Moral of the story: Never switch characters. You'll be burned into a healer or tank forever!
Man, I rolled Pally for TBC so I could be Ret PEW PEW; but then one of our main Holy Pallidans flakes out and I gotta respec and regear to pick up the slack.
Guy comes back about a month later to play Ret Pally...
Healing is pretty rewarding, but healadin'ing is not the most interesting venue to get that reward.
Hope!-- I have been given the go-ahead to keep my raiding Rogue Mutilate as long as I outperform at least one of our Sword Rogues on Void Reaver. The person generating the WWS report crashed during the attempt in which we actually downed him, but in three of the five failed attempts I was the top Rogue of three. In the others, I'm second or fighting for third.
There is hope! If I prove my worth this week, I can stay my favorite spec forever. Fire is buuurning! :x
That sounds like the type of guild I'd leave with no real regrets.
Hope!-- I have been given the go-ahead to keep my raiding Rogue Mutilate as long as I outperform at least one of our Sword Rogues on Void Reaver. The person generating the WWS report crashed during the attempt in which we actually downed him, but in three of the five failed attempts I was the top Rogue of three. In the others, I'm second or fighting for third.
There is hope! If I prove my worth this week, I can stay my favorite spec forever. Fire is buuurning! :x
Why you would gimp yourself by raiding with Mutilate is beyong me, other than actually enjoying the spec or something. :P
What build are you using?
41/20/0; nothing else to be.
Also, I'm aware that 1) my performance only shines because of other people's underperformance and 2) it's not like they made me an ultimatum, they're doing me a favor by letting me stick with the spec of my choice without having any guilt about it... if I can prove my worth. ;O
I would have gotten a great laugh if you were 41,0,20, raiding with Mutilate on a poison immune mob and you beat a Combat Sword Rogue on the meters. I would laugh long and hard.
Of course, doing it with 41,20,0 is almost just as ridiculous. The other Rogues must be horrible beyond belief.
I would have gotten a great laugh if you were 41,0,20, raiding with Mutilate on a poison immune mob and you beat a Combat Sword Rogue on the meters. I would laugh long and hard.
Of course, doing it with 41,20,0 is almost just as ridiculous. The other Rogues must be horrible beyond belief.
Exactly. They're not giving you an opprotunity, they're setting you up to fail.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Hate: There is no such thing as a group for Heroic Black Morass.
Well, certainly not PuGs.
Anyone with the level of gear required for heroic Black Morass is most likely in a raiding guild.
But if you are in a progressed guild, and you're geared enough, its 30minutes of work for three badges, and if its the daily its five badges. And there's also some nice loot too.
It's not fucking raiding difficulty! The last time I did it, it was me and some friends in blues and Kara epics!
If you're running other Heroics, you can run Heroic Black Morass. People vastly overestimate it, and they should at least fucking try. It burns me up I can't even get together a group to wipe on it. And, like, it's not even just Black Morass-- it's every Heroic that isn't Slave Pens, Underbog, or Mechanar.
I advertise looking for a group in the PAA channel, and eight dipshits will chime in WHOA THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE LOL GL WITH THAT and then it's impossible to find a group. Fucking retarded.
The daily today was Heroic Mana Tombs, and myself and a Mage tried three times to get a group together and failed before giving up for good. I even have the Yor key-- people still don't want to come. "Oh, that instance is impossible!"
No! It's not! It's not nearly! :x
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
It's not fucking raiding difficulty! The last time I did it, it was me and some friends in blues and Kara epics!
If you're running other Heroics, you can run Heroic Black Morass. People vastly overestimate it, and they should at least fucking try. It burns me up I can't even get together a group to wipe on it. And, like, it's not even just Black Morass-- it's every Heroic that isn't Slave Pens, Underbog, or Mechanar.
I advertise looking for a group in the PAA channel, and eight dipshits will chime in WHOA THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE LOL GL WITH THAT and then it's impossible to find a group. Fucking retarded.
The daily today was Heroic Mana Tombs, and myself and a Mage tried three times to get a group together and failed before giving up for good. I even have the Yor key-- people still don't want to come. "Oh, that instance is impossible!"
