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[PS3 Thread] Haze or UT3?

Black IceBlack Ice Charlotte, NCRegistered User regular
edited December 2007 in Games and Technology
There doesn't seem to be a lot of attention for the PS3 around G&T, understandably. Here's a place for some people to talk about it.. and hopefully answer the following question.

It seems that UT3 flopped. Its mod support is disappointing, as the PA homepage tells, and I understand there aren't too many players on the PS3 version of this game. With shooters like COD4 out, is it fair to even play UT3 after being spoiled by it?

Which brings me to this question: I have no 360, only a PS3. What's the better plan, buying UT3 or waiting for Haze? Haze seems to have a lot more hype than UT3, and I don't want to buy a $60 game that no one is playing in a month - or a game that is inferior to one I already have (COD4).

Plus, Haze is made by the Timesplitters team, isn't it? I have high expectations for it. There's even Battlefield: Bad Company coming out - but that's not a PS3 exclusive, so I won't be comparing it to these other two games.

Also, here's a post from a thread I made around September. Has a lot of pictures and the [at the time] upcoming releases - might be interesting to see how these once-anticipated titles have held up with the enormous number of AAA games released on every console lately.
Black Ice wrote: »
Now that Lair, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword are released, what is on your horizon?

This is the list I can come up with, in no order:
  • Folklore (Oct 9, 2007)
  • Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (Oct 23, 2007)
  • Unreal Tournament III* (Nov 19, 2007)
  • Haze (Q4 2007)
  • Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Q4 2007)
  • LittleBigPlanet (Q1 2008)
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 (Q1 2008)
  • SOCOM: Confrontation (TBA 2008)
  • Gran Turismo 5 (TBA 2008)
  • Killzone 2 (TBA 2008)
  • Final Fantasy XIII (TBA)
And that, unfortunately, is all of the non-360 exclusives I can come up with. :x I'm sure there are more that I can't recall.

Other than those exclusives, there's a bunch of games like Assassin's Creed, Army of Two, Half-Life 2: The Orange Box, Kane & Lynch, and my highly anticipated favorite, Enemy Territories: Quake Wars, etc. Unfortunately, I am still waiting for a Rainbow Six Vegas patch for the PS3. Poor ports of Xbox 360 games are causing me to lose faith in the system :(

Apparently, port problems and delays in games are spawning from programming for the cell processor. I understand that a PC game can easily be ported to the Xbox 360, whereas the PS3 must be almost completely redone to work with the cell processor.

Here are some pictures of the exclusives (H-Scroll warning):
Folklore:
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Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction:
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Unreal Tournament III:
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Haze:
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Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
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LittleBigPlanet:
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Metal Gear Solid 4:
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SOCOM: Confrontation:
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Gran Turismo 5:
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Killzone 2:
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Final Fantasy XIII:
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*Unreal Tournament III is also coming out on the PC. The PS3 version will have mouse and keyboard support, and PS3 users can play mods.

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't have a PS3, but my father-in-law plays UT3 on a tricked out PC. The graphics are nice, but it's pretty much the same game as before. Purists will tell you that there are plenty of changes to the UT formula, but IMO they aren't that big to warrant spending 60 bucks on. I would say wait for Haze, especially if it's done by the Timesplitters guys.

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  • corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I am surprised Haze doesn't have a bit more hype. I mean it is from Free Radical. I would say wait for that. The reviews on UT3 have been mixed and it seems as though the community is pretty small right now. PS3 users seem to to be playing CoD4 or Warhawk.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It seems that UT3 flopped. Its mod support is disappointing, as the PA homepage tells, and I understand there aren't too many players on the PS3 version of this game. With shooters like COD4 out, is it fair to even play UT3 after being spoiled by it?

    It flopped on the PC. Looking through the server lists on the PS3 (Gamefly FTW), it has quite a nice selection of servers, and a nice amount of people playing. I would call it struggling on the PC side, but the PS3 side of things seems to be doing pretty well.

    As for the mod support/front page, I would call BS just like I did when Tycho began his rants. In the first place, it's a couple weeks after release. What game has had real mods a couple weeks later. Then there's complaints about getting it over. I'm not even touching his dumb "need a hacked iPod to move files to the PS3" thing. You can pick up a 10 dollar USB thumb drive from pretty much any major electronics retailer to take care of that, and all versions of the PS3 have the ability to read those. No, it's not as elegant as being able to pull it straight off your PC via ethernet/home network, but it's not the epic task that Tycho made it out to be, not even by a longshot. To be honest, he was being a big ole douche about the whole thing, first by not fixing his post last week about being able to use a USB drive, and then by his over reactive goofyness from his last news post.

