Also, the death of Shmups like R-Type and Gradius and Axelay. I miss some good old fashioned shmups, nothing too crazy hard but nothing extremely easy either.
Dude, the XBLA, PSN and VC have seen an amazing wealth of new shmups and older classics getting a new lease on life, and all for $5 to $10 each. Hell, I think Geometry Wars pretty much revived Robotron-clone twin-stick shooters on its own. It's possibly the best time in the world to be a shmup fan!
oh? good news indeed then I forgot cause well, my 360's not online
I'd stil like a new R-Type, come on Irem! Final was good but let's see a super bad ass revival of R-Type!
XBLA is awesome, especially if you like shmups. Omega Five is like the love child of R-Type and Forgotten Worlds. Geo Wars and the Mutant Storm games (Empire is the more recent and IMO better one) are beautiful Robotron clones, and Heavy Weapon is also great for four-player online coop madness in a bullet-hell like environment.
ooh cool I'll have to commandeer the room with the net setup tomorrow.
I think Zombie is saying that gaming used to pander to certain types of people. Nowdays it's doing it's damnedest to appeal to everyone, and it's working. Nowadays, being a gamer doesn't really mean anything because a gamer can be anybody, and it doesn't create common ground between gamers like it used to.
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For me, the saddest day of my life was either when some kid asked me what a Sega Megadrive was, or the day a different kid asked me what a Nintendo 64 was.
I get a little sad when I realize I have yet to finish a game.
My main problem is that I consume different media in phases, and always start a new game when I get back to gaming. It doesn't help that I like story driven games.
I also wish some of the things that Sega tried to do with the dreamcast would have been picked up by the other machines. The controler had a little Memory cardthingy that had a video screen on it, this made picking plays on a football game super secret squirl type, I think this added so much more gameplay that I hope will return again.
In one of its multiplayer modes the Wiimote speaker rang like a cellphone. You pushed A and put it up against your ear.
Then, each of the four players was given an objective.
"Kill Player 2"
"Defend Player 1 for 90 seconds"
"Kill someone with a grenade"
"Stay alive for 90 seconds with the Body Armor"
etc...
seriously im worried. these are truly the end of days. duke nukem forever is coming out, and the best nintendo ds game on the horizon is a sonic the hedgehog rpg by bioware.
Seeing my old gaming clan go our separate ways due to family and real life issues, It's tough when you play games with people for years get to know them and then everyone's scattered to the wind. There was nothing more fun that filling up roger wilco and getting our frag on as one unit.
This.
Also arcades were fucking money pits and I don't miss them at all actually.
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I think Zombie is saying that gaming used to pander to certain types of people. Nowdays it's doing it's damnedest to appeal to everyone, and it's working. Nowadays, being a gamer doesn't really mean anything because a gamer can be anybody, and it doesn't create common ground between gamers like it used to.
Thank you, that's a very good way of putting it. What bothers me more than anything else is Spike and G4 really pushing hard to make it a mainstream thing when it will happen naturally if it's meant to, like music and movies.
Hucksterism and pandering are natural. I'm sure music and movies did everything they could to speed adoption. I'm not saying that most of the gaming content I've seen isn't sad (On Topic!), but business generally wants the most people possible to buy what they sell.
Seeing my old gaming clan go our separate ways due to family and real life issues, It's tough when you play games with people for years get to know them and then everyone's scattered to the wind. There was nothing more fun that filling up roger wilco and getting our frag on as one unit.
This.
Also arcades were fucking money pits and I don't miss them at all actually.
When an arcade is done RIGHT, it's awesome.
And what makes it awesome is stuff like fighting games and co-op games. Where you end up toe to toe or back to back with a total stranger, your quarters on the line, fighting for your virtual life.
A sad moment for me is when I realised I love games using the infinity ward engine but really really suck at them. I mean, I just barely scraped every battle in planescape, and despite putting the game on Novice in Baldurs Gate II it still took me like hours to clear that mage/thief woman's family keep, with regular rests in between battles. I'm not sure if I really suck, maybe I need to be more levelled, maybe there are game mechanics in there I'm not exploiting or maybe some twisted combo of all of the above. But I always come back for the amazing stories
And what makes it awesome is stuff like fighting games and co-op games. Where you end up toe to toe or back to back with a total stranger, your quarters on the line, fighting for your virtual life.
