[SMASH] Thread over!

Flippy_D

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<End of Day>

Captain Olimar always makes sure to return to his spaceship before nightfall when he’s out exploring new planets. Why is that?

That’s because nighttime on these planets is absolutely teeming with scaaary wild beasts! To avoid an encounter with those creatures, Olimar takes to the safety of space during the night.

So how could we represent this idea in Brawl...?



First things first. Get that Smash Ball!



There's Olimar's ship!



Blast off! The ship soars higher and higher into the stratosphere.



Stars fill the sky above.



Wild beasts everywhere! Aaaah!

Characters left behind on the ground take lots and lots of damage.

But dishing out damage alone won’t score you points. The more people in the brawl, the more damage you can expect this attack to do, but beware—another opponent may steal the KO you’ve worked so hard to set up.

In a one-on-one match, this Final Smash won’t deal as much damage, but hey, there’s no worry that someone else will steal your KO, either.

I guess you could call this balancing the gameplay, huh?



The ship comes crashing back to the battlefield
with a huge explosion! Maybe, if you’re lucky,
you’ll catch someone in the blast?
_____________________________________________________________________


E For All Demo

-Our first gameplay video posted courtesy of Faustum. Another gameplay video, also courtesy of Faustum.
- FINAL SMASH COMPILATION VIDEO. Hooray Faustum!
-Joshua368 found a ton of videos, most of which are recent.
-Zec posted an adventure mode preview showing off Donkey and Diddy Kong.
-StriderEdge posted an adventure mode preview showing off Kirby and Peach.
-Cloudeagle posts yet another adventure mode preview showing off Pit and Mario.
-Faustum posts a final adventure mode preview called Worlds Collide featuring Wario
-InvisibleInk posted this interesting article: Nintendo World Reports Impressions of the E for All demo
-Ultrachrist found an Official E for All Firsthand Impressions Thread put together by SmashBoards

Control Settings

There have the option to play this game with four different kinds of controllers.



You can remap the buttons any way you choose, and save your settings to your name for easy access. These are the default settings for each control setup.

Playable Characters

Veteran Fighters





Newcomers




Missing Characters
As of yet unconfirmed characters from the previous Super Smash Bros games.

Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi

Mewtwo
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth
Dr. Mario
Ganondorf
Falco
Young Link
Pichu
Roy

Interesting Fact: All of these characters have one thing in common: They were all hidden characters in their respective games. None of the returning characters so far were locked when you first started up the two games.

Final Smashes

Mario - Mario Finale

Link - Triforce Slash

Pikachu - Volt Tackle

Samus - Zero Laser

Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation

Donkey Kong - Konga Beat

Yoshi - Super Dragon

Pit - Palutena's Army

Diddy Kong - Rocketbarrel Barrage

Pokémon Trainer - Triple Finish

Fox - Landmaster

Kirby - Cook Kirby

Peach - Peach Blossom

Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness

Ike - Great Aether

Ice Climbers - Iceberg

Lucas - PK Starstorm

Wario - Wario-Man

King Dedede - Waddle Dee Army

Sonic - Super Sonic

Snake - Grenade Launcher

Olimar - End of Day

Game Modes

The Subspace Emissary - A full-fledged adventure mode featuring the whole Smash Brothers roster going through side-scrolling stages and boss fights as they stop the evil plot of the Anceint Minister. Includes two-player co-op.



Wi-Fi Play - Play online against opponents from around the world, either against your friends on your friend list or against random and completely anonymous players on free-for-alls.


Trophies and Stickers - These are collectables you'll find as you play! You can now obtain trophies through a special new minigame.


Challenges - Sorta like acheivements - boxes get unlocked as you fulfil certain criteria. Hammers can be used to open some of the boxes, but not all. The boxes contain CDs, trophies, and probably other stuff.


Snapshots and Replay - Instead of a separate camera mode, you can now take snapshots anytime you pause. You can also record about three minutes of gameplay in replays. You can share all your footage with your friends.


Event Mode - Take part in specially designed battles with unique settings and objectives. Now features varying difficulty levels and a separate co-op list.


