It's easier for me to empathize with comic creators and editor in chiefs than the dudes who run networks or publishing houses because I know they're comic fans too, and I know they genuinely want to put out good product on top of putting out popular, cash generating products.
I mean, if it was just about the bottom line, Blue Beetle would've been axed ages ago.
Yeah, I'm sure Didio just wants to put out the best comics he can, but at the same time, we get these wonderful DC Nation articles every week written by some editor that are like "Man things sure are swell here at DC, and we've got really amazing stuff coming down the line! Just wait and see!" Meanwhile, creators seem genuinely disgruntled about the state of the company and sales slip more and more each month and the company's big flagship title debuts and is thoroughly trounced by the second issue of the opposition's big flagship title.
Yeah, I'm sure Didio just wants to put out the best comics he can, but at the same time, we get these wonderful DC Nation articles every week written by some editor that are like "Man things sure are swell here at DC, and we've got really amazing stuff coming down the line! Just wait and see!" Meanwhile, creators seem genuinely disgruntled about the state of the company and sales slip more and more each month and the company's big flagship title debuts and is thoroughly trounced by the second issue of the opposition's big flagship title.
It's important to remember that retailers just spent a year buying a shit-ton of COUNTDOWN and COUNTDOWN-related books - 70k copies of CD per week does not necessarily translate into 70k readers of CD. I'm guessing that retailers are looking at a whole lot of unsold stock, and they finally said, "Fuck this". It's certainly important to produce books that excite readers, but I'd argue that it's more important to produce books that excite the 2500-3000 comic shop owners that actually order the books.
Plus, Marvel has been more popular than DC, sales-wise, for what, 40 years?
-The Order is up for best new series. If it wins, maybe they can put they can put that on the one and only trade paperback that will ever come out.
It's coming out next month or August.
Yeah, I was just commenting on the irony of it being critically acclaimed and also cancelled.
God dammit it wasn't cancelled.
Fraction was given two options because he had to leave to write Iron Man. He could either let another writer take over or end it on his own terms, he picked the latter.
-The Order is up for best new series. If it wins, maybe they can put they can put that on the one and only trade paperback that will ever come out.
It's coming out next month or August.
Yeah, I was just commenting on the irony of it being critically acclaimed and also cancelled.
God dammit it wasn't cancelled.
Fraction was given two options because he had to leave to write Iron Man. He could either let another writer take over or end it on his own terms, he picked the latter.
Ohhhh. Okay.
I think I figure that anything of quality ends either because the story has run its course or because it has been cancelled.
This isn't really news, but it's not a question either, so I'm not sure what thread to best put this in. At any rate: Brian K. Vaughan is gonna be doing a signing at the Grand Central branch of Midtown Comics on June 26th. So, if you're in New York City, and like "Y the Last Man" or whatever, check it out.
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"The public doesn't want to see Catwoman for a while"
What the fuck? Fuck you, Dan.
I laughed so hard when I read it. I mean, for that story to be the DC Nation article the very same week Dixon's very public criticisms break... awesome!
Speaking of awesome, glad to see so much love for Cap, Daredevil and Cassady's work in the award nominations. Shame the only nod to Fraction was The Order.
i was thinking about that last night, actually. i wonder what marvel's plan was with this? they needed someone to take over for an A-list but notoriously late superstar writer, so they got a different notoriously late A-list superstar writer, but one who's long publicly admitted to hating superheroes. alright, i'm down.
but I will read them with gritted teeth and a furrowed brow
oh yeah, i'm gonna check it out definitely. but if he hadn't already written justice league, i would say this was the weirdest thing ellis has chosen to write based on what i've read him say before about superheroes.
but if he turns astonishing x-men into nextwave 2.0, i'll buy every issue.
edit- wow, "read him say" isn't right at all. "read he wrote"? "heard he wrote"? "read that he wrote"
yeah let's go with "read that he wrote"
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but I will read them with gritted teeth and a furrowed brow
oh yeah, i'm gonna check it out definitely. but if he hadn't already written justice league, i would say this was the weirdest thing ellis has chosen to write based on what i've read him say before about superheroes.
but if he turns astonishing x-men into nextwave 2.0, i'll buy every issue.
but I will read them with gritted teeth and a furrowed brow
oh yeah, i'm gonna check it out definitely. but if he hadn't already written justice league, i would say this was the weirdest thing ellis has chosen to write based on what i've read him say before about superheroes.
but if he turns astonishing x-men into nextwave 2.0, i'll buy every issue.
oh god Servo no
that is what I'm terrified of
haha
my worry would be more that he'd make it super gritty with new characters that have a lot of piercings and come and introduce cyclops to e-stim sex.
edit- and the internet
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i am fairly certain simnone bianchi could not draw next wave or a variant thereof.
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I mean, if it was just about the bottom line, Blue Beetle would've been axed ages ago.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Yeah, I was just commenting on the irony of it being critically acclaimed and also cancelled.
It's important to remember that retailers just spent a year buying a shit-ton of COUNTDOWN and COUNTDOWN-related books - 70k copies of CD per week does not necessarily translate into 70k readers of CD. I'm guessing that retailers are looking at a whole lot of unsold stock, and they finally said, "Fuck this". It's certainly important to produce books that excite readers, but I'd argue that it's more important to produce books that excite the 2500-3000 comic shop owners that actually order the books.
Plus, Marvel has been more popular than DC, sales-wise, for what, 40 years?
It's already got the first TPB out.
I am waiting on a HC with all the issues.
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"The public doesn't want to see Catwoman for a while"
What the fuck? Fuck you, Dan.
Supergirl! We don't want to see Supergirl for a while!
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Fraction was given two options because he had to leave to write Iron Man. He could either let another writer take over or end it on his own terms, he picked the latter.
This, essentially.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Ohhhh. Okay.
I think I figure that anything of quality ends either because the story has run its course or because it has been cancelled.
trades sell like hotcakes and they know it. fuck, whedon's astonishing run wasn't even over a month before the last trade was out.
I laughed so hard when I read it. I mean, for that story to be the DC Nation article the very same week Dixon's very public criticisms break... awesome!
Speaking of awesome, glad to see so much love for Cap, Daredevil and Cassady's work in the award nominations. Shame the only nod to Fraction was The Order.
are you saying that they would have started the Ellis stuff a few months ago?
because hahahahaha no way
but I will read them with gritted teeth and a furrowed brow
Wait, seriously?
oh yeah, i'm gonna check it out definitely. but if he hadn't already written justice league, i would say this was the weirdest thing ellis has chosen to write based on what i've read him say before about superheroes.
but if he turns astonishing x-men into nextwave 2.0, i'll buy every issue.
edit- wow, "read him say" isn't right at all. "read he wrote"? "heard he wrote"? "read that he wrote"
yeah let's go with "read that he wrote"
no, i'm saying that the schedule for the release of the book would have been the same.
oh god Servo no
that is what I'm terrified of
If Giant Size had been on time it would have come out like 2 months ago and the trade would have still come out now
so it wouldnt have been directly on the heels of the actual issue
haha
my worry would be more that he'd make it super gritty with new characters that have a lot of piercings and come and introduce cyclops to e-stim sex.
edit- and the internet
Also, he looks really freaking old.
i assume by "shakespearean" here he means "falstaffian"