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An interesting gap in the rules.
Captain Vash
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It was brought to my attention recently, through an infraction that shan't be the topic of discussion here, that no where in the rules does it say "don't talk about breaking the law"
We have the rule about "warez and romz and the like" but we do not have a rule about breaking the law except in H&A where we only have a rule that talks about not asking for help in breaking the law.
Should the Penny-Arcade forums have a rule that says "Do not talk about breaking the law, planning to break the law, or ways in which you have broken the law" this might be a replacement rule for the warez issue which would fall under such a rule.
That's my idea for the day, thanks.
We have the rule about "warez and romz and the like" but we do not have a rule about breaking the law except in H&A where we only have a rule that talks about not asking for help in breaking the law.
Should the Penny-Arcade forums have a rule that says "Do not talk about breaking the law, planning to break the law, or ways in which you have broken the law" this might be a replacement rule for the warez issue which would fall under such a rule.
That's my idea for the day, thanks.
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Also a lot of laws are currently contested. IIRC it is still illegal to rip a CD in some countries simply because the law hasn't yet caught up with the tech.
An outright ban of 'illegal' topics would not only be hard to enforce, but also impossible to do with 100% consistency.
I personally don't feel that the current system of using common sense has caused any major problems, at least none that I know of.
All imho...
In this example, we have someone who's been "infracted" 2 points for asking if other people thought he should or shouldn't proceed with a plan that wasn't apparently illegal to the poster.
Again, I don't want to make this about me, I'm perfectly at peace with what happened, I'll use better judgment in the future, my only concern here is that we do not have any defined rules against talking about committing illegal acts.
I don't know what the rule would look like when you consider the international nature of the forums, but I do think we need something in written form.
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I guess my main point here is that if we don't define the rule it's left up to each moderator's judgment, and while they're trusted individuals they won't all have the same stance and that could very well cause upset and confusion for members who get cleared by one mod and then are infracted by another who disagrees. See where I'm going with this?
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I know, and I'm not debating my punishment, I'm campaigning for a rule that defines how these conversations can and can't be handled.
Sure, but (a) moderation is left up, in many cases, to a moderator's discretion; that's just how it works, really and (b) I am fairly certain that "controversial" bans/jailings/infractions would either have been discussed between moderators beforehand or would be afterward and rectified if need be.
You cannot really have a policy that encompasses every situation that a moderator might find it necessary to deal with, especially when you get into specific scenarios.
A few months ago, someone posted something like "you should go to that guy's house and beat him to death with a claw hammer"
He got an infraction.
He then found every instance of anyone talking about pot on the boards and messaged it to me to show how brutally unfair my regime is.
Long story short, we cover it with "don't be a dick". If you talk about how you once shoplifted something, probably nothing is going to happen. If you talk about how you once savagely raped someone, you'll probably get an infraction, or more likely banned.
Just be a decent human being and you won't get infractions.
Holy crap, that's disgustingly thorough of someone. Do we really have people that bitter here? <.<
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Yeah, that doesn't make the place sound shady at all.
Not anymore.
Or at least, not that dude. I think I saw him pop up in the ban-thread.
For future reference, when we feel like a thread has no merit and/or is unnecessary instead of posting in it asinine commentary we find that just ignoring the thread typically is the best course of action, seeing as with that course of action the thread becomes dis-interesting, floats towards the bottom of the page and is considered "dead".
I gather from your name that ignoring things is not one of your virtues, but still, lame posts like the one you made, especially in a section as slow as this one aren't helping anyone.
Furthermore, in answer to your question, this thread was necessary because I had a question that I wanted answered. don't be a jerk about it.
hey
don't be a dick
I just thought that the guy's spam post was pretty dickish and deserved a somewhat sarcastic yet high in vitamin-information post.
My apologies, I suck at this whole playing nice thing.
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At any rate, as the OP I am done with this thread, unless anyone else has meaningful contribution I vote for a locking.
hey
don't be a dick
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Haha, nice use of irony lewieP. I appreciate the support. :P
Just FYI.