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Eee PC: anyone have one?

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm not sure. I think it's 1024x768, but I could be mistaken. Let's just use that as an estimate as the projector in my room is that resolution.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Then yes, they'll more likely than not handle that as long as they have the proper outputs. The size of the projector itself isn't an issue because the projector does the heavy lifting there. Just the resolution.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm not sure. I think it's 1024x768, but I could be mistaken. Let's just use that as an estimate as the projector in my room is that resolution.

    You'll be fine; I've hooked up my Eee 901 to a 1280x1024 monitor without any issues.

    Hell, the panel on this thing is 1024x600.

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  • Helpless RockHelpless Rock Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So, my EEE PC has been pretty awesome since i've gotten it. However, recently I've been having shitty wifi connections with no real explanation as to why. I don't have my router as a completely non option for the problem but I'll be sitting in my bedroom (router in the living room roughly 30 feet from my small apartment) and have a connection either very low or just not working. Like right now. (had to reset to get it to work again). is this a none issue with the EEE PC (1000H) that is fixable or is it actually with no router? My girlfriend can be sitting directly next to me on her laptop and get a connection of Very Good. Even my ipod touch seems to get a decently higher speed than my computer.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The wireless card in the Eee 1000 isn't the best, you'll see better signal if you replace it with a better card.

    Intel 5300 WiFi Link made a huge difference for me. Same router, same settings, same distance, and 1.5-2x better signal after I switched. Also has 3x3 MIMO (I put the third antenna in the bottom to make it easy, existing two are on either side of the screen). And somehow it's more power efficient at the same time.

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  • Dr. GeroDr. Gero Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    precisionk wrote: »
    Anyone suggest any games that would work perfectly on the 1000h

    Here is an extensive list of all tested games that work on netbooks (including FPS, resolution, min RAM, etc):

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p9_nCgKqvCF0NzPi1oOvVOw


    Also, is it a good time to buy an Acer Aspire One or should I wait for new technology to be released? My need for a netbook isn't urgent but I'd like to have one by the start of the Spring 2009 semester (for taking notes and grinding WoW quests).

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited November 2008
    This is my Acer Aspire One / MacBook Nano

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    The cost of the unit was 350 for the base model at tiger direct, ~20-30 bucks for a 1 gig memorgy dimm, 40 bucks for the Mini PCI airport card for the mac pro (works like a charm), 20 bucks for a USB bluetooth dongle that sits inside the port, and 80 bucks for a 9 cell battery, which does the awesome job of angling the keyboard a wee bit.

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    And oh yeah, if I max the internal fan out, it can run wow competently. Not an instance or Dalaran... but I can park and chat, or run around the mainland no issues.

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  • ginguskahnginguskahn Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    This is my Acer Aspire One / MacBook Nano

    [IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albu ms/c201/synd alis/photo-16.jpg[/IMG]

    The cost of the unit was 350 for the base model at tiger direct, ~20-30 bucks for a 1 gig memorgy dimm, 40 bucks for the Mini PCI airport card for the mac pro (works like a charm), 20 bucks for a USB bluetooth dongle that sits inside the port, and 80 bucks for a 9 cell battery, which does the awesome job of angling the keyboard a wee bit.

    [IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/alb ums/c201/syndalis/Picture1-2.png[/IMG]

    And oh yeah, if I max the internal fan out, it can run wow competently. Not an instance or Dalaran... but I can park and chat, or run around the mainland no issues.

    Its beautiful *sheds a tear*

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanks :D

    It really all was fairly well paved road I walked on to do this, though getting to the memory / mini-PCI was an effort in extreme frustration. They did not design this guy to be upgraded, thats for damn sure.

    All that is missing now are the SD card slots (of which there are kexts in the work as we speak) and I cannot get the unit to "sleep," and must power down when I am done and power up when I want to use it.

