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Clothing/Fashion help.

DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
edited January 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
ok so I would love some tips/ help with some Fashion and Clothing ideas. I got some new clothes for christmas from some friends and my brother and it got me thinking a few things. The stuff I got was actually pretty awesome and fit me well. The thing I noticed is that I felt better about myself and more confident because I felt I looked good in the stuff I got.

I am basically in the neighborhood for some advice on what to look for, for clothing. I'm into the punk/skater style and feel it fits me pretty well. I haven't actively gone looking for stylish clothing in a couple years now so the stuff I got for the holiday was a breath of fresh air pretty much. What kinds of stuff should I be looking for? what types of shirts would actively go well with what kinds of pants? stuff like that. Are there any online stores to look into? I

I wanna get more stuff that I can feel good wearing and be able to present myself better and stand out a little more. I also gotta work on getting a decent hair cut :P but that's simply a matter of time and finding a good stylist. With clothing though, I know what looks good to me, but that may not necessarily be what looks good *on* me to everyone else. I'm not looking to please everyone else, but I am looking to present myself the way I want to be presented and feel good about doing so.

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  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well fashion is an interesting subject that I happen to have a decent understanding of in respect that I went through a similar transformation recently.

    So you want to stand out a little more. That's good. I find that the clothes you wear should make you feel confident about yourself personally. What I've found also works is choosing an ensemble that's slightly different then everyone else. I tend to look at other men and ask myself, does this guy look like he's getting laid? If the answer is yes, I take the general idea of the ensemble and see if it suits me.

    If you would like a more detailed opinion and feel comfortable posting a picture or a general description of yourself, I might be able to provide more insight.

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=41501

    Ask those guys, but, also head out shopping with a female friend. Most girls just know their stuff, atleast they have more of an idea than we do. Most of the time anyway.

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  • NrthstarNrthstar Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Thrifting is the natural choice for my friends and I, but most of the time I can't find everything I need that fits me well (I'm a 6'4" 220 lb dude, finding slim fitting stuff that actually works is rare.)

    But I start out at the thrift store, find a few things and then go shopping to find stuff that'll finish the look off. One of my favorite places to go is Urban Outfitters, especially this time of the year. I went there last year during valentines day and they had tons of badass sales. Otherwise it's a bit expensive.

    My buddy wore this to the last show though from there...
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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    if I were going with punk attire, what kind of pants am I looking for? I have a few good ideas I think for shirts and that type of thing (I picked up a really cool thin hoodie with stylish graffiti on it) and I was thinking that denim jeans really aren't the way to go. I'm personally kinda sick of Denim. Any thoughts?

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    if I were going with punk attire, what kind of pants am I looking for? I have a few good ideas I think for shirts and that type of thing (I picked up a really cool thin hoodie with stylish graffiti on it) and I was thinking that denim jeans really aren't the way to go. I'm personally kinda sick of Denim. Any thoughts?

    Take a look at pics of bands on stage playing the type of music style you want to dress to.

    Copy them.

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  • FofamitFofamit Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Okay personally I am not a huge fan of the skater punk look.. I believe only certain people can pull it off >_>;

    So here are some of my fashion tips (I take my girlfriends shopping and pick out their clothes as a note <_<)

    You're age: Dress your age! If you're around your 20s... try to tone down your radical punk / skater look. It's good to invest in clothing that will last. So try to avoid certain fashion trends.

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    Pants: I don't know about you, but wearing pants that have your boxers showing isn't something people want to look like. Nothing more amusing that watching a guy running and tripping over his own half down pants. Get pants that are right for you.

    Denim is basically your best friend (pant wise), depending on your overall look a dark wash or a light wash might be more appropriate. However with Jeans there are three different types of styles. BOOT CUT, STRAIGHT LEG and SKINNY. Without knowing your body type, you will have to try each type on to figure out what is good for you. However most expensive jean stores such as Jean Machine will help you in such details.

    "How can I tell which is which?" you might ask. Well to identify STRAIGHT LEG jeans you simply fold the bottom of the pant to the knee of the pant; if the width is even then it's a straight cut, if it's larger then it is a boot cut and finally if it's smaller then it is a skinny pant.

    Generally with these tips apply to all pants.... Also depending on how much of a gut you have will depend on what type of rise you will wear. So if you have a massive gut... you wouldn't be wearing a low rise pant.