I hear what you're saying... but a lot of the time, that total stranger smelled like cat piss and the arcade manager was busy eye-raping your girlfriend. There's something to be said for being able to enjoy a game at home with just your friends and not the teeming masses.
I don't know, it just seems like there's a lot of people out there right now that are really quick to label themselves a gamer just because they've played a game before.
That's basically the statement I was referring to. Also the generalizing of people who play Halo and Madden as "frat boys." That all comes off as rather elitist to me.
You're exaggerating what he said. "You can find frat boys playing Halo or Madden" in no way equates a generalization of everyone that plays those games.
I guess my sad moment is the current state of online gaming, at least with consoles (I don't really use my comp for gaming). Instead of forming a larger community that enriches the experience, the majority of the time playing with random people just gets you exploitation of glitches and cheap moves, not to mention completely rude people. It might be a bad example, but I really enjoyed MPH online and could definitely hold my own against alt-spammers and all that, but once everyone turned to shadow freezing and wall glitches the game just soured.
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I don't know, it just seems like there's a lot of people out there right now that are really quick to label themselves a gamer just because they've played a game before.
That's basically the statement I was referring to. Also the generalizing of people who play Halo and Madden as "frat boys." That all comes off as rather elitist to me.
You're exaggerating what he said. "You can find frat boys playing Halo or Madden" in no way equates a generalization of everyone that plays those games.
I guess my sad moment is the current state of online gaming, at least with consoles (I don't really use my comp for gaming). Instead of forming a larger community that enriches the experience, the majority of the time playing with random people just gets you exploitation of glitches and cheap moves, not to mention completely rude people. It might be a bad example, but I really enjoyed MPH online and could definitely hold my own against alt-spammers and all that, but once everyone turned to shadow freezing and wall glitches the game just soured.
I am 100% with you on this complaint. I am a PC gamer by default (and by history), but made the translation to console gaming when I decided I was no longer able to keep up in the video card race. Needless to say, a good chunk of my online playing time is now done on 360 with some games on PS3 and PC as well (TF2).
I cannot give enough negative feedback for LIVE and its community. Everytime I go online and play with people whom I do not know personally, I have terrible experiences. At the best, I hear a 12-year old and a 23-year old insult each other with racist and homophobic slurs. At the worst, I have kids SCREAMING into microphones while glitching through walls and exploiting every possible line of bad code in the game. On the few times I have called people on this, I have been insulted and then had to listen to a rant about how "TEH WALLHAK IZ IN TEH GAME!!!111 ITS PART OF THE GAME! THE MLG DOES IT 2! ITS MLG RULEZ!"
Example: I stopped playing Gears because a clan of kids were sliding around the map so you couldn't hit them and they were also sniping through walls. When I politely asked them to stop cheating, their defense was that Major League Gaming allows these glitches and therefore it is okay to do. As though MLG is the authority in fairness. They then commenced to double their cheating efforts and call my friends and I "gay faggots."
The worst thing about LIVE right now is how after Christmas, the stability of the servers has been very shaky. I've given up playing Call of Duty 4 until they iron out the kinks because people are jumping forward due to lag and then the host ends the match about 40 seconds in.
I just feel so out of place in the current online gaming community. Everyone is either a shit-mouthed kid or an oversexed frat boy.
That being said, Team Fortress 2 for the PC has become my shining beacon in the dark for online gaming. Everyone is nice and enthusiastic - especially in the PA servers. It's the reason I still have hope for online gaming.
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A bunch of stuff about online gaming being a depraved wasteland of fucking xeno/homophobic shit-stupid kids.
God yes. This is the thing I hate the most.
Like when I rented CoD4 for the PS3 the other day just to check it out and my first online match is full of 13 year old suburbanite 'thugz' talking about how they 'grow marijuana and so high fo realz'. Naturally they all head headsets because the things are fucking expensive and it isn't their damn money, I'm sure.
We need to colonize other planets so I can leave this one. Seriously.
Going to see Shaun of the Dead in the cinema with my now ex-girlfriend. A brief snippet of Ed playing TimeSplitters 2 is shown on screen. From behind me I hear smoe moron say, "Hey, bruv! They're playin' Halo!"
