I've got no camera (other than the one on the laptop), but I'll definitely take notes.
The only thing I'm really worried about is soldering the ZIF connector onto my laptop motherboard, but looking at the pads where it goes it doesn't look too bad: they're spaced much better than most surface mount stuff. I'll still probably need a finer tip for my soldering iron and a whole lot of flux.
I kinda wish mine came with the ZIF connector already on there, like some did, but I guess I undersand Asus's point: it's not being used by default, and if you save fifty cents per unit on a million units you start talking about real money.
So I am digging up on the 10" screen size and am trying to find the right netbook for me. Lenovo S10, MSI wind, Samsung NC10 or ASUS we have too many models to keep track of serial numbersHA? What should I choose? They are all very similar so it comes down to build quality, RAM capabilty, touchpad/keyboard response, etc. What company should get my precious moneys?
Also, I did that trick where I moved my steam folder from my hard drive to a USB stick, so now I can install games without demolishing any more space on my paltry 4GB SSD. Playing Opposing Force was sort of weird, though, since the game ran smooth as butter until I turn on the night vision, and it slows down a little. Not much, just enough to be noticible.
I also bought a used copy of the original Unreal for $2.50 at a local music/games shop. I've been having a blast going through all of these games I missed out on. Installing them is a [strike]chore[/strike] pain in the ass, though, since I still don't have an external optical drive, so I have to make an .iso on another system and transfer it to mine.
But seriously though, cheapest place online to buy RAM? The jump from 1GB to 2GB may not be much, but it will still be worth it if it's cheap enough. That, and I figure I could then sell my 1GB stick to someone who bought a 512MB system.
So, I got the day off and I am gonna run all over town looking at stuff, Best Buy to look at the MSI wind and whatever ASUS models the have, Circuit City to check out the Lenovo S10. I wish that their was somewhere around here to check out those Samsung NCs because they seem to be reviewing real well. Hopefully I will be able to make a decision after holding some of these things in my hands.
I've had my 1000H for two months, but I don't think I'm ever going to get used to working on it.
I spend a lot of time writing in front of a screen and it still feels like a chore
I'm now posting from my new eee 1000, running ubuntu eee. It's nice so far, but it'll take some getting used to.
I have one minor problem so far- the find function in firefox doesn't work. I tried ctrl-f, and I tried selecting it from the edit menu, but the search bar just doesn't appear. I don't know if this is a problem with the eee/resolution, ubuntu, firefox, or some combination, so I'm having trouble pinning it down with google.
Lame. Move to Eugene where all the cool kids are. Actually don't, the economy here is shit. I'd move to Portland immediately if I had the money. How is the job market up there, anyway?
It will be a lot easier to make a decision when you're able to actually demo the models you're looking at. I was torn between the eee and another model, but actually being able to use both of them in person made my decision much easier.
Also, fraz, what issues are you having with your screen? Is it just the size, or the resolution? 1024x600 takes some getting used to. Remember that if you're running an XP-based OS you can use Ctrl-Alt-arrow key to switch your screen's orientation. If you were to set it on it's side and use a USB Keyboard it might make extensive typing a little easier. Here is an example using a webpage, but you get the idea. It makes it look more like you're typing onto/reading a page from a book.
My God, I know Circuit City is failing and store closings abound, but today's trip to fondle some netbooks was grim. Sparely stocked shelves, even with partitions blocking off half of the former sales floor. Disturbed and hungry sales staff hovering like drugstore cowboys looking for a fix. Desperately handing out fliers to let you know they will match their own website's prices in store. (I took one from every redshirt, pitying their once mighty electronics empire.) The Lenovo and Avertech netbooks were locked in little cages, missing keys, running some kind of firedog demo, unable to show their paces, begging for release. I felt as if I was in some kind of pre-90's K-mart or perhaps a second world country, guiltily buying an overpriced 8gig thumbdrive for fear that the 8 employees that helped me browse would not eat tonight.
Seriously though, The Lenovo has the most solid build out of any of the current crop. It is like holding a Glock. A Glock with a 3 cell battery and no bluetooth, but a piece of ordinance all the same.
