Pet skills still work if they're just in your skill tab, provided they've been turned on.
Well, some of them do. I had to open up my spellbook and click on Heart of the Phoenix, even though it was showing as being on auto-cast, and wasn't on cooldown.
I'm also having trouble with my pets holding aggro even making sure that cower is off. Another hunter in my guild is telling me that it's fine, so long as you MD each mob to your pet. I hate this idea, maybe because I've been playing since release and remember that pets used to be able to hold aggro off of the hunter at the level cap pretty well, for ages (until you were in ~T3 gear). Having to MD every pull is just stupid.
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Pet skills still work if they're just in your skill tab, provided they've been turned on.
Well, some of them do. I had to open up my spellbook and click on Heart of the Phoenix, even though it was showing as being on auto-cast, and wasn't on cooldown.
I believe they changed HotP to not autocast because in 90% of raid circumstances it would just instantly die again, or something like that.
Pet skills still work if they're just in your skill tab, provided they've been turned on.
Well, some of them do. I had to open up my spellbook and click on Heart of the Phoenix, even though it was showing as being on auto-cast, and wasn't on cooldown.
I believe they changed HotP to not autocast because in 90% of raid circumstances it would just instantly die again, or something like that.
HotP isn't the only skill to appear to autocast but not. I've had Rabid both on my pet bar and in the skill book, both show autocast, but the only time it goes off is if I click it. Which is really a pain, considering that there are far too few buttons on the pet bar now for their abilities.
Pet skills still work if they're just in your skill tab, provided they've been turned on.
Well, some of them do. I had to open up my spellbook and click on Heart of the Phoenix, even though it was showing as being on auto-cast, and wasn't on cooldown.
I believe they changed HotP to not autocast because in 90% of raid circumstances it would just instantly die again, or something like that.
HotP isn't the only skill to appear to autocast but not. I've had Rabid both on my pet bar and in the skill book, both show autocast, but the only time it goes off is if I click it. Which is really a pain, considering that there are far too few buttons on the pet bar now for their abilities.
Yeah, I had the same issue with Rabid, and I'm not sure what the deal is.
If the skill doesn't auto-cast, like HotP, you shouldn't be able to activate auto-casting on it. I've also heard that since it's a pet skill, you can't drag it onto your bars, and obviously with the pet dead, you can't use it if it's on their bars either... brilliant.
The Rabid thing must be a bug, I'm hoping that it can be fixed, since it's ridiculous to make hunters micro-manage it.
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If the skill doesn't auto-cast, like HotP, you shouldn't be able to activate auto-casting on it. I've also heard that since it's a pet skill, you can't drag it onto your bars, and obviously with the pet dead, you can't use it if it's on their bars either... brilliant.
The Rabid thing must be a bug, I'm hoping that it can be fixed, since it's ridiculous to make hunters micro-manage it.
I have made a simple macro for HotP , /cast Heart of the phoenix, and put it on my hotbars. That works like a charm.
Rabid can also be worked into a steady shot macro. I use the following that I picked up at EJ.
A DPS pet has never done so much damage that causing too much threat has been a problem (with growl turned off).
Looks like someone's never been in a PuG.
Actually... unless Omen was lying, my kitty was behind only a Destro warlock at the #3 position on threat a minute or so into Council tonight, with a 50/11/0 spec.
A DPS pet has never done so much damage that causing too much threat has been a problem (with growl turned off).
Looks like someone's never been in a PuG.
Actually... unless Omen was lying, my kitty was behind only a Destro warlock at the #3 position on threat a minute or so into Council tonight, with a 50/11/0 spec.
With my gimpy 51/10 spec my cat kept overtaking the tanks on threat constantly in ZA, on trash, before I realised growl was annoyingly on in the spellbook. And even afterwards it pu out a ton of threat, with cower off. So it might actually have some uses in raids.
A DPS pet has never done so much damage that causing too much threat has been a problem (with growl turned off).