The saddest moment in gaming for me was, quite a few years ago, when I first realised we had reached an age where being new to a game meant you were subject to a fucking parade of insults (occaisionally, in some type of world chat if you happen to be playing an mmo) before anybody would offer any help or advice. This is something that has just gotten worse and worse as years have gone by.
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A sad moment for me is when I realised I love games using the infinity ward engine but really really suck at them. I mean, I just barely scraped every battle in planescape, and despite putting the game on Novice in Baldurs Gate II it still took me like hours to clear that mage/thief woman's family keep, with regular rests in between battles. I'm not sure if I really suck, maybe I need to be more levelled, maybe there are game mechanics in there I'm not exploiting or maybe some twisted combo of all of the above. But I always come back for the amazing stories
Don't blame yourself. I'm a HUGE Planescape fan, and I'll be the first to say that the combat is shit in almost every instance. Really, the only way to get through any of the later fights without running away is becoming a unstopable melee juggernaut, or becoming a psycho mage. The mage thing takes a while, and going the melee route makes you spend all your points on strength and constitution, not on intellegence and wisdom for the dialogue. Planescape: Torment shouldn't be played for the combat, but for the dialogue.
I also sucked at Baldur's Gate.
And on sadness?
No more CRPG Planescape and Bauldur's Gate games. I never really play or played PC games, but I always played those.
A bunch of stuff about online gaming being a depraved wasteland of fucking xeno/homophobic shit-stupid kids.
God yes. This is the thing I hate the most.
Like when I rented CoD4 for the PS3 the other day just to check it out and my first online match is full of 13 year old suburbanite 'thugz' talking about how they 'grow marijuana and so high fo realz'. Naturally they all head headsets because the things are fucking expensive and it isn't their damn money, I'm sure.
We need to colonize other planets so I can leave this one. Seriously.
That's surprising. Normally all I hear from a game of COD4 is some painful static or the occasional tard who thinks I want to listen to RnB whilst I snipe.
Their should be two tiers of internet. One for the proles, and one for me and people I choose to share it with.
you guys would all be invited
Didn't Microsoft recently buy Facebook? I know someone bought Facebook for several billion. My dream internet game-playing environment is one that uses Facebook acquaintences for higher-tier matchmaking. Want to act like a complete cock? Fine, play with people who are just random gamertags and icons. Want to be held to a higher standard? Play with people you met, Friended on Facebook, maybe organized with in an FB Group, etc.
There are obvious inadequacies, but I think this would be a step in the right direction for fostering mature playing environments, AND making Facebook worth the billions that MS bought it for.
Their should be two tiers of internet. One for the proles, and one for me and people I choose to share it with.
you guys would all be invited
Didn't Microsoft recently buy Facebook? I know someone bought Facebook for several billion.
It was Reynholm Industries.
"...which means a profit so far this year of eighteen hundred billion billion."
"Splendid!"
"And this doesn't even include the added revenue arising from your takeover of Facebook."
"Facebook! I'd forgotten about Facebook! Brilliant!"
Their should be two tiers of internet. One for the proles, and one for me and people I choose to share it with.
you guys would all be invited
Didn't Microsoft recently buy Facebook? I know someone bought Facebook for several billion. My dream internet game-playing environment is one that uses Facebook acquaintences for higher-tier matchmaking. Want to act like a complete cock? Fine, play with people who are just random gamertags and icons. Want to be held to a higher standard? Play with people you met, Friended on Facebook, maybe organized with in an FB Group, etc.
There are obvious inadequacies, but I think this would be a step in the right direction for fostering mature playing environments, AND making Facebook worth the billions that MS bought it for.
One thing I learned quickly is no matter what the game, no matter what the system, play with PA members or dont play at all.
This goes for Halo, any steam game, anything on XBL or PSN. Heck, even scarabulous.
It's interesting, I'd never really thought about how much the serious gamer and metal fan communities have in common...(perhaps somewhat ironic, considering that each thinks the other is a bunch of total douchebags regarding Guitar Hero)
That "the old stuff was better" mentality, opposition to mainstream appeal, a majority made up of loud asshats who really don't know what they're talking about along with a small bunch of people who look down on them...it's all there. I'm pretty sure I could find a metal analog to almost post in this thread.
