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Texting on Phones (questions)

RevolutionaryRevolutionary Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
If I turned my phone off, got texted, and then turned my phone on, would I receive the message sometime after?

And, if for some reason I initially couldn't send a text (i.e. receiving phone was on but the network was being fuzzy), would that text be resent until it was received?

Cheers.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    It doesn't have anything to do with what service you have. SMS technology is pretty uniform across careers.

    Someone texts you while your phone is off: you get the message when you turn it on. Same with voicemail.

    You text someone but they can't receive it due to "network being fuzzy": depends on what you mean by that. If their phone has reception, they'll get it. If not, they'll get it next time they have reception.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    What? Seriously? Networks I've used don't. The SMS is 'held' by the carrier until your phone comes on and then you receive it.

    If you don't have a reception and are trying to send a text, the phone holds the text until it has a clear reception to send it.

    If the recipient has no reception the carrier will hold it until they do have one.

    Basically like emails. Sender and receiver don't have to be online for it to work. You can even compose offline and then have your email program send it later when you go online.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    Yeah, as others have said I think this is wrong. I have AT&T/Cingular and I've gotten texts that were sent while my phone was off.

    It won't report missed calls if the person didn't leave a voice mail (because the missed calls are actually tracked by the phone itself, not the service, but voicemail is stored by the service), but texts, voicemails, and other types of messages should come through once you turn your phone on.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    Daenris wrote: »
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    Yeah, as others have said I think this is wrong. I have AT&T/Cingular and I've gotten texts that were sent while my phone was off.

    It won't report missed calls if the person didn't leave a voice mail (because the missed calls are actually tracked by the phone itself, not the service, but voicemail is stored by the service), but texts, voicemails, and other types of messages should come through once you turn your phone on.

    Orange, in the UK, do a thing where even if you miss a call and they don't leave a message the network sends you a text message saying This number called but didn't leave a message.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Daenris wrote: »
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    Yeah, as others have said I think this is wrong. I have AT&T/Cingular and I've gotten texts that were sent while my phone was off.

    It won't report missed calls if the person didn't leave a voice mail (because the missed calls are actually tracked by the phone itself, not the service, but voicemail is stored by the service), but texts, voicemails, and other types of messages should come through once you turn your phone on.

    Orange, in the UK, do a thing where even if you miss a call and they don't leave a message the network sends you a text message saying This number called but didn't leave a message.

    You can also set this up for free on any phone in the US using Callwave.

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  • MinjaMinja Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    For my phone (I have T-mobile), if my phone is off when I receive a text, it will either come to me like a voicemail (like said previously) or I will find it under my text message options under "drafts" or something and it will ask me if I want to retrieve it. *shrug* Most of the time that only happens with really long texts or picture messages.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    My experience on this is from an international POV. Sorry if I didn't clarify--I was in the UK before Cingular/AT&T fully merged and before international service was readily available. It was also an extended period of time (4 months) before I was back "in range" of the US, so...I missed all the texts. I know I was sent messages, I didn't recieve any of them, though. But that was in 2005.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    So were you on like international roaming at the time or something? I'm not sure how it would work with roaming service, so it may not deliver them if you're roaming and the phone is off... don't know.

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  • RevolutionaryRevolutionary Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I think I have the answers I want, cheers for the help.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I wasn't roaming, I had no service. Shrug.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    My experience on this is from an international POV. Sorry if I didn't clarify--I was in the UK before Cingular/AT&T fully merged and before international service was readily available. It was also an extended period of time (4 months) before I was back "in range" of the US, so...I missed all the texts. I know I was sent messages, I didn't recieve any of them, though. But that was in 2005.

