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So I'll be playing the PC version of this for a long time today after work. I just picked myself up an 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 card... And holy shit, it's going to rock my face.
Lag has improved greatly since the last time I was able to hop on. The PS3 servers are now running smooth as far as I can tell, really having a blast with the game...just nice mindless FPS run and gun.
Picked up the console version yesterday. Handles like a dream... for right-handed players.
I'm getting sick of FPSs that have shit-all in terms of controller configuration customization. I put down UTIII and started playing the Orange Box, which I also got yesterday. Happy to say Valve covered all the bases in the customization options.
Just out of curiosity, does the console version of the Orange Box have Keyboard + Mouse support?
Picked up the console version yesterday. Handles like a dream... for right-handed players.
I'm getting sick of FPSs that have shit-all in terms of controller configuration customization. I put down UTIII and started playing the Orange Box, which I also got yesterday. Happy to say Valve covered all the bases in the customization options.
Just out of curiosity, does the console version of the Orange Box have Keyboard + Mouse support?
It's on 360, so 'no' would be the default answer there. MS doesn't want people adding keyboards and mice to it's console, largely in fear of where that would lead it. I suppose I can understand that in a way.
EDIT: The future PS3 version though (I believe there's going to be a PS3 port isn't there?) will probably support keyboard and mouse.
Picked up the console version yesterday. Handles like a dream... for right-handed players.
I'm getting sick of FPSs that have shit-all in terms of controller configuration customization. I put down UTIII and started playing the Orange Box, which I also got yesterday. Happy to say Valve covered all the bases in the customization options.
Just out of curiosity, does the console version of the Orange Box have Keyboard + Mouse support?
It's on 360, so 'no' would be the default answer there. MS doesn't want people adding keyboards and mice to it's console, largely in fear of where that would lead it. I suppose I can understand that in a way.
EDIT: The future PS3 version though (I believe there's going to be a PS3 port isn't there?) will probably support keyboard and mouse.
The PS3 version came out the same day as UT3, which was why I assumed MuttonChop's comparison was on a Sony Defense Force-approved platform.
Sadly, the PS3 Orange Box is an EA-adapted affair, and is getting soundly thrashed in reviews due to technical gaffes. Oh, you guys.
I really, really like playing this on my PS3. My only computer is my Macbook, so that sure as hell wasn't running UT3 even if I threw XP on it, so it was either PS3 or 360. PS3 has mods and no constant voice chat (Unless you hook up a headset, then you can hear and talk to other players. If you don't hook up a headset, you can't hear other players. Nice touch.) because I want to DM pubs but I don't want to hear a 12 year old screaming racial slurs at people or singing a rap song. Also, KBM support is a nice touch should I choose to go that route in the future. On the flip side, I'm glad you can choose not to find games with KBM players if you are only using the controller.
I think the speed is just fine, it works really well for a gamepad and is still really hectic. Locking the game at 30fps was a wise choice, no graphical dropout even with a lot of players in the same area. The weapons are as gloriously broken as ever, which is fine since I'm a Flak Cannon whore.
Oh, and the rumble feels real nice on the Dual Shock 3.
The PS3 version came out the same day as UT3, which was why I assumed MuttonChop's comparison was on a Sony Defense Force-approved platform.
Sadly, the PS3 Orange Box is an EA-adapted affair, and is getting soundly thrashed in reviews due to technical gaffes. Oh, you guys.
Oh Jesus. Don't bring Sony Defense Force Fuckwaddery into this.
UTIII was released on the 11th, Orange Box on the 12th. I got them both on the 12th. UTIII supports KB&M, Orange Box doesn't. I haven't played the 360 version of the Orange Box, but I have played it on PC. I haven't experienced any of the dips in frame-rate yet, but that's because I've only played TF2 and Portal so far. They're the reasons I bought the game. The frame-rate issues reportedly occur in the Half-life 2 portions. Other than that load times are slightly longer and the soldier's rocket has a bit of a delay. Not game-breaking gaffes by any means. I got my money's worth in Portal and TF2.
The whole reason for the comparison between PS3 UTIII and Orange Box PS3 was that Midway needs to take a page from Valves book (and the majority of FPSs out there) and allow the player to completely optimize their controller layout.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
The game is extremely fast paced....but also with the mods thing I know the ps3 can do the mods and maps and stuff but I was kinda thinking wouldn't it get quite full after a while...I mean for ut2k4 with all the maps and mods I had, it was like 30 gigs of space taken if not more. Also I can't imagine that all mods are supported there must be some catch or something, like with the total conversions and stuff that come out for the game...