A bunch of stuff about online gaming being a depraved wasteland of fucking xeno/homophobic shit-stupid kids.
God yes. This is the thing I hate the most.
Like when I rented CoD4 for the PS3 the other day just to check it out and my first online match is full of 13 year old suburbanite 'thugz' talking about how they 'grow marijuana and so high fo realz'. Naturally they all head headsets because the things are fucking expensive and it isn't their damn money, I'm sure.
We need to colonize other planets so I can leave this one. Seriously.
Welcome to the internet, it's been this way forever. Bulletin boards and chat rooms in the early 90s? More swearing, racism and [take your pick]-phobic nonsense than you could ever hope for.
Age of Empires? Hey look, it's chat spam and 8 repeated over and over. Thankfully sometimes once the game started it would stop, sometimes not; nevermind actually finding a game or repeated group in gamespy or zone it was either "u r g4y, u play 2 much" or "u sux".
Everquest? Same problems getting help as WoW or DaoC or anything. EVE seems to be relatively friendly, in my 4 days of trial experience. Beggers, ninja looters (much easier), griefers (if you happened to play on a PvP server up to a level higher than ...2), corpse stealing, spawn stealing, kill stealing, intentional mob trains. Ohhh, yeah, the internet was the land of milk and honey, everyone was amiable and cooperative.
Or how about Counter-Strike? CS pre-dates LIVE, and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't find mic spam, racial slurs, unabated swearing and simple jackassery every time they started it up.
LIVE is not a "sad moment in gaming", you have both described idiocy that has existed anytime there has been anonymity and social activities. You may even want to argue that "it's LIVE, it's the 13 year olds annoying everyone." That's CS too (most other games didn't have easily accessible voice chat). We didn't start magically accruing low-rung teenagers in the year 2000. Oh yeah, no one cheated back then either; it was like a magical sandbox where everyone got along.
I also have the feeling that you're both greatly exaggerating; the same way that "a lot of babies are born during full moons" is an exaggeration; it's just that no one mentions when their baby is born during a wanning gibbous. You're taking the extreme parts of your Live experience, because they are the most visceral, and attributing those to your overall play.
Either that, or I'm stealing all the 'good games' because occurences of random jackassery are about 1 in 50 lobbies of CoD4. Or maybe you also get annoyed by people talking about how they like the M16 better than the AK47 or something, I don't know. If that's the problem you should just mute headphones. There is one small problem to admit: asking people to stop usually results in hostility; this is unfortunately unavoidable, but sometimes it works. If it doesn't...well, hey, you were going to mute them anyway.
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It's interesting, I'd never really thought about how much the serious gamer and metal fan communities have in common...(perhaps somewhat ironic, considering that each thinks the other is a bunch of total douchebags regarding Guitar Hero)
That "the old stuff was better" mentality, opposition to mainstream appeal, a majority made up of loud asshats who really don't know what they're talking about along with a small bunch of people who look down on them...it's all there. I'm pretty sure I could find a metal analog to almost post in this thread.
How about the rise of popularity of bands like Cradle of Filth in the 90s amongst the 13-year-old goth crowd, or, much worse, the metalcore scene of the 2000s? I think the same trends appear with any kind of recreation/entertainment - when it's small and obscure, you don't have to deal with mindless asshats that heard about it on primetime media sources.
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Going to see Shaun of the Dead in the cinema with my now ex-girlfriend. A brief snippet of Ed playing TimeSplitters 2 is shown on screen. From behind me I hear smoe moron say, "Hey, bruv! They're playin' Halo!"
I immediately began grinding my teeth.
haha I remember when you first said that in the shaun of the dead thread, or another horror thread from when the movie just came out..... still sad....
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Going to see Shaun of the Dead in the cinema with my now ex-girlfriend. A brief snippet of Ed playing TimeSplitters 2 is shown on screen. From behind me I hear smoe moron say, "Hey, bruv! They're playin' Halo!"
I immediately began grinding my teeth.
I'm laughing, but I'm crying on the inside. It's a lot like those folks that call video games in general "Nintendo." It's mostly silly though.
