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Super Smash Bros. Brawl -- "Goodness!"

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The fact of the matter is, Nintendo is doing these people a favor.

    This game doesn't need Snake or Sonic or Mega Man to sell a million billion copies. That shit was guaranteed from the start. If Mega Man is going to be in this game (which I doubt very seriously) it's going to be because Capcom comes to Nintendo and begs them.

    Same for any other 3rd party character, really. But we already know you think there won't be any more.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    You guys are also forgetting the fact that Rayquaza is most likely a boss in SSE.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Cokomon wrote: »
    You guys are also forgetting the fact that Rayquaza is most likely a boss in SSE.
    Rayquaza is definitely a boss in SSE.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Rayquaza is the kind of guy who gets beat up and learns the error of his ways. I think there will be a Rayquaza/Halberd battle.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    I didn't realize Mewtwo was a villain at all. I thought he was just a rare pokemon. What, is he bent on world domination?

    In the game's continuity, Mewtwo was a failed clone of the mythical Pokemon Mew. It's extremely violent and reclusive. It's been sealed away in the Unknown Dungeon, and defeating it in RBY is the ultimate sign of your Pokemon mastery.

    The anime takes it a little further. Mewtwo is created by Team Rocket, but being as or more intelligent than them, resents that it's being treated like a slave. Furthermore, it harbors deep hatred for humanity in general for what it sees as their abuse and exploitation of Pokemon, and for that reason wants to destroy mankind. He has a change of heart, however, after seeing how Ash's death causes Pikachu to fall to pieces, and revives him before going off to live a life of quiet solitude.

    Personally, I think either Giovanni packing Golbat, Raticate, and Nidoking or Gary packing Blastoise, Alakazam, and Arcanine would be a much more iconic Pokevillain.

    ... Ash dies?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    I didn't realize Mewtwo was a villain at all. I thought he was just a rare pokemon. What, is he bent on world domination?

    In the game's continuity, Mewtwo was a failed clone of the mythical Pokemon Mew. It's extremely violent and reclusive. It's been sealed away in the Unknown Dungeon, and defeating it in RBY is the ultimate sign of your Pokemon mastery.

    The anime takes it a little further. Mewtwo is created by Team Rocket, but being as or more intelligent than them, resents that it's being treated like a slave. Furthermore, it harbors deep hatred for humanity in general for what it sees as their abuse and exploitation of Pokemon, and for that reason wants to destroy mankind. He has a change of heart, however, after seeing how Ash's death causes Pikachu to fall to pieces, and revives him before going off to live a life of quiet solitude.

    Personally, I think either Giovanni packing Golbat, Raticate, and Nidoking or Gary packing Blastoise, Alakazam, and Arcanine would be a much more iconic Pokevillain.

    ... Ash dies?
    On multiple occasions!

    Those are always the best parts of the show.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    They were pretty happy with killing Ash.

    Wait, what?
    gunwarrior wrote: »
    Aw, man, well that sucks. I was looking foward to seeing the blue circles everytime [Mega Man] was KO'd.

    In fairness, even if he does make it in, that's extremely unlikely to happen. ;P
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Actually Kotaku didn't break it.

    But that just reinforces your point.

    Who did, then?

    Unless it's like Joystiq or Magic-Box or, shit, IGN, I'm gonna go ahead and keep hoping for Mega Man.

    Kojima ASKED for Snake to be in the game, and I'm pretty sure Yuji Naka approached them (though I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong). I doubt Inafune is dumb enough to assume he's the only one who doesn't HAVE to ask.

    Besides, Kojima and Inafune are buddies. I imagine "Hey Snake is in Brawl!" would be followed by "You should get Mega Man in there."

    It was on Capcom's "Top Secret" Bionic Commando podcast they have every now and then.

    (And for some reason, Go Nintendo seems to get all the credit)

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  • freelancepolicefreelancepolice Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Is it too niave to wish for DLC with this? It certainly seems to be pushing boundaries that other wii titles won't touch so perhaps we could expect DLC...

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't advise getting your hopes up.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The fact of the matter is, Nintendo is doing these people a favor.

    This game doesn't need Snake or Sonic or Mega Man to sell a million billion copies. That shit was guaranteed from the start. If Mega Man is going to be in this game (which I doubt very seriously) it's going to be because Capcom comes to Nintendo and begs them.