    Considering it takes ~30-40 seconds to power up, small price to pay. Though an immediate up from sleep would be very much preferred.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Dr. Gero wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    Anyone suggest any games that would work perfectly on the 1000h

    Here is an extensive list of all tested games that work on netbooks (including FPS, resolution, min RAM, etc):

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p9_nCgKqvCF0NzPi1oOvVOw


    Also, is it a good time to buy an Acer Aspire One or should I wait for new technology to be released? My need for a netbook isn't urgent but I'd like to have one by the start of the Spring 2009 semester (for taking notes and grinding WoW quests).
    I would wait. There are just so many models and changes on the horizon that Christmas time should give you some good options.

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  • Dr. GeroDr. Gero Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ah, thank you for the tip. I was looking at Newegg's listing of the Aspire Ones today, and came close to splurging $400. Ultra-portable laptop that can run MS Office, surf the tubes, and play WoW? My resolve wavered. :|

    Generally, how do most netbooks perform (on Windows) with anti-virus and firewall software installed and running in the background?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr. Gero wrote: »
    Generally, how do most netbooks perform (on Windows) with anti-virus and firewall software installed and running in the background?

    Not as well as they perform under Linux, generally.

    I'll have hard figures later this week when I get my 901 dual-booting.

    Also, another thing to remember is that pretty much every decent netbook on the market right now is running the same CPU, graphics chip, northbridge, RAM, and screen resolution, so what will run on one will generally run on another unless you found an exception to the above.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I have Linux but I can give you some insight...
    I can upgrade my 512mb to 2 gigs for $25. I don't think 2 gigs would steangle any anti-virus or firrewall.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I have Linux but I can give you some insight...
    I can upgrade my 512mb to 2 gigs for $25. I don't think 2 gigs would steangle any anti-virus or firrewall.

    It's generally CPU load (and disk I/O, if you're on an SSD) that you need to worry about, not RAM. (Like you said, RAM is cheap as chips.)

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm wrong but I learned something.
    Always a good combination!

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited December 2008
    highest I can take my aspire one to is 1.5 gigs... but you really don't need more than that in this form factor.

    Also, WoW runs like poop under OSX, but quite well under windows. Blame it on the lack of an Apple DirectX, and the shittiness of the GMA950 graphics drivers for OSX86.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Holy shit, installing Windows from USB is the biggest pain in the ass thing I've ever encountered, ever.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited December 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Holy shit, installing Windows from USB is the biggest pain in the ass thing I've ever encountered, ever.

    external dvd drive, man.

    what were you thinking.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Holy shit, installing Windows from USB is the biggest pain in the ass thing I've ever encountered, ever.

    Yeah, I think I made a similar post a few days ago when I did it. I called it stupid stupid stupid, which doesn't even convey the amount of stupid it involves. It's beyond words.

    However after hours of Google searching and banging my head into the wall, I found a really easy way of doing it.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Holy shit, installing Windows from USB is the biggest pain in the ass thing I've ever encountered, ever.

    external dvd drive, man.

    what were you thinking.

    I was thinking, "Shit, I don't have an external DVD drive, nor do I have an IDE->USB or SATA->USB dookickey. If I did, this would have taken ten minutes instead of all day."

    Although, setting up a dualboot where you install Windows last is always a bit tricky. Still, this is ridiculous.

    Later I'll post a walkthrough up in this thread for other people.

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    MSI Wind u100 439US and 411US are identical in stats, but not price.

    Please explain why

    There's a $50 rebate that ends today on both, and I have to know which is better and why they are both exactly the same to the untrained eye.

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  • DolbyDigitalDolbyDigital Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    anybody having poor performance with their touchpad? I have a 701 with 1gb of ram, and the touchpad seems to stutter and skip a lot.

    Thoughts?

    Also, i want to put xp on this thing... i have nLite'd my xp and it is on a usb stick, but i can't make sense of the method in the link above...is there an idiot's guide? i dont have access to an external DVD player...

    Thanks in advance.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Also, it seems that if you install Windows XP to the larger, slower SSD in the 901, it runs really astonishingly poorly.

    I've really got to get around to installing a 1.8" HDD in this thing.