A bunch of stuff about online gaming being a ...depraved wasteland of fucking xeno/homophobic shit-stupid kids.
suburbanite 'thugz' talking about how they 'grow marijuana and so high fo realz'. Naturally they all head headsets because the things are fucking expensive and it isn't their damn money, I'm sure.
We need to colonize other planets so I can leave this one. Seriously.
Reminds me of the time during an online game of Burnout Revenge,some guy, blatantly high as a kite tried to convince everyone that he had made the game, and that Criterion had somehow 'stole' the game from him after he finished it.
It was funny, like that drunk uncle that tries to convince you he was in the SAS when he's drunk but then gets aggressive when you tell him he's talking shit.
I really don't know what you guys do to run into so many bad people on Live that it's so frustrating.
I play on Live during the day with PA people more than I do alone, but at night, after they've all gone to bed, I hop on CoD4 and play for an hour or two pubbing it and I can honestly say that the unpleasant folks are the vast minority of the people I run into. They pop up every so often, but I just mute them if they're too disruptive and problem solved.
Heck, somehow I even managed to avoid running into the trashtalking moron frat fuck in Halo 3 and only played games with decent people and that was almost all playing with randoms.
Maybe I just have a higher tolerance for morons than everyone else, but I don't really see why everyone gets so pissed off at Live's community.
I have a new one to submit, more from the Live community. For the record, I haven't found Live to be all that bad. About 80-90% of my games are moron free, and the handy mute/avoid player functions are always at my fingertips. Anyway.
I was playing some Double-team in Halo 3 with an RL friend of mine. We played 15 games, and ran into two groups of jackasses. The first one had two ultra-high ranked players who beat us fairly (we mounted a decent comeback but still lost by 7 or 8). They, of course, had to start in with "OMG NOOBS" after the game. Whatever. We were clearly outplayed. This wasn't the worst one though.
The worst one was the team we ended up playing twice in a row. Like the team I just mentioned, they were pretty highly experienced players (Something like 400+ games played apiece). We first played them on Isolation, and beat them 25-15 by playing a tight game of control over the power weapons and Ghost. We (as always) say "good game" after the match, but apparently we were playing like a bunch of noobs, and they would totally own us with a BR start, and that they're so much better than us, etc. The usual "my self-esteem is 90% established by my ability to win in an online video game." My friend and I thought nothing of it, and left. This is where it gets stupid.
Recall, this team accused us of using unfair tactics rather than beating them skillfully. The matchmaking gods placed us together again, this time on Snowbound. It was a fairly close game; we lost 25-21. They had done the same thing we had done in the previous game: Superior map control (they held the shotgun bunker in the center, and my partner and I were guilty of splitting up and facing them one on two... not a wise move). After the game was over, we once again said our "GG," but were met with a tirade of "OMG NEWB WE SHOWED YOU!" and other such nonsense.
I consider this a very sad gaming moment. Few things annoy me more than people who cannot win or lose gracefully.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Except not.
My main problem is that I consume different media in phases, and always start a new game when I get back to gaming. It doesn't help that I like story driven games.
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This.
Also arcades were fucking money pits and I don't miss them at all actually.
damn elitist
Thank you, that's a very good way of putting it. What bothers me more than anything else is Spike and G4 really pushing hard to make it a mainstream thing when it will happen naturally if it's meant to, like music and movies.
When an arcade is done RIGHT, it's awesome.
And what makes it awesome is stuff like fighting games and co-op games. Where you end up toe to toe or back to back with a total stranger, your quarters on the line, fighting for your virtual life.
Or something. I don't know.
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I guess my sad moment is the current state of online gaming, at least with consoles (I don't really use my comp for gaming). Instead of forming a larger community that enriches the experience, the majority of the time playing with random people just gets you exploitation of glitches and cheap moves, not to mention completely rude people. It might be a bad example, but I really enjoyed MPH online and could definitely hold my own against alt-spammers and all that, but once everyone turned to shadow freezing and wall glitches the game just soured.
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I am 100% with you on this complaint. I am a PC gamer by default (and by history), but made the translation to console gaming when I decided I was no longer able to keep up in the video card race. Needless to say, a good chunk of my online playing time is now done on 360 with some games on PS3 and PC as well (TF2).
