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Amazing Spider-Man: Brand New Villains

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I like Shocker, even without having read that story.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I like Shocker as a joke villain

    Spider-Man needs a few joke villains

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, you need a little levity every now and then, and joke villains stop writers from turning legitimate threats into jokes.

    Also, I like how his dissatisfaction with his career and constant attempts to make one final score highlight the unseen side of super-villainy, namely the desperation one must feel after constant defeats.

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, you need a little levity every now and then, and joke villains stop writers from turning legitimate threats into jokes.

    Also, I like how his dissatisfaction with his career and constant attempts to make one final score highlight the unseen side of super-villainy, namely the desperation one must feel after constant defeats.

    This is true, though I admit I grew tired of its depiction in Spider-Man and now much favor the presentation in Invincible (e.g. MagmaMaster).

    Plus, I still cannot get my head around OMD/BND/whatever. I know it's just fiction so I'm not trying to bitch, but I can't enjoy reading/watching stories without at least SOME attempt at explaining the backstory.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I like Shocker as a joke villain

    Spider-Man needs a few joke villains

    USM Shocker is the best Shocker
    Just a dude who constantly gets the shit kicked out of him
    And then one day he wins and it ain't so funny anymore

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Lol! wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I like Shocker as a joke villain

    Spider-Man needs a few joke villains

    USM Shocker is the best Shocker
    Just a dude who constantly gets the shit kicked out of him
    And then one day he wins and it ain't so funny anymore

    I loved that Shocker story. It was a surprise (hah, you thought I was going to say shock!) and an awesome story when he won, all hail Bendis.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Joker did get sent to the chair once.

    He survived it

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The whole reason Kingdom Come works as a story is because Magog started with the Joker and everybody knows he deserved it.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ringo wrote: »
    The whole reason Kingdom Come works as a story is because Magog started with the Joker and everybody knows he deserved it.

    I liked seeing middle-aged Joker still had his groove, until he got shot in the gut by god magic at least.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ringo wrote: »
    The whole reason Kingdom Come works as a story is because Magog started with the Joker and everybody knows he deserved it.

    I liked seeing middle-aged Joker still had his groove, until he got shot in the gut by god magic at least.
    I like to think he found it funny that, in the end, he wasn't killed by Batman, or even Superman whose woman he just offed, or any of the dozens of other heroes who had a legitimate reason to take him down permanently. Instead, it was some guy with a magic blasting stick who noone had heard of.

    Then the guy gets acquited of the murder driving Superman into retirement.

    I'm betting Joker would have gotten a chuckle out of it, well, if he still had lungs.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Most of that probably came from people who read the rather awesome fan story Shocker: Legit.

    Here's the story, for anyone who hasn't read it yet. http://forgotten.faithweb.com/MaxLandis/legit00.htm

    It's a really good piece of fan fiction and, given some tweaks to make it relevant in current continuity, would probably make a pretty good miniseries.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Most of that probably came from people who read the rather awesome fan story Shocker: Legit.

    Here's the story, for anyone who hasn't read it yet. http://forgotten.faithweb.com/MaxLandis/legit00.htm

    It's a really good piece of fan fiction and, given some tweaks to make it relevant in current continuity, would probably make a pretty good miniseries.
    I love you. I've been trying to get that story out of old caches or the Wayback Machine for ages.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Some forward thinking person saved the story on their PC and reposted it. I just got lucky with my googling. I'm gonna do the smart thing and save it to my PC as well, because you never know when shit will disappear from the internets.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've just done the same thing!

