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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    FCD wrote: »
    Why is it good? Because you say so?

    Good writer, good artist. It will probably be a pretty good comic.

    Yeah. Slott's really their big gun and he's coming out blazing.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2008
    FCD wrote: »
    Why should I care about this story? They are just going to retcon this retcon away eventually. It's ultimately not going to matter.

    I'm going to start infracting people who take every opportunity to be as big of a bitch as is possible.

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  • Mr PinkMr Pink I got cats for youRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    FCD wrote: »
    Why is it good? Because you say so?

    It's good because you say so. Thats how personal opinion works. I mean, if you flip through the book or read a few previews and don't feel interested, ignore it.

    I'd think that few comic arcs have real, permanent 5 or 10 year effects. That's the nature of the beast. Complaining that they don't 'matter' is like complaining that a football teams' wins two seasons ago don't count this year.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Man, I'm really conflicted about buying this. I know I'll probably be weak and cave to it anyway, but still.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Do it, it's good.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    OK, it only to up the potential to own a comic where 616 MJ makes a 'jackpot' quote.

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well, you don't have to buy every issue to get that quote. You could just wait until the issue it happens, and then buy that one.

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  • SASA Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So, I went and re-read the Free Comic Book Day Spider-Man comic since its in continuity now and everything.

    Its good and all but something about it rubs me the wrong way. I guess it just the sudden change in tone from the emotional firestorm we've been getting from JMS these past few years.

    The overdrive villain was easily the best part and he has connections to the Mister Negative guy that will play a role in BND.

    God I hope this will be good... or OMD will be for nothing.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Overdrive was awesome, and I'd love to see more villains who exist outside of the petty thug with powers, evil genius with powers, and homicidal maniac with powers templates that shape the greater part of Spider-Man's rogues gallery.

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    You know, setting aside all of my issues with this entire mess and what I think it means for the industry, etc...

    ... another good question has been raised. Precisely how the fuck is Mary Jane Watson a superhero, and what makes her a superbeing, and how on earth did not getting married affect this? I mean, I kind of like the costume with the butt came and flared pants ( :winky: ), and granted she has very rarely gone up against supervillains before, but those were comedy situations, like "lol 2x4 > Chameleon." What's different that allows her to actually play with the big boys?

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2008
    I don't know, maybe they'll explain it in the freakin' story.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't know, maybe they'll explain it in the freakin' story.

    That's gonna be a big fucking issue.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2008
    I don't know, maybe they'll explain it in the freakin' story.

    That's gonna be a big fucking issue.

    It could be a multiple issue story like most comic stories

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    FCD wrote: »
    Well, you don't have to buy every issue to get that quote. You could just wait until the issue it happens, and then buy that one.

    Stop shooting down my flimsy rationalisations

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Regarding MJ as Jackpot:
    From the first issue, so far what we know about Jackpot is that she's not invulnerable, but she may be immune to pain. She's also extremely fit and has some kind of gymnastics/acrobatics training, and since she could kick in the windshield on a semi, I'm guessing she's got some enhanced strength.

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  • KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Has it been stated that MJ actually is Jackpot or is it just everyone sees red head with big boobs named after MJ's catch phrase and assuming its her? While I won't be surprised if it is, in fact, actually her in the costume, I haven't seen any outright confirmation of it.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DMAC wrote: »
    Ha ha ha.
    Mister Negative

    "Great, another one. And what do you do, little boy?"

    "I make the life of everyone around me hell!"

    "... yeah, we're gonna get along just swell."

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    KVW wrote: »
    Has it been stated that MJ actually is Jackpot or is it just everyone sees red head with big boobs named after MJ's catch phrase and assuming its her? While I won't be surprised if it is, in fact, actually her in the costume, I haven't seen any outright confirmation of it.

    From her internal monologue, it's reasonable to assume it's MJ.

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  • smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So I succumbed to the allure of Dan Slott's writing (love A:Initiative) and bought this. It was alright but did anyone else feel like they were being hit upside the head with "oh brand new day" and other things.

    Also did anyone else find themselves counting the "o" faces in that jackpot story?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    I liked the story, it was good, not spectacular, but a good story. McNiven's art was on the whole, gorgeous but slipped a bit in a few scenes.

    The MJ back-up was decent, I liked Harry's and Aunt May's was....different.

    I'm on board for now if they keep this level of quality.