Also the servers when I have been on have been pretty robust in terms of player base and I got the game the day it came out.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
Get the PC version, if you have a decent machine then it is superior.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
It almost sounds, though, that the PS3 UT3 is getting more sales. I mean, I at least feel like I've seen more PS3 owners here than PC ones, and I've heard that the PS3 has a couple thousand users on whereas the PC only has like 500 people online at one time. I could be hearing mega-wrong, though. At least you shouldn't be alone on the PS3.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
It almost sounds, though, that the PS3 UT3 is getting more sales. I mean, I at least feel like I've seen more PS3 owners here than PC ones, and I've heard that the PS3 has a couple thousand users on whereas the PC only has like 500 people online at one time. I could be hearing mega-wrong, though. At least you shouldn't be alone on the PS3.
UT has about the longest legs in any PC software (aside from Diablo/Starcraft). I played UT2k3 for a few weeks at release and hardly found anyone online. Booted it up a year ago, and there are way too many people playing the game.
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
It almost sounds, though, that the PS3 UT3 is getting more sales. I mean, I at least feel like I've seen more PS3 owners here than PC ones, and I've heard that the PS3 has a couple thousand users on whereas the PC only has like 500 people online at one time. I could be hearing mega-wrong, though. At least you shouldn't be alone on the PS3.
UT has about the longest legs in any PC software (aside from Diablo/Starcraft). I played UT2k3 for a few weeks at release and hardly found anyone online. Booted it up a year ago, and there are way too many people playing the game.
Ah, so releases for UT are really slow, but they eventually get a lot of people?
After all this discussion, I'm still on the fence. My PC can handle it easy, but if I end up getting it on the PS3 it'll pretty much be because I want a PS3 multiplayer game that doesn't happen to be Warhawk or Eye of Judgement (both which I have). Oh, and because I've got Crysis, Medieval II, Orange Box, The Witcher, NWN2, GoW PC, and Oblivion all on my PC, begging me for time. Like that one comparison video mentioned, the PC FPS market is supersaturated with goodness. AND I've been considering CoD4 via Steam!
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
It almost sounds, though, that the PS3 UT3 is getting more sales. I mean, I at least feel like I've seen more PS3 owners here than PC ones, and I've heard that the PS3 has a couple thousand users on whereas the PC only has like 500 people online at one time. I could be hearing mega-wrong, though. At least you shouldn't be alone on the PS3.
UT has about the longest legs in any PC software (aside from Diablo/Starcraft). I played UT2k3 for a few weeks at release and hardly found anyone online. Booted it up a year ago, and there are way too many people playing the game.
Ah, so releases for UT are really slow, but they eventually get a lot of people?
Not necessarily. Back in 2003, maybe UT wasn't quite as established, and now a days, well, there is so much competition for the FPS market. People only have so much money and if someone were to buy a wii, rock band, Halo 3, and one or two other games, it's quite easy to blow nearly $1,000...
UT3 also hasn't stirred up much hype though, mostly because it is what people expect, more Unreal, bigger and better Unreal. Bioshock for example was something completely different, and so it received more hype.
Okay, that's it man, fuck Team Deathmatch. 20min, forced respawn, Biohazard map with like, 16 people...
It.
Is.
Insanity.
You die so quickly, you kill even quicker, there is globs of goo everywhere from the abundance of the bio rifle and rockets flying everywhere with the covetted rocket launcher. I mean, this level is compacted too, it's brutal and getting nearly or over a hundred frags is no problem. Fortunately there was very little lag, but hoooly shit. I mean, this was truly insane shit. Life expectancy was somewhere under 10seconds...
I can't even imagine what it would be like with a gamepad at this speed...
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Guys my gaming rig will be here in the next couple of days.
Do you have the game? Are you looking at the box art and reading the manual while you wait for your PC?
Well!?
Also, I really do hope after the holidays we get some real UT3 GAME ON thread action going. As it is right now, there are like, 4 people that have PC and nobody has accepted my friend requests... =P
Bah. I fucking hate playing the Single Player. The bots make YOU do every damn thing.... I'd finally get this checkpoint... and run to get the orb. Grab the orb, and the enemy takes that checkpoint.