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  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    So I got my EeePC and am loving it so far except for one thing, I wish this thing had Vista.
    I got the 900ha so if I was to upgrade the RAM would I be able to run Vista without my computer melting into goo?

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  • ZerounZeroun Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    So I got my EeePC and am loving it so far except for one thing, I wish this thing had Vista.
    I got the 900ha so if I was to upgrade the RAM would I be able to run Vista without my computer melting into goo?

    Currently running a vLited Vista install on my 901, working like a charm with 1gb after stripping every non-essential thing from it and disabling some services.

    edit: The only trouble with is the winsxs-directory that grows to insane sizes (8gigs on my desktop) over time, but I think 900ha has a bigger hard drive than my 4gb SSD.

    edit2: Oh, and installing vista from a USB-stick is a million times easier than XP

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Can get an Asus n10j-A1 (or any netbook) today only for 30% off using live.com's CashBack.

    I just got the n10j (regularly $700) for $400 after the cashback and another 10% off paypal coupon

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    How to install Windows XP on your EEE without fucking up your existing Linux installation

    There are a wide range of reasons someone might want Windows on their eee. Perhaps you want to play a game that isn't well supported under Wine. Or perhaps... hmm... well, okay, that's the only reason I can really think of. Anyway, here's how to get Windows on the larger, slower SSD without screwing up your Linux installation on your smaller, faster SSD.

    1) First, let's assume you've got Linux installed the way most people do on these things, with / mounted on the small SSD and /home mounted on the larger one. We need to move /home onto the smaller ssd. For this trick, you will need to log in as root. Yes, yes, I know, you've heard advice like "never log in as root" or "if you log in as root, ninjas will murder you in your sleep", but it's literally the only way to do this without having to fuck around with booting from USB or some shit. So, if you're under Ubuntu or some other root-disabled distro, enable root:

    sudo passwd root

    and then go into your GDM options and make sure that the "local administrator" can log on. Or the equivalent for KDM, SLIM, XDM, or whatever you use.

    2) Make sure that all your Linux crap will fit inside 4GB. Both the / and /home drives should add up to no more than 4GB (preferably a bit less to give you breathing room). You can use the "df -H" command in a terminal window to check on how much of each drive is free.

    3) Log out, and log in as root.

    Now, edit /etc/fstab:

    gedit /etc/fstab

    and comment out the line that has /home in it.

    Then, unmount home:

    umount /home

    and mount it somewhere else:

    mkdir /media/tmp
    mount /dev/sdb1 /media/tmp

    Copy over all your stuff.

    cp -r /media/tmp/username /home/username

    Then, fix the ownership permissions.

    chown -R username:username /home/username/*
    chown -R username:username /home/username/.*

    4) Log out of root, and log back in with your regular username to make sure it all worked.

    5) Fire up gparted and reformat your larger SSD as NTFS.

    6) Copy all the files from a Windows XP install disc to the larger SSD. (You can use an nLite'd disk, if you want.)

    7) Create a BartPE bootable USB thingy. Good luck, this is an ordeal in and of itself.

    8) Go into the BIOS and disable the master SSD, leaving only the slave, so the Windows installer doesn't shit on your existing Linux installation.

    9) Boot to BartPE, open a command line, go to where you copied all those Windows XP files, and run the winnt32.exe program in the i386 folder. If it asks you to "migrate to NTFS", tell it "no".

    10) Reboot and remove that USB stick. You should boot to the Windows installer. Follow the directions from here, rebooting when necessary.

    11) Okay, you've got Windows installed. Download and install the Asus Eee Windows drivers.

    12) Now it's time to get your Linux partition back. Go into the "disk options" in the BIOS.

    13) Notice that there's no real way to turn the master SSD back on.

    14) Have a small heart attack.