    Come on, you think the new characters don't have anything to do with the sales of a Smash sequel? The third party characters they're adding are far higher profile than any of the first party newcomers. Brawl is a guaranteed purchase regardless to nerds like us, but for people who need convincing the presence of someone like Sonic or Mega Man could definitely sell the game when all the Nintendo characters they like were already in Melee. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement and Nintendo would be crazy not to seek the rights for a popular character because they don't "need it."

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    The fact of the matter is, Nintendo is doing these people a favor.

    This game doesn't need Snake or Sonic or Mega Man to sell a million billion copies. That shit was guaranteed from the start. If Mega Man is going to be in this game (which I doubt very seriously) it's going to be because Capcom comes to Nintendo and begs them.

    Come on, you think the new characters don't have anything to do with the sales of a Smash sequel? The third party characters they're adding are far higher profile than any of the first party newcomers. Brawl is a guaranteed purchase regardless to nerds like us, but for people who need convincing the presence of someone like Sonic or Mega Man could definitely sell the game when all the Nintendo characters they like were already in Melee. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement and Nintendo would be crazy not to seek the rights for a popular character because they don't "need it."

    Mario and Sonic together was a guaranteed gold mine, and how long did it take for Nintendo to put them together after Sega went third party? Five years?

    It seems to me Nintendo does this sort of thing very reluctantly. And believe me, I would love nothing more than to be wrong. I'm just not going to get my hopes up. But I've already said this.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Henroid wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    I didn't realize Mewtwo was a villain at all. I thought he was just a rare pokemon. What, is he bent on world domination?

    In the game's continuity, Mewtwo was a failed clone of the mythical Pokemon Mew. It's extremely violent and reclusive. It's been sealed away in the Unknown Dungeon, and defeating it in RBY is the ultimate sign of your Pokemon mastery.

    The anime takes it a little further. Mewtwo is created by Team Rocket, but being as or more intelligent than them, resents that it's being treated like a slave. Furthermore, it harbors deep hatred for humanity in general for what it sees as their abuse and exploitation of Pokemon, and for that reason wants to destroy mankind. He has a change of heart, however, after seeing how Ash's death causes Pikachu to fall to pieces, and revives him before going off to live a life of quiet solitude.

    Personally, I think either Giovanni packing Golbat, Raticate, and Nidoking or Gary packing Blastoise, Alakazam, and Arcanine would be a much more iconic Pokevillain.

    ... Ash dies?
    At least twice that I know of. In one episode, a Gengar dropped a chandelier on him as a prank, and Ash's ghost had fun with all the Ghost Pokemon hanging out in Lavender Town. He goes back into his body at the end of the episode.

    In the first movie, Pikachu somehow ends up in the crossfire of Mew and Mewtwo's energy blasts, and Ash jumps out to take the shot, getting turned to stone. Pikachu freaks the fuck out and tries to electrocute him back to life, and all the Pokemon watching start crying, their tears restoring him for no good reason whatsoever.

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  • AydrAydr Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I seem to recall there being a Japan-only episode in which ash both drowns and gets blown up by dynamite at the same time only to be saved somehow by a Dragonair.

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  • Dareth RamDareth Ram regular
    edited December 2007
    I wish Ash would die forever, and the show would be canceled.

    Fucking anime. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, keep the anime it out of Smash.

    Pokemon is an awesome game series, and i think we should stick to that.

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    They were pretty happy with killing Ash.

    Wait, what?
    Elendil wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    ... Ash dies?
    On multiple occasions!

    Those are always the best parts of the show.



    Quotecombo!!!

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    I wish Ash would die forever, and the show would be canceled.

    Fucking anime. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, keep the anime it out of Smash.

    Pokemon is an awesome game series, and i think we should stick to that.

    We have no appointment but we've been having some trouble
    So prescribe us some ointment on the double
    To protect us from all that chafing and itching
    It might finally stop all of Jessie's... "complaining"
    To irradicate the evils of athlete's feet
    Maybe I can get rid of my prickly heat
    Jessie
    James
    Team Rocket's been scratching at the speed of light
    So give us some salve or we'll never sleep tonight
    Meowth that's right

    The anime is awesome.

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It might finally stop all of Jessie's... "complaining"
    D=
    :winky:

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    I wish Ash would die forever, and the show would be canceled.

    Fucking anime. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, keep the anime it out of Smash.

    Pokemon is an awesome game series, and i think we should stick to that.