Cool. I run back and get the checkpoint, and run back to the orb. The enemy then grabs that checkpoint.
All the while the bots are sitting in the corner circle jerking/playing limp biscuit. I told them all to attack, and they didn't do shit.
I'll be getting online with this game here in the next few days. I think I'm ready to fight some real people.
EDIT: Lucky, did you shoot me one? I didn't get a notification!
Bah. I fucking hate playing the Single Player. The bots make YOU do every damn thing.... I'd finally get this checkpoint... and run to get the orb. Grab the orb, and the enemy takes that checkpoint.
Cool. I run back and get the checkpoint, and run back to the orb. The enemy then grabs that checkpoint.
All the while the bots are sitting in the corner circle jerking/playing limp biscuit. I told them all to attack, and they didn't do shit.
I'll be getting online with this game here in the next few days. I think I'm ready to fight some real people.
EDIT: Lucky, did you shoot me one? I didn't get a notification!
You don't deserve one!
(Read as: PM me your name)
Oh, and just change the orders from the pause menu to attack. If you did that, then try and play a card to even things out.
The whole reason for the comparison between PS3 UTIII and Orange Box PS3 was that Midway needs to take a page from Valves book (and the majority of FPSs out there) and allow the player to completely optimize their controller layout.
You can completely remap your controller in UT3, in fact you pretty much have to if you plan on winning any matches as the default layout is ass.
So I hear the PC version has been patched already. Has the PS3 version been similarly patched? Can we expect the PS3 to keep up in terms of gameplay and technical fixes? I have my PS3 copy sitting at home, but unopened, as I just yesterday finished semester finals.
So I hear the PC version has been patched already. Has the PS3 version been similarly patched? Can we expect the PS3 to keep up in terms of gameplay and technical fixes? I have my PS3 copy sitting at home, but unopened, as I just yesterday finished semester finals.
No, any patches for the PS3 have to go through Sony's lengthy authentication process, so it won't keep up with the PC version. PC patches are just tested and put out on the interwebs. This is the exact reason they didn't put in cross platform play.
I don't know if I told you guys here or not, but I went back a few weeks ago and played Halo3 for the first time against my friends... yeah. It was a slaughter. I had been no scoping with the sniper rifle and picking them off from 50 ft with a head shot no problem. That and with the assault rifle, I mean, everything just moved at such a pace that I had to almost get used to for it to take 20min to run over there and grab that ammo or gun...
The whole reason for the comparison between PS3 UTIII and Orange Box PS3 was that Midway needs to take a page from Valves book (and the majority of FPSs out there) and allow the player to completely optimize their controller layout.
You can completely remap your controller in UT3, in fact you pretty much have to if you plan on winning any matches as the default layout is ass.
You may be able to remap the buttons, but there is only one option for the thumbsticks. Default: LS=move/strafe, RS=(pitch)look/turn. What I'm looking for is South Paw or Legacy. South Paw is the same as default with the functions of the thumbsticks swapped. Legacy: LS=move/turn, RS=strafe/(pitch)look. Legacy is an older config, originated in Goldeye/Prefect Dark I believe, but I'm still better with it than default right-handed controls.
*EDIT* If there is an option somewhere to change the thumbstick config post and let me know where it is. I checked control options and double-checked, but now you've got me second-guessing myself. I can use default, barely. It's how the controls worked in Uncharted when you put Drake into aim mode. That game is slow enough that I became very proficient with it, but for something like UTIII I'm gonna get pwnd if I go online with the default config.
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
As for UT3 itself on the console, the game felt extremely fast even after the speed reduction compared to UT '99, the last I played in the series - indeed it felt and looked a lot like Q3A with UT levels, weapons, and trappings. (Yeah, I know this is a retarded comparison everyone makes, but it's the closest I have for this game.) Coming over from COD4 the game is unpleasantly fast.
My biggest complaint with the game is definitely the matchmaking system; it's very PC-like and menu-intensive just to get into a game compared with say COD4. Quick match seems to fail just about every time. I also miss the ranking systems of COD4 and Halo 3, and the number of game modes. As far as I can tell the game has DM, TDM, 2-flag CTF, and Warfare or Onslaught or whatever it's called - not really very many.
Bah. I fucking hate playing the Single Player. The bots make YOU do every damn thing.... I'd finally get this checkpoint... and run to get the orb. Grab the orb, and the enemy takes that checkpoint.
