Nah, I had one accident that lead to an Archangel or Power - I forget which. That was an irritance, but a Loki with high/severe damage skills in three out of four elements was fantastic.
Nah, I had one accident that lead to an Archangel or Power - I forget which. That was an irritance, but a Loki with high/severe damage skills in three out of four elements was fantastic.
Loki is actually the only fusion I've managed to get all four elements on. All the -dyne spells and electric boost.
Nah, I had one accident that lead to an Archangel or Power - I forget which. That was an irritance, but a Loki with high/severe damage skills in three out of four elements was fantastic.
I can't help hearing you sound like Frank West when you say that. Fantastic!
Speaking of depressing, I just maxed out the Sun S. Link in P3.
Did I just spend ten sundays talking to a ghost?
I kinda vaguely suspected it because of the striped shirt, which immediately made me associate him with Pharos when the girl mentioned him. But then as I saw him in person the idea subsided for a while
I'd like to see a game where the player is like a second conscience to the main character. Remember FFVIII's Laguna flashbacks? Something like that. I feel that there is a certain sense of abstraction when you have a character in the game. Not that I mind it, of course, but I'd like to see someone breaking the fourth wall thoroughly. Earthbound kinda did it by acknowledging your existence.
I'm mentioning this in this thread because I believe that the SMT folk are amongst the only people who can really pull it off.
Baten Kaitos did that, the player character was very much aware of the player as a guardian spirit. Contact did it too, though in contact while a secondary character, the professor, knew of your existence the player character was completely unaware of being your puppet. In both games this was used as a basis for pretty big plot twists later on.
Pretty kick ass game. Angel wasn't as tough as I hoped, but her final form looked so fuckawesome that it pretty much made up for it. I was pretty meh on DDS when I first started; everything seemed so plain compared to P3 (my first SMT game) and the lack of personality threw me off at first. The plot was decent but I missed the interaction of social links and the flexability of the fusion system. Besides, Sera was annoying (olol amnesia!).
What finally won me over was the fairytale castle dungeon. By that time I had advanced far enough on the mantra grid to branch out a bit, which made combat much more interesting, but more than that the subtle creepiness of the place just got to me. Maybe I'm just a sucker for ominious foreshadowing, but I have to say that that was probably one of the best dungeons in any RPG I've played.
Overall, I finished in just about 23 hours, with the final 7 coming from a caffiene fueled marathon run of the final dungeon that ended at 4:30 in the morning when I finally beat the damn thing and then sank into a kind of jittery sleep, fighting off the after effects of way too much coca-cola while visions of a black sun danced before my eyes. Needless to say, I had some strange dreams last night. God, I can't wait to play the second one.
DDS2 is, for a big chunk of it, one of the most depressing games I've ever played.
Everyone dies. Sometimes multiple times.
Speaking of depressing, I just maxed out the Sun S. Link in P3.
Did I just spend ten sundays talking to a ghost?
My theory is that he died just before the last meeting; he was alive before that. But I don't know; I don't get how that part really fits with the rest of the game's theme and mythology anyway. But then, I don't see the robot girl correlation either.
I'm tempted to go with that idea, too, but then again his silver hair (which I think is a sign of something being supernatural in Japanese culture?) could lend support to him being dead from the start, or dying at any point throughout the social link.
I do see how it fits into the overall theme, though. It's about him coming to terms with how short his life is compared to others, and how our impact on others may mean more than anything we personally get out of life. I'm just about to fight the 12th Shadow, so I'm not certain if there are any more twists coming, but so far time and what we do with it seems to be the predominant theme of the game for me.
Aigis is possibly a bit out of place, too, but she seems to represent some kind of point about what it means to be human. If something looks human, acts human, and thinks like a human (and given how readily the staff and pupils of Gekkoukan accept her, she's probably a very good facsimile), then why would we not call it human?
Oh, I get the meaning, I just question its feasibility in the Persona 3 universe. That is, the only "fantasy" elements are an alternate, shadowy reality where one's emotions can manifest as helpful or malevolent monsters. It's not like Dungeons and Dragons, where there are so many types of magic, dragons, elves, etc. that suspenesion of disbelief gets maintained easily. I'm just saying I don't know how ghosts work in the Personaverse.
