I'm pretty sure the Windows drivers don't under clock, so pretty much the performance is what you get. I have the same machine (such a sad video card for the money...) and some games make it overheat and reboot (Doom 3 games do this, Oblivion usually runs for hours in a warm room lol), so if I were you I wouldn't sweat it.
You mean the website's founder (oh and ex reseller) decided to randomly post all of these rumours for the chance to get all the attention when the website is pretty much the website to go to for mac stuff in Australia?
Thanks for backing me into a corner, but yes. Some website founder isn't going to get priority information that say, a Walt Mossberg would get. A reseller isn't privy to too much sensitive information, especially something along the lines of a product line's debut in a continent and the gory details thereof.
I'm sorry but I am very leery of any Mac rumor because there are so damn many. I'll believe it once the announcement is out. There are sites that are the website to go to for Mac stuff worldwide and they often get rumors wrong. I don't see why an Aussie rumor site would be any different.
I have an early MBP, with the X1600 graphics card. I remember rumours about it being underclocked when they first came out. My question is now, what should I do to get optimum performance out of my machine for gaming?
I'm not really looking to overclock and risk heat damage or anything, I'm just wondering if there are optimised drivers or something that can squeeze out the best performance on my bootcamped machine.
I'd like to play Company of heroes for example.
look for console commands in the games you want to play to limit the fps generated. I think that's pretty much your only recourse for limiting heat generation.
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The really interesting thing though is if Apple is selling iPhones in Australia without any locks and stuff.
Could you just reflash an American iPhone to the australian settings and have a jail broken phone without actually jail breaking it?
As the only thing that is worrying me currently is the price for the Australian iPhone, I would probably look very closely at importing one if this is the case.
An unlocked phone is not a jailbbroken phone. "Locked" refers to carrier lock-in while "jailbreaking" refers to gaining access to the filesystem on the phone.
Alright so I ordered the default 2.4ghz MBP. I was debating whether to get the 7200rpm drive but it probably won't make a big enough difference, and if I want to upgrade myself they're only $150 (opposed to Apple's $90 which doesn't let me keep the old one).
Alright so I ordered the default 2.4ghz MBP. I was debating whether to get the 7200rpm drive but it probably won't make a big enough difference, and if I want to upgrade myself they're only $150 (opposed to Apple's $90 which doesn't let me keep the old one).
The 5400rpm will make your battery last longer anyway. If you end up needing to do video editing or something that needs a super fast disk you can get always get a firewire drive later.
Alright so I ordered the default 2.4ghz MBP. I was debating whether to get the 7200rpm drive but it probably won't make a big enough difference, and if I want to upgrade myself they're only $150 (opposed to Apple's $90 which doesn't let me keep the old one).
The 5400rpm will make your battery last longer anyway. If you end up needing to do video editing or something that needs a super fast disk you can get always get a firewire drive later.
When I was buying my Macbook Pro I googled the battery issue as much as I could.
What I found out was that the effect on battery life was marginal, and almost offset by shorter program loading times. I wouldn't factor that in to the purchase decision.
However, my shopkeeper told me that the MBPs with faster harddisks are upgraded, and thus not considered off the shelf. He said that it would take longer to get the computer, and that if it needs to be replaced, it would take longer for tech support to do it.
I decided on the 5k RPM drive, but that was because I couldn't wait the week it would've taken to buy the same machine with the 7k RPM drive.
Alright so I ordered the default 2.4ghz MBP. I was debating whether to get the 7200rpm drive but it probably won't make a big enough difference, and if I want to upgrade myself they're only $150 (opposed to Apple's $90 which doesn't let me keep the old one).
The 5400rpm will make your battery last longer anyway. If you end up needing to do video editing or something that needs a super fast disk you can get always get a firewire drive later.
When I was buying my Macbook Pro I googled the battery issue as much as I could.
What I found out was that the effect on battery life was marginal, and almost offset by shorter program loading times. I wouldn't factor that in to the purchase decision.
I read pretty much the same as well. The differences were something like half a watt during seek and idle.
MBP is a little much for now, im actually looking at an iMac.