Cool. I run back and get the checkpoint, and run back to the orb. The enemy then grabs that checkpoint.
All the while the bots are sitting in the corner circle jerking/playing limp biscuit. I told them all to attack, and they didn't do shit.
I'll be getting online with this game here in the next few days. I think I'm ready to fight some real people.
EDIT: Lucky, did you shoot me one? I didn't get a notification!
You don't deserve one!
(Read as: PM me your name)
Oh, and just change the orders from the pause menu to attack. If you did that, then try and play a card to even things out.
The name is the same as my account here. Normally always is. :P It's in the other UT3 thread that's floating around.
The whole reason for the comparison between PS3 UTIII and Orange Box PS3 was that Midway needs to take a page from Valves book (and the majority of FPSs out there) and allow the player to completely optimize their controller layout.
You can completely remap your controller in UT3, in fact you pretty much have to if you plan on winning any matches as the default layout is ass.
You may be able to remap the buttons, but there is only one option for the thumbsticks. Default: LS=move/strafe, RS=(pitch)look/turn. What I'm looking for is South Paw or Legacy. South Paw is the same as default with the functions of the thumbsticks swapped. Legacy: LS=move/turn, RS=strafe/(pitch)look. Legacy is an older config, originated in Goldeye/Prefect Dark I believe, but I'm still better with it than default right-handed controls.
*EDIT* If there is an option somewhere to change the thumbstick config post and let me know where it is. I checked control options and double-checked, but now you've got me second-guessing myself. I can use default, barely. It's how the controls worked in Uncharted when you put Drake into aim mode. That game is slow enough that I became very proficient with it, but for something like UTIII I'm gonna get pwnd if I go online with the default config.
Okay, upon triple checking I noticed that once you've entered Input you have to press triangle to enter Controller. I didn't pay enough attention yesterday. My bad. I take back what I said earlier about Midway needed to take a lesson in console FPSs. The next two configs after Default are South Paw and Legacy. Now I'm a happy camper. Some added bonuses: under Weapons you can toggle the size of the weapons on-screen to small and switch the weapon over to the left-hand side of the screen, but the trigger button switches over too. I'll be keeping it on the right. I guess I should say other companies need to take a lesson from Midway in console FPS.
*EDIT* Oh yeah, then there's the whole KB&M support as well for those who prefer it
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
Are you able to go online and play gamepadders with the M/KB? Because that would pretty much ruin online play for most PS3 owners. It would be like tossing a lion into a herd of sheep.
As for UT3 itself on the console, the game felt extremely fast even after the speed reduction compared to UT '99, the last I played in the series - indeed it felt and looked a lot like Q3A with UT levels, weapons, and trappings. (Yeah, I know this is a retarded comparison everyone makes, but it's the closest I have for this game.) Coming over from COD4 the game is unpleasantly fast.
The game runs about 30% slower than the PC version, but even then, it is almost unplayable on a gamepad.
My biggest complaint with the game is definitely the matchmaking system; it's very PC-like and menu-intensive just to get into a game compared with say COD4. Quick match seems to fail just about every time. I also miss the ranking systems of COD4 and Halo 3, and the number of game modes. As far as I can tell the game has DM, TDM, 2-flag CTF, and Warfare or Onslaught or whatever it's called - not really very many.
They reduced the number of modes on purpose. In the last iteration, the already tiny community was split into dozens of factions that wouldn't ever play with each other.
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
Are you able to go online and play gamepadders with the M/KB? Because that would pretty much ruin online play for most PS3 owners. It would be like tossing a lion into a herd of sheep.
KB&M players can play with people with controller, but people with controllers can choose during matchmaking to find games were no one is using KB&M.
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
Are you able to go online and play gamepadders with the M/KB? Because that would pretty much ruin online play for most PS3 owners. It would be like tossing a lion into a herd of sheep.
KB&M players can play with people with controller, but people with controllers can choose during matchmaking to find games were no one is using KB&M.
Are you serious? That even further divides the PS3 market.
This game seems incredibly well done on the PS3. For once, a port doesn't suck. And since my computer is just old enough to play CS:Source - I'll probably grab this on PS3.
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
Are you able to go online and play gamepadders with the M/KB? Because that would pretty much ruin online play for most PS3 owners. It would be like tossing a lion into a herd of sheep.