Stage Builder - Create and share completely custom stages with your friends!


Special Brawl - This time you can stack up the various special modes of play to create unique and varied brawls.


Home-Run Contest - Smash the sand bag as far as you can with a Home-Run bat. It how features a weak forcefield for higher combo potential. You can also play co-op or competitively with nearby or online friends.


Target Smash!! - Use any character to break the targets of five different stages of varying difficulty, now with items and co-op to help.


Multi-Man Brawl - Take on the multicolored Fighting Alloy Team with various modes of play! Features co-op, including online with friends.



Lesser Game Modes:
- Classic, take on series-themed battles on this classic one player mode
- Tourney, play with up to 64 friends in a layered tournament
- Spectator, watch and bet on random online battles
- Training, practice with either CPUs or friends in this controlled enviroment
- Rotation, more than four players can take turns playing with this swap-out mode
- Handicap, adjust the amount of damage players start with to balance brawls

New Items

Crates and Barrels - They are now themed to fit the level style: normal, festive or futuristic. There are also rolling crates that slide hazardly, and explosive crates and barrels are marked as such.


Assist Trophy: This item is similar to be Pokéball but instead produces various video game characters. These are not in any way playable characters.


Known Assist trophies:

Hammer Bro


Nintendog


Samurai Goroh


Dr. Wright


Knuckle Joe


Devil


Andross


Lyn


Mr. Resetti


Excitebike


Lakitu


Little Mac


Gray Fox


Saki Amamiya


Stafy


Waluigi

Poké Ball: An all-time favorite item which gives you a random Pokémon ranging from the earliest to latest games.


Known Pokémon:

Groudon


Deoxys


Munchlax


Piplup


Meowth


Bonsly


Known returning Pokémon: Bellossom, Celebi, Chikorita, Electrode, Entei, Goldeen, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Mew, Snorlax, Staryu, Suicune, Togepi, Wobbuffet

Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player.


Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It shoots out rapid-fire blasts and can be aimed up and down while running.


Banana Peel: Because clichés work. This item doesn't do much other than tripping an opponent.


Bumper: A returning item from the original Super Smash Brothers, this time around it can be placed in midair.


Pitfall: The item comes from Animal Crossing and retains its effect from there. It can trap opponents in the ground or drop them through a platform.


Smoke Ball: This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen. It shoots out rainbow-colored gas.


Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), it attaches to a player's chest and is basically an automatic reflector.


Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs, eating this will make your player constantly spew out flames.


Golden Hammer: A coat of paint works wonders, this hammer is flung around at crazy speeds and can let you hover. Occassionally it is a worthless squeaky hammer.


Smart Bomb: From the Starfox series, this bomb creates a massive explosion when thrown.


Team Healer: Only appearing in Team Battles, this item has to be picked up and thrown at your teammate to heal him, and can be intercepted.


Dragoon: You must fight to collect all three pieces before winning the one-hit KO of this legendary Air Ride machine.


Confirmed returning items: Beam Sword, Bob-omb, Bumper, Bunny Hood, Fan, Fire Flower, Food, Freezie, Green Shell, Hammer, Heart Container, Home-Run Bat, Lip's Stick, Maxim Tomato, Motion-Sensor Bomb, Mr. Saturn, Party Ball, Poison Mushroom, Poké Ball, Ray Gun, Screw Attack, Star Rod, Starman, Super Mushroom, Super Scope, Warp Star

Still unceartain items: Barrel Cannon, Cloaking Device, Flipper, Metal Box, Parasol, Red Shell

Announced Stages

Battlefield (Super Smash Bros.)