    15) Go over to the tab all the way on the right, and choose "Restore default BIOS settings"

    16) You're done, sort of. You'll now default to booting to Linux, and you can press escape while booting (when the Eee logo is up, before Grub/Linux starts) to select the other SSD and boot Windows. Or you can fuck around with /boot/grub/menu.lst to add Windows to the grub menu, but I couldn't do that without getting Error 17 over and over.

    edit:

    17) Marvel at how goddamn slow Windows runs off of the slow SSD, and pity the poor bastards who bought that one 900 model that only had the slow drive, with no fast one.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    My grandpa wants a netbook now. He isn't into computers at all and it will be used for limited internet, (again limited) e-mail, and video card games.
    What is the cheapest 9'' I can get for him? I'm looking at the Eee 900HA for $329 shipped and the MSI Wind for $299 shipped after a rebate. Anything else I should check out based soley on price?

    Edit: Aspire One for $250 shipped? Done.

    Edit 2: No, crap. He wants Windows.

    This guy still uses dialup AOL... I really wish I lived closer and could actually help him with this.

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The EEE is, mechanically, the same machine as the MSI Wind, right?

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ego wrote: »
    The EEE is, mechanically, the same machine as the MSI Wind, right?
    What do you mean "mechanically"? It shares many of the same components of the Eee 1000H (as well as just about every other netbook out there right now), but the actual design isn't the same. They are made by different companies. The chassis of the notebook is designed differently, as well as the keyboard and a bunch of other differences you would expect.

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I mean the innards are the same. This isn't right then? Different motherboards? I mean I know the CPU is the same and they're both running on the same chipset but I thought from the sound of early reviews that they were, internally, the same machines but with different chassis'.

    I ask because apparently it's no real issue to install OS-X on the wind, so if the EEE has the same innards...

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ahh, okay. I don't know about the exact motherboard, but the chipset is the same. I've heard of people installing OS X on the Eee PCs as well, so I imagine you'd be able to do it.

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Woo, then I just need a mod that makes an EEE pc chime musically as soon as I turn it on.

    I used to have a motherboard that would scream (through my speakers, and much louder than sound was in windows at the same volume) 'POWER ON SELF TEST!' in a creepy girl-robot voice when I turned it on. Not quite the same.

    Ego on
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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I believe the problem is the wireless drivers, no such drivers exist for the Eee's card for Mac. This is not the case with the MSI Wind's default card, which is an Atheros (might be wrong on this) and is supported natively since that's the same card they put in Macbook's. The EEE 1000's (all variants) come with cards from RaLink.

    edit: I'd strike that if I could but we don't have [/strike] here. Intel cards apparently don't work in Mac OS X still...you'd have to track down an Atheros card or find another vendor with Mac drivers. It's pretty hard to find though since Mac's aren't really supposed to need drivers, everything is Apple approved hardware and supported natively.

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  • Mustachio JonesMustachio Jones jerseyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 701 has an Atheros card in it.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    17) Marvel at how goddamn slow Windows runs off of the slow SSD, and pity the poor bastards who bought that one 900 model that only had the slow drive, with no fast one.

    I've got a 900a (1.6GHz Atom, 1GB RAM), which has a 4GB SSD (the model with the slow drive, and no fast one), and I don't have any performance issues. There are a few tricks you can do to gain an immense amount of performance, stuff like formatting the drive in FAT32, turning off disk cacheing/search indexing, switching Windows Update to manual, and other things. I'm running WinFLP instead of WinXP, so that helps as well, but performance tricks carry across between the two.

    A fresh install will be bog slow, but if you spend a few minutes configuring the system in a way that actually makes sense given the eeePC's specs, you'll be fine. The goal is to disable anything that writes to disk without a good reason.

    edit: Where are you guys getting your RAM from, anyway? I have 1GB already, but for gaming any performance gain I can get would be great. Where is the cheapest place to pick up a 2GB stick for a 900a?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    17) Marvel at how goddamn slow Windows runs off of the slow SSD, and pity the poor bastards who bought that one 900 model that only had the slow drive, with no fast one.

