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Edit: also recently confirmed, sister company to Warner Bros., New Line Cinema has also announced Blu-ray exclusivity
(January 4, 2008 – Burbank, CA) – In response to consumer demand, Warner Bros. Entertainment will release its high-definition DVD titles exclusively in the Blu-ray disc format beginning later this year, it was announced today by Barry Meyer, Chairman & CEO, Warner Bros. and Kevin Tsujihara, President, Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group.
“Warner Bros.’ move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want,†said Meyer. “The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers.â€
Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008.
“Warner Bros. has produced in both high-definition formats in an effort to provide consumer choice, foster mainstream adoption and drive down hardware prices,†said Jeff Bewkes, President and Chief Executive Officer, Time Warner Inc., the parent company of Warner Bros. Entertainment. “Today’s decision by Warner Bros. to distribute in a single format comes at the right time and is the best decision both for consumers and Time Warner.â€
“A two-format landscape has led to consumer confusion and indifference toward high definition, which has kept the technology from reaching mass adoption and becoming the important revenue stream that it can be for the industry,†said Tsujihara. “Consumers have clearly chosen Blu-ray, and we believe that recognizing this preference is the right step in making this great home entertainment experience accessible to the widest possible audience. Warner Bros. has worked very closely with the Toshiba Corporation in promoting high definition media and we have enormous respect for their efforts. We look forward to working with them on other projects in the future.â€
I fear this may be a nail in the coffin for HD DVD. With Warner Bros support (on the HDDVD side) it would have been 50/50 ... but this skews studio support more like 70/30 in favour of Blu-ray.
I'm glad that things are shifting to one side vs. the other. Most consumers I imagine will welcome this (unless you gambled and lost on HD-DVD).
I imagine that most consumers don't really care much about HD movies yet or will never hear about this.
Really? Those displays at Target/Best Buy/etc. for HD movies seem to get bigger every time I visit. Maybe I'm wrong but I assumed that this was a sign of growing interest.
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Maybe now everyone will stop talking format wars and we can let the whole HD thing fade into obscurity.
I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. If BR had been a failure then Sony would just be that much more laughable, but as it is they are somewhat legitimized. I guess.
Hey! I had a laserdisc player. It was great, as long as you didn't mind stopping mid movie to flip the massive disc.
i more meant that it would die and people would make fun of it
My parents bought into Laserdisc and bought in hard. I don't even know where our stacks of discs ever went to, but maybe my father burned them all in a mountain of flaming shame.
I'm actually glad that we're one step closer to ending the format war but TBH I'm pleased enough with upscaled DVDs that I won't be moving on to anything else for years.
Hey! I had a laserdisc player. It was great, as long as you didn't mind stopping mid movie to flip the massive disc.
i more meant that it would die and people would make fun of it
My parents bought into Laserdisc and bought in hard. I don't even know where our stacks of discs ever went to, but maybe my father burned them all in a mountain of flaming shame.
When they finally died off I bought a bunch of movies for massive discounts at Blockbuster. Then my player died...
So how long until bluray is eclipsed by digital distribution?
Unfortunately this war won't be over quick enough as Transformers is still exclusive to HD-DVD, and it doesn't sound like there's going to be a Blu Ray edition anytime soon. It really pisses me off, since it's highly tempting me to go purchase the HD-DVD add-on (getting five free mediocre movies only slightly sweetens the deal).
This whole movie war is a terrible thing to put up with, and I largely blame MS for it.
I have both Blu Ray and HD DVD, and I think I like the HD-DVD/DVD combo discs the best, but either way, I don't really care.
I don't know why people would be upset about lack of support on their player - it's not like your old movies just up and stop playing.
With all of the freebies, it's like people PAID ME to take HD-DVD. I got Heroes Season 1 ($100 value) for free, and 5 free HD-DVDs ($125 value).
Right now, Amazon just had a buy one get one sale on HD-DVDs. Basically, $10 gets you a movie in high def - that's near Xbox Marketplace prices, and you get to keep the film.
People are losing sight of the fact that high def movies, right here, right now, are an incredible deal for folks like me with a large screen HDTV. Amazon also has a buy one get one on Blu Rays... Again, $10 for a movie (Harry Potter, for example).
I say, get while the gettin's good. A disc player isn't some big time investment. It plays movies.
Again, I like the HD-DVD / DVD combos - hell, you can get them if they're a good deal, and you don't even have to worry if you'll ever get a HD-DVD player.
Dumb question, but is the Transformers movie available for download in the Marketplace the DVD version of HD-DVD version? Pretty sure it'll be the former due to space limits, but who knows.
Maybe now everyone will stop talking format wars and we can let the whole HD thing fade into obscurity.
I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. If BR had been a failure then Sony would just be that much more laughable, but as it is they are somewhat legitimized. I guess.