    Another thing to add specifically to jeans, check to see how it fits in the back area (aka your butt), make sure the pockets don't make your butt look flat, so basically if the pocket extents much further down your leg than your butt does... it's no good.

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    Shirts: With shirts you will always try stuff on to see how it looks, however unless you are very fit or very skinny you will want to stay away from horizontal lines.

    With button down shirts check to see if there is special stitching on the sides, if there is this will make you look slimmer than you actually are by taking in your waist. Horizontal stripes such as pinstriped shirts do the same thing.

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    Outerwear: Hoodies, suit jackets, blazers and jackets always make a look, look more complete. Basically try to follow the same rules as you do with shirts, however with outerwear you will want to stick with more neutral colors.

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    Shoes: Just don't get box toed shoes

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    Color schemes: Okay with pants you want to stay with Neutral colors such as black, brown, and any denim pant is usually a good neutral as well

    With outerwear try to stay with a neutral color scheme as well

    With your tops, this is where you can get creative with your colors, just remember you don't have to match colors, it just has to go together.


    And one last important thing, you pay for what you get. You buy cheap jeans, you look like you are wearing cheap jeans.

    Another note, if you have TLC... watch "What Not to Wear", even though they mainly have women on, most of the same tips apply to men as well.

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  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Do you have a picture of yourself you'd be willing to post? If not, a description of what you look like/you age/your job, etc? I'm a girl. I can try to help you out. :)

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Do you have a picture of yourself you'd be willing to post? If not, a description of what you look like/you age/your job, etc? I'm a girl. I can try to help you out. :)

    Yeah, I had a similar thread a while back, and got lots of good feedback when I posted pics, so that may help out.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Do you have a job, or is it more of a career? Get points on both sides by dressing for the next position up in your workplace. Disregard this advice if you are an assistant crack whore.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm a 25 year old college grad, and my advice to you is to go into a Banana Republic. Take a look around at what they have to offer and what styles they are selling. Then, go to Macy's and buy the same styles of stuff, but at a much more affordable price.

    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

    I just wonder, what are you getting from a pair of 200 dollar jeans that you aren't getting from a pair of 50 dollar jeans? If I pay 250 buck for a pair of pants they better be made out of fucking unicorn hide or some shit.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

    I just wonder, what are you getting from a pair of 200 dollar jeans that you aren't getting from a pair of 50 dollar jeans? If I pay 250 buck for a pair of pants they better be made out of fucking unicorn hide or some shit.

    Nothing of any real value.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    well

    there's a point where price becomes price for the sake of price. pricepricepriceprice

    but i believe that a decent pair of $100 that will last you longer is better than 2 pairs of $50 pants.

    i own both of those varieties - i have my AE jeans that are right in the $50 range, and then i have my lucky brand jeans, which are $100 and sexy.

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  • jthmjthm Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I occasionally rock a punkish look - not necesarrily full blown, but edgy in it's own right.

    Pants you can do plaid bondage, old shredded jeans, black cotton pants w/o pleats or whatever strikes your fancy. It's not necessarily the major pieces of clothing that make it a punk look, its the accessories. I have a pair of hugo boss dress pants and a lacoste polo that I turn into a punk outfit with a little effort.

    Your key elements are going to be : collars, wristbands, wallet chain, belts (studded or big buckle, or both), and suspenders. Hair, piercings, and tattoo's all help things along, but thats a matter of personal preference coupled with confidence. I have pretty heavy arm tattoos, a mohawk, and used to have 4g horseshoes (curse you keloid!) so it's a little easier for me to come across as a punker. Thick horizontal stripes seem to be in right now (think Freddy Kreuger shirt) so you can go that route.

    Footwear basically boils down to chucks, and steel toed skullcrackers. Start with the chucks as they are cheap - and if you go deeper into the punk scene be prepared to spend a lot for a pair of serious boots. Doc's and Grinders are pretty standard, and 12 holes minimum.

    Lastly - attitude is important when wearing this kind of clothing. If you arn't sure of yourself, or feel somewhat awkward you probably shouldn't get too wild with your choices.

    Good luck.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    well

    there's a point where price becomes price for the sake of price. pricepricepriceprice

    but i believe that a decent pair of $100 that will last you longer is better than 2 pairs of $50 pants.

    i own both of those varieties - i have my AE jeans that are right in the $50 range, and then i have my lucky brand jeans, which are $100 and sexy.