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How is the job market up there, anyway?
Depends on your industry but there are a lot of tech/web design/freelance for Nike jobs to be had. Some cool little gaming startups too. Good luck finding a house here though. Rents are through the roof expensive. Damn you California.
A friend of mien is looking into buying the 1000HA but she wants to run photoshop. I don't know much about the Atom processor itself, but my concern is more of that of the memory. It's only 1gb. Is there an expansion slot for memory (to be able to get a 1gb stick) or do you need to replace the stick that's in there now (buying a 2gb)?
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I own the 1000H, and it is very easy to upgrade. You remove a slot on the bottom, pop the 1gig stick out, plug in a 2gig stick, reboot and update it in BIOS, and that's it. You do have to replace the original stick, as there is no expansion. I think the 1000HA is very similar, so I believe it'd be just as easy. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
As for photoshop, I don't see it being a problem. It won't run super fast or anything, but it should be fine.
Adobe lists the RAM requirement for Photoshop CS4 at a mere 512, they recommend a gig. They actually do list the processor requirement at 1.8Ghz, Atom N270 (in the eee's) runs at 1.6Ghz. It's not like it won't run, just don't expect it to be quick.
Guys, are netbooks powerful enough to run HD video on if I were to plug one into the VGA port on an HDTV?
No. My Asus 1000H struggles with Hulu HD at its native resolution. Can't imagine going full screen on a HDTV. The integrated graphics are just not up to snuff.
Guys, are netbooks powerful enough to run HD video on if I were to plug one into the VGA port on an HDTV?
No. My Asus 1000H struggles with Hulu HD at its native resolution. Can't imagine going full screen on a HDTV. The integrated graphics are just not up to snuff.
Hulu is a pretty bad example and probably not what most people are thinking of running when they hook it up to their TV to play HD content. It's a flash player which uses a lot more processing power than say, Media Player Classic to play the same content.
My EEE1000 is more than capable of running 720p H.264 video with Mplayer and the CoreAVC codec. 1080p no, but 720p yes.
It's built-in. Netbooks don't come with a removable stick of ram, they just come with a single empty slot for a 1gb upgrade
My impression was exactly the opposite... that the ASUS1000 series has only ONE slot, and you must replace the 1 gig stick with a 2 gig stick...
I don't know what this guy is talking about; no netbook I know of has an empty slot. Every Asus model, at least, has one slot that starts out full, except for the really old 2GB 700 series one where it was soldered on.
Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz processor
Intel 945GSE+ICH7M chipset
512MB on board RAM
120GB SATA hard drive
8.9" 1024 x 600 WSVGA LCD Panel display with anti-glare
UMA graphics card
Built-in 802.11b/g WLAN Card
10/100Base-T Ethernet
4-in-1 Card Reader for SD, MMC, MS, and MSpro
Ports include Graphics Card Output (15-pin, D-Sub) x 1, USB 2.0 x 3, Mic-in port x 1/line-in port x 1, headphone output X 1, Ethernet x 1
HD audio with stereo speakers
Ergonomic big-size bilingual keyboard (English, Canadian French) and touch pad
0.3MP webcam
Linux Multi Language
Li-Ion 3-cells battery
Includes white protect bag and AC adapter
19 - 31.5(H) x 260(W) x 180(D) mm
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It's built-in. Netbooks don't come with a removable stick of ram, they just come with a single empty slot for a 1gb upgrade
Wrong, not all of them. My 900A doesn't have soldered ram, just one accessible slot with the entire 1GB it has in there.
Odd. I must have just been referring to the MSI Wind, sorry for the mixup. The MSI Wind has the 1gb built-in memory, and a slot under the hood that you can put another 1gb in to make it 2gb
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Guys, are netbooks powerful enough to run HD video on if I were to plug one into the VGA port on an HDTV?
No. My Asus 1000H struggles with Hulu HD at its native resolution. Can't imagine going full screen on a HDTV. The integrated graphics are just not up to snuff.