I wonder how much the PS3 factored in.
HD fade into obscurity? Are you kidding? Go and try to find a SD television at any retail store. If there are any, theyre tucked in the corner with the spiderwebs. HD televisions are getting cheaper and bigger everyday. Shit, even my dad has one and he's late to every technology party. HD is going to be widespread by the end of this decade and standard not long after.
As for Sony... the winds of change are a comin. The PS3 had a fine holiday season, software sales are up and this years lineup is going to smash heads in. Enjoy your lolsony while you can knuckleheads.
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Dumb question, but is the Transformers movie available for download in the Marketplace the DVD version of HD-DVD version? Pretty sure it'll be the former due to space limits, but who knows.
Neither, it's the downloadable version.
It's available in high definition, but technically the HD DVD version should look better because of something called "bitrate" - in other words, compression, just like in music (an MP3 isn't just an MP3, there's a difference between 128K and 192K).
So quick question, I recently found out that HD-DVD has internet integration. Like, certain HD-DVDs will let you go online and download additional content or what not, and that all HD-DVD drives have a small amount of storage on them.
Does Blu-ray work the same way? Can certain blu-ray discs send you online to get additional content?
I can't answer your question, but it's my inderstanding that certain HD-DVDs that have been released lately actually require you to download a patch before they will play on older HD-DVD players.
Also, if I remember correctly, the 360 HD-DVD drive had 192MB of space.
Dumb question, but is the Transformers movie available for download in the Marketplace the DVD version of HD-DVD version? Pretty sure it'll be the former due to space limits, but who knows.
Neither, it's the downloadable version.
It's available in high definition, but technically the HD DVD version should look better because of something called "bitrate" - in other words, compression, just like in music (an MP3 isn't just an MP3, there's a difference between 128K and 192K).
I guess I should have rephrased: How does the downloadable version stack up visually? Better than DVD, less as good as HD-DVD? Do you get 5.1 sound?
I can't answer your question, but it's my inderstanding that certain HD-DVDs that have been released lately actually require you to download a patch before they will play on older HD-DVD players.
What the shit.
Seriously?
Fuck that noise right there.
I.....how did that come about.
I mean, seriously, what the hell were 'they' smoking when they came up with that. WTF
In the next 12/24 months there will combi blu-ray/HD-DVD players at an affordable mass market price.
Then the distinction between HD-DVD and blu-ray will be irrelavent.
Edit: In the next decade Digital Distribution will surpass both formats though.
I'm calling that shit.
I'm seeing both rising. People want to have physical copies of stuff, and while digital distribution will rise, it'll take quite a while before it replaces hard copy. As much as we believe the internet is prevalent, it's not yet. There are still large markets which don't have anything but 56k, and movie companies will want to hit them. 20, maybe 30 years? I could see digital distribution becoming standard. But 10... even with the way technology moves, I can't see that. High-Def video formats will be around for at least a while.
Maybe now everyone will stop talking format wars and we can let the whole HD thing fade into obscurity.
I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. If BR had been a failure then Sony would just be that much more laughable, but as it is they are somewhat legitimized. I guess.
I wonder how much the PS3 factored in.
HD fade into obscurity? Are you kidding? Go and try to find a SD television at any retail store. If there are any, theyre tucked in the corner with the spiderwebs. HD televisions are getting cheaper and bigger everyday. Shit, even my dad has one and he's late to every technology party. HD is going to be widespread by the end of this decade and standard not long after.
As for Sony... the winds of change are a comin. The PS3 had a fine holiday season, software sales are up and this years lineup is going to smash heads in. Enjoy your lolsony while you can knuckleheads.
Do you have any sources on HDTV sales? I can't find any legit ones on google, all I have is the talking podcast heads on some tech podcasts who claimed that HD sales still made up less then 50% of all new television sales. Meaning HD would still be losing ground to SD.
In the next 12/24 months there will combi blu-ray/HD-DVD players at an affordable mass market price.
Then the distinction between HD-DVD and blu-ray will be irrelavent.
Edit: In the next decade Digital Distribution will surpass both formats though.
I'm calling that shit.
I'm seeing both rising. People want to have physical copies of stuff, and while digital distribution will rise, it'll take quite a while before it replaces hard copy. As much as we believe the internet is prevalent, it's not yet. There are still large markets which don't have anything but 56k, and movie companies will want to hit them. 20, maybe 30 years? I could see digital distribution becoming standard. But 10... even with the way technology moves, I can't see that. High-Def video formats will be around for at least a while.
I pretty much agree. I just think some form of digital distribution will be market leader.