Delfino Plaza (Super Mario Sunshine)

Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island)

Lylat Cruise (Starfox)

Bridge of Eldin (The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess)

Smashville (Animal Crossing)

Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat)

Skyworld (Kid Icarus)

Castle Seige (Fire Emblem)

WarioWare (WarioWare)

Pokémon Stadium 2 (Pokémon)

Battleship Halberd (Kirby Superstar)

Shadow Moses Island (Metal Gear Solid)

New Pork City (Mother 3)

PictoChat (Nintendo DS)

The Summit (Ice Climber)

Norfair (Metroid)

Mario Circuit (Mario Kart)

Frigate Orpheon (Metroid Prime)

Distant Planet (Pikmin)

Melee Stages: Temple, Yoshi's Island, Corneria, Onett, Brinstar, Rainbow Ride

Such Pretty Music

First, a giant list of composers, accompanied by the new Menu Music:

Menu Theme

Now just some small clips to some music samples we've been given:

- Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme
- Yoshi's Story: Ending
- Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)
- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
- Star Fox: Space Armada
- Kid Icarus: The Underworld
- Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider!
- Pokémon: Pokémon Stadium/Evolution
- Metal Gear Solid: MGS4 Love Theme (Smash Bros. Brawl Version)
- DS Cooking Game (Japanese only)
- WarioWare: Ashley's Theme
- WarioWare: Ashley's Theme (Japanese version)
- Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme
- Kirby: Meta Knight's Revenge
- Donkey Kong
- Zelda II: The Adventure of Link: Great Temple/Temple
- X: Tunnel Scene
- Ice Climber
- Mother: Porky’s Theme
- Sonic The Hedgehog: Angel Island Zone
- Pikmin: World Map

Series Represented

So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown:


1. Smash Brothers
2. Donkey Kong
3. StarFox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. EarthBound/Mother
8. Pokemon
9. Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. Ice Climbers
15. Animal Crossing
16. Wario
17. Metal Gear
18. Kid Icarus
19. ???
20. Sonic the Hedgehog
21. Nintendo DS
22. Pikmin

*22 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number

It seems that icons at least require a stage to exist, so just because an icon is out there doesn't nessecarily mean there's going to be a character featuring it.

Flippy_D

Forumer Contributions:

This section of the opening post will be dedicated to any forumer contributions made to this thread by way of creating something that will be helpful for organizing online play, the setup thereof, or sharing pertinent information such as user names and friend codes. In addition to this, there is now a portion explaining more advanced Smash terminology as well.


The Penny Arcade Super Smash Brothers Brawl Online Tournament List!
This is all organized courtesy of Nickle. It is planned to take place a week or two after the game comes out so people have a chance to practice. There are still plenty of spots available here if you want to sign up.

Here is the tournament list, which is more of a placeholder than anything else. People will have to reconfirm their desire to take part in the tournament when it arrives.

PM Nickle if you want to take part in this, there is no limit to how many users can join. Let's see if we can get this up to 128. Include your state (America) or province (Canada) please.

Last updated January 16th.

1. Nickle IL
2. Guek WA
3. BlueBlue MS
4. Speakeasy CA
5. TempleWolf MN
6. quovadis13 ON, CA
7. cloudeagle OK
8. Joshua368 SC
9. Djiem Canada somewhere, I think
11. Redfenix IL
12. Mntorankusu KY
13. Ronen NY
14. Phanman
15. Pata
16. shyguy NY
17. Sharp10r NC
18. LordNibbler NY
19. ruiisu FL
20. Behemoth WA
21. Bulbasaur ON, CA
22. MetaHybrid ON, CA
23. willmannyeatthat MA
24. ArcSyn NJ
25. Munkus Beaver
26. Shabutie CA
27. Brue CA
28. Arcibi KY
29. Squashua FL
30. urahonky OH
31. Aydr WA
32. Faustum TX
33. Fishguy NM
34. Khavall PA
35. Improvolone FL
36. Goatmon CA
37. Niceguyeddie616 MA
38. Reigner PA
39. Gino WI
40. Zealous One CA
41. Woot427 IL
42. Monsty ND
43. Gunwarrior (Maybe) CA
44. Taramoor WA
45. Captain Crunch BC, CA
46. Gorilla Salad TX
47. Snork CT/PA
48. Jrosey WA
49. Tehcoolryan CA
50. Atheraal
51. Toothy KY
52. JLM-AWP
53. Zimarooski TX
54. Yalborap
55. Jarhog
56. Rehab NE
57. Rollout MTL, QC, CA
58. Gravija IL
59. Aioua WA
60. Hylianbunny ON, CA
61. SkyGheNe CT
62. BahamutZERO CA
63. Vann Diras IN
64. No Great Name East Coast
65. AshtonDragon NL, CA
66. Bibble TN
67. InivisibleInk OR
68. aaronsedge AR
69. Mushroom Pie
70. Greg343 KS
71. Corp.Shephard NC
72. Kupi NC
73. Kor NM
74. TehSpectre KS
75. JustinChar99 FL
76. Godfather TX
77. Zen Vulgarity FL
78. Manetheren AL
79. mts CA
80. RedMageDarion ME
81. Tachyon CO
82. Zampano NH
83. Zek NJ
84. Inquisitor CA
85. Manaleak34 WA
86. Cloudman MO
87. mr_ekim CA
88. Ruins MD
89. ChopperDave
90. Qorzm CA
91. CaspianX CA
92. Fig-D CA
93. Spoof
94. Mtvcdm WI
95. Dusda OR
96. Geod VA
97. Red Gear NY
98. Mighty TX
99. Brokecracker IN
100. HylianZora OH
101. LightRider TX
102. PikaPuff
103. tony_important NS, CA
104. DasUberEdward OH
105. SoonerMan OK
106. Lagnar NS, CA
107. Rei NY
108. redfield85