Hulu is a pretty bad example and probably not what most people are thinking of running when they hook it up to their TV to play HD content. It's a flash player which uses a lot more processing power than say, Media Player Classic to play the same content.
My EEE1000 is more than capable of running 720p H.264 video with Mplayer and the CoreAVC codec. 1080p no, but 720p yes.
Well I have tried to run several blu-ray/HD transfers on my 1000H (with the Mplayer and CoreAVC codec) and while it works it doesn't work well and stutters frequently. Not sure what else you are doing to get good running video on your EEE but on mine playback sucks.
I also just figured out the other day that Speedstep and the Asus performance app were all screwy and I have been running at 800Mhz for a long time. I'd also played many an episode of Dexter when it was like that so uh... o_O
Ok netbook and linux n00b here. Anyway I grabbed a 900 the other day and put Ubuntu on it. I'm having some trouble though its a 16g and it came with windows on it, and for some reason i cant just click on the other 8g ssd to access it when I do I get an error that has reading about it being a windows drive. Do I need to format that badboy somehow to get ahold of the space?
Also I have a 4gb microsdhc that I popped in but it says I can't access that because I'm not a superuser. What am I forgetting to do here?
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edit: Make sure and take pictures and notes during the process so you can make a tutorial for others.
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The only thing I'm really worried about is soldering the ZIF connector onto my laptop motherboard, but looking at the pads where it goes it doesn't look too bad: they're spaced much better than most surface mount stuff. I'll still probably need a finer tip for my soldering iron and a whole lot of flux.
I kinda wish mine came with the ZIF connector already on there, like some did, but I guess I undersand Asus's point: it's not being used by default, and if you save fifty cents per unit on a million units you start talking about real money.
It's an "undocumented feature." Cheers. :P
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No problem.
Back on topic though, has anyone heard more on the "netbook + discrete graphics" market? I thought ASUS had optioned the 9400M ...
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Oh. I see now.
I've tried before, but it's something that has to be added to vB, and I've never seen it not be strike.
What part of Oregon do you live in?
Also, I did that trick where I moved my steam folder from my hard drive to a USB stick, so now I can install games without demolishing any more space on my paltry 4GB SSD. Playing Opposing Force was sort of weird, though, since the game ran smooth as butter until I turn on the night vision, and it slows down a little. Not much, just enough to be noticible.
I also bought a used copy of the original Unreal for $2.50 at a local music/games shop. I've been having a blast going through all of these games I missed out on. Installing them is a [strike]chore[/strike] pain in the ass, though, since I still don't have an external optical drive, so I have to make an .iso on another system and transfer it to mine.
But seriously though, cheapest place online to buy RAM? The jump from 1GB to 2GB may not be much, but it will still be worth it if it's cheap enough. That, and I figure I could then sell my 1GB stick to someone who bought a 512MB system.
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I spend a lot of time writing in front of a screen and it still feels like a chore
Portland, natch.
So, I got the day off and I am gonna run all over town looking at stuff, Best Buy to look at the MSI wind and whatever ASUS models the have, Circuit City to check out the Lenovo S10. I wish that their was somewhere around here to check out those Samsung NCs because they seem to be reviewing real well. Hopefully I will be able to make a decision after holding some of these things in my hands.
I have one minor problem so far- the find function in firefox doesn't work. I tried ctrl-f, and I tried selecting it from the edit menu, but the search bar just doesn't appear. I don't know if this is a problem with the eee/resolution, ubuntu, firefox, or some combination, so I'm having trouble pinning it down with google.
Lame. Move to Eugene where all the cool kids are. Actually don't, the economy here is shit. I'd move to Portland immediately if I had the money. How is the job market up there, anyway?
It will be a lot easier to make a decision when you're able to actually demo the models you're looking at. I was torn between the eee and another model, but actually being able to use both of them in person made my decision much easier.
Also, fraz, what issues are you having with your screen? Is it just the size, or the resolution? 1024x600 takes some getting used to. Remember that if you're running an XP-based OS you can use Ctrl-Alt-arrow key to switch your screen's orientation. If you were to set it on it's side and use a USB Keyboard it might make extensive typing a little easier. Here is an example using a webpage, but you get the idea. It makes it look more like you're typing onto/reading a page from a book.
