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  • AnimeleeAnimelee Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I never understood how if Mewtwo is a clone of Mew his number is 150 compared to Mew's 151

    It's a question we Pokémon fans have been wondering about since '98. I guess Game Freak didn't think about it. :P

    Very few loopholes in the Pokémon mythology (games and show), though.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I never understood how if Mewtwo is a clone of Mew his number is 150 compared to Mew's 151
    Mew isnt in the first game and is only obtainable by going to a nintendo special event. So he dosnt really count towards getting the certificate of 150 in the first games.

    Of course recently I think most pokemon have been renumbered and its less of a big deal in the newer games.

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  • AnimeleeAnimelee Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I never understood how if Mewtwo is a clone of Mew his number is 150 compared to Mew's 151
    Mew isnt in the first game and is only obtainable by going to a nintendo special event. So he dosnt really count towards getting the certificate of 150 in the first games.

    Of course recently I think most pokemon have been renumbered and its less of a big deal in the newer games.

    Mew is in Green and Red, but yeah, it was hidden.

    There are a bunch of different numbering systems (each region has its own numbering system before you upgrade your Pokedex to National), but the main one is the National Dex, which is the official numbering system that's remained unchanged since 1996.

    Every time a new game comes out, Pokemon are just added onto it, but previous numberings remain unchanged.

    I'm gonna stop talking about Pokemon before I get the topic closed for going off-topic. D::lol:

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    They were pretty happy with killing Ash.

    I did like the anime when I was younger. I always loved the world they had built - it seemed so cohesive.
    Piloswine 4 lief

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Animelee wrote: »
    Bedlam wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I never understood how if Mewtwo is a clone of Mew his number is 150 compared to Mew's 151
    Mew isnt in the first game and is only obtainable by going to a nintendo special event. So he dosnt really count towards getting the certificate of 150 in the first games.

    Of course recently I think most pokemon have been renumbered and its less of a big deal in the newer games.

    Mew is in Green and Red, but yeah, it was hidden.

    There are a bunch of different numbering systems (each region has its own numbering system before you upgrade your Pokedex to National), but the main one is the National Dex, which is the official numbering system that's remained unchanged since 1996.

    Every time a new game comes out, Pokemon are just added onto it, but previous numberings remain unchanged.

    I'm gonna stop talking about Pokemon before I get the topic closed for going off-topic. D::lol:

    Everytime I see your sig I expect either Stabler to beat me up and call me a pedophile, Goran to create some elaborate trap that makes me confess, or Jack McCoy to litigate me so bad I have no idea what the fucks going on.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Like Capt. F, it's just a matter of time.
    I'm actually starting to seriously wonder about this. We've had a several month succession of non-character updates that he could have filled in easily, but we still don't have him. There has to be some reason to hold him back.

    I'm wondering if we got a Ness-esque character replacement, but I'm not familiar enough with the F-Zero to guess who would actually replace him.

    Still, something is not right at this point.

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  • UltrachristUltrachrist Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The F-Zero icon is Captain Falcon's emblem (as seen in the samurai goroh update). He may be unlockable like he was in 64 with some kind of speed challenge.

    EDIT: Also, we had a month or two of fairly week updates (menus and such), and this last week or so was excellent. It's possible the delay put the normal updates on a 2 month hold where they picked up fillers and Falcon is still a starter and just hasn't been revealed.

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Never doubt the power and swift vengeance the falcon punch demands

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    I didn't realize Mewtwo was a villain at all. I thought he was just a rare pokemon. What, is he bent on world domination?

    In the game's continuity, Mewtwo was a failed clone of the mythical Pokemon Mew. It's extremely violent and reclusive. It's been sealed away in the Unknown Dungeon, and defeating it in RBY is the ultimate sign of your Pokemon mastery.

    The anime takes it a little further. Mewtwo is created by Team Rocket, but being as or more intelligent than them, resents that it's being treated like a slave. Furthermore, it harbors deep hatred for humanity in general for what it sees as their abuse and exploitation of Pokemon, and for that reason wants to destroy mankind. He has a change of heart, however, after seeing how Ash's death causes Pikachu to fall to pieces, and revives him before going off to live a life of quiet solitude.

    Personally, I think either Giovanni packing Golbat, Raticate, and Nidoking or Gary packing Blastoise, Alakazam, and Arcanine would be a much more iconic Pokevillain.

    I don't know; if you're going to have an iconic Pokemon villain, I really think that, assuming they don't just reuse Mewtwo, they can go for anyone but Team Rocket. Specifically, those two Team Rocket members. You know the two. Yes, they're pretty anime exclusive, but the anime did really define most of the other game's iconics, like Jigglypuff. And hell, Pikachu meant nothing in the games; he was a rare pokemon in an early forest that most people likely never even captured. It was only after the anime took off that the electric rat became so archetypal.