There will be an iMac refresh soon enough. Well not "soon enough" for me as i've been waiting for it, but there will be one....soon.
Agreed. I would wait until WWDC to see if they get a bump. They traditionally don't get one there, but I would imagine there could be one by or around then.
Has anyone here been running Vista on their bootcamp partition? If so, any particularly positive/negative impressions? Have you had any driver issues, or does bootcamp seem to do a decent job at making sure everything goes pretty smoothly?
I have the opportunity to download Vista Pro for free through my college's MSDNAA agreement, and have been trying to decide whether or not I want to use it to replace my current XP bootcamp partition. I'm running on a Core Duo iMac with 2GB of RAM, so I think I'm safe as far as tech requirements go in order to run it semi-comfortably (and I won't be virtualizing it, so no worries there).
Has anyone here been running Vista on their bootcamp partition? If so, any particularly positive/negative impressions? Have you had any driver issues, or does bootcamp seem to do a decent job at making sure everything goes pretty smoothly?
I have the opportunity to download Vista Pro for free through my college's MSDNAA agreement, and have been trying to decide whether or not I want to use it to replace my current XP bootcamp partition. I'm running on a Core Duo iMac with 2GB of RAM, so I think I'm safe as far as tech requirements go in order to run it semi-comfortably (and I won't be virtualizing it, so no worries there).
I ran it just to check it out. I wasn't impressed but that's just what I think of Vista. From what I hear, for virtualization you want XP but for Boot Camp you want Vista.
So, uh. I specced a computer the same as a Mac Pro, and it came out to about a hundred dollars more than what Apple is charging.
what
question the 2nd: why do they lock you into such a ridiculous processor? and TWO of them by default? are they just trying really hard to keep the Mac Pro a "professionals-only" device? makes me sad! i don't really like the imac design (from a technical standpoint i think including the monitor in the computer is a flaw), and i can't imagine myself owning a mac pro any time soon because they have a dumbass powerful server-type processor. if they gave the option for like, the e6850, i think that would give a lot more people the opportunity to own a desktop style mac.
question the 3rd: is there any speculation as to if apple will ever let you upgrade the entirety of a mac pro? i don't really want to buy a desktop pc that i can't open up completely. i know they let you move around some of the stuff, but is there any mutterings of a better future, where they'll let you swap around the motherboard, video card, processor? i mean, that would kind of defeat the purpose of the whole mac philosophy of keeping the hardware level under easily manageable lockdown, but i can't see myself paying so much for a desktop that, when it goes obsolete, is impossible to upgrade. thoughts?
So, uh. I specced a computer the same as a Mac Pro, and it came out to about a hundred dollars more than what Apple is charging.
what
question the 2nd: why do they lock you into such a ridiculous processor? and TWO of them by default? are they just trying really hard to keep the Mac Pro a "professionals-only" device? makes me sad! i don't really like the imac design (from a technical standpoint i think including the monitor in the computer is a flaw), and i can't imagine myself owning a mac pro any time soon because they have a dumbass powerful server-type processor. if they gave the option for like, the e6850, i think that would give a lot more people the opportunity to own a desktop style mac.
question the 3rd: is there any speculation as to if apple will ever let you upgrade the entirety of a mac pro? i don't really want to buy a desktop pc that i can't open up completely. i know they let you move around some of the stuff, but is there any mutterings of a better future, where they'll let you swap around the motherboard, video card, processor? i mean, that would kind of defeat the purpose of the whole mac philosophy of keeping the hardware level under easily manageable lockdown, but i can't see myself paying so much for a desktop that, when it goes obsolete, is impossible to upgrade. thoughts?
The Mac Pro is what Apple would call a professional level machine. Hence the "Pro." The price actually isn't bad when comparing to workstations from other manufacturers.
They lock you into Xeons so they can charge you more. It also quite clearly differentiates the Pro from the iMac and mini.
Having multiple fast CPU cores can be nice. I can run multiple virtual machines without much of a performance hit. I can transcode multiple media files at once. It has ECC RAM which was cool. I had a couple sticks of bad RAM from OWC. I only knew they were bad by looking at system profiler which showed ECC errors. The machine didn't crash.
