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Some Day My Prints Will Come [PHOTO THREAD] (spoiler things and die)

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Just a few things.

    These are taken with a Canon Rebel XT that work had given me when I got here. Anyway, general crits are appreciated.

    This is at a concert. We've got a live band on the island now.
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    This is after New Years fireworks show.
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    I've got one more. I'll post an edit when it has uploaded.

    Edit:
    On a Walkabout.
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  • altmannaltmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    haha long, I JUST replied to your camera thread in help/advice. Why didn't you ask here?!

    Anyhow, the first is really dark. Way underexposed and the DoF is a little distracting.

    I Love the 2nd, it reminds me of a metal album from the 90s or something. The 3rd, is that selective coloring? It's a little confusing.

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I can't say I find any of them very interesting, though the fireworks one definitely jumps out a lot more, because, well, that's what fire does. The first is very dark and a poor angle/poor DoF for what you seemed to be trying to show. The third is a little weird, like altmann pointed out. Did you desat some channels or selectively color? I can see some greens but everything else is nearly grey. If you wanted that kind of effect I think just an even desaturation would have had a better effect - though the subject is uninteresting and the composition is awkward.

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I used to shoot on Ilford Delta and Kodak Tri-X and T-Max. No idea if those are still in production, though.

    Or, if your development is limited to drugstore labs or whatever, you might look at C-41 options for quick turn around.

    I'm pretty sure that the second is a yes, and I'm positive T-Max is still in production (and fairly common) considering that is what I use. Also I would hate to shoot film without a dark room available. That's the fun part!

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, that was just a light desat, not selective coloring. I was post-processing that one and didn't really know quite what I wanted to do with it; and it shows. That first one was just...well, a difficult shot to get and didn't turn out all that well, but I enjoyed the soft look.

    Thanks. I'll keeeeep shooting.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
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    Not a serious photo--but Jamp can't hog all the gun porn

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    altmann wrote: »
    haha long, I JUST replied to your camera thread in help/advice. Why didn't you ask here?!

    Anyhow, the first is really dark. Way underexposed and the DoF is a little distracting.

    I Love the 2nd, it reminds me of a metal album from the 90s or something. The 3rd, is that selective coloring? It's a little confusing.


    Oh man, I was looking at full-frame. But, honestly, I just didn't want to spend that much money on a full frame when I don't really have the glass yet to make it worth it. That and the D200 just seems more rugged for what I need to use it for.

    Full Frame is in the future for me, not the present, and not at these prices.

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  • foursquaremanfoursquareman Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Uncle Long - I really enjoy the first shot. The soft look makes me feel like it was taken in a laid back, jazzy kind of joint. It's not too busy, and the cymbal in the back adds a nice background to it.

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  • CPCP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I think Long's third shot isn't selectively desaturated (correct me if i'm wrong), haven't you guys ever seen plywood that's seen one too many winters? It turns grey. Sometimes stuff is just bleak and grey...you folks from florida and so-cal wouldn't understand...

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    CP wrote: »
    I think Long's third shot isn't selectively desaturated (correct me if i'm wrong), haven't you guys ever seen plywood that's seen one too many winters? It turns grey. Sometimes stuff is just bleak and grey...you folks from florida and so-cal wouldn't understand...

    He said he desaturated it all a bit. You may retract your condescending remark.

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If you'd like me to post the original I will. Yes, the wood is grayer than it really was in the original but it was already pretty gray to begin with. I didn't selectively desaturate. I desaturated everything slightly, but aside from that and a crop there really isn't much change from the original.

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Mustang wrote: »
    Hey all can I get some critique on this, it's a picture I took a few years ago and I've personally always liked it. However where ever I post it, it get's no response, which IMO is tantamount to saying 'This is shit'.
    I would like some constructive opinions as to why it is shit, the only thing I can see that may bother people is the heavy contrast and perhaps the colours are a bit washed out.

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    I agree with the bird/horizon/center critique already posted, but for some reason I really like the colors in this. They're slightly desaturated but still heavy. I'm a fan of higher black clipping which could be it. I dunno. I like the colors a lot.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    anable, you've used this phrase a few times now and I have no idea what you're talking about when you say 'black clipping'

    Clipping?

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  • PootPoot Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I agree, I think the colors are fantastic, but the composition definately irks me. If you go back there I would definately take some more shots, it looks like a sweet location.

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  • SunStreakerSunStreaker Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Few on the subject of trains.

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  • JonisJonis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Jake! wrote: »

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    This one is magical. She is obviously the focal point, and it doesn't need anything else... except to maybe open her face a little, but only a little. <3

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
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    I think this would be improved with a little fill flash, and cloning the edge of the building in the bottom-right corner.

    Also, a saturation bump to bring out the sky (after the fill flash).

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Sheri wrote: »
    anable, you've used this phrase a few times now and I have no idea what you're talking about when you say 'black clipping'

    Clipping?

    I'm pretty sure that my terminology is completely off. I've never taken a photography class or even read a book on it. All of my terminology is from the internets. Please feel free to correct me at any point. That particular term I just stole from Veritas:
    Veritas wrote: »
    It feels like your blacks are clipped a little too far.

    What I mean (and I think he does as well), is that the black levels are pushed up. Basically moving the "Black" slider in Lightroom to the right.