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Seriously though, The Lenovo has the most solid build out of any of the current crop. It is like holding a Glock. A Glock with a 3 cell battery and no bluetooth, but a piece of ordinance all the same.
*EDIT* Depends on your industry but there are a lot of tech/web design/freelance for Nike jobs to be had. Some cool little gaming startups too. Good luck finding a house here though. Rents are through the roof expensive. Damn you California.
A friend of mien is looking into buying the 1000HA but she wants to run photoshop. I don't know much about the Atom processor itself, but my concern is more of that of the memory. It's only 1gb. Is there an expansion slot for memory (to be able to get a 1gb stick) or do you need to replace the stick that's in there now (buying a 2gb)?
As for photoshop, I don't see it being a problem. It won't run super fast or anything, but it should be fine.
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1000HA is the same, there's just one slot.
What the hell kind of memory is it? I find it very odd I can't find that spec for the memory.
No. My Asus 1000H struggles with Hulu HD at its native resolution. Can't imagine going full screen on a HDTV. The integrated graphics are just not up to snuff.
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Wrong, not all of them. My 900A doesn't have soldered ram, just one accessible slot with the entire 1GB it has in there.
My impression was exactly the opposite... that the ASUS1000 series has only ONE slot, and you must replace the 1 gig stick with a 2 gig stick...
Hulu is a pretty bad example and probably not what most people are thinking of running when they hook it up to their TV to play HD content. It's a flash player which uses a lot more processing power than say, Media Player Classic to play the same content.
My EEE1000 is more than capable of running 720p H.264 video with Mplayer and the CoreAVC codec. 1080p no, but 720p yes.
I don't know what this guy is talking about; no netbook I know of has an empty slot. Every Asus model, at least, has one slot that starts out full, except for the really old 2GB 700 series one where it was soldered on.
This is what came in my eee 1000h. Looks be to DDR2 667 (PC5300).
MSI Wind U90 for $290 at Staples. Online only.
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Intel 945GSE+ICH7M chipset
512MB on board RAM
120GB SATA hard drive
8.9" 1024 x 600 WSVGA LCD Panel display with anti-glare
UMA graphics card
Built-in 802.11b/g WLAN Card
10/100Base-T Ethernet
4-in-1 Card Reader for SD, MMC, MS, and MSpro
Ports include Graphics Card Output (15-pin, D-Sub) x 1, USB 2.0 x 3, Mic-in port x 1/line-in port x 1, headphone output X 1, Ethernet x 1
HD audio with stereo speakers
Ergonomic big-size bilingual keyboard (English, Canadian French) and touch pad
0.3MP webcam
Linux Multi Language
Li-Ion 3-cells battery
Includes white protect bag and AC adapter
19 - 31.5(H) x 260(W) x 180(D) mm
1.0kg
Empire Black.
1-Year Limited Warranty.
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The majority of Netbooks (including, if I remember correctly, every EEE since the 70x) ship with sockets, not soldered RAM.
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ASUS Eee PC Eee PC 900HA XP
1GB RAM
160GB HD
1.60 GHz
4-cell lithium ion
0.3 MP webcam (don't need it)
It's $20 cheaper.
Odd. I must have just been referring to the MSI Wind, sorry for the mixup. The MSI Wind has the 1gb built-in memory, and a slot under the hood that you can put another 1gb in to make it 2gb
Actually that's what we ended up doing
Well I have tried to run several blu-ray/HD transfers on my 1000H (with the Mplayer and CoreAVC codec) and while it works it doesn't work well and stutters frequently. Not sure what else you are doing to get good running video on your EEE but on mine playback sucks.
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I also just figured out the other day that Speedstep and the Asus performance app were all screwy and I have been running at 800Mhz for a long time. I'd also played many an episode of Dexter when it was like that so uh... o_O
Also I have a 4gb microsdhc that I popped in but it says I can't access that because I'm not a superuser. What am I forgetting to do here?