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Republican Debates: in Español?

ElkiElki get busyModerator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
edited December 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
I know I said 4 last time, but it turns out I'm a dirty fucking liar. 5 remaining.

This is the Republican version of the Univision debate. Yeah, I didn't think they'd be showing up for it either.


Location: Miami, Florida

Network: Univision

Date & Time: December 9, 7 P.M. - 8:30 P.M. EST

Candidates:

Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
John McCain
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson

Invited, but vowed to never attend a Spanish language forum:

Tom Tancredo

Moderator: I don't know them, and you probably don't either.

Webstream: ???

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elki wrote: »
    Invited, but vowed to never attend a Spanish language forum:

    Tom Tancredo

    I doubt there's much about 'I hate you and want to drive your people into the sea' that would get lost in translation.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Is there an English translation? Or was there in the Democratic debate?

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    There was a translator in the Democratic debate, and there'll be one here.

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  • jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Not as if the candidates are going to be answering in Spanish anyway.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    No, but in the Dem one the spanish translator drowned out their answers so you couldn't understand anything anyway.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    You, you had to enable closed-captioning to get what they were saying.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ah, I just kept hitting SAP. Then I went and made a sandwich.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    It's gonna make doing a running-commentary in here a bitch.

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  • HarrierHarrier The Star Spangled Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    moniker wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    Invited, but vowed to never attend a Spanish language forum:

    Tom Tancredo

    I doubt there's much about 'I hate you and want to drive your people into the sea' that would get lost in translation.
    This made me laugh. Well played.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    I want to see one of the candidates shout "Yo quiero Taco Bell!" at an inappropriate moment.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Wow, when the Dem debate happened, all of the Republican candidates had refused to do the Univision debate. I wonder what happened? Maybe they took a headcount, and discovered that there's a decent possibility that a huge generally anti-gay, pro-life group might be a good source for Republican votes?

    That is, if they can convince them that "we hate fucking Mexicans" isn't actually part of their platform.

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  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I want to see one of the candidates shout "Yo quiero Taco Bell!" at an inappropriate moment.

    :lol:

    Latinos are pretty conservative so I'm sure the Republicans are trying to get as many of their votes as possible. And not all those that speak Spanish are from Mexico either, duh!

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Actually Latinos are more liberal, Cuban demographics tend to vote more for Republicans but this information I got when I was looking into politics in late 90s.

    Also the host for the news coverage are Jorge Ramos and Maria Elena since they did the Democratic debate.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    Latinos tend to vote Republican, but they maintain a lot of social conservative positions. They vote Dem mainly because A) the Dems pander to the lower class, in which a lot of first- and second-gen Latinos exist, and B) the Pubs are busy yodeling "Dey took'r jorbs!" Probably the latter, mostly.

    If the Pubs actually cared, I think they could rally a fair bit of Latino support with comparatively minor changes in their stances.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Wow, when the Dem debate happened, all of the Republican candidates had refused to do the Univision debate. I wonder what happened? Maybe they took a headcount, and discovered that there's a decent possibility that a huge generally anti-gay, pro-life group might be a good source for Republican votes?

    That is, if they can convince them that "we hate fucking Mexicans" isn't actually part of their platform.

    There's also the whole "we keep pissing demographics off, we're going to be fucked shortly" aspect as well, Than.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Latinos tend to vote Republican, but they maintain a lot of social conservative positions. They vote Dem mainly because A) the Dems pander to the lower class, in which a lot of first- and second-gen Latinos exist, and B) the Pubs are busy yodeling "Dey took'r jorbs!" Probably the latter, mostly.

    If the Pubs actually cared, I think they could rally a fair bit of Latino support with comparatively minor changes in their stances.

    Except, Jeffe, that would require the GOP to, you know, not be racist. Seriously, the same arguments are made about the black community - socially conservative, fiscally minded - on paper, they look like the model Republican constituency. Yet the black community is pretty much solidly Democratic. And that's all thanks to how the GOP actually treats blacks.

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  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Did Tancredo actually vow to never attend a Spanish language forum, or is that just a jab at his hatred of Mexicans?

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    AngelHedgie wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Latinos tend to vote Republican, but they maintain a lot of social conservative positions. They vote Dem mainly because A) the Dems pander to the lower class, in which a lot of first- and second-gen Latinos exist, and B) the Pubs are busy yodeling "Dey took'r jorbs!" Probably the latter, mostly.

    If the Pubs actually cared, I think they could rally a fair bit of Latino support with comparatively minor changes in their stances.

    Except, Jeffe, that would require the GOP to, you know, not be racist. Seriously, the same arguments are made about the black community - socially conservative, fiscally minded - on paper, they look like the model Republican constituency. Yet the black community is pretty much solidly Democratic. And that's all thanks to how the GOP actually treats blacks.

    Well, it doesn't hurt that the Dems make it sound as if they would pass legislation for reparations in a heartbeat if not for those damned Pubbies. In both cases, it's partly because of cynical pandering to unsavory groups by the Pubs, and partly because of cynical pandering to token hot-ticket items by the dems.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Damn this thread. I tuned in just now thinking I was late for the debate and I get... oh, who the hell knows. It's Univision.

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    bumping this so people don't forget

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  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Thinatos wrote: »
    Wow, when the Dem debate happened, all of the Republican candidates had refused to do the Univision debate. I wonder what happened? Maybe they took a headcount, and discovered that there's a decent possibility that a huge generally anti-gay, pro-life group might be a good source for Republican votes?

    That is, if they can convince them that "we hate fucking Mexicans" isn't actually part of their platform.

    "we hate fucking Mexicans" is part of the platform though. They just need to get the message out that they're the homophobe party and the Catholic church will start lining them up (why do you think that the church is starting to make voting for Republicans a moral imperative?)

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Man, I don't even get Univision.

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    well, damn. have no idea how to get english subtitles...

    also, Rudy seemed like a giant dickhead to the moderator for not translating his question

    edit: this seems to be a live stream of it: http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1276495

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Dubs in Spanish. Captioning in Spanish. I don't speak Spanish. Looks like I'm out.

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