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Incidentally, Max Landis has a comic coming out from Blue Water Productions: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16181

    Funny thing is that he mentioned this on FF.net right around the time he finished Legit, but it's taken almost 18 months for the comic to see the light of day.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I remember that too, but I'd assumed that the deal had fizzled out. He was already working in the industry in some form or another, wasn't he?

    ahah, maybe he was Marvel_b0y

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I dunno about any other comic work. I know he has a few credits on IMDB though. It probably doesn't hurt to be the son of John Landis either. :P

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hah, there is that. I didn't realise there was a connection, but I wondered.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Wow, can't believe someone finally found this
    I've wanted to read it since it was mentioned here a while ago

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm up to Part 7, and it's proven to be a very interesting read.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It drops off a bit at the end, sadly, but still a very worthwhile read.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    I mean this makes me feel really bad for the Rhino
    Really bad
    Poor lonely bastard

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Good god I thought I was the only one who remembered that the Goblin used to ride a broomstick
    Nice
    EDIT
    I also thought I was the only one who remembered Cardiac
    This shit is great

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've learned after years of wasting time on fan fiction that, done right, a fan fic can be superior to a legitimate story. I've read a few Harry Potter fics that make me want to forget the last two books of the series. Legit has served to make me livid every time someone writing Spidey puts Shocker in there as a throwaway villain.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    thats a silly thing to get livid about

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    thats a silly thing to get livid about

    Yeah, well, when you read a great story where a character is all awesome and shit, then you read other stories where the writer treats him like a fucking doormat, it can be a more than a little infuriating.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    but that story where he was awesome didnt actually happen.

    In the Marvel Universe shocker is a joke villain. Spider-Man needs a few of those around to keep things light.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    but that story where he was awesome didnt actually happen.

    In the Marvel Universe shocker is a joke villain. Spider-Man needs a few of those around to keep things light.

    I understand that it's not canon. That still doesn't stop me from being annoyed that someone can't make Shocker as awesome as in this story, or from preferring the non-lame, unofficial version of him.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I like joke villains

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm fine with joke villains, but just not Shocker. Once you read Legit, you kinda stop seeing him as a joke.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    I've learned after years of wasting time on fan fiction that, done right, a fan fic can be superior to a legitimate story. I've read a few Harry Potter fics that make me want to forget the last two books of the series. Legit has served to make me livid every time someone writing Spidey puts Shocker in there as a throwaway villain.

    the only fan fiction i've ever read was a story called "ashes of the phoenix". it was about all of the good mortal kombat characters teaming up with the good tekken characters to fight various evil tekken and mortal kombat characters. it was about 800 pages of single-sided printouts that a friend loaned me in eighth grade.

    it was pretty good, but i decided that i had other things in line to read that weren't written as internet epics starring someone else's intellectual property.


    though now i have a friend who has apparently written buffy fanfic. she has not told me this herself, but it's kind of a badly kept secret among our friends.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    but that story where he was awesome didnt actually happen.

    In the Marvel Universe shocker is a joke villain. Spider-Man needs a few of those around to keep things light.

    I understand that it's not canon. That still doesn't stop me from being annoyed that someone can't make Shocker as awesome as in this story, or from preferring the non-lame, unofficial version of him.
    This. I mean, who didn't like Ultimate Shocker suddenly turning round and *bam*?

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    legit ain't even that great

    it's thinly veiled continuity porn

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    legit ain't even that great

    it's thinly veiled continuity porn

    I liked it just fine. What about it was "continuity porn"?

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    the way shocker fucks mary jane is consistent with both his name and their established character histories

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited July 2008
    wait what

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Servo either hasn't read the story or is vastly confused

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    He means Felicia

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    wait what

    that's what makes it continuity porn man

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    grim123 wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    but that story where he was awesome didnt actually happen.

    In the Marvel Universe shocker is a joke villain. Spider-Man needs a few of those around to keep things light.

    yeah but real stories get ret-coned into inexistent all the time to like taskmaster's modern armor for example

    okay, but when has fan fiction ever been retconned into existence?

    "that was a pretty great story you linked me too, there, mister ed brubaker. i really liked the way wolverine buttfucked gambit. it totally makes sense that he's a top. let's throw that plotline in."

    "sounds great, mister mike carey!"


    edit- haha too late.

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