    Oh, and I'm just going to assume that Inafune's being coy and/or under a NDA. Because my heart would break otherwise.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Blue is absolutely the best choice for a Pokemon rival.

    Edit: Although a generic Team Rocket player or Giovanni would be neat too.

    Edit: Edit: I suppose since Pokemon Trainer is simply called "Pokemon Trainer," Blue is unlikely. Damn it.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    I didn't realize Mewtwo was a villain at all. I thought he was just a rare pokemon. What, is he bent on world domination?

    In the game's continuity, Mewtwo was a failed clone of the mythical Pokemon Mew. It's extremely violent and reclusive. It's been sealed away in the Unknown Dungeon, and defeating it in RBY is the ultimate sign of your Pokemon mastery.

    The anime takes it a little further. Mewtwo is created by Team Rocket, but being as or more intelligent than them, resents that it's being treated like a slave. Furthermore, it harbors deep hatred for humanity in general for what it sees as their abuse and exploitation of Pokemon, and for that reason wants to destroy mankind. He has a change of heart, however, after seeing how Ash's death causes Pikachu to fall to pieces, and revives him before going off to live a life of quiet solitude.

    Personally, I think either Giovanni packing Golbat, Raticate, and Nidoking or Gary packing Blastoise, Alakazam, and Arcanine would be a much more iconic Pokevillain.

    I don't know; if you're going to have an iconic Pokemon villain, I really think that, assuming they don't just reuse Mewtwo, they can go for anyone but Team Rocket. Specifically, those two Team Rocket members. You know the two. Yes, they're pretty anime exclusive, but the anime did really define most of the other game's iconics, like Jigglypuff. And hell, Pikachu meant nothing in the games; he was a rare pokemon in an early forest that most people likely never even captured. It was only after the anime took off that the electric rat became so archetypal.

    Oh, and I'm just going to assume that Inafune's being coy and/or under a NDA. Because my heart would break otherwise.
    Eh, if we're going for a generic Team Rocket member, I'd prefer a Rocket Grunt. Those berets and Zorro masks were classy.

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  • UltrachristUltrachrist Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If it's just for the story mode, they could make an evil pokemon trainer but just make him use already playable pokemon, but give them the illusion of being in pokeballs. Like X trainer uses, jigglypuff, [new unlockable pokemon], and mewtwo to battle the playable PT.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Aw man, now I DO kinda wish we get Mewtwo back, so that there can be an epic bit where PT fights him in the Unknown Dungeon.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Eh, if we're going for a generic Team Rocket member, I'd prefer a Rocket Grunt. Those berets and Zorro masks were classy.
    You and me man

    We're like this

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Captain falcon should be revealed in adventure mode. I can see it now, you fight through everything and then facing the final boss he overpowers you, knocks you to the ground and just as he's about to land the final blow you hear a faint voice in the distance.

    "show me your moves"

    The final boss looks up, confused and suddenly

    FALCON PUNCH!
    And the boss gets flung back several hundred meters and you then kick his ass with Captain Falcon.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Captain falcon should be revealed in adventure mode. I can see it now, you fight through everything and then facing the final boss he overpowers you, knocks you to the ground and just as he's about to land the final blow you hear a faint voice in the distance.

    "show me your moves"

    The final boss looks up, confused and suddenly

    FALCON PUNCH!
    And the boss gets flung back several hundred million meters and you then kick his ass with Captain Falcon.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Captain falcon should be revealed in adventure mode. I can see it now, you fight through everything and then facing the final boss he overpowers you, knocks you to the ground and just as he's about to land the final blow you hear a faint voice in the distance.

    "show me your moves"

    The final boss looks up, confused and suddenly

    FALCON PUNCH!
    And then a portion of the galaxy EXPLODES.

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Captain falcon should be revealed in adventure mode. I can see it now, you fight through everything and then facing the final boss he overpowers you, knocks you to the ground and just as he's about to land the final blow you hear a faint voice in the distance.

    "show me your moves"

    The final boss looks up, confused and suddenly

    FALCON PUNCH!
    And then a dimensional rift opens, and 3rd party characters spill out like candy out of a pinata.

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  • Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Captain falcon should be revealed in adventure mode. I can see it now, you fight through everything and then facing the final boss he overpowers you, knocks you to the ground and just as he's about to land the final blow you hear a faint voice in the distance.

