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I was looking at the subscription rates for academic journals because one of my professors said they can cost thousands of dollars per year :shock: (apparently this is an institution, not a personal rate). On Cell's website, it said that students and employees of subscribing institutions qualified for a free print subscription. I signed up, and we'll see whether or not it actually works, but in the mean time, does anyone know of any other academic/scientific journals that offer free print subscriptions to students of subscribing insitutions?
I was looking at the subscription rates for academic journals because one of my professors said they can cost thousands of dollars per year :shock: (apparently this is an institution, not a personal rate). On Cell's website, it said that students and employees of subscribing institutions qualified for a free print subscription. I signed up, and we'll see whether or not it actually works, but in the mean time, does anyone know of any other academic/scientific journals that offer free print subscriptions to students of subscribing insitutions?
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, why do you need it in a print subscription? Most institutions that have subscriptions to scientific journals offer free online full-text versions of the articles.
Out of curiosity, why do you need it in a print subscription? Most institutions that have subscriptions to scientific journals offer free online full-text versions of the articles.
I don't. But I think it would be neat. And I'm somewhat of a poor student, so anything that helps immerse me a little more in my field is always appreciated.
You absolutely should not have to pay for any subscriptions as a student. You're already paying for subscriptions through your tuition fees. Your library should have them all available to you, and you should be able to log in at home as well. When you're an alumni, you should still have access to the major ones.
I am aware of the online access options. My school even has an agreement where if they don't subscribe to a journal that you want an article from, they will pay for you to purchase it (and these articles often cost about $25 a piece). The interface to access the available journals is very unwieldy though, and consequently I only use it when I absolutely have to for a research paper. It'd be nice to just have a hard copy around so that I could pick it up and look at some new developments when I had a free (and bored) moment. It would appear that the current system is not set up to foster that, as it seems many of you are completely satisfied with online access. I'm in the superminority here, I guess.
For what it's worth, my field is biology (generally), more specifically human/medical biology, and also possibly physiology. But whatevs, if it's a free journal, I'd probably be open to subscribing to it.
PubMed is about as good as it gets for your field, and you can sometimes get lucky through google scholar. Seriously though hardcopy is horribly wasteful and honestly not as convenient once you know how to use things like endnote.
I know this isn't really why you're asking about it, but you mentioned in your last post that your interface to access the journals is unwieldy and you don't enjoy using it to search for papers. If you go talk to the people at the reference desk in your library, they will help you look shit up and probably give you some pointers on how to search for, and find, what you're specifically looking for. I know I couldn't use our system very well until we had to go the library for a tutorial on the search program in one of my classes, and now it's all a lot easier to use.
Cell has a podcast, you can always do that. Also, I think Elsevier journals (like Cell) usually have some option to get headlines/titles emailed to you every week. I don't read many Elsevier journals, so I'm not too sure.
To keep up in the field, especially with biology, Science and Nature are invaluable. Nature's podcast, at least in 2005 when I last listened to it, is pretty good and informative. FYI. Science also does a nice job of summarizing relevant works for the previous week. Also, most libraries carry hard copies of these journals. I'd be really surprised if they didn't have a hard copy of Cell, either.
Also, I'm really confused by your gripes about the interface. What interface are we talking about? Don't you just go the journal's website and click on any papers you want to read? PubMed and ISI are useful for researching, but it sounds like you just feel like keeping up with the field in general, in which case just perusing the issues online should suffice.
Lastly, you should join the relevant professional organization, or at least see what they offer. Most of these societies send you some broad journal covering their field. I don't know about biology, but ACS, APS, and MRS all send me Chem News, Physics Today, and MRS Bulletin respectively. If you itemize your tax deductions, you can deduct the cost of joining the society as some sort of educational/professional development expense or something. I don't itemize so I'm not entirely sure.