    So you're saying that a $100 pair of jeans, just by the virtue of them costing that much, will last twice as long as a $50 pair of jeans. That's interesting.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    well

    there's a point where price becomes price for the sake of price. pricepricepriceprice

    but i believe that a decent pair of $100 that will last you longer is better than 2 pairs of $50 pants.

    i own both of those varieties - i have my AE jeans that are right in the $50 range, and then i have my lucky brand jeans, which are $100 and sexy.

    So you're saying that a $100 pair of jeans, just by the virtue of them costing that much, will last twice as long as a $50 pair of jeans. That's interesting.

    Therein lies the value of knowing how to shop. You can find durable jeans with a good cut for less than $100, you just have to know how, where and sometimes when to look for them. Which I don't know how to explain, I learned from my mom who is an expert shopper and so it kind of just happens. Outlet-malls are pretty killer. End-of-season sales, too.

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  • DaricDaric Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I don't know if it's a faux pas to post a SA link or not but these guys really know what they're talking about.

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    well

    there's a point where price becomes price for the sake of price. pricepricepriceprice

    but i believe that a decent pair of $100 that will last you longer is better than 2 pairs of $50 pants.

    i own both of those varieties - i have my AE jeans that are right in the $50 range, and then i have my lucky brand jeans, which are $100 and sexy.

    So you're saying that a $100 pair of jeans, just by the virtue of them costing that much, will last twice as long as a $50 pair of jeans. That's interesting.

    Therein lies the value of knowing how to shop. You can find durable jeans with a good cut for less than $100, you just have to know how, where and sometimes when to look for them. Which I don't know how to explain, I learned from my mom who is an expert shopper and so it kind of just happens. Outlet-malls are pretty killer. End-of-season sales, too.

    i'm just saying that for $100 and a good store you know that you're probably going to get a more durable pair of jeans, as opposed to shopping for jeans at Old Navy

    wouldn't you agree with this? i think it's a reasonable thing to do, to have a nice pair of pants/a couple nice pairs of pants, for going out or whatever.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    well

    there's a point where price becomes price for the sake of price. pricepricepriceprice

    but i believe that a decent pair of $100 that will last you longer is better than 2 pairs of $50 pants.

    i own both of those varieties - i have my AE jeans that are right in the $50 range, and then i have my lucky brand jeans, which are $100 and sexy.

    So you're saying that a $100 pair of jeans, just by the virtue of them costing that much, will last twice as long as a $50 pair of jeans. That's interesting.

    Therein lies the value of knowing how to shop. You can find durable jeans with a good cut for less than $100, you just have to know how, where and sometimes when to look for them. Which I don't know how to explain, I learned from my mom who is an expert shopper and so it kind of just happens. Outlet-malls are pretty killer. End-of-season sales, too.

    i'm just saying that for $100 and a good store you know that you're probably going to get a more durable pair of jeans, as opposed to shopping for jeans at Old Navy

    And I'm saying "not enough information". There's no reason to pay that kind of price for jeans unless it's somehow important that you be wearing a particular label, and if it is then I don't envy your lifestyle.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

    I just wonder, what are you getting from a pair of 200 dollar jeans that you aren't getting from a pair of 50 dollar jeans? If I pay 250 buck for a pair of pants they better be made out of fucking unicorn hide or some shit.

    Nothing of any real value.

    Not true. First, they're made of much higher quality material and with much better craftsmanship (think cheap suits vs. tailored ones). Second, the fit of the jeans is very specific. Someone who buys Diesels may not fit into a pair of Paper Denim. They're not made like your Levi's.

    Just go to a Nordstroms and check it out. The sales people there are very helpful and can give you an idea of what will fit your body type.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    oh man I'm gonna get E beat for this pic, but here's me:

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    I like the shirt, even if it looks terrible on me. Anyways, that's me.

    that help any for my help needed?

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I never got that mixture of hiphop and skate culture.

    It wasn't my thing.

    But I know a place for good rock attire if you're into it.

    Check out lucky brand jeans, they have some awesome shirts, amazing pants, and the people who work there know there shit. My friend manages one in SF and he knows more about fashion then pretty much any girl I know.

    But they're pricey, 40 buck shirts, 100+ jeans.

    And despite what VC says, you can really feel, see, and tell the difference when you're wearing jeans that are pricier. That's not to say cheaper jeans suck, I wear mostly american eagle, and I love them. But my Luckies are so much more comfortable and stylish.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

    I just wonder, what are you getting from a pair of 200 dollar jeans that you aren't getting from a pair of 50 dollar jeans? If I pay 250 buck for a pair of pants they better be made out of fucking unicorn hide or some shit.

