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Sad moments in gaming.

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Playing Hellgate London for the first time. So sad. So sad. Expectations shattered, my dream game naught but a pipedream.

    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Also, raiding molten core for the 15th time. God. So sad.

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  • RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Evangir wrote: »
    The worst one was the team we ended up playing twice in a row. Like the team I just mentioned, they were pretty highly experienced players (Something like 400+ games played apiece). We first played them on Isolation, and beat them 25-15 by playing a tight game of control over the power weapons and Ghost. We (as always) say "good game" after the match, but apparently we were playing like a bunch of noobs, and they would totally own us with a BR start, and that they're so much better than us, etc. The usual "my self-esteem is 90% established by my ability to win in an online video game." My friend and I thought nothing of it, and left. This is where it gets stupid.

    Recall, this team accused us of using unfair tactics rather than beating them skillfully. The matchmaking gods placed us together again, this time on Snowbound. It was a fairly close game; we lost 25-21. They had done the same thing we had done in the previous game: Superior map control (they held the shotgun bunker in the center, and my partner and I were guilty of splitting up and facing them one on two... not a wise move). After the game was over, we once again said our "GG," but were met with a tirade of "OMG NEWB WE SHOWED YOU!" and other such nonsense.

    I consider this a very sad gaming moment. Few things annoy me more than people who cannot win or lose gracefully.

    As I read this I wondered what these guys would be like when they grow up. By the time I finished reading I realized that people like them rarely do.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Coffey wrote: »
    Kid one: "You ever play Counterstrike?"
    Kid two: "What's that?"
    Kid one: "It's an X-Box game. Kind of like Halo."

    Jesus Christ I think something just broke inside of me.

    Please explain this to me. You're sad because a kid got something wrong?

    This whole thread is a matter of perspective, with our expectations not being met and such.

    Henroid on
  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Welcome to the internet, it's been this way forever.

    I knew that, really. I've been doing this type of thing since Quake 2 was the hot shit. Except back then we didn't have voice chat. Maybe that's it.

    Perhaps nostalgia has made me forget the teenage dipshits. Or maybe it was being a teenage dipshit myself back then made me forget. Fuck it.

    Damn kids. *grumblegrumble*

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Leitner on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that. And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !

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  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that.
    And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !

    There is merit to this as well. My club (gaming, figuratively) growing up was 'stupid' to these people, and I was a 'loser' for being in it. Then Halo and Madden take the fuck off and everyone goes around wearing the label I took so much shit for having? The asshats who gave me all the shit now think they're part of my club?

    Related to this, the idea that gamers are all cheeto-stained land whales.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that.
    And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !

    There is merit to this as well. My club (gaming, figuratively) growing up was 'stupid' to these people, and I was a 'loser' for being in it. Then Halo and Madden take the fuck off and everyone goes around wearing the label I took so much shit for having? The asshats who gave me all the shit now think they're part of my club?

    Related to this, the idea that gamers are all cheeto-stained land whales.

    Well I'd say claiming a label such as gamer is sad in and of itself, much like people who claim a musical genre (metal etc) and are offended when people use it who don't know X. If gamer is such an intergal part of your identity some serious revaluation of yourself is in order. Also those people who you're bitching about didn't do anything to you. Getting angry at them for what others that you see as similar did is pretty petty.

    As for the stereotyes of gamers. It's an unfortunate reality, but it rings true far too often, though this is begining to change.

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  • mrsnackroadmrsnackroad Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'd say... its the moment I've realized that nothing is as good as I remember it.

    Example, "Lufia and the Fortress of Doom"

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'd say... its the moment I've realized that nothing is as good as I remember it.

    Example, "Lufia and the Fortress of Doom"

    This has kicked my ass a few times.

    I've bought way too many games off the VC thinking "man, I remember this game, I used to play the hell out of it, it was awesome"

    Then, upon beating it in an hour...

    "wow thats it... I remember... I remember so much more challenge"

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    agreed

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    "I didn't buy Earthbound because Nintendo power said it stunk."

    Sheep on
  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Sleep wrote: »
    "I didn't buy Earthbound because Nintendo power said it stunk."

    D:

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2008
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    "I didn't buy Earthbound because Nintendo power said it stunk."

    D:


    Nintendo hated Earthbound fans before we even existed.

    Sheep on
  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Sleep wrote: »
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    "I didn't buy Earthbound because Nintendo power said it stunk."

    D:


    Nintendo hated Earthbound fans before we even existed.

    Just to make sure this is clear:

    The Earthbound advertisment campaign was: "This game stinks"

    It was supposed to be a joke, and if you watched any of the commercials, you could easily tell that. From text in a magazine though... I can see how it'd throw you off.