Looks like someone's never been in a PuG.
Actually... unless Omen was lying, my kitty was behind only a Destro warlock at the #3 position on threat a minute or so into Council tonight, with a 50/11/0 spec.
With my gimpy 51/10 spec my cat kept overtaking the tanks on threat constantly in ZA, on trash, before I realised growl was annoyingly on in the spellbook. And even afterwards it pu out a ton of threat, with cower off. So it might actually have some uses in raids.
I should clarify: neither Cower nor Growl were on in this case.
Further clarification: I DC'd once in the middle of that kill, and then for the rest of the night.
A DPS pet has never done so much damage that causing too much threat has been a problem (with growl turned off).
Looks like someone's never been in a PuG.
Actually... unless Omen was lying, my kitty was behind only a Destro warlock at the #3 position on threat a minute or so into Council tonight, with a 50/11/0 spec.
With my gimpy 51/10 spec my cat kept overtaking the tanks on threat constantly in ZA, on trash, before I realised growl was annoyingly on in the spellbook. And even afterwards it pu out a ton of threat, with cower off. So it might actually have some uses in raids.
I should clarify: neither Cower nor Growl were on in this case.
Further clarification: I DC'd once in the middle of that kill, and then for the rest of the night.
To clarify my comment. I didn't mean to disagree. I just wanted to add some further anecdotes about how pets put out a lot of threat right now, with or without growl on.
pets have no negative aggro multipliers, I suppose
most classes have about -50% aggro with raid specs
Tanks still have a huge built in damage->threat modifier. What are these tanks doing that a pet is outdamaging them by like 50%?
And why do other people seem to be experiencing problems with their pets being unable to hold aggro over them with growl on when they're not even going all out?
Hey, can anyone comment on my build? It's specifically a Gorilladin-levelling build, and the remaining points are going into Marks, except the one at 70, which is going to go into Beast Mastery so I can play around with a Chompasorus for a little bit before spec'ing into a PvP Marks build.
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edited October 2008
I tamed a Gorilla and I wanted so badly to name him FuriousGeorge.
pets have no negative aggro multipliers, I suppose
most classes have about -50% aggro with raid specs
Tanks still have a huge built in damage->threat modifier. What are these tanks doing that a pet is outdamaging them by like 50%?
And why do other people seem to be experiencing problems with their pets being unable to hold aggro over them with growl on when they're not even going all out?
Well, at my first Gruul after the patch my pet did 900 dps, with growl probably turned on. Now our tanks still out did it on threat on that fight handily, but it was still third or fourth on the threat meter constantly. In ZA it passed the tanks on trash a few times, mostly due to the fact that it was now so easy that the tanks paid less attention at times, but still, for BM hunters the pet can do silly amounts of dps and hence threat.
Personally I have no problems at all with overggroing when my pet tanks while grinding. It's better than before the patch.
I think you can be excused for calling him "FuriusGeorge". I had one of the undead pigs from EPL and I called him "ForsakenBacn".
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HalfmexI mock your value systemYou also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered Userregular
edited October 2008
I almost just left it as FuriousGeorg but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Blast you, Blizzard! Let me have that one extra character on the pet nameplate!
I almost just left it as FuriousGeorg but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Blast you, Blizzard! Let me have that one extra character on the pet nameplate!
pets have no negative aggro multipliers, I suppose
most classes have about -50% aggro with raid specs
Tanks still have a huge built in damage->threat modifier. What are these tanks doing that a pet is outdamaging them by like 50%?
And why do other people seem to be experiencing problems with their pets being unable to hold aggro over them with growl on when they're not even going all out?
Well, at my first Gruul after the patch my pet did 900 dps, with growl probably turned on. Now our tanks still out did it on threat on that fight handily, but it was still third or fourth on the threat meter constantly. In ZA it passed the tanks on trash a few times, mostly due to the fact that it was now so easy that the tanks paid less attention at times, but still, for BM hunters the pet can do silly amounts of dps and hence threat.
