Yeah, it's confirmed.
He's in Brawl.
In SSE.
As a common enemy.
who is also playable!
Nah.
seems to make sense to me
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KorKnown to detonate from time to timeRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
I don't get why people think adding a character is going to push everyone over to the right (or down a column where appropriate).
I mean, why the hell would you just think shit would be tossed in randomely like Melee did? As long as the characters end up together, thats all that matters.
Hell, in the final version of the roster, Mario might be in the bottom right, and Lucas in the top left. Who cares.
A team of around 100 people have been working on Brawl for 2+ years, with access to all the development materials from Melee given to them by HAL Labs. It just don't add up to me. Melee was rushed and had 19 unique characters and 6 clones, Brawl has roughly twice the development time(Couldn't find an exact timeframe for Melee's development) and all the old code on hand. I'd expect 38-40 unique characters minimum. If they did this with only 35 it better be the best damned balanced fighting game ever released, and even then the newcomers in the 'leak' that they haven't announced are the definition of lackluster. If the roster is actually that 35 they could have picked much better hidden characters than they supposedly did. But regardless, the numbers involved for the amount of development this game got just feels wrong.
A team of around 100 people have been working on Brawl for 2+ years, with access to all the development materials from Melee given to them by HAL Labs. It just don't add up to me. Melee was rushed and had 19 unique characters and 6 clones, Brawl has roughly twice the development time(Couldn't find an exact timeframe for Melee's development) and all the old code on hand. I'd expect 38-40 unique characters minimum. If they did this with only 35 it better be the best damned balanced fighting game ever released, and even then the newcomers in the 'leak' that they haven't announced are the definition of lackluster. If the roster is actually that 35 they could have picked much better hidden characters than they supposedly did. But regardless, the numbers involved for the amount of development this game got just feels wrong.
I don't see why the game needs that many characters
there were 25 in melee, and considering a few of those were clones, and everyone in brawl supposedly has a unique moveset, that seems like plenty of work done to me
I'm a little dissapointed that they made the majority of original characters into starters.
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mntorankusuI'm not sure how to use this thing....Registered Userregular
edited January 2008
Melee may have had 19 unique characters, but 12 of those were from SSB. That means Melee had 7 new characters. Brawl, so far, has had 11 newcomers announced, another one confirmed, Zero Suit Samus if you want to count her, and this is before any unlockables (aside from Snake and Sonic) are taken into account.
And how long was Melee in development? "Rushed" is not a measurement of time. "Rushed" just means the game was pushed out the door before they wanted it to be.
That would actually be awesome.
And THIS would actually make some sense.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited January 2008
that's already been suggested at least once
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Lucario, Ness and Jigglypuff are 100% confirmed, Luigi is 99% certain to be in, as is Capt. Falcon. Ganon was confirmed in that interview. ROB, WW Link, Game and Watch, Wolf are all on multiple leaked "rosters" but are unconfirmed.
Is that about right?
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Clint EastwoodMy baby's in there someplaceShe crawled right inRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
Yeah pretty much sums it up.
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KorKnown to detonate from time to timeRegistered Userregular
Lucario, Ness and Jigglypuff are 100% confirmed, Luigi is 99% certain to be in, as is Capt. Falcon. Ganon was confirmed in that interview. ROB, WW Link, Game and Watch, Wolf are all on multiple leaked "rosters" but are unconfirmed.
Is that about right?
G&W is more confirmed than Luigi is really. Considering Slot 13 is pretty much his.
Edit: Cloudman, there you are. What news of the 2chan front?
damn it, now I'm going to be suspicious that Link is both the one in the video and the one on the website. ><
Well, according to brawlcentral, the movie was put up by one of gimpyfish's japanese friends or something?
Whatever you want to make of that.
Yeah I read that, too.
I have nothing to say about it though. I mean, that guy could tell Smashboards that Pichu is the most powerful character of all, and they'd all buy it.
Lucario, Ness and Jigglypuff are 100% confirmed, Luigi is 99% certain to be in, as is Capt. Falcon. Ganon was confirmed in that interview. ROB, WW Link, Game and Watch, Wolf are all on multiple leaked "rosters" but are unconfirmed.
Is that about right?
G&W is more confirmed than Luigi is really. Considering Slot 13 is pretty much his.
Edit: Cloudman, there you are. What news of the 2chan front?
I don't get why people think adding a character is going to push everyone over to the right (or down a column where appropriate).
I mean, why the hell would you just think shit would be tossed in randomely like Melee did? As long as the characters end up together, thats all that matters.
Hell, in the final version of the roster, Mario might be in the bottom right, and Lucas in the top left. Who cares.
Err, that's why people think adding characters will shift everybody over. That's the only logical way for them to end up organized.
edit: I like how he pokes fun at his own shitty delays between updates.
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Clint EastwoodMy baby's in there someplaceShe crawled right inRegistered Userregular
edited January 2008
I actually did hear tell of two additional short video clips, one of the beginning of SSE and the other has footage of the name-entering and difficulty select screen. Apparently the clips haven't been uploaded.