    They won't go international usually, but afaik messages get stored in the last tower you were near for a certain amount of time - not indefinite, but often several days, the length of time can vary with company - and then bounce to you when you resurface in the network. If you don't have an international-equipped phone though, they won't leave the region. Phone contracts here are more expensive if you want the international roaming option on all the time, or you can pay a few extra dollars for one or two billing periods of you're going OS.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    Yeah, if you have international roaming (most contract cell phones in the UK have it by default at no extra charge from my experience - although the cost of the calls are typically extortionate) text messages and answer phone messages will follow you abroad, but like phone calls, I'd imagine that messages would not be transmitted abroad if you didn't have international roaming activated. I'd imagine the networks are only going to hold them for so long before dumping them if you never check in though, that would seem like a practicality.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    I'd say that the smaller the country and the closer it is to other large jurisdictions, the more likely you are to get international stuff as default. We're a billion miles from anygoddamnwhere besides PNG, and no-one wants to call PNG.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    I'd say that the smaller the country and the closer it is to other large jurisdictions, the more likely you are to get international stuff as default. We're a billion miles from anygoddamnwhere besides PNG, and no-one wants to call PNG.

    Yeah, UK Cell networks naturally include the rest of Europe as international roaming as well, so it's pretty much a necessity for business and recreational users alike (how will I continue to gossip with my girl friends when I'm raving in Ibiza!?! eg). As a nation, we have a love affair with holiday phone bills that lead to crippling debt.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    I'd say that the smaller the country and the closer it is to other large jurisdictions, the more likely you are to get international stuff as default. We're a billion miles from anygoddamnwhere besides PNG, and no-one wants to call PNG.

    Yeah, UK Cell networks naturally include the rest of Europe as international roaming as well, so it's pretty much a necessity for business and recreational users alike (how will I continue to gossip with my girl friends when I'm raving in Ibiza!?! eg). As a nation, we have a love affair with holiday phone bills that lead to crippling debt.

    I always just pick up a local sim card. For example, it's cheaper to text the UK from India that it is to text the UK from within the UK... :|

    Operators will dump messages after a few days or a week or something. Some phones have an option to select how long your messages are valid for (up to the network maximum).

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Cingular went international (i.e. I suddenly had service) when I was 3 months into my 4 months excursion. I was in the austrian alps and suddenly had full bars. Does that have to do with me being near towers? I figured it was via satellite (?)

    But I mean, then it was anywhere from $1 to $3 per minute to call the US. I don't know what it is now.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Daenris wrote: »
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    Yeah, as others have said I think this is wrong. I have AT&T/Cingular and I've gotten texts that were sent while my phone was off.

    It won't report missed calls if the person didn't leave a voice mail (because the missed calls are actually tracked by the phone itself, not the service, but voicemail is stored by the service), but texts, voicemails, and other types of messages should come through once you turn your phone on.

    Orange, in the UK, do a thing where even if you miss a call and they don't leave a message the network sends you a text message saying This number called but didn't leave a message.

    You can also set this up for free on any phone in the US using Callwave.

    Or every phone ever made has "Missed Call: <number> at 9:19am Today"

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Daenris wrote: »
    In my experience with AT&T/Cingular, the answer to both of your questions is no. Sorry. Kinda sucks.

    Yeah, as others have said I think this is wrong. I have AT&T/Cingular and I've gotten texts that were sent while my phone was off.

    It won't report missed calls if the person didn't leave a voice mail (because the missed calls are actually tracked by the phone itself, not the service, but voicemail is stored by the service), but texts, voicemails, and other types of messages should come through once you turn your phone on.

    Orange, in the UK, do a thing where even if you miss a call and they don't leave a message the network sends you a text message saying This number called but didn't leave a message.

    You can also set this up for free on any phone in the US using Callwave.

    Or every phone ever made has "Missed Call: <number> at 9:19am Today"

    Yes... read up a bit in the quotes... we were talking about missed calls when you don't have service. I'm not sure if it's universal, but on mine and my wife's phones on AT&T/Cingular, if someone calls when we aren't in an area of service our phone does not display "Missed Call" because the call never actually reached the phone. If they left a voice mail of course we will get that when we're back in service, but there won't be any record in the phone of a missed call. This is what he was referring to.

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