KB&M players can play with people with controller, but people with controllers can choose during matchmaking to find games were no one is using KB&M.
Are you serious? That even further divides the PS3 market.
It was a nessecary evil to ensure that people using controllers can find an "even playing field".
Because I mean seriously, everyone knows M/KB users will destroy controller users unless the game is designed to balance both ala Shadowrun.
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Just out of curiosity, does the console version of the Orange Box have Keyboard + Mouse support?
It's on 360, so 'no' would be the default answer there. MS doesn't want people adding keyboards and mice to it's console, largely in fear of where that would lead it. I suppose I can understand that in a way.
EDIT: The future PS3 version though (I believe there's going to be a PS3 port isn't there?) will probably support keyboard and mouse.
The PS3 version came out the same day as UT3, which was why I assumed MuttonChop's comparison was on a Sony Defense Force-approved platform.
Sadly, the PS3 Orange Box is an EA-adapted affair, and is getting soundly thrashed in reviews due to technical gaffes. Oh, you guys.
I think the speed is just fine, it works really well for a gamepad and is still really hectic. Locking the game at 30fps was a wise choice, no graphical dropout even with a lot of players in the same area. The weapons are as gloriously broken as ever, which is fine since I'm a Flak Cannon whore.
Oh, and the rumble feels real nice on the Dual Shock 3.
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Oh Jesus. Don't bring Sony Defense Force Fuckwaddery into this.
UTIII was released on the 11th, Orange Box on the 12th. I got them both on the 12th. UTIII supports KB&M, Orange Box doesn't. I haven't played the 360 version of the Orange Box, but I have played it on PC. I haven't experienced any of the dips in frame-rate yet, but that's because I've only played TF2 and Portal so far. They're the reasons I bought the game. The frame-rate issues reportedly occur in the Half-life 2 portions. Other than that load times are slightly longer and the soldier's rocket has a bit of a delay. Not game-breaking gaffes by any means. I got my money's worth in Portal and TF2.
The whole reason for the comparison between PS3 UTIII and Orange Box PS3 was that Midway needs to take a page from Valves book (and the majority of FPSs out there) and allow the player to completely optimize their controller layout.
So now my question is: should I get UT3 PS3 just to console my console? For the record I preferred UT2K4 to UT99.
Also the servers when I have been on have been pretty robust in terms of player base and I got the game the day it came out.
I'd buy it for the PC if I had the choice.
Reasons? Patches on the PC will come at a constant rate, and keep you up to date with any bugs. The PS3 version will probably have to go through some management channels in order to get on it.
Also I don't know how hard it would be to get a mod to work with the PS3, but with the PC you just download and double click the .exe and enjoy it.
You're forgetting that the majority of the people who buy UT3 are on the PC and thus will probably have many more servers to play on.
It almost sounds, though, that the PS3 UT3 is getting more sales. I mean, I at least feel like I've seen more PS3 owners here than PC ones, and I've heard that the PS3 has a couple thousand users on whereas the PC only has like 500 people online at one time. I could be hearing mega-wrong, though. At least you shouldn't be alone on the PS3.
UT has about the longest legs in any PC software (aside from Diablo/Starcraft). I played UT2k3 for a few weeks at release and hardly found anyone online. Booted it up a year ago, and there are way too many people playing the game.
Ah, so releases for UT are really slow, but they eventually get a lot of people?
Not necessarily. Back in 2003, maybe UT wasn't quite as established, and now a days, well, there is so much competition for the FPS market. People only have so much money and if someone were to buy a wii, rock band, Halo 3, and one or two other games, it's quite easy to blow nearly $1,000...
UT3 also hasn't stirred up much hype though, mostly because it is what people expect, more Unreal, bigger and better Unreal. Bioshock for example was something completely different, and so it received more hype.
I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 KB&M, but since the game's speed is decreased a bit on PS3, I have no idea how it'd 'feel.'
It's fast as fuck on PC, but it feels like it's always been to me.
It.
Is.
Insanity.
You die so quickly, you kill even quicker, there is globs of goo everywhere from the abundance of the bio rifle and rockets flying everywhere with the covetted rocket launcher. I mean, this level is compacted too, it's brutal and getting nearly or over a hundred frags is no problem. Fortunately there was very little lag, but hoooly shit. I mean, this was truly insane shit. Life expectancy was somewhere under 10seconds...
