Armored Core 4/For Answer - OUT NOW

Dartboy

It had the Samurai dual-blade arms, so you could do that. Me? I took Zinaida out with dual rifles, and just boosted backwards around the whole arena constantly firing at her. Ended with like 300AP and 4 shots left, but it worked.

MeepZero

Any word on weather or not co-op supports split screen play?

Arvo

MeepZero wrote: »

Any word on weather or not co-op supports split screen play?

AC has always sucked ass split screen.

Edit: That is in no way saying that I thought multi player sucked. I just always hated dealing with split.

ArchArbiter

I'll be getting the PS3 version. My handle is SpecArch if anyone wants to add me.

Forever Zefiro

So yeah guys, it's out now. Anyone pick it up yet? I'm about to throw it in for the first time now and see what the co-op is like.

Hope it's good.

Darmak

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

So yeah guys, it's out now. Anyone pick it up yet? I'm about to throw it in for the first time now and see what the co-op is like.

Hope it's good.

I don't have it yet, I'll try and pick up a copy tomorrow along with Dragon Quest IV and some non-related items. I'm really excited (not just about this, but still!)

Dixon

I tried to get it today but they didn't have it. It sucked, I bought crysis thought only to find that my pc is buggered....

Forever Zefiro

So, apparently you can't fucking do single system co-op. It says "co-op 2" in green on the back, indicating there is non-Live co-op. They also have "co-op 2" in orange for Live.

But then in the book, it says split-screen can only do versus, no co-op.

Fucking annoying.

Dartboy

I shall play this in a few minutes.

ArchArbiter

None of the stores around me had it. What a bummer.

Tiemler

I'll be on tonight. Friend me for co-op.

arcath

fuck gamestop

I preordered. Paid in full. But they gave my preorder to someone else because they only got one copy in. And they gave it to someone who didnt preorder.

fuck gamestop.

HadjiQuest

arcath wrote: »

fuck gamestop

I preordered. Paid in full. But they gave my preorder to someone else because they only got one copy in. And they gave it to someone who didnt preorder.

fuck gamestop.

.....wow.....

I think they can get in trouble with corporate for doing that. You should call and complain.

Spruchy

Got it so much fun, shoot me a friend request spruchy86

ArchArbiter

arcath wrote: »

fuck gamestop

I preordered. Paid in full. But they gave my preorder to someone else because they only got one copy in. And they gave it to someone who didnt preorder.

fuck gamestop.

Damn, dude. I'd be livid.

Forever Zefiro

arcath wrote: »

fuck gamestop

I preordered. Paid in full. But they gave my preorder to someone else because they only got one copy in. And they gave it to someone who didnt preorder.

fuck gamestop.

Yeah man, that's pretty fucked up. What did you say? I'm pissed off for you, what store is it?

arcath

Store was in Biloxi, MS.

But I got my money back, when they wanted to give me store credit instead.

So I am going to best buy tomorrow in the hopes I can find it.

Morkath

Got the 360 version, pretty good so far, missions are alittle longer than the AC4 ones, but not by much.

Stigro for worst boss fight EVER.

No Great Name

Build a giant robot and go wreck up the store.

Tiemler

I'm hearing a lot of "don't take independent faction" on the interwebs. Apparently, when you go the indy merc route, you start with a shitty generator and can't buy parts for ages.

The other factions are okay. Personally, I took the European one because of the Tellus parts and laser weaponry, which is always nice to have for S-ranking missions.

The controls are more customizable this time around, which is a blessing. I am finally able to move unused buttons like the pointless view reset to the D-pad. And the weapons can be set to jettison automatically when empty, which is awesome. The only problem I have with the controls this time around is that some commands are automatically set based your button assignments. So after I got the main controls set up exactly the way I wanted them, I found myself with impossible commands for manually dropping weapons and using Assault Armor. The weapon drop command wanted Left & Right on the D-Pad... at the same time. o_O

Mantra

Is it as hard as the last one?

I seriously could not beat that game.

MeepZero

How is the story so far? I know AC is typically known for their abysmal storytelling, but does this one at least make sense compared to AC4?

Arvo

Tiemler wrote: »

I'm hearing a lot of "don't take independent faction" on the interwebs. Apparently, when you go the indy merc route, you start with a shitty generator and can't buy parts for ages.

Shit. Mabe I should start over. I only made it a few missions in. Though I spent so much time in the garage changing color and whatnot I really don't want to do it again. But then again, I'm good enough to handle a cheap mech for a little bit.

I'm kinda glad that the flying bits are actually just a giant ass rocket on your back rather than the mech transforming into a jet. I didn't really want that.

Arvo

MeepZero wrote: »

How is the story so far? I know AC is typically known for their abysmal storytelling, but does this one at least make sense compared to AC4?

Corporations fight......

the end.

Tiemler

Arvo wrote: »

Tiemler wrote: »

I'm hearing a lot of "don't take independent faction" on the interwebs. Apparently, when you go the indy merc route, you start with a shitty generator and can't buy parts for ages.

Shit. Mabe I should start over. I only made it a few missions in. Though I spent so much time in the garage changing color and whatnot I really don't want to do it again. But then again, I'm good enough to handle a cheap mech for a little bit.

Sounds like you're handling it. May as well keep going as long as it stays manageable. From what I hear, the difficulty spike hits at around mission 9.

Just wanted to give people a heads-up, since it could really adversely affect someone's first impressions of the game if they try the most punishingly difficult path.

IceBurner

Tiemler wrote: »

Arvo wrote: »

Mainly cause of what Hunter said. Its a very steep learning curve. Its like someone thats never played an RPG try FF Tactics.

But man, no game has ever given me as much of a rush as a high ranking arena fight.