Personally I have no problems at all with overggroing when my pet tanks while grinding. It's better than before the patch.
Neat. Sounds like I need to play my hunter again. I've given him like 30 minutes of attention since 3.0 hit. I suppose my pet was probably a pretty fair portion of my 2700 DPS on the fish boss. Didn't even bother to look at the split.
In TAQ last night I going between 2 and 3 on the DPS meter at about 1400-1600 DPS. The lag was pretty horrible, but I was feeling decent when I saw the other hunter had a good amount of teir 6 and the BT polearm. I am wearing mostly season 2-3 PvP stuff with the 150 badge chicken shooter.
Nrrrg - I cannot wait until I can get the Glyph of Volley - I swear I'm using up so much mana doing the Gorlliadn thing (which by the way rocks faces).
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I'm also having trouble with my pets holding aggro even making sure that cower is off. Another hunter in my guild is telling me that it's fine, so long as you MD each mob to your pet. I hate this idea, maybe because I've been playing since release and remember that pets used to be able to hold aggro off of the hunter at the level cap pretty well, for ages (until you were in ~T3 gear). Having to MD every pull is just stupid.
I believe they changed HotP to not autocast because in 90% of raid circumstances it would just instantly die again, or something like that.
HotP isn't the only skill to appear to autocast but not. I've had Rabid both on my pet bar and in the skill book, both show autocast, but the only time it goes off is if I click it. Which is really a pain, considering that there are far too few buttons on the pet bar now for their abilities.
Yeah, I had the same issue with Rabid, and I'm not sure what the deal is.
The Rabid thing must be a bug, I'm hoping that it can be fixed, since it's ridiculous to make hunters micro-manage it.
I have made a simple macro for HotP , /cast Heart of the phoenix, and put it on my hotbars. That works like a charm.
Rabid can also be worked into a steady shot macro. I use the following that I picked up at EJ.
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Rabid
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
It works just fine, so far, and it's not a spam macro like the old pre 3.0 ones. I just use it like normal SS.
Actually... unless Omen was lying, my kitty was behind only a Destro warlock at the #3 position on threat a minute or so into Council tonight, with a 50/11/0 spec.
With my gimpy 51/10 spec my cat kept overtaking the tanks on threat constantly in ZA, on trash, before I realised growl was annoyingly on in the spellbook. And even afterwards it pu out a ton of threat, with cower off. So it might actually have some uses in raids.
most classes have about -50% aggro with raid specs
I should clarify: neither Cower nor Growl were on in this case.
Further clarification: I DC'd once in the middle of that kill, and then for the rest of the night.
"Who the fuck is Snagglepuss?"
*whistles innocently*
To clarify my comment. I didn't mean to disagree. I just wanted to add some further anecdotes about how pets put out a lot of threat right now, with or without growl on.
And why do other people seem to be experiencing problems with their pets being unable to hold aggro over them with growl on when they're not even going all out?
It's one letter too long for the name bar.
Well, at my first Gruul after the patch my pet did 900 dps, with growl probably turned on. Now our tanks still out did it on threat on that fight handily, but it was still third or fourth on the threat meter constantly. In ZA it passed the tanks on trash a few times, mostly due to the fact that it was now so easy that the tanks paid less attention at times, but still, for BM hunters the pet can do silly amounts of dps and hence threat.
Personally I have no problems at all with overggroing when my pet tanks while grinding. It's better than before the patch.
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Your pet did nine hundred DPS? Screens please.
Pet doing 830 DPS.
Again, I DC'd in the middle of that!
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Popping that sucker close to once every minute sounds like too much fun to pass up.
Fear the giant dino.
FEAR IT.
Fuck fuck fuck, whaddo I do now, OH GOT HE'S EATING ME HE'S EATI...
Nightmares of Un'goro.
Waiting till level 71 for mine. Because at least 1/2 GFTT, even while levelling, is too good to pass up.