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  • Vash108Vash108 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Sleep wrote: »
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    "I didn't buy Earthbound because Nintendo power said it stunk."

    D:


    Nintendo hated Earthbound fans before we even existed.

    Those FOOLS!

    Still I wish that was one game that would be remade.

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  • Squirminator2kSquirminator2k they/them North Hollywood, CARegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    TEMPORAL HATE. Transcending the very laws of time itself.

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  • Psycho Internet HawkPsycho Internet Hawk Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    When realized I could no longer devote the time and money to games I used to because I now am in college, preparing to live on my own in a few years, and have a life. Gaming is pretty expensive and incredibly time-consuming.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    TEMPORAL HATE. Transcending the very laws of time itself.

    Isn't the only law of time "Go"?

    Henroid on
  • DebaserZbsDebaserZbs Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Leitner wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that.
    And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !
    There is merit to this as well. My club (gaming, figuratively) growing up was 'stupid' to these people, and I was a 'loser' for being in it. Then Halo and Madden take the fuck off and everyone goes around wearing the label I took so much shit for having? The asshats who gave me all the shit now think they're part of my club?

    Related to this, the idea that gamers are all cheeto-stained land whales.

    Well I'd say claiming a label such as gamer is sad in and of itself, much like people who claim a musical genre (metal etc) and are offended when people use it who don't know X. If gamer is such an intergal part of your identity some serious revaluation of yourself is in order. Also those people who you're bitching about didn't do anything to you. Getting angry at them for what others that you see as similar did is pretty petty.

    As for the stereotyes of gamers. It's an unfortunate reality, but it rings true far too often, though this is begining to change.

    I'm not going to lie; it does piss me off that I spend half of my life mocked for my hobby and suddenly it's cool. However, I'm pretty much past this frustation now.

    As far as the XBOX LIVE community goes, yes I do know that there have always been asshole gamers. My problem with LIVE is that I've been on it for three years and rarely do I have an enjoyable experience. :( Part of it is probably reliant upon the fact that nearly all LIVE players have a microphone. I'm sure that these people were around back when I was kid, but at the same time I didn't have to hear them. Hell, every time I go on LIVE I think of the PA strip for UT2004 where it shows how an ordinary person + microphone + complete anonymity + an audience = fuckwad.

    Oh, and the whole "Halo dual-wielding being innovative" is complete horseshit. I can hold two guns at the same time now?! That's so rad! On a side note, I honestly think that COD4's kill-cam is not only innovative, but also really satisfying. It reduces the feeling that my death was cheap or a glitch (unless seen through said camera) and also lets me know how I goofed up. I really think every FPS should have it now.

    Sorry, back on track. I think the saddest thing right now is how, at least when I was a kid, gamers would at least be cordial to one another. Yeah, there were console rivalries even back then, but since we were always being picked on by the other cliques and social clubs, I would try to make the group stick together. Maybe it's me being an old fart, but I think now all the gamers are at least 4x pettier than ever before. Everyone is screaming at each other about framerate and exclusivity and the like, while few people are actually discussing how fun a game is or just having a good time playing.

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  • BoredGamerBoredGamer Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DebaserZbs wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that.
    And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !

    There is merit to this as well. My club (gaming, figuratively) growing up was 'stupid' to these people, and I was a 'loser' for being in it. Then Halo and Madden take the fuck off and everyone goes around wearing the label I took so much shit for having? The asshats who gave me all the shit now think they're part of my club?

    Related to this, the idea that gamers are all cheeto-stained land whales.

    Well I'd say claiming a label such as gamer is sad in and of itself, much like people who claim a musical genre (metal etc) and are offended when people use it who don't know X. If gamer is such an intergal part of your identity some serious revaluation of yourself is in order. Also those people who you're bitching about didn't do anything to you. Getting angry at them for what others that you see as similar did is pretty petty.

    As for the stereotyes of gamers. It's an unfortunate reality, but it rings true far too often, though this is begining to change.

    I'm not going to lie; it does piss me off that I spend half of my life mocked for my hobby and suddenly it's cool. However, I'm pretty much past this frustation now.

    As far as the XBOX LIVE community goes, yes I do know that there have always been asshole gamers. My problem with LIVE is that I've been on it for three years and rarely do I have an enjoyable experience. :(

    Oh, and the whole "Halo dual-wielding being innovative" is complete horseshit. I can hold two guns at the same time now?! That's so rad!

    On a better note, I honestly think that COD4's kill-cam is not only innovative, but also really satisfying. It reduces the feeling that my death was cheap or a glitch (unless seen through said camera) and also lets me know how I goofed up. I really think every FPS should have it now.