    I've got a 900a (1.6GHz Atom, 1GB RAM), which has a 4GB SSD (the model with the slow drive, and no fast one), and I don't have any performance issues. There are a few tricks you can do to gain an immense amount of performance, stuff like formatting the drive in FAT32, turning off disk cacheing/search indexing, switching Windows Update to manual, and other things. I'm running WinFLP instead of WinXP, so that helps as well, but performance tricks carry across between the two.

    A fresh install will be bog slow, but if you spend a few minutes configuring the system in a way that actually makes sense given the eeePC's specs, you'll be fine. The goal is to disable anything that writes to disk without a good reason.

    edit: Where are you guys getting your RAM from, anyway? I have 1GB already, but for gaming any performance gain I can get would be great. Where is the cheapest place to pick up a 2GB stick for a 900a?

    My plan to speed it up is to just rip out that slow flash drive and put in a 1.8" hard drive instead.

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    17) Marvel at how goddamn slow Windows runs off of the slow SSD, and pity the poor bastards who bought that one 900 model that only had the slow drive, with no fast one.

    I've got a 900a (1.6GHz Atom, 1GB RAM), which has a 4GB SSD (the model with the slow drive, and no fast one), and I don't have any performance issues. There are a few tricks you can do to gain an immense amount of performance, stuff like formatting the drive in FAT32, turning off disk cacheing/search indexing, switching Windows Update to manual, and other things. I'm running WinFLP instead of WinXP, so that helps as well, but performance tricks carry across between the two.

    A fresh install will be bog slow, but if you spend a few minutes configuring the system in a way that actually makes sense given the eeePC's specs, you'll be fine. The goal is to disable anything that writes to disk without a good reason.

    edit: Where are you guys getting your RAM from, anyway? I have 1GB already, but for gaming any performance gain I can get would be great. Where is the cheapest place to pick up a 2GB stick for a 900a?

    RAM isn't going to be your bottleneck, the CPU is. Those Intel Atom's aren't made for gaming, and they choke pretty bad on some games. RAM will show slight improvement, but if the CPU can't handle it, it can't handle it.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    My plan to speed it up is to just rip out that slow flash drive and put in a 1.8" hard drive instead.

    That would work.

    Kinda kills all of the the benefits of having an SSD, but you would see a definite performance increase. Your battery life will suffer and it'll be a lot hotter and noisier, though.

    But, in terms of bang for your buck, you'll get considerably more space with a conventional drive as well.
    GPIA7R wrote: »
    RAM isn't going to be your bottleneck, the CPU is. Those Intel Atom's aren't made for gaming, and they choke pretty bad on some games. RAM will show slight improvement, but if the CPU can't handle it, it can't handle it.

    The CPU isn't the bottleneck so much as the Intel 945 is.

    But

    I know that a 1.6GHz Atom is performance rated much lower than that, but adding RAM is still the easiest and cheapest upgrade you can do (and, in terms of a netbook, usually the only upgrade you can do).

    And by no means do I mean modern gaming. People seem to forget that PC games didn't just show up last year. There's over twenty years worth of PC games that will run on a netbook. If I can drop a few bucks and score a few extra frames in Audiosurf while making my OS run smoother at the same time than good deal.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    My plan to speed it up is to just rip out that slow flash drive and put in a 1.8" hard drive instead.

    That would work.

    Kinda kills all of the the benefits of having an SSD, but you would see a definite performance increase. Your battery life will suffer and it'll be a lot hotter and noisier, though.

    But, in terms of bang for your buck, you'll get considerably more space with a conventional drive as well.

    Nonono, it's brilliant. I keep the little, fast SSD (probably faster than any hard drive I'll put in, really) for my Linux install, which is where I do everything that isn't gaming anyway. So for normal use, I've still got the quiet, low power computer, and it only gets hot and noisy (and really, it won't be anywhere near as bad as my last laptop anyway) when I'm gaming on it or whatever.

    edit: the only problem is that my eee doesn't have that ZIF connector on it (I guess Asus needed to save ten cents or whatever) so I've got some delicate soldering to do, I guess. I'm a little worried about that.

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