month ago, so I didn't have any experience with the old software, but I am pretty happy with it. My only real complaint is the need to re-encode all my .avi videos to get them on my Zune, and the fact that removing something from my library removes it from my Zune.

    Anyone know if there any way around that on the new software? I have a decent amount of stuff on my Zune that's not on my computer, for space reasons. Since upgrading to the new software, I haven't tried synching yet since the software doesn't show the stuff not on the computer on the Zune (though it's still on the actual device). I haven't tried since it'd take some effort to restore all the music if it were deleted. So if someone has an answer, that'd be awesome.

    Or better yet, anyone know of a way to backup files on the Zune? That could also help with my problem.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

    Hmm, even if MS wanted to make the Zune work with iTunes, I'm guessing Apple wouldn't be too happy with it and would take steps to make sure it didn't happen. Or maybe I'm mistaken ... does iTunes play nice with other MP3 players? I was under the impression that iTunes songs were DRMed to only work on the iPod/iPhone.

    Well I don't buy songs from iTunes anyways. I just use it to move my CD onto my (ex-)iPod and I wish it worked with my zune as nicely since zune.exe doesn't work with it as nicely.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Heh. Just a few minutes ago I was ready to chuck my zune out the window thanks to the software.

    I'm sure it has something to do with my computer, but it still runs pretty slow, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to actually put new music into the zune. I'm used to dragging it, and then clicking on sync and seeing the little bars fill up, but I didn't see anything this time around.

    I mean, I got the music, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.

    Also, again, maybe only my computer, but hte right click doesn't work. If I right click an album, it'll show me the options, but if I want to pick any of them, I have to use the arrows on the computer, as for some reason it doesn't register the mouse.

    Here's how it works:

    (a) drag music into your library
    (b) it gets added to your device (either immediately or the next time you plug it in). You can click on "device" to check the sync status.

    Why is this so hard for people. This new software really is "just maintain your library and I'll take care of everything automagically" and people still seem to be confused.

    EDIT: @Slicer: if you can manage to get the Zune to connect to the software as a "guest" then you can drag files onto the computer (by clicking on device, then selecting some files and dragging them to the computer icon in the lower-left).

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    nm'

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The new software is nicer than the old, but there are certain features that were stripped out that upset me.

    It is more accessable, but at the cost of being able to edit tags, etc.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

    Hmm, even if MS wanted to make the Zune work with iTunes, I'm guessing Apple wouldn't be too happy with it and would take steps to make sure it didn't happen. Or maybe I'm mistaken ... does iTunes play nice with other MP3 players? I was under the impression that iTunes songs were DRMed to only work on the iPod/iPhone.

    Well I don't buy songs from iTunes anyways. I just use it to move my CD onto my (ex-)iPod and I wish it worked with my zune as nicely since zune.exe doesn't work with it as nicely.

    as long as the output is mp3s, and they go into a folder that Zune monitors, you can still use it to rid

    and then sync wirelessly, and you never actually have to deal with the Zune.exe interface.

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  • ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I just ordered an 80GB 2.0 from BestBuy.com today. Good grief if they could just add xvid and divx onto it, it might just be the best personal media player ever...as it stands, I'm not sure if I'll keep it...may just return it to a store.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I have a 30 gig pink Zune which is still serving me well. I will be pissed when it breaks, and I can't replace it with another pink one though.

    The new software is pretty awful though. The ability to change song tags is essential. I'm not entirely sure why they thought it would be a good idea to remove it.

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  • starmanbrandstarmanbrand Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    What do we think the chances are of them updating the software before the next generation? Took for ever for 1.0->2.0, but with the larger install base this time I around, I would imagine seeing a more fleshed out 2.5 software in a few months.

    Any takers?

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Evander wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

    Hmm, even if MS wanted to make the Zune work with iTunes, I'm guessing Apple wouldn't be too happy with it and would take steps to make sure it didn't happen. Or maybe I'm mistaken ... does iTunes play nice with other MP3 players? I was under the impression that iTunes songs were DRMed to only work on the iPod/iPhone.