As for whether or not they'll let you upgrade the motherboard? I doubt it. The board they put in looks to have quite a customized layout so I doubt anyone else would sell it. It works quite well with their cooling solution. Theres only three fans (not counting power supply) and they're really quiet.
question the 3rd: is there any speculation as to if apple will ever let you upgrade the entirety of a mac pro? i don't really want to buy a desktop pc that i can't open up completely. i know they let you move around some of the stuff, but is there any mutterings of a better future, where they'll let you swap around the motherboard, video card, processor? i mean, that would kind of defeat the purpose of the whole mac philosophy of keeping the hardware level under easily manageable lockdown, but i can't see myself paying so much for a desktop that, when it goes obsolete, is impossible to upgrade. thoughts?
Answer: Apple offers a fully customizable Mac when hell freezes over. (well, the same was said prior the change to X86 base as well ) I would buy a Mac pro but being locked to a hand full of graphic card models is lame. Having a gaming capable machine which runs Linux, Windows and OSX would be a dream (no and I don't mean installing a modified copy of OSX on a non-Apple system).
man i don't even see the appeal of non-legit osx86 installs
if you can't get to that os by hitting the powerbutton on a mac pro what's the point
I can see the appeal for not shelling out money for a (new) mac and if you already have software for OSX.
The disadvantages are numerous: A simple upgrade can break the system or render parts of it unusable, features of your HW might be not supported, HW that isn't supported and/or not usable, possible crashes and instability - I wouldn't use that as productive system.
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
Dead simple. Just like your PC.
The Apple RAM tax is just rape. The only people that pony up for it don't know any better or have too much money.
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
Dead simple. Just like your PC.
The Apple RAM tax is just rape. The only people that pony up for it don't know any better or have too much money.
Awesome. I seriously can't wait. I used Macs in the past, and only switched due to work requirements. I can't wait to come home. I actually like Vista a lot, but, eh, there's something about Mac OS.
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
That's not a very good deal. Just say'n.
How can the price be less than half of the raw retail price, unassembled, and not be a good deal?
I am selling my hotrod gaming PC, and will be getting a MacBook Pro, instead. I am psyched! Nobody is bidding yet, though, even though it's an outrageously good deal.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
I have it on my wireless Al Keyboard. And the clover on Cmd, anf the up arrow on shift.
Yeah, the European keyboards have more symbols and fewer words on them for some reason (to be more language-neutral?). The U.S. keyboards only have the symbol on the Command key (that's the most recent decent picture of a U.S. Apple keyboard on Wikipedia).
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Thanks for backing me into a corner, but yes. Some website founder isn't going to get priority information that say, a Walt Mossberg would get. A reseller isn't privy to too much sensitive information, especially something along the lines of a product line's debut in a continent and the gory details thereof.
I'm sorry but I am very leery of any Mac rumor because there are so damn many. I'll believe it once the announcement is out. There are sites that are the website to go to for Mac stuff worldwide and they often get rumors wrong. I don't see why an Aussie rumor site would be any different.
look for console commands in the games you want to play to limit the fps generated. I think that's pretty much your only recourse for limiting heat generation.
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An unlocked phone is not a jailbbroken phone. "Locked" refers to carrier lock-in while "jailbreaking" refers to gaining access to the filesystem on the phone.
seriously won't change the spelling from US to Australian/UK.
That's because it's retard English. :P
The 5400rpm will make your battery last longer anyway. If you end up needing to do video editing or something that needs a super fast disk you can get always get a firewire drive later.
Also, they have ATI graphics.
When I was buying my Macbook Pro I googled the battery issue as much as I could.
What I found out was that the effect on battery life was marginal, and almost offset by shorter program loading times. I wouldn't factor that in to the purchase decision.
However, my shopkeeper told me that the MBPs with faster harddisks are upgraded, and thus not considered off the shelf. He said that it would take longer to get the computer, and that if it needs to be replaced, it would take longer for tech support to do it.