No! It's not! It's not nearly! :x
Most people you find in PuGs at 70 are not in blues and Kara epics.
The people with that level of gear (it may be low but its still better than a lot) have long since given up on PUGs. Mostly, you PuG your way to 70, because most guilds don't have a diverse enough level range to put together groups for non-70 instances and non-heroics on a reliable basis. Then, once you get to 70, you are probably in a guild and you run a few guild groups, realise how much better they are and how much smoother they go, and never PuG again.
The only thing I PuG is BGs, because I have to. I usually run 2-3 heroics a night on a non-raid night, and usually 1 or 2 heroics after a raid on a raid night, if the raid went well or finished early.
Dhalph, I'm not talking about PUGs, though-- I'm talking about the 120-170 players present in each of the PAA chat channels, along with my guild and the guilds of my friends. I don't really consider these 'PUGs' because I know everyone involved, and neither should they, so I don't understand why you insist that I am looking to do these Heroics in PUGs.
I'm not. I've never even considered that. The default status of the /LFG chat channel on my client is off.
Hate: There is no such thing as a group for Heroic Black Morass.
I'm always willing to do heroics if I have time and they aren't the tempest keep ones. Not because they're too hard, but because I absolutely hate those instances.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Hate: There is no such thing as a group for Heroic Black Morass.
I'm always willing to do heroics if I have time and they aren't the tempest keep ones. Not because they're too hard, but because I absolutely hate those instances.
Why?
The aesthetics? Because it sure can't be the fight mechanics.
Particularly Mechanar. Mechano Lord Capacitus is actually EASIER on heroic than on normal.
I've yet to make it into a heroic myself. Nearly had my first try Sunday (H-SV), but the group couldn't find a tank to save our lives. Hey, if I'm commited to only trying SV one more time, might as well be heroic...
So I can't talk about H-BM but pugging the standard version is pretty hit/miss. When I've run it with my tankadin friend (who has run it so many times he's exalted many times over) it went like a breeze -- but the times I haven't have been almost painful. Don't get me started on the run where the DPS got blamed that the priest wasn't healing...
Hate: There is no such thing as a group for Heroic Black Morass.
I'm always willing to do heroics if I have time and they aren't the tempest keep ones. Not because they're too hard, but because I absolutely hate those instances.
Why?
The aesthetics? Because it sure can't be the fight mechanics.
Particularly Mechanar. Mechano Lord Capacitus is actually EASIER on heroic than on normal.
Love: <Flavour Country>, the greatest guild in WoW
The following was composed by our Hunter class leader for a tank that's quitting the game to focus on school and RL:
This is goodbye, Wind
I'm making a point here: huge distress
It's hard to overstate my sad reaction
World of Warcraft
We play when we can because we must
For the good of all the raid
(except the ones in college)
But it's no use crying over every poor grade
We just keep on raiding 'til expansions get made
And the loots get won
And we have a lot of fun
With the people who are
Still online
I'm not even angry
I'm being so sincere right now
Even though this means we need a new tank
Which means more attunements
I cannot take another Kael
Even though they nerfed that fight
It takes a long time to do
But I really hope you have a wonderful time
It's a tough decision, leaving Warcraft behind
And we all hope you return, once your coursework is learned
To the people who are still online
Go ahead and study
I think I'd prefer to raid BT
Maybe we'll play other games together...
Maybe Warhammer
(That was a joke, ha ha, fat chance)
Anyway this cake is great
It's from the cooking daily
Look at me still writing when there's playing to do
When I think about it I'm sure glad I'm not you
I've got Serpentshrine to run, you've got homework to be done
For professors who are still online
And believe me they are still online
They play blood elves and they're still online
And their TAs are all still online
While you're working they are still online
And we'll miss you while we're still online
Still online
Still online
Hate: Seeing the guild lose another amazing player and an all-around great guy
Love: Narakh, Hunter class leader of Flavour Country (Dark Iron-US) (marry me?)
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Neither the whole of truth nor the whole of good is revealed to any single observer, although each observer gains a partial superiority of insight from the peculiar position in which he stands. It is enough to ask of each of us that he should be faithful to his own opportunities and make the most of his own blessings, without presuming to regulate the rest of the vast field.