    Well I don't buy songs from iTunes anyways. I just use it to move my CD onto my (ex-)iPod and I wish it worked with my zune as nicely since zune.exe doesn't work with it as nicely.

    as long as the output is mp3s, and they go into a folder that Zune monitors, you can still use it to rid

    and then sync wirelessly, and you never actually have to deal with the Zune.exe interface.

    Yes but I still have to deal with my zune deciding that my cd is 3 seperate cd's with the same name and artist when it is actually only 1 cd

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  • MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Apparently the Zune team is taking feedback and looking to implement things like proper metadata fixes and smart playlists.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Honestly, MS should just screw the Zune Player and make the Zune work with iTunes.

    Fix'd for me. I like my zune, but hate how the zune software has turned my albums, with the same name and same artist, into 2 or 3 or 4 seperate albums each with like 4 songs. Havn't downloaded the new software yet cause I havn't used my zune since thanksgiving, heres to hoping its not shit.

    Hmm, even if MS wanted to make the Zune work with iTunes, I'm guessing Apple wouldn't be too happy with it and would take steps to make sure it didn't happen. Or maybe I'm mistaken ... does iTunes play nice with other MP3 players? I was under the impression that iTunes songs were DRMed to only work on the iPod/iPhone.

    Well I don't buy songs from iTunes anyways. I just use it to move my CD onto my (ex-)iPod and I wish it worked with my zune as nicely since zune.exe doesn't work with it as nicely.

    as long as the output is mp3s, and they go into a folder that Zune monitors, you can still use it to rid

    and then sync wirelessly, and you never actually have to deal with the Zune.exe interface.

    Yes but I still have to deal with my zune deciding that my cd is 3 seperate cd's with the same name and artist when it is actually only 1 cd

    used to be able to fix that by dragging and dropping the seperate cds onto each other.

    I haven't tried this in the the new software yet

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  • mrotsmrots Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Well, looking at how Microsoft releases service packs and dashboard updates, I'm sure we'll see at least one Zune software update before the next gen. Hopefully.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Still waiting on my clock...

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  • squirlysquirly Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Trying to find somewhere to buy a Zune80 in Australia..

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't know if this has been mentioned or if my mind is just playing tricks on me, but pre-most recent update, I was only getting like 8 hours constant play battery life and now I get 11-12. Also, I love my zune but the zune software eats my rams with it's always running in the background bullshit.
    All in all I <3 My Zune and have recommended it to everyone at my work who has been looking to buy an MP3 player this holiday season.

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Waiting for my 30gb brown to come in the mail (and waiting for amazon to actually send the money they refunded on the one I ordered from them that they didn't have), so we'll see how it compares to my experience with the Zen V Plus. Using the zen was a snap, since I could just send songs to it while listening to them on winamp.

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  • StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I got a 30gb Zune when they got discounted to $99 a couple months ago. I like the device and the software perfectly fine, but Zune Pass takes it to a whole new level. What an amazing deal; I've downloaded tons of music I was unwilling to purchase without hearing first. Now I can pay a small subscription fee and get whatever I want.

    The new software is pretty, but it's been buggy for me. If they could iron out a lot of minor things, it would be amazing. But it's still good.

    I just checked the seamlessness of the mp3 playback, and indeed the gap is shorter, but it's still jagged. I know because I have albums where tracks go right into each other and it's still a little jarring. But for normal songs or shuffle play it's perfect.

    Also, does wireless sync not work for anyone else? It never gets past "Connecting to PC".

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The one thing that angers me is songs getting put on twice somehow. Any way to fix this without manually deleting every doubled song?

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  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Had two (one for gf, one for me) since shortly after release. Zune Pass is the shit.

    Former iPod user and while I've toyed with the idea of going back as I've become a mac user, I'm not going back.

    This whole software update for the older models is about the smartest move ever. Fuck you, Apple, wanting me to buy the same fucking shit with 1 new feature every few months. Fuck you.

    This could be said for lots of electronic devices, especially cell phones. If companies can somehow convince you to buy something new, they will. Microsoft is being "generous" because its not in a leading market position - and I am sure there a also stocks of unsold "old" Zune players out there. Back when the iPod was just a expensive toy for geeks there were updates which also increased the capability of the device (new playback formats, games were introduced etc.).

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