    "show me your moves"

    The final boss looks up, confused and suddenly

    FALCON PUNCH!
    And then a portion of the galaxy EXPLODES, opening a dimensional rift from which 3rd party characters spill out like candy out of a pinata, followed closely by the digitised representations of the Dev team, Sakurai, Miyamoto, Reggie and all the other first party characters we thought had been missed out.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2007

    Already been mentioned. Twice. Still not buying it.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007

    Already been mentioned. Twice. Still not buying it.

    what, you expect me to read the thread for previous posts? pssshh.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007

    Already been mentioned. Twice. Still not buying it.
    This is not a sign of good psychological health

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  • gunwarriorgunwarrior Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Aw, man, well that sucks. I was looking foward to seeing the blue circles everytime he was KO'd.
    Maybe he's messin with us and we'll actually see him apearing like Captain Falcon above.

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  • DraXXXenDraXXXen Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elendil wrote: »

    Already been mentioned. Twice. Still not buying it.
    This is not a sign of good psychological health

    I'm sure the majority of us here suffer from some sort of non-diagnosed psychological illness, and imagine how Mega Man feels right now! It's Christmas AND his birthday, on which his daddy just basically said 'no, he won't be playing with any of the other cool kids. No smash for you.'


    anywho, back to our regularly scheduled mental breakdown...

    Secrets and LIES, secrets and LIES!!!!

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Didn't the same exact thing happen with Sonic?

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Yes, it did, and seriously:

    a) A place like that wouldn't have such a big story
    b) The guy apparently likes to play jokes
    c) Do you seriously think that Nintendo just totally forgot about Capcom?

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    c) Do you seriously think that Nintendo just totally forgot about Capcom?

    No, no I do not.
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  • steve-o99steve-o99 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    woah...
    I was thinking about how awesome brawl is for about an hour...

    and then I remembered it has a stage editor...

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You really think KOTAKU would break the story?
    Kotaku with most likely one guy who speaks Japanese enough to listen but probably not translate flawlessly.

    On top of that, it's Kotaku.
    Seriously.

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Actually Kotaku didn't break it.

    But that just reinforces your point.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elendil wrote: »
    Eh, if we're going for a generic Team Rocket member, I'd prefer a Rocket Grunt. Those berets and Zorro masks were classy.
    You and me man

    We're like this

    It wasn't a mask, it was the shadow of the beret. It's meant to look like a mask, but it's not.
    With their current Villain line-up consisting of Bowser and Wario (assisted by the Subspace army dudes) I can't see Mewtwo not being in, as really he's the perfect villain to represent the Pokemon series.

    Don't forget Ganondorf.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Actually Kotaku didn't break it.

    But that just reinforces your point.

    Who did, then?

    Unless it's like Joystiq or Magic-Box or, shit, IGN, I'm gonna go ahead and keep hoping for Mega Man.

    Kojima ASKED for Snake to be in the game, and I'm pretty sure Yuji Naka approached them (though I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong). I doubt Inafune is dumb enough to assume he's the only one who doesn't HAVE to ask.

    Besides, Kojima and Inafune are buddies. I imagine "Hey Snake is in Brawl!" would be followed by "You should get Mega Man in there."

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elendil wrote: »
    Eh, if we're going for a generic Team Rocket member, I'd prefer a Rocket Grunt. Those berets and Zorro masks were classy.
    You and me man

    We're like this

    You do tend to have pretty much the best opinions about things.

    And by "the best" I mean "my."

    In all seriousness though, I can't really explain it, but Golbat and Raticate being playable is a thought that for some reason just tickles me. Golbat especially.

    All never really standing still, just sort of bouncing back and forth and flapping his wings around.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Yes, it did, and seriously:

    a) A place like that wouldn't have such a big story
    b) The guy apparently likes to play jokes
    c) Do you seriously think that Nintendo just totally forgot about Capcom?

    c. yeah, I do

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    c) Do you seriously think that Nintendo just totally forgot about Capcom?

    No, no I do not.
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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Oh, and Zelda's special moves for tonight. C'mon Sakurai, don't let me down!

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  • InfestedGnomeInfestedGnome Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    c) Do you seriously think that Nintendo just totally forgot about Capcom?

    No, no I do not.
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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The fact of the matter is, Nintendo is doing these people a favor.

    This game doesn't need Snake or Sonic or Mega Man to sell a million billion copies. That shit was guaranteed from the start. If Mega Man is going to be in this game (which I doubt very seriously) it's going to be because Capcom comes to Nintendo and begs them.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    All you folks having trouble coming up with a Pokemon villain seem to have forgotten Darkrai, who should be a boss at the very least.

    Also, if this Mega Man news is true it ups the chances of Black Mage.

    I would even say it was likely.

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