I cannot give enough negative feedback for LIVE and its community. Everytime I go online and play with people whom I do not know personally, I have terrible experiences. At the best, I hear a 12-year old and a 23-year old insult each other with racist and homophobic slurs. At the worst, I have kids SCREAMING into microphones while glitching through walls and exploiting every possible line of bad code in the game. On the few times I have called people on this, I have been insulted and then had to listen to a rant about how "TEH WALLHAK IZ IN TEH GAME!!!111 ITS PART OF THE GAME! THE MLG DOES IT 2! ITS MLG RULEZ!"
Example: I stopped playing Gears because a clan of kids were sliding around the map so you couldn't hit them and they were also sniping through walls. When I politely asked them to stop cheating, their defense was that Major League Gaming allows these glitches and therefore it is okay to do. As though MLG is the authority in fairness. They then commenced to double their cheating efforts and call my friends and I "gay faggots."
The worst thing about LIVE right now is how after Christmas, the stability of the servers has been very shaky. I've given up playing Call of Duty 4 until they iron out the kinks because people are jumping forward due to lag and then the host ends the match about 40 seconds in.
I just feel so out of place in the current online gaming community. Everyone is either a shit-mouthed kid or an oversexed frat boy.
That being said, Team Fortress 2 for the PC has become my shining beacon in the dark for online gaming. Everyone is nice and enthusiastic - especially in the PA servers. It's the reason I still have hope for online gaming.
God yes. This is the thing I hate the most.
Like when I rented CoD4 for the PS3 the other day just to check it out and my first online match is full of 13 year old suburbanite 'thugz' talking about how they 'grow marijuana and so high fo realz'. Naturally they all head headsets because the things are fucking expensive and it isn't their damn money, I'm sure.
We need to colonize other planets so I can leave this one. Seriously.
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I immediately began grinding my teeth.
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Don't blame yourself. I'm a HUGE Planescape fan, and I'll be the first to say that the combat is shit in almost every instance. Really, the only way to get through any of the later fights without running away is becoming a unstopable melee juggernaut, or becoming a psycho mage. The mage thing takes a while, and going the melee route makes you spend all your points on strength and constitution, not on intellegence and wisdom for the dialogue. Planescape: Torment shouldn't be played for the combat, but for the dialogue.
I also sucked at Baldur's Gate.
And on sadness?
No more CRPG Planescape and Bauldur's Gate games. I never really play or played PC games, but I always played those.
That's surprising. Normally all I hear from a game of COD4 is some painful static or the occasional tard who thinks I want to listen to RnB whilst I snipe.
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Didn't Microsoft recently buy Facebook? I know someone bought Facebook for several billion. My dream internet game-playing environment is one that uses Facebook acquaintences for higher-tier matchmaking. Want to act like a complete cock? Fine, play with people who are just random gamertags and icons. Want to be held to a higher standard? Play with people you met, Friended on Facebook, maybe organized with in an FB Group, etc.
There are obvious inadequacies, but I think this would be a step in the right direction for fostering mature playing environments, AND making Facebook worth the billions that MS bought it for.
It was Reynholm Industries.
"...which means a profit so far this year of eighteen hundred billion billion."
"Splendid!"
"And this doesn't even include the added revenue arising from your takeover of Facebook."
"Facebook! I'd forgotten about Facebook! Brilliant!"
...and the rest.
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One thing I learned quickly is no matter what the game, no matter what the system, play with PA members or dont play at all.
This goes for Halo, any steam game, anything on XBL or PSN. Heck, even scarabulous.
That "the old stuff was better" mentality, opposition to mainstream appeal, a majority made up of loud asshats who really don't know what they're talking about along with a small bunch of people who look down on them...it's all there. I'm pretty sure I could find a metal analog to almost post in this thread.
Jesus Christ I think something just broke inside of me.
Welcome to the internet, it's been this way forever. Bulletin boards and chat rooms in the early 90s? More swearing, racism and [take your pick]-phobic nonsense than you could ever hope for.
Age of Empires? Hey look, it's chat spam and 8 repeated over and over. Thankfully sometimes once the game started it would stop, sometimes not; nevermind actually finding a game or repeated group in gamespy or zone it was either "u r g4y, u play 2 much" or "u sux".