    I agree with this. Completely.

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  • Vash108Vash108 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DebaserZbs wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The day Halo became the standard at which we judge FPS games. The day Dual Wielding became "Innovative".

    Related to this, the day cheeto stained land whales started hating on games because people who weren't their ilk enjoyed them.

    Ouch. XD

    I think it's more than that, for the record. I grew up being picked on because I played video games, and suddenly they're widely accepted? Fuck that.
    And I'm actually not even close to being overweight. Cheeto stains however... !
    There is merit to this as well. My club (gaming, figuratively) growing up was 'stupid' to these people, and I was a 'loser' for being in it. Then Halo and Madden take the fuck off and everyone goes around wearing the label I took so much shit for having? The asshats who gave me all the shit now think they're part of my club?

    Related to this, the idea that gamers are all cheeto-stained land whales.

    Well I'd say claiming a label such as gamer is sad in and of itself, much like people who claim a musical genre (metal etc) and are offended when people use it who don't know X. If gamer is such an intergal part of your identity some serious revaluation of yourself is in order. Also those people who you're bitching about didn't do anything to you. Getting angry at them for what others that you see as similar did is pretty petty.

    As for the stereotyes of gamers. It's an unfortunate reality, but it rings true far too often, though this is begining to change.

    I'm not going to lie; it does piss me off that I spend half of my life mocked for my hobby and suddenly it's cool. However, I'm pretty much past this frustation now.

    As far as the XBOX LIVE community goes, yes I do know that there have always been asshole gamers. My problem with LIVE is that I've been on it for three years and rarely do I have an enjoyable experience. :( Part of it is probably reliant upon the fact that nearly all LIVE players have a microphone. I'm sure that these people were around back when I was kid, but at the same time I didn't have to hear them. Hell, every time I go on LIVE I think of the PA strip for UT2004 where it shows how an ordinary person + microphone + complete anonymity + an audience = fuckwad.

    Oh, and the whole "Halo dual-wielding being innovative" is complete horseshit. I can hold two guns at the same time now?! That's so rad! On a side note, I honestly think that COD4's kill-cam is not only innovative, but also really satisfying. It reduces the feeling that my death was cheap or a glitch (unless seen through said camera) and also lets me know how I goofed up. I really think every FPS should have it now.

    Sorry, back on track. I think the saddest thing right now is how, at least when I was a kid, gamers would at least be cordial to one another. Yeah, there were console rivalries even back then, but since we were always being picked on by the other cliques and social clubs, I would try to make the group stick together. Maybe it's me being an old fart, but I think now all the gamers are at least 4x pettier than ever before. Everyone is screaming at each other about framerate and exclusivity and the like, while few people are actually discussing how fun a game is or just having a good time playing.

    Even though I am a Halo fan it can be so true.

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  • Uncle_BalsamicUncle_Balsamic Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    All this talk of Counter-Strike douche baggery reminds me of how much better behaved my brother and I found the DoD community to be.

    That's why the original DoD is still my favourite online game of all time, because there was some really sound people playing. I never was much of a CS fan anyway.

    Also, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye had duel wielding before Halo.

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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Man, old-school DoD was great, especially before it was picked up by Valve.

    There was a 3-month-long or so period where I would frequent the same server. I got so fucking good with the M1 Carbine that people though I was cheating. I could unload the entire clip in like 1 second, and it was so easy to get headshots with.

    On the topic of Goldeneye: Anybody remember how you could duel-wield different weapons by glitching the weapon swap system? So cool.

    Also, remember when the button-push cheats finally were revealed? Man, I don't know how they kept those a secret that long.

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  • stratslingerstratslinger Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Also, the death of Shmups like R-Type and Gradius and Axelay. I miss some good old fashioned shmups, nothing too crazy hard but nothing extremely easy either.

    Amen, brother! I keep wishing R-Type would show up on one of these old arcade-compilation disks, or on XBLA... That game robbed me of I don't know how many quarters back when I was a young 'un.

    The 3-D shooter is cool and all, and 3-D in general is quite slick. But there's still room for your good, old fashioned 2-D side scrolling shooter. I think my saddest gaming moment has to be the day that seemingly every developer simultaneously decided that "everything must be 3-D!!!"

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    All this talk of Counter-Strike douche baggery reminds me of how much better behaved my brother and I found the DoD community to be.

    That's why the original DoD is still my favourite online game of all time, because there was some really sound people playing. I never was much of a CS fan anyway.

    Also, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye had duel wielding before Halo.

    Two weapons = / = dual wielding, but this is a digression and hate on/how awesome Halo is, is well treaded ground and has sent far too many god threads to shit. So let's drop it?