    Nothing of any real value.

    Not true. First, they're made of much higher quality material and with much better craftsmanship (think cheap suits vs. tailored ones). Second, the fit of the jeans is very specific. Someone who buys Diesels may not fit into a pair of Paper Denim. They're not made like your Levi's.

    Just go to a Nordstroms and check it out. The sales people there are very helpful and can give you an idea of what will fit your body type.

    You're right, it is the same thing with a suit. At a certain point you start paying for the designers name on your suit.

    Also I have news for you about jeans. They're made of denim. They're all made of denim. They're all held together with stitching and often rivets. Unless you're the hulk or stab yourself alot you won't be ripping up denim anytime soon.

    And the fit? Jeans are made out of a few pieces of fabric, there are only so many different ways to cut them. Are you really unable to find a pair of Levis that fit your apparently freakishly unusual legs? They have a zillion different damn cuts.

    I'm looking on Diesels website and they have jeans for 300 dollars. If you are spending $300 on a pair of jeans, you need to have your head examined.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    A punk-rocker who wears $300 jeans is a poser or a sellout, not a punk-rocker.

    Edit: Case in point; Avril Lavigne wears designer jeans.

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  • NrthstarNrthstar Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    all the materials are the same, but the lines are slightly different. That said, I've always been happy with some Levi's slim/straights. 25 bucks on sale or at their outlets, 40 bucks in a place like sears. And they're jeans, so you don't need like 10 pairs. In a week (when I'm not in business casual for work...) I wear the same 3 pairs of jeans over and over again. I am a "dirty scene" guy though. I spend at least 2 months of my year in a van with other dirty men/women. You get used to wearing the same jeans over and over again when on tour.

    Edit* Can you really be a sell out when you weren't anything else to begin with?

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Nitsuj82 wrote: »
    Jeans-wise, buy the good ones. They will cost you anywhere form $80-250, but they'll be worth it.

    I just wonder, what are you getting from a pair of 200 dollar jeans that you aren't getting from a pair of 50 dollar jeans? If I pay 250 buck for a pair of pants they better be made out of fucking unicorn hide or some shit.

    Nothing of any real value.

    Not true. First, they're made of much higher quality material and with much better craftsmanship (think cheap suits vs. tailored ones). Second, the fit of the jeans is very specific. Someone who buys Diesels may not fit into a pair of Paper Denim. They're not made like your Levi's.

    Just go to a Nordstroms and check it out. The sales people there are very helpful and can give you an idea of what will fit your body type.

    You're right, it is the same thing with a suit. At a certain point you start paying for the designers name on your suit.

    Also I have news for you about jeans. They're made of denim. They're all made of denim. They're all held together with stitching and often rivets. Unless you're the hulk or stab yourself alot you won't be ripping up denim anytime soon.

    And the fit? Jeans are made out of a few pieces of fabric, there are only so many different ways to cut them. Are you really unable to find a pair of Levis that fit your apparently freakishly unusual legs? They have a zillion different damn cuts.

    I'm looking on Diesels website and they have jeans for 300 dollars. If you are spending $300 on a pair of jeans, you need to have your head examined.

    There's this thing called thread count. Go check it out and then tell me that all jeans are the same. Better yet, go to Nordstroms or Macy's and go feel the difference for yourself. Levi's are WAY thinner and the washes seem less durable than in the more expensive jeans. There's no doubt you're paying for the name, but it's also a matter of economies of scale (less people fit into them, therefore less people can buy them...gotta make a profit somewhere).

    Also, the fit is determined by the design, which is different in more expensive jeans. I wasn't trying to make a jab at Levi's. I own a couple of pairs that I wear quite regularly. However, they're made to fit the common denominator. I'm 6'5, 240lbs. Evidently, most people are either shorter or skinnier than I am, so I DO have to spend a bit more to get jeans that fit well.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    The question becomes whether the difference in materials is both significant enough and practically-valuable enough to justify spending an extra $200 that could be spent on bigger things than pants.

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  • Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The question becomes whether the difference in materials is both significant enough and practically-valuable enough to justify spending an extra $200 that could be spent on bigger things than pants.

    That's up to you though. that has nothing to do with the actual value of the pants. At that point, it's more of a question of utility.

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