Rejections of particularly bad applications have in the past been written in haiku form and (a guild favorite) to the tune of the theme to Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
[Edit]Aha! I'd forgotten about this. Someone asked what FC was "all about" in the General Discussion section of our guild forums, to which our guild leader, Sylvania, replied:
Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute, just wait and see
I'll tell you how I became GL of a guild called FC
In the Fancy Lads I was born and raised
Healing instances and raids was how I spent most of my days
Poppin mana pots and makin life-bars more green
Wit my homies "This is HORSESHIT" Gruim and Kirsh the Queen
We cleared MC, killed the Firelord
Fished for hours in AV and said "Fuck the horde"
Bested Nefarian and the old god C'thun indeed
While Curserson was afk smokin his wacky weed
While playing WoW, on vent we'd chill
Yuri being sarcastic as fuck, Pro just keepin it real
Taka /slitting wrists, Neph complaining (it's not rare)
Parsi's in the closet with the baby hair
When BC came, we decided to form our own crew
The trouble was we didn't know what the fuck to do
We had no DKP, no forums, no class, no cred
Our only entrance requirement was: "Give Syl head"
But then Blotto and Phil got the hook up, yo
We got a list of enchants from the grumpy old man, Seebo
With Nyctere and Ollam, we had some shadow priests
Narakh and Cipro come packin some wind serpent beasts
Rada'd like to be here but he's dead again, who knows
Scented tampons? Brisies and Whirr have the cons and the pros
Svid and Temp on the side with the QQ about cleaves
Meathop and Ioam, pop ur heroism prz
Aphesian's got the fraps to prove our shit is true
Ripman's a crazy Canadian, he's how we got that extra "u"
Olver's from Finland, where he found himself a wife
Parrog's from Germany, she's the only bear in my life
We also got Wind and Maz but they're kind of scrubby
Helefice's head needs to be more chubby
Hadrian's trollin on the forums, Rishya where r u
We've even got our very own Hobo too
Now we've had some server firsts heading into Serpentshrine
To see what kind of marginal upgrades we can find
Packin mad consumables 73 bagslots full
Up next is Hydross, hey resist fites r kewl
We'll have to leave the story right here for now
And I'm sure I was able to fuck it up somehow
But there you are, I hope that you can see
How we became the guild called Flavour Country
Lots of in-jokes, but you get the idea.
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Neither the whole of truth nor the whole of good is revealed to any single observer, although each observer gains a partial superiority of insight from the peculiar position in which he stands. It is enough to ask of each of us that he should be faithful to his own opportunities and make the most of his own blessings, without presuming to regulate the rest of the vast field.
happy: ring of sundered souls drops from tidewalker! my hefty donations to the guild via herbs apparently bumped me up to slightly more dkp then someone who only comes because the group wants another warrior (he loves his pally more :P).
hate: dkp, it makes people do strange and sad things.
Happy!: Got called in to do Kara with a group I ran with once before-- we proceeded to do very silly things. 3 minute Attumen, 2 minute Maiden, 3 minute Moroes (WTF), 4 minute Opera, single Evocate Curator, ... then we had a wipe on Shade due to elementals deciding to gank our primary healer while he was under missiles. Whoops! Momentum picked up after that, though. Prince wiped us once, and on the second fight we had two consecutive meddlesome infernals that we had to wait for despawns-- it was still smooth after that though (we stopped DPS at 63%, so he didn't enter Phase 2 until after the infernals were gone).
I picked up the Nightbane chestpiece, knocking off the last epic in Kara that I really needed and got my Exalted signet. The rest of the stuff I need is miscellany; I wouldn't mind Romulo's vial, or one of the epic rings (still using a blue), but it's nothing I really feel I need Kara for.
So.
Karazhan is now just awesome fun, and no longer a requirement.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited December 2007
Love: I had forgot to mention it, but Medo reminded me. 5 of the beasts and 4 wsg horde puggers (one was anti-afk in the GY) beat an Uther premade 3-0. The best part was when all ten of their guys went to our FR to fight the 8 of us there (one guy was parked in their FR). They even brought their damn flag carrier. We killed him, and ran the bugger flag in for the first cap.
We had much, much better healers than them (go beasts!)
