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Possibly Moronic Wii/AV Question

Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Having just replaced my ageing CRT TV with a nifty (HD ready) LCD set, I booted up the Wii to play some Mario Galaxy. Unfortunately, the RGB cable gives a terrible picture and I am in need of a suitable replacement.

To make matters worse, my TV doesn't have a component video input. Is there a suitable coverter I can use to employ component cables, or are there any other methods I can use to give a decent picture on my new TV?

UPDATE: See my second post. My TV is not, in fact, HD ready.

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  • meekermeeker Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    How can a HD TV not have a Component in? What model TV do you have?

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  • Sci-Fi WasabiSci-Fi Wasabi Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    RGB cable? I thought those were component cables. Maybe I'm mistaken. Anyways, the only way to get a suitable picture with the Wii in high definition is to use component cables, like these, set your picture to 480p and widescreen in the Wii system settings, and that basically covers it. Do give your make and model number, because not having component inputs is just wacky, unless we are misunderstanding and your terminology is just off.

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I have a Kenmark LVD163D - my parents were just looking for a flat-screen TC to replace my broken CRT, nothing special. The specs are here:

    http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=416088&tab=specification#spec

    Turns out I thought having an HDMI input automatically made a TV "HD ready". Well, any possible way I can improve the picture quality?

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    hComponentVideoJack.jpg
    This is component


    s-video_PC.JPG
    This is S-Video

    connector-composite.png
    This is composite

    That is in order of best picture. Hopefully that helps.

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  • blincolnblincoln Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Since Red or Alive is in the UK, I'm assuming "RGB" is being used in the "SCART connector" sense, which makes things a little different. I am not in the UK, so I don't actually know what to recommend, I'm just saying that it's probably not as simple as S-Video versus component.
    That TV does have a 1024x768 resolution, so it's sort of 720p (real 720p is 1366 pixels wide, IIRC). I have a friend with a 42" plasma that runs at that resolution, and the Wii looks really nice on it.

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Improvolone wrote: »
    snip

    Thanks, but I'm not quite that hopeless.

    The gist is: my LCD TV gives a pretty crap picture with my Wii using the official RGB SCART cable (I'm typing this from the UK, where TVs tend to use SCART rather than S-video). Now, seeing as my set doesn't have a component video out option, am I borked, or are there any possible solutions?

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well, it was worth a shot!
    Try out the composite video cable, it might actually smooth some things out. Out side of that and playing with some TV settings, I vote for borked.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    If it's got a VGA input, you might be able to use the Vdigi third-party cable, but that cable only works for games that support progressive scan (and not every game does).

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Improvolone wrote: »
    Well, it was worth a shot!
    Try out the composite video cable, it might actually smooth some things out. Out side of that and playing with some TV settings, I vote for borked.

    You're probably right. I'll test the old composite video when I get back home.

    EDIT: While I'm here - why would a TV have HDMI input if it isn't "HD ready"?

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Because it will not only help sell the unit, but it will allow for HD once the tuner is added (since I beleive this is what HD ready means)
    I never really cared for HD ready.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Improvolone wrote: »
    Well, it was worth a shot!
    Try out the composite video cable, it might actually smooth some things out. Out side of that and playing with some TV settings, I vote for borked.

    No, SCART gives far nicer image quality than composite.

    (also vote for borked)

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Can you in any way define "terrible picture"?

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Erandus wrote: »
    Can you in any way define "terrible picture"?

    Blurry and very, very jaggy. I've turned up the contrast, but nothing compares to the comparatively pin-sharp and vivid picture I used to get on my CRT.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    You might want to try replacing the SCART cable. Alternately, try your TV with someone else's wii/scart.

    Any other scart devices that you can try on the tv? Do all scart inputs look like poo, or just the wii?

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Erandus wrote: »
    You might want to try replacing the SCART cable. Alternately, try your TV with someone else's wii/scart.

    Any other scart devices that you can try on the tv? Do all scart inputs look like poo, or just the wii?

    I think it's more due to the native resolution of the LCD TV.

    EDIT: That wasn't your question, was it? Tomorrow I'll see about hooking up the Saturn and/or Dreamcast. But, I think it's a generic enough problem for older consoles and LCD TVs.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I think it's just that LCDs, especially older ones, don't look as nice as CRTs do for lower resolutions. You can finally see the jaggedness.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Red or Alive wrote: »
    I think it's more due to the native resolution of the LCD TV.

    That would be my guess.

    For the record, RGB is a form of component video, just a different kind of component to YPbPr. SCART is a connector, not a video signal standard. SCART cables can carry RGB, Composite or (sometimes) S-Video signals, with audio.

    I was going to suggest S-Video, just for the sake of completeness, but apparently PAL Wiis can't use it anyway.

    EDIT: Also, I'm not certain, but I think VGA signals are very similar to RGB.

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  • blincolnblincoln Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Red or Alive wrote: »
    EDIT: While I'm here - why would a TV have HDMI input if it isn't "HD ready"?

    It is HD ready by some standards. It's definitely noticeably higher-res than a standard-definition TV.

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