Smash Brothers Community Terminology

This is a very thorough look at advanced Smash terms to help end confusion about them. ChopperDave wrote it and has this to say:

ChopperDave wrote: »

Whew, that took way longer than I thought it would

I wrote the first part of this guide myself, hopefully it does a decent enough job describing some of the most-confused terms. The other, lesser important terms I just lifted from a thread in Smashboards.

It's...long, so I've split it up over two posts. The first part is all most of you will want to read, anyway, the second part (from Smashboards) has got a lot of specific, kind of unnecessary terms. I deleted some of the MOST superfluous ones (BYOC = bring your own controller, for example :roll:), but for the most part it remains intact. By the way, if there's any terms I forgot to add or didn't describe effeciently, please let me know.

Without further ado...:

Here are Part 1 and Part 2 of the guide.

Here is something that could be considered Part 3 of the Smash Bros Terminology. It goes over common misconceptions about tournament players and seeks to help end the SmashBoards versus casual play arguments which always seem to pop up in these threads. Everyone should take a look at these discussions:

-Chopper Dave talks about the Penny Arcade/SmashBoards feud
-More talk about the competitive community by Chopper Dave
-Joshua368 which stages are banned in tournament play ... and explains why

Flash-based replica Brawl Stage Editor

This is a really cool page designed by mntorankusu, based around the Stage Creator update on the dojo. Here are some instructions and information.

mntorankusu wrote:

Hold Ctrl and roll over the grid to quickly select squares. Hold Shift to quickly deselect.

This is a fan-made stage editor based on the one in the upcoming game, Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Little is known about the in-game editor, so I don't make any guarantees that this one will produce stages anything like the real game. If there are any glaring inaccuracies, contact me at mntorankusu at gmail dot com.

Also, you probably shouldn't let things overlap the wide triangle piece if you want to be able to reproduce your stage in the game. It is too difficult to disallow it in this Flash editor, but I'm fairly certain you won't be able to overlap pieces in Brawl's.

You might not be able to rotate them in Brawl either. Try not to be too disappointed if it turns out the stages you create using the rotate feature can't be reproduced in Brawl.

Click here to play it. Here is an example of what you can do.

MetaHybrid wrote:

Customizable signatures that display user names and friend codes.

Here is something that mntorankusu and Geod have been working on, which will allow people to easily put their favorite character and friend code in a fancy signature to help organize things once the game comes out. It allows you to choose your name, character, icon, friend code, and color of character. This is what they look like:

mntorankusu wrote:

JackKieser

Woo hoo, new Smash thread! I wonder if this one will last until the Smash Bros. release, or if we'll need one more thread before then.

Flippy_D

I doubt this'll last the entire month until Feb 10th and the American release.