    As for the editor? Again, it's a couple weeks. Going by what Epic says, you can develop your maps just fine right now, and when the feature is available soon, it's basically a recompile for it to work on the PS3. I'm not buying UT3, but personally it's because they stripped out the modes I love, but I would hardly call it a failure on the platform at all.
    corin7 wrote: »
    I am surprised Haze doesn't have a bit more hype. I mean it is from Free Radical. I would say wait for that. The reviews on UT3 have been mixed and it seems as though the community is pretty small right now. PS3 users seem to to be playing CoD4 or Warhawk.

    With the exception of the "OMGNOLOADS" thing, they haven't really done much to make Haze look like much more than a run of the mill FPS.

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Yeah after I read Tycho's post, I realized he was bitching about having to use a thumb drive.

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  • corin7corin7 San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Aoi wrote: »
    corin7 wrote: »
    I am surprised Haze doesn't have a bit more hype. I mean it is from Free Radical. I would say wait for that. The reviews on UT3 have been mixed and it seems as though the community is pretty small right now. PS3 users seem to to be playing CoD4 or Warhawk.

    With the exception of the "OMGNOLOADS" thing, they haven't really done much to make Haze look like much more than a run of the mill FPS.


    I don't know I just hit gametrailers and watched a video of it because I realized I didn't know much about it other than it was the goldeneye guys. I was pretty impressed, there is a lot of awesome there. It is coming out in a couple of weeks and it looks like this might be another AAA PS3 game that goes completely unnoticed.

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  • DebaserZbsDebaserZbs Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I personally like UT3 on PS3. I just think the community for it has to get larger. It's still too early to tell whether it'll sink or swim.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    The community is very different from the PC community in the past. You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a low grav - insta gib server for UT 2004, and there are none to be found on UT 3 for the PS3. This will hopefully change with time. The game hasn't changed drasticaly from 2004: the single player is worthless and the multiplayer has more holy shit moments then a weeks worth of certain other console multiplayer shooters. It's a lot of fun, but the speed of it will come as a shock to anyone who hasn't played it before.

    Also kudos to sony for letting me use a mouse and keyboard to play.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    corin7 wrote: »
    Aoi wrote: »
    corin7 wrote: »
    I am surprised Haze doesn't have a bit more hype. I mean it is from Free Radical. I would say wait for that. The reviews on UT3 have been mixed and it seems as though the community is pretty small right now. PS3 users seem to to be playing CoD4 or Warhawk.

    With the exception of the "OMGNOLOADS" thing, they haven't really done much to make Haze look like much more than a run of the mill FPS.


    I don't know I just hit gametrailers and watched a video of it because I realized I didn't know much about it other than it was the goldeneye guys. I was pretty impressed, there is a lot of awesome there. It is coming out in a couple of weeks and it looks like this might be another AAA PS3 game that goes completely unnoticed.


    Hmm, I'll have to go take a look then. I just saw some interviews with the developer with lots of gameplay footage, and between snarky comments, he just seemed to want to push OMGNOMENUS over and over. Didn't leave me hugely impressed, but I'll be more than happy to give it another look :)

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Add me as another one that really likes UT3 on the PS3 ... it's the first time I've played a UT on a console and it FEELS like how a UT should feel.

    While Unreal Championship 2 was good in it's own way, as a former PC player I felt it lost it's PC feel. UT3 on the other hand feels very much like how I remember my beloved UT99 felt ... that is to say awesome.

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  • naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    So, I just cleaned up the arena in Ratchet and Clank: Future. I hop into my ship, and the PS3 crashes. All thats left is a black screen with the following commands:
    Get: 02601330
    Put: 02120c14
    Ref: ffffffff
    
    Pre: d0000000
    Post: d0000000
    

    Any clue what this might be about? I know I'm gonna have to restart the PS3, but i'm sort of wondering what I did to make the PS3 throw addresses at me.

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  • Epyon9283Epyon9283 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I got UT3 on ps3 because I don't have PC capable of running it. Kind of sucks that they took out so many game modes and classic maps but other than that its great. The UT experience translated well to the console.

    /me misses facing worlds

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  • balbonibalboni Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I am personally waiting for Haze - I just hope that the multiplayer options are all there (loved being able to customize in Timesplitters). If it has a great single player to boot, all the better.

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  • Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    If any game sells me a PS3, it will be Haze.

    I'm really hoping that or Timesplitters 4 will bring back the bot customization we saw in Perfect Dark...nothing like a sim who will swear bloody revenge on you, or always get headshots. IMHO the setup for Haze makes a perfect context for these kind of options.

    Either way, instant buy. UT3 is probably awesome too, but Free Radical always sold me on their style and sense of humour.