Kinda like I bet there are more manhours watched on streaming video than regular telly these days. (no numbers, so just pulled out of my arse)
There are still plenty of HD-DVD exclusives it is not like this war is over. I have both players now so it doesn't really matter to me who wins. Either way I will always be able to watch the movies I currently have. Which right now is 25 HD-DVDs and 0 Blu-Rays. Although that will change soon enough. Rumors are a large sum of money was paid to Warner just like the HD-DVD Paramount deal last year. I still think this whole mess is just going to go on and on for a few more years and before one format wins everything will switch to digital download.
Dumb question, but is the Transformers movie available for download in the Marketplace the DVD version of HD-DVD version? Pretty sure it'll be the former due to space limits, but who knows.
Neither, it's the downloadable version.
It's available in high definition, but technically the HD DVD version should look better because of something called "bitrate" - in other words, compression, just like in music (an MP3 isn't just an MP3, there's a difference between 128K and 192K).
I guess I should have rephrased: How does the downloadable version stack up visually? Better than DVD, less as good as HD-DVD? Do you get 5.1 sound?
I haven't rented Transformers, but I have watched other Xbox Marketplace high def items at a buddy's house:
5.1 sound, better than DVD by a long shot, slightly less good than HD-DVD, especially in fast motion sequences.
All of this depends on the size of your TV. Bigger = more noticable.
EDIT - the marketplace movies are (I think) at 720p, which is why the difference can be noticable right away. Of course, my buddy had a 720p native set, so I didn't have a good basis for direct comparison, really.
When did new releases stop coming out on VHS tapes anyway?
around 1998. Movie companies were absolutely begging to switch from VHS tapes... most don't know or don't remember, but VHS was fucking EXPENSIVE! There used to be a much longer wait for movies to come home because people had to wait for movie prices to fall. There was a point where new movies on VHS would cost $100. Even near the end, VHS prices when new were still more than DVD prices. Making a VHS tape is very pricey - it costs the consumer and the manufacturer.
I can't answer your question, but it's my inderstanding that certain HD-DVDs that have been released lately actually require you to download a patch before they will play on older HD-DVD players.
What the shit.
Seriously?
Fuck that noise right there.
I.....how did that come about.
I mean, seriously, what the hell were 'they' smoking when they came up with that. WTF
Firmware updates are that hard to understand?
And no, TSR, to my knowledge, BluRays don't have internet integration like HD-DVDs do because they still don't have an established standard for BluRays.
I can't answer your question, but it's my inderstanding that certain HD-DVDs that have been released lately actually require you to download a patch before they will play on older HD-DVD players.
What the shit.
Seriously?
Fuck that noise right there.
I.....how did that come about.
I mean, seriously, what the hell were 'they' smoking when they came up with that. WTF
Blu-ray players do this, too. It's called a "Firmware update". You may have heard of them - they allow discs built using updated standards to play on equipment made available before the new standards came into effect. I wish DVD players did this - we have an old DVD player that refuses to play some discs properly, such as monsters Inc. or Red Dwarf III, because the standard they use is newer than the firmware on the player.
And no, TSR, to my knowledge, BluRays don't have internet integration like HD-DVDs do because they still don't have an established standard for BluRays.
weak. oh well, no matter, I'm like corin7 in that I want to have all my bases covered, so I've known for a while that I'm gonna eventually buy that 360 HD-DVD drive add-on.
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I imagine that most consumers don't really care much about HD movies yet or will never hear about this.
they were a great studio doing great multiformat releaes (ie. matrix sets). whyyyyyy
ah well I guess at some point I'll get a dual format player down the road.
Really? Those displays at Target/Best Buy/etc. for HD movies seem to get bigger every time I visit. Maybe I'm wrong but I assumed that this was a sign of growing interest.
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Hey! I had a laserdisc player. It was great, as long as you didn't mind stopping mid movie to flip the massive disc.
i more meant that it would die and people would make fun of it
I have to admit, I am a little disappointed. If BR had been a failure then Sony would just be that much more laughable, but as it is they are somewhat legitimized. I guess.
I wonder how much the PS3 factored in.
My parents bought into Laserdisc and bought in hard. I don't even know where our stacks of discs ever went to, but maybe my father burned them all in a mountain of flaming shame.
I'm actually glad that we're one step closer to ending the format war but TBH I'm pleased enough with upscaled DVDs that I won't be moving on to anything else for years.
When they finally died off I bought a bunch of movies for massive discounts at Blockbuster. Then my player died...
So how long until bluray is eclipsed by digital distribution?
This whole movie war is a terrible thing to put up with, and I largely blame MS for it.
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Then the distinction between HD-DVD and blu-ray will be irrelavent.
Edit: In the next decade Digital Distribution will surpass both formats though.
I'm calling that shit.
I don't know why people would be upset about lack of support on their player - it's not like your old movies just up and stop playing.
With all of the freebies, it's like people PAID ME to take HD-DVD. I got Heroes Season 1 ($100 value) for free, and 5 free HD-DVDs ($125 value).