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  • BlainBlain Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Jumping in for a little historical perspective again: CoD 4's killcam is from CoD 1 (released in 2003). And there was an even earlier game that allowed recording and watching your entire match from the other people's perspectives. That was DooM (1993).

    Edit: Actually, to be fair, I think that functionality was patched in, so let's say 1994 for that.

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  • StriferStrifer Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I would like to submit the fact that we might probably never get Freespace 3. Damn you Interplay!

    Yes, I know there is an open-source project going on, but Freespace 3!

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Man, what the fuck is all this? Being picked on because you played games?

    I was never picked on for playing games. You guys must have hung around dickwads.

    TheSonicRetard on
  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Amen, brother! I keep wishing R-Type would show up on one of these old arcade-compilation disks, or on XBLA... That game robbed me of I don't know how many quarters back when I was a young 'un.

    They did. "R-Types." For the PSX.

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I really don't like the kill cam. Oh hey I shot you first but the kill cam shows those shots didn't register yay!

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Pharezon wrote: »
    I really don't like the kill cam. Oh hey I shot you first but the kill cam shows those shots didn't register yay!

    maybe they have juggernaut on?

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Pharezon wrote: »
    I really don't like the kill cam. Oh hey I shot you first but the kill cam shows those shots didn't register yay!

    maybe they have juggernaut on?

    The first aid icon would have flashed then. I fire my weapon which registers on my screen but when the kill cam shows up it doesn't register.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The day I met an awesome gamer woman on the bus who was so very intelligent and pleasant to talk with that i completely forgot that she was hot and at the end of our mutual bus ride, I forgot to get or give contact information.

    Seriously, Diablo 2, Red Faction, Morrowind "tee hee, I am such a dark elf", and her latest craze was U3


    Devon, where are you? :cry:

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  • TDMTDM Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The day I realized that an MMORPG where the players can directly influence the game world is impossible to balance against the need to preserve the integrity of the game experience for all the players. That and the exploitation of game mechanics by people with too much time on their hands.

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  • steve-o99steve-o99 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    when i realized that the Force Unleashed was going to suck donkey balls on Wii and I'm going to have to buy the 360 version. I got access to a 360 thru undesired randomness, and have managed to keep myself from buying a "game" if you can call the shiny brownish monstrosities games and buy Wii games like NMH and Galaxy instead of "insert FPS garbage here" 3 or 4...
    but now I'm actually going to have to buy a 360 game...
    my soul will never recover

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  • Resident0Resident0 Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Man, what the fuck is all this? Being picked on because you played games?

    I was never picked on for playing games. You guys must have hung around dickwads.
    I hung around with other gamers in school, I had one friend who I would constantly keep in contention with over who got the latest SNES game, he got Final Fight, I got Tuff E Nuff, he got Mortal Kombat, I got the PAL SFII which I took round to his house to show off and saw him playing a USA import of SFII:Turbo.

    'I wanted to moider him and take his cart!!'

    But yea, sad moment in gaming was knowing all the awesome USA games like Earthbound, Breath Of Fire and Lufia would never come to the UK, and not being old enough or having a job so I couldn't buy the games on import, thanks to Ebay however the rare/good import games are still quite expensive.

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    steve-o99 wrote: »
    when i realized that the Force Unleashed was going to suck donkey balls on Wii and I'm going to have to buy the 360 version. I got access to a 360 thru undesired randomness, and have managed to keep myself from buying a "game" if you can call the shiny brownish monstrosities games and buy Wii games like NMH and Galaxy instead of "insert FPS garbage here" 3 or 4...
    but now I'm actually going to have to buy a 360 game...
    my soul will never recover


    I nominate this as sad for not playing some great games just because they are on a console you don't like but still have.

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  • KirkKirk Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Coffey wrote: »
    echo wrote:
    Tell me... how often do you play Pong?

    You don't? Get off my lawn!

    I don't know if you're trying to make an age joke or not but I did play Pong on the Atari 2600 before the Nintendo was even on the market.

    this guy plays FOR REALZ

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Xtarath wrote: »
    steve-o99 wrote: »
    when i realized that the Force Unleashed was going to suck donkey balls on Wii and I'm going to have to buy the 360 version. I got access to a 360 thru undesired randomness, and have managed to keep myself from buying a "game" if you can call the shiny brownish monstrosities games and buy Wii games like NMH and Galaxy instead of "insert FPS garbage here" 3 or 4...
    but now I'm actually going to have to buy a 360 game...
    my soul will never recover


    I nominate this as sad for not playing some great games just because they are on a console you don't like but still have.

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