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Well, sounds like you are doubly screwed considering the PS3 sucks. /lolsony

    Just kidding. :P

    I haven't played Haze or UT3, but based on what I have seen, I would suggest UT3 for multiplayer and Haze for single player. If you like frantic, less realistic, rocket-jumpy twitch gameplay on huge maps, UT has always delivered. Haze to me seems to have an excellent story, like Far Cry, so that, while multiplayer will definitely be there, the single player is what will shine.

    Oh, and rumor is that Haze is not going to be a PS3 exclusive title; rather, it will have a PS3 exclusive launch and later be released for 360 and PC.

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I got a PS3 for Christmas. Right now the only games I have are flOw and Unreal Tournament 3. I should have done more research because I thought I'd be able to make mods for it, but it looks like I have to buy the PC version for that.

    Tonight I bought Uncharted because I really enjoyed the demo, but I haven't opened it yet 'cause I wanted to get some opinions in here. I was having a hard time deciding between Uncharted and Resistance: Fall of man. Resistance is $40 at Best Buy this week and I've heard it's really good.
    Given the choice between those two games, any opinions on what I should go with?

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I got a PS3 for Christmas. Right now the only games I have are flOw and Unreal Tournament 3. I should have done more research because I thought I'd be able to make mods for it, but it looks like I have to buy the PC version for that.

    Tonight I bought Uncharted because I really enjoyed the demo, but I haven't opened it yet 'cause I wanted to get some opinions in here. I was having a hard time deciding between Uncharted and Resistance: Fall of man. Resistance is $40 at Best Buy this week and I've heard it's really good.
    Given the choice between those two games, any opinions on what I should go with?

    you cannot possibly regret buying uncharted. it might be wise to pick up resistance later when it drops down a bit more, but uncharted is the fucking game of the year - resistance is just a great shooter with a good online community. uncharted simply has to be played, for the graphics, the superb animation and voice acting, and the heavenly shooting mechanics

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2007
    Yeah after I read Tycho's post, I realized he was bitching about having to use a thumb drive.

    Also, apparently putting your iPod into Disk Mode is hacking it.

    (protip: that turns it into a USB drive)

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  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    First off...Uncharted? YES.

    I'm really surprised at the amount of interest over Haze. The only reason I bought Resistance is because it was the only game worth a damn when I bought my PS3. Between that and Bioshock I feel like I've turned a corner on the whole FPS genre, but all I see is a glut of the genre with very little to differentiate between them. Granted, I'm a bit biased, not really being a fan of the genre, but I didn't see much to tell the difference between Timeshift and Haze. I just remember watching videos from the PSN for these games and Black Site Area 51 and being upset that everything coming out for my PS3 was going to be a FPS.

    I'll give UT3 a rent, and I suppose I'll rent Haze as well since people actually seem to be interested in it. I've got COD4 coming in the mail to try out as well.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    i think the haze excitement comes from the pedigree of its developer (timesplitters people) and the somewhat critical, intellectual(ish) plotline - though if you ask me the analogies they're using look about as subtle as a stack of bricks. it does have some interesting looking gameplay mechanics though, so it could work.

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    UNCHARTED!

    I got resistance for christmas and it feels so old school and uninteresting to a fault. Uncharted is total next-gen (wow i sounded like a 12 year old gamespot forum dweller there didn't i?)

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  • Black IceBlack Ice Charlotte, NCRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I got a PS3 for Christmas. Right now the only games I have are flOw and Unreal Tournament 3. I should have done more research because I thought I'd be able to make mods for it, but it looks like I have to buy the PC version for that.

    Tonight I bought Uncharted because I really enjoyed the demo, but I haven't opened it yet 'cause I wanted to get some opinions in here. I was having a hard time deciding between Uncharted and Resistance: Fall of man. Resistance is $40 at Best Buy this week and I've heard it's really good.
    Given the choice between those two games, any opinions on what I should go with?

    Call of Duty 4 dwarfs Resistance in every way imaginable. It not only dwarfs it, it pushes it to the floor, kicks it in the nuts, picks it up over its head, defenestrates it from the 30th story of a sky scraper, then pisses on its remains from the window.

    From my experience, the controls on COD4 on the PS3 are tighter than on the 360 as well, and it's much quicker to get into an online game on the PS3 than on the 360. I guess what I'm saying is - choose COD4 over Resistance and keep Uncharted.

    Also, why are there low (compared to UT3) expectations for Haze's multiplayer? I can understand why the single player is getting attention, but it's from Free Radical, and I think quality multiplayer when I think Free Radical. To be totally honest, I've never played an Unreal Tournament game before, and I think I'm going to wait for Haze because I don't think I'd enjoy other FPS games after becoming accustomed to UT's fast pace.

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