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You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
Let's say I 100% the persona compendium before FES comes out and complete the game once (one cycle, no new game+).
I should be able to import:
- MAX Charm, Academics, and Courage.
- All items and equipment that aren't consumable items, like medicines and homonculi? (fuzzy on this)
- All KEY items.
- My entire persona compendium, meaning all persona.but at their default stats and skills.
Is that true?
If so, isn't that an exceptionally ideal situation? You basically have a 100% noiseless persona compendium. Which should make getting ideal persona with ideal skills easier, no?
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In FES can you 100% S.Links without basically having to do an absurdly strict schedule like in normal P3?
I knew it, Burnage. I knew it. Regardless, I think I kinda spoiled this one for myself a long time ago, generally speaking, so no harm done.
If you haven't got there yet, you probably won't be able to guess what's actually going to happen. I knew from the beginning that something was up, but not quite that.
I knew it, Burnage. I knew it. Regardless, I think I kinda spoiled this one for myself a long time ago, generally speaking, so no harm done.
If you haven't got there yet, you probably won't be able to guess what's actually going to happen. I knew from the beginning that something was up, but not quite that.
Then I'm in for a surprise. I've been avoiding spoilers like a plague, and it has definitely paid off.
I just had a look at Lucifer and holy hell, talk about overpowered! I can't wait until I hit the required level to fuse him. I also fucked up with my Thanatos fusion and made him with Null Light and Die for Me! but forgot to include Mudo boost into the mix. :P I'm currently at 1/1, 2009 and things have really started to heat up. Although I have to say that
Nyx will arrive at the end of January surprised me. I thought that I would have at least until somewhere in March until it was time for the final showdown.
Oh well, I guess that all good things have an end.
The ninja dog and Ken are the two characters I never, ever use. Ever.
Missing out. Shame.
I have to say that I've revised my opinion regarding Ken, he's pretty useful since having a weakness to Mudo isn't quite the ballbuster it was in Nocturne. But I really wish that he could put on something else than those goddamn shorts. FES better have some proper pants for him as optional clothing..
Koromaru is really decent as well, although do he ever
The ninja dog and Ken are the two characters I never, ever use. Ever.
Missing out. Shame.
I have to say that I've revised my opinion regarding Ken, he's pretty useful since having a weakness to Mudo isn't quite the ballbuster it was in Nocturne. But I really wish that he could put on something else than those goddamn shorts. FES better have some proper pants for him as optional clothing..
Really? I'm a fan of SMT's angels, so I've normally got the hama skills covered - right now I've got both Raphael and Uriel in my line-up, for example. Plus, Nocturne and DDS instilled a fear of mudo in me. But if he's not actually that bad, I may reconsider.
Feels a bit weird throwing a (really young) kid at demons, though.
The ninja dog and Ken are the two characters I never, ever use. Ever.
Missing out. Shame.
I have to say that I've revised my opinion regarding Ken, he's pretty useful since having a weakness to Mudo isn't quite the ballbuster it was in Nocturne. But I really wish that he could put on something else than those goddamn shorts. FES better have some proper pants for him as optional clothing..
Really? I'm a fan of SMT's angels, so I've normally got the hama skills covered - right now I've got both Raphael and Uriel in my line-up, for example. Plus, Nocturne and DDS instilled a fear of mudo in me. But if he's not actually that bad, I may reconsider.
Feels a bit weird throwing a (really young) kid at demons, though.
Hell, I've seen Ken survive a Mudoon, which would never have happened in Nocturne. He's also sporting a pretty nice selection of Zio, Hama and Dia skills which makes him a very well rounded character. It didn't exactly hurt that the majority of spears I've found have at least Charm (Medium) on them as well.
The ninja dog and Ken are the two characters I never, ever use. Ever.
Missing out. Shame.
I have to say that I've revised my opinion regarding Ken, he's pretty useful since having a weakness to Mudo isn't quite the ballbuster it was in Nocturne. But I really wish that he could put on something else than those goddamn shorts. FES better have some proper pants for him as optional clothing..