Everquest? Same problems getting help as WoW or DaoC or anything. EVE seems to be relatively friendly, in my 4 days of trial experience. Beggers, ninja looters (much easier), griefers (if you happened to play on a PvP server up to a level higher than ...2), corpse stealing, spawn stealing, kill stealing, intentional mob trains. Ohhh, yeah, the internet was the land of milk and honey, everyone was amiable and cooperative.
Or how about Counter-Strike? CS pre-dates LIVE, and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't find mic spam, racial slurs, unabated swearing and simple jackassery every time they started it up.
LIVE is not a "sad moment in gaming", you have both described idiocy that has existed anytime there has been anonymity and social activities. You may even want to argue that "it's LIVE, it's the 13 year olds annoying everyone." That's CS too (most other games didn't have easily accessible voice chat). We didn't start magically accruing low-rung teenagers in the year 2000. Oh yeah, no one cheated back then either; it was like a magical sandbox where everyone got along.
I also have the feeling that you're both greatly exaggerating; the same way that "a lot of babies are born during full moons" is an exaggeration; it's just that no one mentions when their baby is born during a wanning gibbous. You're taking the extreme parts of your Live experience, because they are the most visceral, and attributing those to your overall play.
Either that, or I'm stealing all the 'good games' because occurences of random jackassery are about 1 in 50 lobbies of CoD4. Or maybe you also get annoyed by people talking about how they like the M16 better than the AK47 or something, I don't know. If that's the problem you should just mute headphones. There is one small problem to admit: asking people to stop usually results in hostility; this is unfortunately unavoidable, but sometimes it works. If it doesn't...well, hey, you were going to mute them anyway.
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haha I remember when you first said that in the shaun of the dead thread, or another horror thread from when the movie just came out..... still sad....
I'm laughing, but I'm crying on the inside. It's a lot like those folks that call video games in general "Nintendo." It's mostly silly though.
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PAL is the saddest moment in gaming.
Please explain this to me. You're sad because a kid got something wrong?
Reminds me of the time during an online game of Burnout Revenge,some guy, blatantly high as a kite tried to convince everyone that he had made the game, and that Criterion had somehow 'stole' the game from him after he finished it.
It was funny, like that drunk uncle that tries to convince you he was in the SAS when he's drunk but then gets aggressive when you tell him he's talking shit.
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I play on Live during the day with PA people more than I do alone, but at night, after they've all gone to bed, I hop on CoD4 and play for an hour or two pubbing it and I can honestly say that the unpleasant folks are the vast minority of the people I run into. They pop up every so often, but I just mute them if they're too disruptive and problem solved.
Heck, somehow I even managed to avoid running into the trashtalking moron frat fuck in Halo 3 and only played games with decent people and that was almost all playing with randoms.
Maybe I just have a higher tolerance for morons than everyone else, but I don't really see why everyone gets so pissed off at Live's community.
I was playing some Double-team in Halo 3 with an RL friend of mine. We played 15 games, and ran into two groups of jackasses. The first one had two ultra-high ranked players who beat us fairly (we mounted a decent comeback but still lost by 7 or 8). They, of course, had to start in with "OMG NOOBS" after the game. Whatever. We were clearly outplayed. This wasn't the worst one though.
The worst one was the team we ended up playing twice in a row. Like the team I just mentioned, they were pretty highly experienced players (Something like 400+ games played apiece). We first played them on Isolation, and beat them 25-15 by playing a tight game of control over the power weapons and Ghost. We (as always) say "good game" after the match, but apparently we were playing like a bunch of noobs, and they would totally own us with a BR start, and that they're so much better than us, etc. The usual "my self-esteem is 90% established by my ability to win in an online video game." My friend and I thought nothing of it, and left. This is where it gets stupid.
Recall, this team accused us of using unfair tactics rather than beating them skillfully. The matchmaking gods placed us together again, this time on Snowbound. It was a fairly close game; we lost 25-21. They had done the same thing we had done in the previous game: Superior map control (they held the shotgun bunker in the center, and my partner and I were guilty of splitting up and facing them one on two... not a wise move). After the game was over, we once again said our "GG," but were met with a tirade of "OMG NEWB WE SHOWED YOU!" and other such nonsense.
I consider this a very sad gaming moment. Few things annoy me more than people who cannot win or lose gracefully.