    We have no appointment but we've been having some trouble
    So prescribe us some ointment on the double
    To protect us from all that chafing and itching
    It might finally stop all of Jessie's... "complaining"
    To irradicate the evils of athlete's feet
    Maybe I can get rid of my prickly heat
    Jessie
    James
    Team Rocket's been scratching at the speed of light
    So give us some salve or we'll never sleep tonight
    Meowth that's right

    The anime is awesome.

    :|

    In all seriousness if they bring in a Pokemon villain I hope its Mewtwo, all the new ones are.....odd

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I am still holding out hope for Ridley. And not just as an SSE boss, but a playable character.

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  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    So, Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Anyone think amazing updates this week?

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  • 0blique0blique Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think so, from what I hear, Christmas isn't as big a deal over there as it is here.

    We shall soon see, though.

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  • Baka_ShadeBaka_Shade Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Just spent the last hour intermittently and rather confusedly reloading the page until I realized that the last time I checked an update right when it was posted, I was in a different time zone.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    We're minutes away from confirming... the Grodus assist trophy!

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Late update?

    Or am I not refreshing fast enough?

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  • FlavabeanFlavabean Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    warios costumes...really

    edit: I disapprove of Wario and what he does with his life.

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  • DarkstrykeDarkstryke Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Something to do with Wario...

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    0blique wrote: »
    I think so, from what I hear, Christmas isn't as big a deal over there as it is here.

    We shall soon see, though.



    Who did you hear that from ?

    Because it's not true.

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  • Baka_ShadeBaka_Shade Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Not that late yet.

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  • DarkstrykeDarkstryke Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It's up on the German site before the english ones, so I normally check there first and mash refresh on the english one later.

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  • 0blique0blique Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Somewhere back in this thread, or in the last one. If I find the post, I'll dig it up.

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Taste defeat!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    redfield85 wrote: »
    So, Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Anyone think amazing updates this week?

    I'm certainly hoping. Although my birthday is this week, and we all know how Sakurai loves to dissappoint when they come up.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    There Classic Wario is all of his alts.


    Please quit bitching about it.

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  • DarkstrykeDarkstryke Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    At least Wario's regular outfit is still there.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't see it still

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Alternate costume's only available to Wario?

    Phooey.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    This is HUGE. We finally have confirmation that characters not only get color swaps, but costume changes as well. This opens the door for tons of things -- Mario and Dr. Mario, Lucas and Ness, Ike and Roy, Mega Man and X, Zelda and OOT Zelda, Young Link and WW Link...

    Edit: The UK update says Wario is "Special." That doesn't rule out others having costumes, but it does limit it.

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  • Baka_ShadeBaka_Shade Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    So alternate costumes that are more than prettied-up pallet swaps ARE possible. Shame that wasn't more widely used.

    I too am happy they haven't completely denied original Wario in favor of WarioWare.

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  • 0blique0blique Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Ok, it was this post (#55)
    Food wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    Kor wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    ROFISH wrote: »
    You know, I first thought that the arwing at the very end of the clip was being attacked by Ridley due to the wings. A closer look said no. :(

    I understand that you might not know all the different Pokémon, but Ridley is not even close to being green.

    I think he's referring to the dogfight with the halberd?

    If it is so, then what I posted might seem a little bit stupid.

    I wonder if they're gonna do something chrismas-y for monday. Do they celebrate christmas or anything like it in Japan?

    Yes, if Shenmue and Segata Sanshiro are any indication.

    Those are accurate representations of Japanese culture, right?

    Very few people actually celebrate Christmas (just the Christians, of course), but a lot of places put up decorations and otherwise "get into the spirit" during the Christmas season. They just think it's fun, I guess, and for stores it's good marketing.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Athenor wrote: »
    This is HUGE. We finally have confirmation that characters not only get color swaps, but costume changes as well. This opens the door for tons of things -- Mario and Dr. Mario, Lucas and Ness, Ike and Roy, Mega Man and X, Zelda and OOT Zelda, Young Link and WW Link...



    Only Wario has this option.

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  • QorzmQorzm Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Athenor wrote: »
    This is HUGE. We finally have confirmation that characters not only get color swaps, but costume changes as well. This opens the door for tons of things -- Mario and Dr. Mario, Lucas and Ness, Ike and Roy, Mega Man and X, Zelda and OOT Zelda, Young Link and WW Link...

    Edit: The UK update says Wario is "Special." That doesn't rule out others having costumes, but it does limit it.
    Not huge, but worth mentioning.

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