Really? I'm a fan of SMT's angels, so I've normally got the hama skills covered - right now I've got both Raphael and Uriel in my line-up, for example. Plus, Nocturne and DDS instilled a fear of mudo in me. But if he's not actually that bad, I may reconsider.
Feels a bit weird throwing a (really young) kid at demons, though.
Hell, I've seen Ken survive a Mudoon, which would never have happened in Nocturne. He's also sporting a pretty nice selection of Zio, Hama and Dia skills which makes him a very well rounded character. It didn't exactly hurt that the majority of spears I've found have at least Charm (Medium) on them as well.
Ken is very useful troughout Tziah. He also gets Mediarama, if you level him up a bit.
It feels like every character gets healing skills, though. Right now I'm mainly using Mitsuru, Aigis and Akihiko (swapping in Yukari sometimes), and all of them bar Aigis have diarama at the very least.
I think his main purpose is to be the second sane person. I swear, Ken and Akihiko are the only sane/not shallow people in the whole game. Even the main has his dumb moments.
... so did you not watch the cutscenes showing how Akihiko acts around women, or what? :P Opposite end of the spectrum from how Junpei acts, obviously, but everyone's got their quirks. Makes the characters more believable.
Given how much trauma everyone in the game goes through, they all seem pretty grounded.
Junpei is still my favourite, personality wise though. It's shame though that being the most normal guy on the team means that the world will constantly take a shit on you.
I really, really liked Junpei. He was probably my favorite, too (although Akihiko, Mitsuru, and Yukari were all also in the running). I especially love how they didn't just leave him as the comic relief, but gave him reasons for acting like he did.
Minor December stuff, regarding Junpei:
Finding out about his dad was a pretty huge moment, I thought.
I really, really liked Junpei. He was probably my favorite, too (although Akihiko, Mitsuru, and Yukari were all also in the running). I especially love how they didn't just leave him as the comic relief, but gave him reasons for acting like he did.
Minor December stuff, regarding Junpei:
Finding out about his dad was a pretty huge moment, I thought.
That one came a bit out of the blue though, considering that he never said a word about his family before. Although this is an JRPG, which means that the parents of the protagonist(s) are usually useless bags of crap or dead.
I really love Persona 3 but it didn't quite manage to get away from a few JRPG tropes in the story, unfortunatly.
I really love Persona 3 but it didn't quite manage to get away from a few JRPG tropes in the story, unfortunatly.
This is where my endless fondness for Lucifer's Call comes from.
Indeed.
"So I guess that me and my classmates will be the standard party of spunky teenagers that will team up and save the world from ending. Goddamn, can't these fucking JRPG writers come up with something more interesting than that?"
I really, really liked Junpei. He was probably my favorite, too (although Akihiko, Mitsuru, and Yukari were all also in the running). I especially love how they didn't just leave him as the comic relief, but gave him reasons for acting like he did.
Minor December stuff, regarding Junpei:
Finding out about his dad was a pretty huge moment, I thought.
That one came a bit out of the blue though, considering that he never said a word about his family before. Although this is an JRPG, which means that the parents of the protagonist(s) are usually useless bags of crap or dead.
I really love Persona 3 but it didn't quite manage to get away from a few JRPG tropes in the story, unfortunatly.
He never said a word about his family before BECAUSE of the December reveal.
It's not exactly how one opens a conversation, is it? "Hi, I'm Junpei, and my dad became an alcoholic after investing all of his money into a scam. Of course, you'll notice I talk about him in the past tense, meaning he likely drank himself to death. This is Yuka-tan."
I really, really liked Junpei. He was probably my favorite, too (although Akihiko, Mitsuru, and Yukari were all also in the running). I especially love how they didn't just leave him as the comic relief, but gave him reasons for acting like he did.
Minor December stuff, regarding Junpei:
Finding out about his dad was a pretty huge moment, I thought.
That one came a bit out of the blue though, considering that he never said a word about his family before. Although this is an JRPG, which means that the parents of the protagonist(s) are usually useless bags of crap or dead.