I decided on the 5k RPM drive, but that was because I couldn't wait the week it would've taken to buy the same machine with the 7k RPM drive.
There will be an iMac refresh soon enough. Well not "soon enough" for me as i've been waiting for it, but there will be one....soon.
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Agreed. I would wait until WWDC to see if they get a bump. They traditionally don't get one there, but I would imagine there could be one by or around then.
I have the opportunity to download Vista Pro for free through my college's MSDNAA agreement, and have been trying to decide whether or not I want to use it to replace my current XP bootcamp partition. I'm running on a Core Duo iMac with 2GB of RAM, so I think I'm safe as far as tech requirements go in order to run it semi-comfortably (and I won't be virtualizing it, so no worries there).
I ran it just to check it out. I wasn't impressed but that's just what I think of Vista. From what I hear, for virtualization you want XP but for Boot Camp you want Vista.
what
question the 2nd: why do they lock you into such a ridiculous processor? and TWO of them by default? are they just trying really hard to keep the Mac Pro a "professionals-only" device? makes me sad! i don't really like the imac design (from a technical standpoint i think including the monitor in the computer is a flaw), and i can't imagine myself owning a mac pro any time soon because they have a dumbass powerful server-type processor. if they gave the option for like, the e6850, i think that would give a lot more people the opportunity to own a desktop style mac.
question the 3rd: is there any speculation as to if apple will ever let you upgrade the entirety of a mac pro? i don't really want to buy a desktop pc that i can't open up completely. i know they let you move around some of the stuff, but is there any mutterings of a better future, where they'll let you swap around the motherboard, video card, processor? i mean, that would kind of defeat the purpose of the whole mac philosophy of keeping the hardware level under easily manageable lockdown, but i can't see myself paying so much for a desktop that, when it goes obsolete, is impossible to upgrade. thoughts?
The Mac Pro is what Apple would call a professional level machine. Hence the "Pro." The price actually isn't bad when comparing to workstations from other manufacturers.
They lock you into Xeons so they can charge you more. It also quite clearly differentiates the Pro from the iMac and mini.
Having multiple fast CPU cores can be nice. I can run multiple virtual machines without much of a performance hit. I can transcode multiple media files at once. It has ECC RAM which was cool. I had a couple sticks of bad RAM from OWC. I only knew they were bad by looking at system profiler which showed ECC errors. The machine didn't crash.
As for whether or not they'll let you upgrade the motherboard? I doubt it. The board they put in looks to have quite a customized layout so I doubt anyone else would sell it. It works quite well with their cooling solution. Theres only three fans (not counting power supply) and they're really quiet.
Answer: Apple offers a fully customizable Mac when hell freezes over. (well, the same was said prior the change to X86 base as well
if you can't get to that os by hitting the powerbutton on a mac pro what's the point
I can see the appeal for not shelling out money for a (new) mac and if you already have software for OSX.
The disadvantages are numerous: A simple upgrade can break the system or render parts of it unusable, features of your HW might be not supported, HW that isn't supported and/or not usable, possible crashes and instability - I wouldn't use that as productive system.
Also, a 4 GB (2x 2 GB) RAM kit that'll work with a MBP from Newegg is way, way cheaper than choosing 4 GB at buildtime. My only question: is it fairly easy to upgrade? I've upgraded RAM on PC laptops plenty of times, so basically just making sure you don't need a special tool or whatever to get in the case.
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Dead simple. Just like your PC.
The Apple RAM tax is just rape. The only people that pony up for it don't know any better or have too much money.
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That's not a very good deal. Just say'n.
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What would be Nvidias equivalent to the ATI Radeon 2600 (PRO)?
Would i be able to install more RAM on my own?
How much difference does the 4 inches from the 20 to the 24 actually make?
Yes you can.
The main difference is the resoltion. I tihnk 20" is enough for normal people though.
I just want to know what the up pointing arrow (different from the directional key). It's perplexed me and I can't seem to find it on my keyboard.
That's shift
Oh. They should really put that icon on the shift key. At least it's not on my MacBook.
How do you figure?
Or clarify it. Also, the alt / option key. Did that design actually exist on the key at some point?
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