I can't even imagine what it would be like with a gamepad at this speed...
Do not make me come yet, not yet
Well!?
Also, I really do hope after the holidays we get some real UT3 GAME ON thread action going. As it is right now, there are like, 4 people that have PC and nobody has accepted my friend requests... =P
Cool. I run back and get the checkpoint, and run back to the orb. The enemy then grabs that checkpoint.
All the while the bots are sitting in the corner circle jerking/playing limp biscuit. I told them all to attack, and they didn't do shit.
I'll be getting online with this game here in the next few days. I think I'm ready to fight some real people.
EDIT: Lucky, did you shoot me one? I didn't get a notification!
You don't deserve one!
(Read as: PM me your name)
Oh, and just change the orders from the pause menu to attack. If you did that, then try and play a card to even things out.
You can completely remap your controller in UT3, in fact you pretty much have to if you plan on winning any matches as the default layout is ass.
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No, any patches for the PS3 have to go through Sony's lengthy authentication process, so it won't keep up with the PC version. PC patches are just tested and put out on the interwebs. This is the exact reason they didn't put in cross platform play.
That's why I'm getting it for the PC.
You may be able to remap the buttons, but there is only one option for the thumbsticks. Default: LS=move/strafe, RS=(pitch)look/turn. What I'm looking for is South Paw or Legacy. South Paw is the same as default with the functions of the thumbsticks swapped. Legacy: LS=move/turn, RS=strafe/(pitch)look. Legacy is an older config, originated in Goldeye/Prefect Dark I believe, but I'm still better with it than default right-handed controls.
*EDIT* If there is an option somewhere to change the thumbstick config post and let me know where it is. I checked control options and double-checked, but now you've got me second-guessing myself. I can use default, barely. It's how the controls worked in Uncharted when you put Drake into aim mode. That game is slow enough that I became very proficient with it, but for something like UTIII I'm gonna get pwnd if I go online with the default config.
My roommate got the keyboard and mouse set up on his PS3 last night. You can use any ol' USB keyboard and mouse apparently; he brought his mouse home from work. I got about 20 minutes in and the mouse control was excellent, way better than any mouse implementations I've seen on the PS3 to date (he's also used a third-party mouse for GRAW 2 and I think R6V). It was close enough to the PC experience that my reflexes were basically intact from 8 years ago, after I cranked the sensitivity up pretty high.
As for UT3 itself on the console, the game felt extremely fast even after the speed reduction compared to UT '99, the last I played in the series - indeed it felt and looked a lot like Q3A with UT levels, weapons, and trappings. (Yeah, I know this is a retarded comparison everyone makes, but it's the closest I have for this game.) Coming over from COD4 the game is unpleasantly fast.
My biggest complaint with the game is definitely the matchmaking system; it's very PC-like and menu-intensive just to get into a game compared with say COD4. Quick match seems to fail just about every time. I also miss the ranking systems of COD4 and Halo 3, and the number of game modes. As far as I can tell the game has DM, TDM, 2-flag CTF, and Warfare or Onslaught or whatever it's called - not really very many.
The name is the same as my account here. Normally always is. :P It's in the other UT3 thread that's floating around.
Okay, upon triple checking I noticed that once you've entered Input you have to press triangle to enter Controller. I didn't pay enough attention yesterday. My bad. I take back what I said earlier about Midway needed to take a lesson in console FPSs. The next two configs after Default are South Paw and Legacy. Now I'm a happy camper. Some added bonuses: under Weapons you can toggle the size of the weapons on-screen to small and switch the weapon over to the left-hand side of the screen, but the trigger button switches over too. I'll be keeping it on the right. I guess I should say other companies need to take a lesson from Midway in console FPS.
*EDIT* Oh yeah, then there's the whole KB&M support as well for those who prefer it
The game runs about 30% slower than the PC version, but even then, it is almost unplayable on a gamepad.
They reduced the number of modes on purpose. In the last iteration, the already tiny community was split into dozens of factions that wouldn't ever play with each other.
KB&M players can play with people with controller, but people with controllers can choose during matchmaking to find games were no one is using KB&M.
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Are you serious? That even further divides the PS3 market.
It was a nessecary evil to ensure that people using controllers can find an "even playing field".
Because I mean seriously, everyone knows M/KB users will destroy controller users unless the game is designed to balance both ala Shadowrun.