Ultimate DC: Hmmmm...Yeaaahhhh....Ok...
Owenashi
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Typically, what I bring from Newsarama's forums is news and leaked potential spoilers. Today however, I bring amusement (in one sense of the word or the other) in the form of a pet-project of their DC-forum called Ultimate DC, complete with actual drawn covers for their 'issues'. For anyone interested, links to previous 'issues' can be found here...
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=138909
...and their January 'solicitations' can be found here.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=140870
And some covers here, spoiler-boxed for your visual protection..
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=138909
...and their January 'solicitations' can be found here.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=140870
And some covers here, spoiler-boxed for your visual protection..
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It's one of the reasons I put up this thread though. I've read a lot of posts here and in SE++'s comic-thread about how so-and-so in Marvel/DC doesn't know what the hell he/she is doing when it comes to the character they're working on (Spider-Man's OMD storyline being a prime and recent example) In the end, professionals are us plus cash from a big comic-book company. I know there's some here who have talent (if not experience) for coming up with stuff like this.
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This stuff, meanwhile, is worse than Tangent.
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You do know that most professional comic book writers and artists are fans? They don't get into comics by disliking them, y'know.
Because of course, All-Star Superman is neither imaginative nor good.
I don't know whose idea it was to get you guys full frontal lobotomies for Christmas, but it sure ain't my idea of a festive gift.
Actually, I should've phrased better; I've only heard varying things second hand, most bad, save for All-Star Batman & Robin, which has developed its own level of infamy. But I shouldn't base the others on that, though when I cited "less imaginative," I was mainly aiming it at the lack of design diversity I've seen.
Or are there instances where the All-Stars look different from their original counterparts?
On a related note, does All-Star fall into any of the 52?
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All Star Batman and All Star Superman are in entirely different universes.
...seriously? O_o
So are either part of the 52?
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I mean hell, it only won two Eisners! Only two!
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No.
They are both totally different earths though, there's no way you could possibly reconcile Superman in All-Star Batman with the Superman in All-Star Superman.
Anally.
All Star Superman is Grant Morrison writing Silver-Age style Superman stories
All Star Batman is Frank Miller being Frank Miller.
It's impossible for them to be compatible
also, those drawings aren't bad, but they are far from comic quality...
That art is... pretty bad.
they're not that b.......
okay, they're shit. The green lantern one is the only one that even closely resembles print quality comic material, and even then it's not good enough for a cover shot. Maybe a bottom of page, mid comic panel...at best
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I'm glad I wasn't around for that.
And yeah, an Ultimate spinoff idea is essentially just an Elseworlds idea that requires less imagination than usual.
Furthermore, the Ultimate series' strength isn't something that can be captured in a cover and a first issue. Just look at Ultimate Spider-Man #1. It was basically just the origin all over again, only with hippie Ben. That alone is not too impressive.
Rather, Ultimate Marvel has mostly been a success because it allows good writers a vehicle through which they can write about the best characters Marvel has without the constraints that hamper writing for the 616 universe.
It's not the concepts, but rather the freedom and the talent. Unfortunately, this exercise is all about concept, and that completely misses the point.
And just look at Ultimates and Ultimates 2. Those are wildly different takes on the characters and they are just as popular as USM.
Don't know how they'd do the Ultimates' appearance in the story, though. I guess they could have had a heavily modified JLA/JSA
How could Batman be any more badass?
Other than perhaps cursing even more.
are you fucking serious?
everything in that article was the worst.
now I am curious
Thats a pretty ballsy statement, you a big fan of falling flat on your ass?
But if you go too different, then you wind up with things like Ultimate Doctor Doom, and you have to fix it later on with bullshit like 'he's wearing boots over his goat legs,' or some stupid crap like that.
That said, the Teen Titans one actually sounds like it'd be a great read.
By undoing the small moments of crap that happen once in a while (evil batgirl, dead spoiler, jason todd reborn, joker's constantly shifting origin story).
Ultimate Batman is something I wouldn't mind seeing, but the real question is how could they make it more awesome than DCAU Batman?
On second thought, I'd be happier if they put work toward a Batman Beyond series.
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Actually, the "The Batman" cartoon seems pretty much what I'd expect of an Ultimate-style reboot of Batman.
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Wildly different is a bit of a stretch, and I'd say that the changes to the Avengers found in the Ultimates has just as much to do with wanting to re-imagine some of the characters as it does with the fact that the first issue of the Avengers is hardly as memorable or as important as the Spider-Man origin story. You literally cannot do a scene for scene remake of the Avengers origin and not expect disappointing results because the origin itself is a contrived mess, and best left forgotten.
We don't do that here