Right now, Amazon just had a buy one get one sale on HD-DVDs. Basically, $10 gets you a movie in high def - that's near Xbox Marketplace prices, and you get to keep the film.
People are losing sight of the fact that high def movies, right here, right now, are an incredible deal for folks like me with a large screen HDTV. Amazon also has a buy one get one on Blu Rays... Again, $10 for a movie (Harry Potter, for example).
I say, get while the gettin's good. A disc player isn't some big time investment. It plays movies.
Again, I like the HD-DVD / DVD combos - hell, you can get them if they're a good deal, and you don't even have to worry if you'll ever get a HD-DVD player.
I hope so, I got my xbox add on CHEAP, but I'd hate to have to rebuy planet earth, or Heroes Season 1 when I move on to the xbox 720 or whatever.
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I'll be buying those for the next 5 years.
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HD fade into obscurity? Are you kidding? Go and try to find a SD television at any retail store. If there are any, theyre tucked in the corner with the spiderwebs. HD televisions are getting cheaper and bigger everyday. Shit, even my dad has one and he's late to every technology party. HD is going to be widespread by the end of this decade and standard not long after.
As for Sony... the winds of change are a comin. The PS3 had a fine holiday season, software sales are up and this years lineup is going to smash heads in. Enjoy your lolsony while you can knuckleheads.
Neither, it's the downloadable version.
It's available in high definition, but technically the HD DVD version should look better because of something called "bitrate" - in other words, compression, just like in music (an MP3 isn't just an MP3, there's a difference between 128K and 192K).
I just sold my 360 HD-DVD player last week!
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Does Blu-ray work the same way? Can certain blu-ray discs send you online to get additional content?
Also, if I remember correctly, the 360 HD-DVD drive had 192MB of space.
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I guess I should have rephrased: How does the downloadable version stack up visually? Better than DVD, less as good as HD-DVD? Do you get 5.1 sound?
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Seriously?
Fuck that noise right there.
I.....how did that come about.
I mean, seriously, what the hell were 'they' smoking when they came up with that.
WTF
I'm seeing both rising. People want to have physical copies of stuff, and while digital distribution will rise, it'll take quite a while before it replaces hard copy. As much as we believe the internet is prevalent, it's not yet. There are still large markets which don't have anything but 56k, and movie companies will want to hit them. 20, maybe 30 years? I could see digital distribution becoming standard. But 10... even with the way technology moves, I can't see that. High-Def video formats will be around for at least a while.
Do you have any sources on HDTV sales? I can't find any legit ones on google, all I have is the talking podcast heads on some tech podcasts who claimed that HD sales still made up less then 50% of all new television sales. Meaning HD would still be losing ground to SD.
I pretty much agree. I just think some form of digital distribution will be market leader.
Kinda like I bet there are more manhours watched on streaming video than regular telly these days. (no numbers, so just pulled out of my arse)
Good job?
There are still plenty of HD-DVD exclusives it is not like this war is over. I have both players now so it doesn't really matter to me who wins. Either way I will always be able to watch the movies I currently have. Which right now is 25 HD-DVDs and 0 Blu-Rays. Although that will change soon enough. Rumors are a large sum of money was paid to Warner just like the HD-DVD Paramount deal last year. I still think this whole mess is just going to go on and on for a few more years and before one format wins everything will switch to digital download.
I haven't rented Transformers, but I have watched other Xbox Marketplace high def items at a buddy's house:
5.1 sound, better than DVD by a long shot, slightly less good than HD-DVD, especially in fast motion sequences.
All of this depends on the size of your TV. Bigger = more noticable.
EDIT - the marketplace movies are (I think) at 720p, which is why the difference can be noticable right away. Of course, my buddy had a 720p native set, so I didn't have a good basis for direct comparison, really.
around 1998. Movie companies were absolutely begging to switch from VHS tapes... most don't know or don't remember, but VHS was fucking EXPENSIVE! There used to be a much longer wait for movies to come home because people had to wait for movie prices to fall. There was a point where new movies on VHS would cost $100. Even near the end, VHS prices when new were still more than DVD prices. Making a VHS tape is very pricey - it costs the consumer and the manufacturer.
Firmware updates are that hard to understand?
And no, TSR, to my knowledge, BluRays don't have internet integration like HD-DVDs do because they still don't have an established standard for BluRays.
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Blu-ray players do this, too. It's called a "Firmware update". You may have heard of them - they allow discs built using updated standards to play on equipment made available before the new standards came into effect. I wish DVD players did this - we have an old DVD player that refuses to play some discs properly, such as monsters Inc. or Red Dwarf III, because the standard they use is newer than the firmware on the player.
weak. oh well, no matter, I'm like corin7 in that I want to have all my bases covered, so I've known for a while that I'm gonna eventually buy that 360 HD-DVD drive add-on.