And chances are that the hype for the Japan release will blow this thread away :P

Who made the first one? They should probably have the honours of hosting the US release thread. Wasn't it Xenogears of Bore?

Monsty

JackKieser wrote: »

Woo hoo, new Smash thread! I wonder if this one will last until the Smash Bros. release, or if we'll need one more thread before then.

If any more characters are announced, you better believe there'll be another.

Infil

This one won't last a week!

Peewi

Elendil wrote: »

Speakeasy wrote: »

Xenogears of Bore wrote: »

I must go
My planet needs me...

Snake died on the way to his home planet

This is reference to that episode of Simpsons where Homer voices that new Itchy & Scratchy character, right?

RedMageDarion

I anticipate a lot of screaming GET TO DA CHOPPA when someone is playing Snake.

Jimothy

The Pikmin symbol needs to be added to the OP.

Flippy_D

Thanks Jim. Knew I'd miss something.

Edit: There are no factors of 22 except 2 and 11 augh

Faygo

Tonight is the 200th update i think which means only one thing. Two ryhmes with Poo. Poo is from the Snes game Earthbound a cult classic nintendo game just like Star Tropics. Mike Jones Tonight as playable!

Ultrachrist

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

redfenix

Hey OP, I'm in IL.

And still down for the tourney.

Flippy_D

You need to speak to Nickle.

Idx86

I literally went from having no interest in this game (having not played a SSB game) to having a high degree of interest for this. Getting really pumped now.

Xagarath

Has anyone whined about Snake's final smash blocking the screen for the other players?
Because I expect it sooner or later.

Idx86

Xagarath wrote: »

Has anyone whined about Snake's final smash blocking the screen for the other players?
Because I expect it sooner or later.

I was thinking the same thing. Is it possible that during the Final Smash the screen goes split? Hard to imagine Nintendo not anticipating something like that.

Jimothy

Xagarath wrote: »

Has anyone whined about Snake's final smash blocking the screen for the other players?
Because I expect it sooner or later.

No, but someone (Fyre, I think) pointed out how it forces everyone into a smaller area, therefore making he Final Smash more useful.

RidleySaria

Ultrachrist wrote: »

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

I think because he's one of Rare's more uninspired character designs. There's really nothing special about him..... just a bad Bowser rip-off. In fact, aside from Donkey and Diddy the whole DKC universe that Rare created is pretty bland.

Xagarath

RidleySaria wrote: »

Ultrachrist wrote: »

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

I think because he's one of Rare's more uninspired character designs. There's really nothing special about him..... just a bad Bowser rip-off. In fact, aside from Donkey and Diddy the whole DKC universe that Rare created is pretty bland.

Finally, a voice of reason.

GertBeef

Looks like snakes final smash will be the one true reason to turn off final smash moves in multiplayer matches.

Faygo

I always liked Cranky Kong though your right most of the DK world is boring. It made Giant Bees into memorable enemies more so than even the Kremlings. DKC is better than any of its indiviual parts for some reason.

Djiem

Xagarath wrote: »

RidleySaria wrote: »

Ultrachrist wrote: »

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

I think because he's one of Rare's more uninspired character designs. There's really nothing special about him..... just a bad Bowser rip-off. In fact, aside from Donkey and Diddy the whole DKC universe that Rare created is pretty bland.

Finally, a voice of reason.

Yes, except I'd like to add Cranky to the list of interesting characters. He certainly had personality, especially if you read the instruction manuals.

Faygo

Why are people so against Snakes Final Smash i heard because it blocks the view? It seems thats part of the advantage of it as it forces people to be in one area or risk being out of sight. Its no differant than the Nintendog assist.

freelancepolice

I think I misunderstand SSE slightly, does the story change depending on who you pick or do you just end up selecting whoever the level is assigned to?

Djiem

freelancepolice wrote: »

I think I misunderstand SSE slightly, does the story change depending on who you pick or do you just end up selecting whoever the level is assigned to?

The latter.

EDIT: As the story advances, each stage lets you choose between two characters. You play that particular stage with one of them.

Faygo

I dont think you pick a character at the start you just pick between ones as you progress.