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Hate: Shadow priest refuses to get Subtlety on his cloak because he "only pulls aggro on trash" and "can just not use VE if aggro is a problem."
The best part was shortly after arguing about this with me he pulled aggro on Anetheron and died. Not to mention the usual two or three deaths on the trash.
Aggro on a raidboss really, really shouldn't happen. I couldn't even do it on any boss cept Bloodboil, RoS, and Illidan. What kind of TPS is your tank putting out? Are you earth shielding/PoM/Misdirect/Lifebloom aiding him, especially early in pulls?
Aggro on MH trash happens at times though, especially if you heal a lot through VE. I make a point of always being near the feral tank that I know is fast to respond to such things.
I bet it's the mat cost, subtlety is now a 200g enchant. Cheapskate :P
(If he whines about losing spellpenetrations, yell at him. Only fight where it matters is council).
Oh it's totally the cost, and the fact that "I'll upgrade it in a week or two." As if we have Nethervoid Cloaks dropping two and three at a time. This is the same guy who runs Karazhan weekly for the shadow necklace that never drops. And he's wearing a cloak from Karazhan. He's had plenty of time to get it enchanted with something. (Note we have a rule that you can't win epics unless all your current shit is enchanted/gemmed, which we didn't realize we had to check up on people about like they're toddlers until recently.)
I'm not sure what was up with aggro, our MT is usually amazing, I just assumed she had some parry issues or whatever because a few people shot up Omen pretty quickly. The point stands that as a threat-capped class with no aggro dump you do more DPS if your threat output is lower. And saying "oh it's fine I'll just lower my raid utility by not using VE and making healers deal with my SW: D" is such bullshit.
Love: <Flavour Country>, the greatest guild in WoW
The following was composed by our Hunter class leader for a tank that's quitting the game to focus on school and RL:
This is goodbye, Wind
I'm making a point here: huge distress
It's hard to overstate my sad reaction
World of Warcraft
We play when we can because we must
For the good of all the raid
(except the ones in college)
But it's no use crying over every poor grade
We just keep on raiding 'til expansions get made
And the loots get won
And we have a lot of fun
With the people who are
Still online
I'm not even angry
I'm being so sincere right now
Even though this means we need a new tank
Which means more attunements
I cannot take another Kael
Even though they nerfed that fight
It takes a long time to do
But I really hope you have a wonderful time
It's a tough decision, leaving Warcraft behind
And we all hope you return, once your coursework is learned
To the people who are still online
Go ahead and study
I think I'd prefer to raid BT
Maybe we'll play other games together...
Maybe Warhammer
(That was a joke, ha ha, fat chance)
Anyway this cake is great
It's from the cooking daily
Look at me still writing when there's playing to do
When I think about it I'm sure glad I'm not you
I've got Serpentshrine to run, you've got homework to be done
For professors who are still online
And believe me they are still online
They play blood elves and they're still online
And their TAs are all still online
While you're working they are still online
And we'll miss you while we're still online
Still online
Still online
Happy: After weeks of setbacks of spending 3 hours wiping to Moroes, we finally hit our groove tonight and 1-shot to Curator in 1.5 hours.
Hate: My roommate going to his first Karazhan...
"Hey dude, is this lucky pocket watch good? I just won it."
"Hey man, I gotta respec, I just got this 2h sword from Opera"
He doesn't even have Omen! It's not fair! He's THAT guy that rolls up to Kara in greens without any add-ons. I'm gonna eat the cookies his mom sent him for Christmas.
Thank you for contacting the World of Warcraft Game Master Department.
Petition: Pathaleon the Calculator in heroic-mode Mechanar did not drop the "Pathaleon's Projector" item for the daily heroic quest.
Answer: If the group's make up changes at any point after everybody enters the instance, the quest item for the daily will not drop. This is deliberately designed to do so to prevent possible exploitation involving the daily quests.
Should you require further assistance, please submit another help request the next time you are online. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in World of Warcraft!
The answer translates as: "Oh, you lost a miscellaneous DPS class halfway through and had to replace him or not finish the instance? Haha, you're fucked bitch!"