The best thing about the tough arena fights in AC4 is, they're difficult for the right reasons. If they're cheating, it's not obvious to me the way it was in previous titles, where Ten Ton would float around in his absurdly overweight airborne tank and Etzam Nar could fire an energy machinegun nonstop which would drain any player-designed AC's generator in about a second.

I'm not even gonna speak of Nineball.

???: Target verified, commencing hostilities.

Arvo

Tiemler wrote: »

Arvo wrote: »

Tiemler wrote: »

I'm hearing a lot of "don't take independent faction" on the interwebs. Apparently, when you go the indy merc route, you start with a shitty generator and can't buy parts for ages.

Shit. Mabe I should start over. I only made it a few missions in. Though I spent so much time in the garage changing color and whatnot I really don't want to do it again. But then again, I'm good enough to handle a cheap mech for a little bit.

Sounds like you're handling it. May as well keep going as long as it stays manageable. From what I hear, the difficulty spike hits at around mission 9.

Just wanted to give people a heads-up, since it could really adversely affect someone's first impressions of the game if they try the most punishingly difficult path.

Well, lord knows I didn't buy AC cause I thought it'd be easy.

What are the benafits of going merc then? I assumed it would be that I can buy all the parts, where as a company AC won't be able to get some of the other companies. Is that right?

Dartboy

Hmm. Speaking of factions and stuff, when I started I picked GA and I've been noticing that while I usually have a GA mission to do, there's one or two from other companies. I've been doing Omer missions, and after a while it unlocked a set of Omer parts for me to buy. So I'm figuring that you've got some invisible Faction Friendliness meters, and when that bumps up to a certain level from doing mission for them it'll give you associated parts.

Also:

Arvo wrote: »

I'm kinda glad that the flying bits are actually just a giant ass rocket on your back rather than the mech transforming into a jet. I didn't really want that.

This statement is bad and you should feel bad for saying it.

Arvo

That was sarcasm before. I guess it was hard to tell.

arcath

Back from my "Fuck Gamestop" post, I managed to find a copy today.

Twin gatling guns = win.

Morkath

arcath wrote: »

Back from my "Fuck Gamestop" post, I managed to find a copy today.

Twin gatling guns = win.

Hate the fact that I can't put shoulder equipment on my mech when im using the second tier gatling guns. =/

ArchArbiter

I got it! Popping it in now. What are the differences like? How does it feel compared to 4?

No Great Name

I haven't played since 2, I just bought this. I'm gunna go get up to speed. Looking forward to some games with you guys.

arcath

I have the hardest time in 4 regarding difficulty.

I don't know if it is the new control scheme, but I feel a lot more confident playing this. It just seems easier to me.

Not baby easy, but the learning curve seems to have been lowered a bit.

Darmak

Picked it up earlier today but haven't had a chance to play with it. Hope to do so when I get off work later.

ArchArbiter

Anyone have any tips for stabilizing a lightweight, usually airborne agile mech? I'm not quite sure I know what I'm doing.

No Great Name

I have no idea what the stabilizer stuff means either.

Dartboy

Stabilizers are mainly used to balance out the weight on your AC, in the event that you do something like mount a heavy cannon on one shoulder and nothing on the other. Having your AC off balance means you'll have more inertia in that direction. If your weight's forward you'll have a harder time stopping when boosting forward, and so on. The graph on the Stabilizer setup is pretty straightforward, it shows the +- value for your left/right leaning, and for front/back. The diamond shape shows how much weight you've got in each direction. What this means is that if you've got a heavy right cannon, and balance it out with stabilizers on your left, the left/right value will be 0, but to compensate you'll now have extra weight on your left side. If you jettison your cannon mid-mission, you'll suddenly find your AC left-heavy.

The other (arguably more important) thing that stabilizers do is make your AC look totally awesome. I mean, seriously. Badass fins and spikes and shit that you can add wherever you want.

ArchArbiter

Dartboy wrote: »

Stabilizers are mainly used to balance out the weight on your AC, in the event that you do something like mount a heavy cannon on one shoulder and nothing on the other. Having your AC off balance means you'll have more inertia in that direction. If your weight's forward you'll have a harder time stopping when boosting forward, and so on. The graph on the Stabilizer setup is pretty straightforward, it shows the +- value for your left/right leaning, and for front/back. The diamond shape shows how much weight you've got in each direction. What this means is that if you've got a heavy right cannon, and balance it out with stabilizers on your left, the left/right value will be 0, but to compensate you'll now have extra weight on your left side. If you jettison your cannon mid-mission, you'll suddenly find your AC left-heavy.

The other (arguably more important) thing that stabilizers do is make your AC look totally awesome. I mean, seriously. Badass fins and spikes and shit that you can add wherever you want.

Would it be counterproductive to balance a speed mech forward? Or should you always aim for a center of balance?

And yeah, gundam crests and back blades and shit. Awesome.

Viscountalpha

Dartboy wrote: »

Stabilizers are mainly used to balance out the weight on your AC, in the event that you do something like mount a heavy cannon on one shoulder and nothing on the other. Having your AC off balance means you'll have more inertia in that direction. If your weight's forward you'll have a harder time stopping when boosting forward, and so on. The graph on the Stabilizer setup is pretty straightforward, it shows the +- value for your left/right leaning, and for front/back. The diamond shape shows how much weight you've got in each direction. What this means is that if you've got a heavy right cannon, and balance it out with stabilizers on your left, the left/right value will be 0, but to compensate you'll now have extra weight on your left side. If you jettison your cannon mid-mission, you'll suddenly find your AC left-heavy.

The other (arguably more important) thing that stabilizers do is make your AC look totally awesome. I mean, seriously. Badass fins and spikes and shit that you can add wherever you want.

Stop it. Its cruel to hear that they finally made an AC game with such features. I need this now. I need it so hard.