Sharp10r

Jimothy wrote: »

Xagarath wrote: »

Has anyone whined about Snake's final smash blocking the screen for the other players?
Because I expect it sooner or later.

No, but someone (Fyre, I think) pointed out how it forces everyone into a smaller area, therefore making he Final Smash more useful.

Forget that, I'm gonna' hide behind Snake.

Ohtsam

Djiem wrote: »

freelancepolice wrote: »

I think I misunderstand SSE slightly, does the story change depending on who you pick or do you just end up selecting whoever the level is assigned to?

The latter.

EDIT: As the story advances, each stage lets you choose between two characters. You play that particular stage with one of them.

or both if you are playing co-op

kingmeh123

So that almightygoat guy? Yeah, his boss reveals today are a little out there.

Joshua368

Wah! This isn't Olimar information! This isn't Olimar information at all! Oh well, Sakurai still has Friday to redeem himself... and it's still a cool update regardless.

But my god... the butt... it's huge. It never goes away!


And yay, I can finally take a break from posting the updates. It's been over a month now.

Tairu

I still want to know how those communications come up in Shadow Moses Island.

Lars

So Snake's final smash managed to include a codec conversation, a Hind-D!, Snake's ass, and The Ladder. Yep, I'd say that about covers it.

DraXXXen

There is zero reason now not to set one of Snakes taunts to be 'Get to da CHOPPAH!!!', it's always polite in times of war to give a warning to your foes (several times, while yelling the same into their ears) before you Poom Poom Pooooooom them.

RedMageDarion

DraXXXen wrote: »

There is zero reason now not to set one of Snakes taunts to be 'Get to da CHOPPAH!!!', it's always polite in times of war to give a warning to your foes (several times, while yelling the same into their ears) before you Poom Poom Pooooooom them.

Also acceptable is a taunt that says: A HIND-D?!

Forever Zefiro

They really need to cut down on the intensity of Snake's ass

MinionOfCthulhu

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

They really need to cut down on the intensity of Snake's ass

It's like he's wearing nothing at all!

Ruins

More Pikmin info please.

EmperorSeth

Xagarath wrote: »

RidleySaria wrote: »

Ultrachrist wrote: »

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

I think because he's one of Rare's more uninspired character designs. There's really nothing special about him..... just a bad Bowser rip-off. In fact, aside from Donkey and Diddy the whole DKC universe that Rare created is pretty bland.

Finally, a voice of reason.

I don't know, I thought Dixie was kind of neat. Actually, Donky Kong 2 had a lot of inspired designs, thanks to the fairly consistent pirate theme. But then it plummeted with the damn bears and banana birds. Even K. Rool could still be relatively decent if they focus on his pirate-based attacks. Wait, nevermind, that might not work. I mean, he only used a musket to attack, and I guess that still counts under the "no real guns" rule, wouldn't it? Or is it old enough to get an exception?

Djiem

EmperorSeth wrote: »

Xagarath wrote: »

RidleySaria wrote: »

Ultrachrist wrote: »

There was some K. Rool hate being thrown around at the end of the last thread. What's up with that?? DKC2 K. Rool with his pirate getup and boomstick would be a pretty cool character.

I think because he's one of Rare's more uninspired character designs. There's really nothing special about him..... just a bad Bowser rip-off. In fact, aside from Donkey and Diddy the whole DKC universe that Rare created is pretty bland.

Finally, a voice of reason.

I don't know, I thought Dixie was kind of neat. Actually, Donky Kong 2 had a lot of inspired designs, thanks to the fairly consistent pirate theme. But then it plummeted with the damn bears and banana birds. Even K. Rool could still be relatively decent if they focus on his pirate-based attacks. Wait, nevermind, that might not work. I mean, he only used a musket to attack, and I guess that still counts under the "no real guns" rule, wouldn't it? Or is it old enough to get an exception?

Well, he threw huge-ass bullets, musket-whipped people and used it to throw himself around. I guess it could work in Brawl.

Timestones

It wasn't a musket. It was a blunderbuss. A blunderbuss that fired cannonballs, barrels, and ghosts.