I really love Persona 3 but it didn't quite manage to get away from a few JRPG tropes in the story, unfortunatly.
He never said a word about his family before BECAUSE of the December reveal.
It's not exactly how one opens a conversation, is it? "Hi, I'm Junpei, and my dad became an alcoholic after investing all of his money into a scam. Of course, you'll notice I talk about him in the past tense, meaning he likely drank himself to death. This is Yuka-tan."
It's more that you'd expect him to, I don't know, talk about his mom or if he's got any siblings. But I'm sure that he's an orphan as 90% of the JRPG character usually are. :P
Talking about his mom, if she is in the picture, ends pretty much invariably with the question "what about your dad?" talking about siblings ends with "what about your parents?"
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I can't help hearing you sound like Frank West when you say that. Fantastic!
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Baten Kaitos did that, the player character was very much aware of the player as a guardian spirit. Contact did it too, though in contact while a secondary character, the professor, knew of your existence the player character was completely unaware of being your puppet. In both games this was used as a basis for pretty big plot twists later on.
What finally won me over was the fairytale castle dungeon. By that time I had advanced far enough on the mantra grid to branch out a bit, which made combat much more interesting, but more than that the subtle creepiness of the place just got to me. Maybe I'm just a sucker for ominious foreshadowing, but I have to say that that was probably one of the best dungeons in any RPG I've played.
Overall, I finished in just about 23 hours, with the final 7 coming from a caffiene fueled marathon run of the final dungeon that ended at 4:30 in the morning when I finally beat the damn thing and then sank into a kind of jittery sleep, fighting off the after effects of way too much coca-cola while visions of a black sun danced before my eyes. Needless to say, I had some strange dreams last night. God, I can't wait to play the second one.
And I remembered someone saying the word moé, and saying it wrongly. Very wrongly.
I don't see why you wouldn't think ghosts could be around.
Come on, Zen. You know that anything not in Japanese is clearly inferior.
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
Also, I just got the pun in the intro. I wouldn't click on this unless you've reached december.
Remember your death.
Remember you're death.
This a very dangerous spoiler there, though I cannot exactly verify it.
Yukiko's Persona is Konohanasakuya-hime
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Let's say I 100% the persona compendium before FES comes out and complete the game once (one cycle, no new game+).
I should be able to import:
- MAX Charm, Academics, and Courage.
- All items and equipment that aren't consumable items, like medicines and homonculi? (fuzzy on this)
- All KEY items.
- My entire persona compendium, meaning all persona.but at their default stats and skills.
Is that true?
If so, isn't that an exceptionally ideal situation? You basically have a 100% noiseless persona compendium. Which should make getting ideal persona with ideal skills easier, no?
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
If you haven't got there yet, you probably won't be able to guess what's actually going to happen. I knew from the beginning that something was up, but not quite that.
Then I'm in for a surprise. I've been avoiding spoilers like a plague, and it has definitely paid off.
Missing out. Shame.
Koromaru is really decent as well, although do he ever
Really? I'm a fan of SMT's angels, so I've normally got the hama skills covered - right now I've got both Raphael and Uriel in my line-up, for example. Plus, Nocturne and DDS instilled a fear of mudo in me. But if he's not actually that bad, I may reconsider.
Feels a bit weird throwing a (really young) kid at demons, though.
Ken is very useful troughout Tziah. He also gets Mediarama, if you level him up a bit.
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
Given how much trauma everyone in the game goes through, they all seem pretty grounded.
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
Minor December stuff, regarding Junpei:
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
I really love Persona 3 but it didn't quite manage to get away from a few JRPG tropes in the story, unfortunatly.
"So I guess that me and my classmates will be the standard party of spunky teenagers that will team up and save the world from ending. Goddamn, can't these fucking JRPG writers come up with something more interesting than that?"
*The Conception occurs*
"Well, I can't say I expected that one....."
It's not exactly how one opens a conversation, is it? "Hi, I'm Junpei, and my dad became an alcoholic after investing all of his money into a scam. Of course, you'll notice I talk about him in the past tense, meaning he likely drank himself to death. This is Yuka-tan."
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
3DS: 1607-3034-6970