It doesn't even make sense. There is no possible exploit! You have to be in the group that killed the quest mob to loot the quest item, so no one but the current group could possibly loot the Projector. And it's not like he respawns so that people could just keep coming in to a cleared instance to kill him for the Projector. What the hell are they smoking?
I spent four hours in that accursed place due to terrible pickups and poor luck, all because I thought I could complete the daily. I guess now I know better.
Thank you for contacting the World of Warcraft Game Master Department.
Petition: Pathaleon the Calculator in heroic-mode Mechanar did not drop the "Pathaleon's Projector" item for the daily heroic quest.
Answer: If the group's make up changes at any point after everybody enters the instance, the quest item for the daily will not drop. This is deliberately designed to do so to prevent possible exploitation involving the daily quests.
Should you require further assistance, please submit another help request the next time you are online. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in World of Warcraft!
The answer translates as: "Oh, you lost a miscellaneous DPS class halfway through and had to replace him or not finish the instance? Haha, you're fucked bitch!"
It doesn't even make sense. There is no possible exploit! You have to be in the group that killed the quest mob to loot the quest item, so no one but the current group could possibly loot the Projector. And it's not like he respawns so that people could just keep coming in to a cleared instance to kill him for the Projector. What the hell are they smoking?
That is the most retarded thing I heard this week.
Edit: I hate ToTP.
Something I don't like however is Meta Gems. Recently I got my T4 helm for my mage and I immediately went looking for a meta gem. The only one that would work without breaking any of my sockets was the Terrokar PvP one. Which isn't all THAT bad, but there was certainly better.
We did encounter a funny bug though. These mobs thought they were on the elevator, but they were actually outside. They went up and down with the elevator, even after we killed them.
Also featured here is standard Beasts guild chat. :P
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Man, I rolled Pally for TBC so I could be Ret PEW PEW; but then one of our main Holy Pallidans flakes out and I gotta respec and regear to pick up the slack.
Guy comes back about a month later to play Ret Pally...
Healing is pretty rewarding, but healadin'ing is not the most interesting venue to get that reward.
That sounds like the type of guild I'd leave with no real regrets.
Also, I'm aware that 1) my performance only shines because of other people's underperformance and 2) it's not like they made me an ultimatum, they're doing me a favor by letting me stick with the spec of my choice without having any guilt about it... if I can prove my worth. ;O
Of course, doing it with 41,20,0 is almost just as ridiculous. The other Rogues must be horrible beyond belief.
Exactly. They're not giving you an opprotunity, they're setting you up to fail.
You can get Magus to help you with difficult quests.
The irony, it burns usss.
Different server, else I would :P
Well, certainly not PuGs.
Anyone with the level of gear required for heroic Black Morass is most likely in a raiding guild.
But if you are in a progressed guild, and you're geared enough, its 30minutes of work for three badges, and if its the daily its five badges. And there's also some nice loot too.
If you're running other Heroics, you can run Heroic Black Morass. People vastly overestimate it, and they should at least fucking try. It burns me up I can't even get together a group to wipe on it. And, like, it's not even just Black Morass-- it's every Heroic that isn't Slave Pens, Underbog, or Mechanar.
I advertise looking for a group in the PAA channel, and eight dipshits will chime in WHOA THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE LOL GL WITH THAT and then it's impossible to find a group. Fucking retarded.
The daily today was Heroic Mana Tombs, and myself and a Mage tried three times to get a group together and failed before giving up for good. I even have the Yor key-- people still don't want to come. "Oh, that instance is impossible!"
No! It's not! It's not nearly! :x
Most people you find in PuGs at 70 are not in blues and Kara epics.
The people with that level of gear (it may be low but its still better than a lot) have long since given up on PUGs. Mostly, you PuG your way to 70, because most guilds don't have a diverse enough level range to put together groups for non-70 instances and non-heroics on a reliable basis. Then, once you get to 70, you are probably in a guild and you run a few guild groups, realise how much better they are and how much smoother they go, and never PuG again.
The only thing I PuG is BGs, because I have to. I usually run 2-3 heroics a night on a non-raid night, and usually 1 or 2 heroics after a raid on a raid night, if the raid went well or finished early.
Heroic Auchenai Crypts on the other hand is something to avoid.