Yeah, you should absolutely never be using Cell/etc's website, use Pubmed... they also let you save a pubmed search, and then send automatic e-mails daily/weekly with as new papers are published that meet your search criteria
Even though schools usually have an interface through the library, the journal should auto-detect your access if you're on the school's network, and your school should also have an off-campus thing set up as well (i.e., I can set firefox to access through a school proxy server, and then I just need to log in with my school id)
You can also set up RSS feeds for basically every major journal (I think PNAS is the only one I haven't done yet) where you can get set new articles/online pre-publications
Just out of curiosity, what field are you in? i'm currently doing a phd in genetics
Just out of curiosity, what field are you in? i'm currently doing a phd in genetics
I'm in my 5th year working on a BS in biology with an emphasis on human biology and a minor in organic chemistry and human physiology. Ultimately I'm trying to go to medical school
man hard copies of journals take up so much space. hell i have files full of printouts of single articles, if i had to have the enitre issue i would need a storage unit.
pubmed is fine and dandy for finding articles. see if your school has a dedicated link for it. at UC, we have one and by searching through it it recognizes you are from UC and gives permissions you wouldn't get if you just went through pubmed.
as far as never going through an individual journals page, thats retarded. i have several journals that i check all the time to see whats new. or if i am looking for a specific article, its much faster to find it through an arcive rather than searching on pubmed.
not knowing anything about you, but if searching for a journal article is that difficult, how do you expect to handle med school
PubMed is about as good as it gets for your field, and you can sometimes get lucky through google scholar. Seriously though hardcopy is horribly wasteful and honestly not as convenient once you know how to use things like endnote.
:^: Pub med is a great resource and occasionally ahead of the publishings themselves. If you travel to yoru library, it should have a shit-ton of scientific journals, all for you! ( and every other student )
In addition to what everyone has said above: the paper versions of journals are boring. If you're expecting to see incisive commentary or pretty pictures or something, you are mistaken. It is literally a verbatim copy of what you get online. You won't read it at all.
Perhaps you'd rather get a subscription to an academic magazine that handles your field? In Computer Science, there is Communications of the ACM, which deals with scholarly issues and scientific research, but presents it in a much less formal way (it even has pretty pictures!)
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Out of curiosity, why do you need it in a print subscription? Most institutions that have subscriptions to scientific journals offer free online full-text versions of the articles.
I don't. But I think it would be neat. And I'm somewhat of a poor student, so anything that helps immerse me a little more in my field is always appreciated.
For what it's worth, my field is biology (generally), more specifically human/medical biology, and also possibly physiology. But whatevs, if it's a free journal, I'd probably be open to subscribing to it.
To keep up in the field, especially with biology, Science and Nature are invaluable. Nature's podcast, at least in 2005 when I last listened to it, is pretty good and informative. FYI. Science also does a nice job of summarizing relevant works for the previous week. Also, most libraries carry hard copies of these journals. I'd be really surprised if they didn't have a hard copy of Cell, either.
Also, I'm really confused by your gripes about the interface. What interface are we talking about? Don't you just go the journal's website and click on any papers you want to read? PubMed and ISI are useful for researching, but it sounds like you just feel like keeping up with the field in general, in which case just perusing the issues online should suffice.
Lastly, you should join the relevant professional organization, or at least see what they offer. Most of these societies send you some broad journal covering their field. I don't know about biology, but ACS, APS, and MRS all send me Chem News, Physics Today, and MRS Bulletin respectively. If you itemize your tax deductions, you can deduct the cost of joining the society as some sort of educational/professional development expense or something. I don't itemize so I'm not entirely sure.
Even though schools usually have an interface through the library, the journal should auto-detect your access if you're on the school's network, and your school should also have an off-campus thing set up as well (i.e., I can set firefox to access through a school proxy server, and then I just need to log in with my school id)
You can also set up RSS feeds for basically every major journal (I think PNAS is the only one I haven't done yet) where you can get set new articles/online pre-publications
Just out of curiosity, what field are you in? i'm currently doing a phd in genetics
I'm in my 5th year working on a BS in biology with an emphasis on human biology and a minor in organic chemistry and human physiology. Ultimately I'm trying to go to medical school
pubmed is fine and dandy for finding articles. see if your school has a dedicated link for it. at UC, we have one and by searching through it it recognizes you are from UC and gives permissions you wouldn't get if you just went through pubmed.
as far as never going through an individual journals page, thats retarded. i have several journals that i check all the time to see whats new. or if i am looking for a specific article, its much faster to find it through an arcive rather than searching on pubmed.
not knowing anything about you, but if searching for a journal article is that difficult, how do you expect to handle med school
It's called working smarter instead of working harder. ;-)
Perhaps you'd rather get a subscription to an academic magazine that handles your field? In Computer Science, there is Communications of the ACM, which deals with scholarly issues and scientific research, but presents it in a much less formal way (it even has pretty pictures!)