I don't get why people think adding a character is going to push everyone over to the right (or down a column where appropriate).
I mean, why the hell would you just think shit would be tossed in randomely like Melee did? As long as the characters end up together, thats all that matters.
Hell, in the final version of the roster, Mario might be in the bottom right, and Lucas in the top left. Who cares.
Err, that's why people think adding characters will shift everybody over. That's the only logical way for them to end up organized.
It just seems so complex.
why design the page, so that everything looks all messy, so it can be cleaned up. Melee didn't do that. Melee looked clean and organized at start, and at finish.
Maybe tonight he'll be like, "I already showed this in a previous update, but I'd like to go into more detail this time..." like with the Meta Knight Special Moves update.
Meh, I'm still of the position of being skeptical of any leaks...that don't include Ridley and Megaman. Or at the very least, one other third party character. Two just seems like such a strange number to limit the game to. Besides, they seem to be intent on giving every major series a villain, so leaving the Metroid series without a Ridley, or at least a Dark Samus or one of the Hunters, violates the pattern. Frankly, without that system, Wolf makes little sense as well.
Desperate attempts at rationalization? Absolutely, but I'll take what I can get, at least for the next 1.5 weeks. Oh, here's a question. Come the Japanese release, we'll surely find complete character lists almost immediately, as everyone here anticipates. Fine, but won't the number of leaks expand exponentially as well? How will we sift the real ones from the fakes? Or will we rely on Japanese-based gamers and importers among the collective here?
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Nah.
Ready?
Brace yourselves.
seems to make sense to me
I mean, why the hell would you just think shit would be tossed in randomely like Melee did? As long as the characters end up together, thats all that matters.
Hell, in the final version of the roster, Mario might be in the bottom right, and Lucas in the top left. Who cares.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
A team of around 100 people have been working on Brawl for 2+ years, with access to all the development materials from Melee given to them by HAL Labs. It just don't add up to me. Melee was rushed and had 19 unique characters and 6 clones, Brawl has roughly twice the development time(Couldn't find an exact timeframe for Melee's development) and all the old code on hand. I'd expect 38-40 unique characters minimum. If they did this with only 35 it better be the best damned balanced fighting game ever released, and even then the newcomers in the 'leak' that they haven't announced are the definition of lackluster. If the roster is actually that 35 they could have picked much better hidden characters than they supposedly did. But regardless, the numbers involved for the amount of development this game got just feels wrong.
I don't see why the game needs that many characters
there were 25 in melee, and considering a few of those were clones, and everyone in brawl supposedly has a unique moveset, that seems like plenty of work done to me
And how long was Melee in development? "Rushed" is not a measurement of time. "Rushed" just means the game was pushed out the door before they wanted it to be.
That would actually be awesome.
And THIS would actually make some sense.
Damn. I really think you're onto something.
And then you beat him into learning the error of his ways. Character unlocked.
Ugh.
No. Just... no.
Well, maybe. But no.
At least, this isn't the Star Fox one. That guy's a clear "Not gonna happen, ever".
Reminds me of when they announced it was called the Wii.
Its odd that at the end, when Link pops up, Pit isn't beside him, being seperated by a VS. of some kind.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
It would appear they no longer have that.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various11.html
That was on the Dojo classic update I believe. It shows who you fight and the stage but nothing else.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Is that about right?
G&W is more confirmed than Luigi is really. Considering Slot 13 is pretty much his.
Edit: Cloudman, there you are. What news of the 2chan front?
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Well, according to brawlcentral, the movie was put up by one of gimpyfish's japanese friends or something?
Whatever you want to make of that.
Yeah I read that, too.
I have nothing to say about it though. I mean, that guy could tell Smashboards that Pichu is the most powerful character of all, and they'd all buy it.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=256
Edit: fixed link
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
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Anyway tonight I predict Newcomer Wolf~. Wednesday is for new characters, right?
Oh, I mean Lucario. Lucario will probably be announced before wolf since he's already kind of out there.
Err, that's why people think adding characters will shift everybody over. That's the only logical way for them to end up organized.
Wrong page.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=256
edit: I like how he pokes fun at his own shitty delays between updates.
Those who have followed the 2chan thread say that he is going to post new videos friday (japan time).
It just seems so complex.
why design the page, so that everything looks all messy, so it can be cleaned up. Melee didn't do that. Melee looked clean and organized at start, and at finish.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Let's say character tonight. I cannot commit to a specific one, though.
"You can pause the action? C-can this be real?"
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various07.html
Maybe tonight he'll be like, "I already showed this in a previous update, but I'd like to go into more detail this time..." like with the Meta Knight Special Moves update.
Desperate attempts at rationalization? Absolutely, but I'll take what I can get, at least for the next 1.5 weeks. Oh, here's a question. Come the Japanese release, we'll surely find complete character lists almost immediately, as everyone here anticipates. Fine, but won't the number of leaks expand exponentially as well? How will we sift the real ones from the fakes? Or will we rely on Japanese-based gamers and importers among the collective here?