I have been on a heroic Black Morass run with my warlock it's not that bad of a place compared to some of the other heroic runs I have been on
I'm not. I've never even considered that. The default status of the /LFG chat channel on my client is off.
Second half is so easy.
I'm always willing to do heroics if I have time and they aren't the tempest keep ones. Not because they're too hard, but because I absolutely hate those instances.
Why?
The aesthetics? Because it sure can't be the fight mechanics.
Particularly Mechanar. Mechano Lord Capacitus is actually EASIER on heroic than on normal.
So I can't talk about H-BM but pugging the standard version is pretty hit/miss. When I've run it with my tankadin friend (who has run it so many times he's exalted many times over) it went like a breeze -- but the times I haven't have been almost painful. Don't get me started on the run where the DPS got blamed that the priest wasn't healing...
I'm not sure why, I've just always hated them.
The following was composed by our Hunter class leader for a tank that's quitting the game to focus on school and RL:
(http://digg.com/pc_games/Still_Online_A_touching_tribute_from_a_guildmate, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547585539&sid=1)
Hate: Seeing the guild lose another amazing player and an all-around great guy
Love: Narakh, Hunter class leader of Flavour Country (Dark Iron-US) (marry me?)
Wish i had guildies like that...
Hate: Not having guildies like that!
[Edit]Aha! I'd forgotten about this. Someone asked what FC was "all about" in the General Discussion section of our guild forums, to which our guild leader, Sylvania, replied:
Lots of in-jokes, but you get the idea.
hate: dkp, it makes people do strange and sad things.
I'm dead serious."
I picked up the Nightbane chestpiece, knocking off the last epic in Kara that I really needed and got my Exalted signet. The rest of the stuff I need is miscellany; I wouldn't mind Romulo's vial, or one of the epic rings (still using a blue), but it's nothing I really feel I need Kara for.
So.
Karazhan is now just awesome fun, and no longer a requirement.
We had much, much better healers than them (go beasts!)
The best part was shortly after arguing about this with me he pulled aggro on Anetheron and died. Not to mention the usual two or three deaths on the trash.
Aggro on MH trash happens at times though, especially if you heal a lot through VE. I make a point of always being near the feral tank that I know is fast to respond to such things.
I bet it's the mat cost, subtlety is now a 200g enchant. Cheapskate :P
(If he whines about losing spellpenetrations, yell at him. Only fight where it matters is council).
I'm not sure what was up with aggro, our MT is usually amazing, I just assumed she had some parry issues or whatever because a few people shot up Omen pretty quickly. The point stands that as a threat-capped class with no aggro dump you do more DPS if your threat output is lower. And saying "oh it's fine I'll just lower my raid utility by not using VE and making healers deal with my SW: D" is such bullshit.
That is fucking epic and made of win.
Narakh, I salute you.
PS: The RNG is a lie!
Hate: My roommate going to his first Karazhan...
"Hey dude, is this lucky pocket watch good? I just won it."
"Hey man, I gotta respec, I just got this 2h sword from Opera"
He doesn't even have Omen! It's not fair! He's THAT guy that rolls up to Kara in greens without any add-ons. I'm gonna eat the cookies his mom sent him for Christmas.
The answer translates as: "Oh, you lost a miscellaneous DPS class halfway through and had to replace him or not finish the instance? Haha, you're fucked bitch!"
It doesn't even make sense. There is no possible exploit! You have to be in the group that killed the quest mob to loot the quest item, so no one but the current group could possibly loot the Projector. And it's not like he respawns so that people could just keep coming in to a cleared instance to kill him for the Projector. What the hell are they smoking?
I spent four hours in that accursed place due to terrible pickups and poor luck, all because I thought I could complete the daily. I guess now I know better.
That is the most retarded thing I heard this week.
Edit: I hate ToTP.
Something I don't like however is Meta Gems. Recently I got my T4 helm for my mage and I immediately went looking for a meta gem. The only one that would work without breaking any of my sockets was the Terrokar PvP one. Which isn't all THAT bad, but there was certainly better.
I mean, either the GM is wrong, or woefully uninformed/misinformed as to the mechanics of the game.
Also featured here is standard Beasts guild chat. :P