    Also Mister Negative is pretty damn awesome.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The rest of the BND interview with Steve Wacker: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=142504. Some good answers in there regarding how far the retcon goes.

    Man, someone tell Steve that he's not even a quarter as funny as he thinks he is.

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  • VirralVirral Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    The rest of the BND interview with Steve Wacker: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=142504. Some good answers in there regarding how far the retcon goes.

    Man, someone tell Steve that he's not even a quarter as funny as he thinks he is.

    Wow... you weren't kidding. I didn't make it more than about three lines into his first response before having to stop reading. His "humor" > my interest in learning more about OMD/BND.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Blankspace wrote: »
    I liked the story, it was good, not spectacular, but a good story. McNiven's art was on the whole, gorgeous but slipped a bit in a few scenes.

    Was it Amazing, at least?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Blankspace wrote: »
    I liked the story, it was good, not spectacular, but a good story. McNiven's art was on the whole, gorgeous but slipped a bit in a few scenes.

    Was it Amazing, at least?
    I was going to add Amazing and Friendly when I bought it in my neighborhood comic shop



    but I chose not to.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Come to think of it, given what the main focus of the new direction is, it seems like the Peter Parker title would've been the one to keep...

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  • SASA Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Come to think of it, given what the main focus of the new direction is, it seems like the Peter Parker title would've been the one to keep...

    I highly doubt they would have canceled Amazing Fucking Spider-Man instead.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    It was awful.

    Just a phoned in piece of shit really

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  • SASA Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well, I thought it was great.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Algertman giving a negative review of a Marvel title usually means it's worth reading.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    So I succumbed to the allure of Dan Slott's writing (love A:Initiative) and bought this. It was alright but did anyone else feel like they were being hit upside the head with "oh brand new day" and other things.
    *raises hand*

    The "I'm too young to get married" was especially blatant. And Ridiculous.

    Pete. You're almost 30, if not already there. What age do you think people marry at?
    smokmnky wrote: »
    Also did anyone else find themselves counting the "o" faces in that jackpot story?
    well, it is Greg Land. He's gotta get the porn tracing in somewhere

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  • CuckooForCookiesCuckooForCookies Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I didn't think the first issue was awful, or anything near awful, really, but I wasn't an enormous fan, either. It still feels really weird, and something that I can't quite place feels off (useful, I know). The issue is a significant departure from JMS's emotional, change-filled run (which, as I've stated earlier, I really enjoyed for the most part), but I'm not sure that detracts from it. It's a change of pace, for sure, and one that could really be awesome, but right now there are so many loose ends that need to be tied up, and questions that need to be answered, that I'm wary.

    I'm not sure if I should spoiler this or not, so I'm going to play it safe and go ahead. Concerning events from the most recent Amazing:
    The thing that leapt immediately to mind was Spider-Man's apparent long absence. Where in continuity is this set? The biggest question that I had was how does this affect New Avengers. I mean, I know the team is called the Secret Avengers for a reason, but they've been somewhat high profile recently, and it seems like Spider-Man would have had to have appeared in the media once or twice after stuff like the Venom virus.

    Anyway, I enjoyed Slott's writing and McNiven's artwork was excellent, as usual. I'm mostly concerned with where they're going to take the story. With that said, there's been no indication that this is going to go in a bad direction, as of yet, so I'm staying optimistic and hope for some great things to come of this.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    im still on the fence about the thought-bubbles

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'll say one thing for Brand New Day: if it gives us more stories like Darwyn Cooke's little number at the end of the second ASM harcover, I'm all for it.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Algertman giving a negative review of a Marvel title usually means it's worth reading.

    yeah, well, you probably won't like it

    not enough black people

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    oh and here comes algertman with more thoughtful commentary on the subject at hand.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Algertman wrote: »
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Algertman giving a negative review of a Marvel title usually means it's worth reading.

    yeah, well, you probably won't like it

    not enough black people

    Okay fuck you.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    august wrote: »
    Algertman wrote: »
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Algertman giving a negative review of a Marvel title usually means it's worth reading.

    yeah, well, you probably won't like it

    not enough black people

    Okay fuck you.


    So it's OK for him to make broad generalizations about based on past post but I can't do the same to him?

    What I posted was in no way racist

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2008
    DO I HAVE TO TURN THIS CAR AROUND

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DO I HAVE TO TURN THIS CAR AROUND

    No, I apologize

    I also apologize to wwtMask

    What i said was wrong

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Wait, where's this car going? I hope it's Wally World.

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