    Lightroom GUI

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    anable wrote: »
    Sheri wrote: »
    anable, you've used this phrase a few times now and I have no idea what you're talking about when you say 'black clipping'

    Clipping?

    I'm pretty sure that my terminology is completely off. I've never taken a photography class or even read a book on it. All of my terminology is from the internets. Please feel free to correct me at any point. That particular term I just stole from Veritas:
    Veritas wrote: »
    It feels like your blacks are clipped a little too far.

    What I mean (and I think he does as well), is that the black levels are pushed up. Basically moving the "Black" slider in Lightroom to the right.

    Lightroom GUI

    Alright. . . seems like a strange term to me. I'm not sure how 'clipped' follows that. But now that I've asked, now I know! Thanks.

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Sheri wrote: »
    anable wrote: »
    Sheri wrote: »
    anable, you've used this phrase a few times now and I have no idea what you're talking about when you say 'black clipping'

    Clipping?

    I'm pretty sure that my terminology is completely off. I've never taken a photography class or even read a book on it. All of my terminology is from the internets. Please feel free to correct me at any point. That particular term I just stole from Veritas:
    Veritas wrote: »
    It feels like your blacks are clipped a little too far.

    What I mean (and I think he does as well), is that the black levels are pushed up. Basically moving the "Black" slider in Lightroom to the right.

    Lightroom GUI

    Alright. . . seems like a strange term to me. I'm not sure how 'clipped' follows that. But now that I've asked, now I know! Thanks.

    Hmm. Technically "clipping" means to cut off, so I completely said the wrong thing. I'm not sure what Veritas meant, but I was saying that the black levels are high, which would be the opposite of clipping.

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  • Dark MoonDark Moon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm pretty sure in this case 'clipping' would be correct, as the blacks have been increased to such a point they've begun to push other colours (as a display on a histogram) off the histogram, when a colour accurate photo would not have them at that point.

    If I'm not posting pictures of pretty smoke within the next 4 hours, I've probably successfully lit myself and/or my house on fire, so please take appropriate action.

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  • SushisourceSushisource Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    So, I'm doing this thing as a sort of going-away present to one of my highschool teachers, seeing as he was a really great guy and I became close friends with him. I thought an arrangement like this of the people who spent time with him would be a nice remembrance:

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    However, I need some advice.

    1. I think the top five photos are stylistically much better than the others, which I shot without the first five as reference. I think I need to fix this, but I want to know if you agree.

    2. I suck at arranging things to look nice. How should arrange the photos? (note, there will be two more photos I don't have yet)

    3. What in the world do I print it on / frame it in?

    Don't worry. I will reshoot myself without a black eye.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'll have popcorn and marshmallows on standby.

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Don't worry. I will reshoot myself without a black eye.

    I think this is the opposite of a good idea. That picture has a lot more character than the rest.

    What I'm saying is, punch all of your friends and then take pictures of them again.

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  • SushisourceSushisource Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Heh. I just don't want him to remember that one week I had a black eye every time he looks at the thing.

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
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  • Dark MoonDark Moon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I agree that after the first five they get dull, with the exception of one (left, second from bottom) with a terribly blown out face. Reshooting them with more interesting poses would be a good idea, and try to stay away from keeping all the faces centred in the frame. I love the first five, and that's a wonderful idea for a going away gift.

    I was fooling with long exposures in a dim kitchen the other evening and came up with one shot that I really like. It's actually the first shot I took that evening, and it came out exactly as I had pictured it in my head. The only PP done was some minor RAW fiddles. I now come to you for validation, or most specifically, thoughts and possible ways to make it better. Alternately you can tell me it sucks and I will cry and throw my camera away.

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    (2 minute exposure with my kit lens set to 18mm)

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  • anableanable North TexasRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    needOptic wrote: »
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    Hmm. I kinda really like this, and I kinda don't. At first, it struck me as both ominous and epic. But I feel like there's too little going happening on the left hand side and it becomes distracting. I would suggest cropping it, but I don't know how to crop it and still retain the feel.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    anable wrote: »
    needOptic wrote: »
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    Hmm. I kinda really like this, and I kinda don't. At first, it struck me as both ominous and epic. But I feel like there's too little going happening on the left hand side and it becomes distracting. I would suggest cropping it, but I don't know how to crop it and still retain the feel.

    I was gonna say something along these lines

    I first saw it and I was like, 'meh,' due to the darkness of the two framing buildings, and then I focused on the clock tower and went, 'Ooh,' and then I scrolled down and then back and I noticed the birds and I'm like, 'Oh damn.' But I still feel. . . I don't know. It's something about the framing that irks me. Perhaps there's too much of it. I just somehow wish the scattering birds could be more of a focal point -- I think they're just too dark right now.

    (I really hope this doesn't wind up being posted three times)

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I like the oven shot, Dark. it's rather evil.

    Anable - not sure what you mean? Too little going on on the left, or too much? :) Maybe my calibration is off, but I can barely make out any details on the left side.

    Personally it's currently my favorite architecture shot because the surrounding metal buildings are looming around the classic white beacon of hope and perseverance.

    I'm with you on crops - i was playing around and as soon as I removed some of the "mass" around the frame the effect lessened.

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  • PhilthePillPhilthePill Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hey guys. Long time admirer, first time posting in here.

    Got a Canon 400D (Rebel Xti) late last year, and I'm heaps keen to learn a bit more about photography in general. Really love this thread, it's impressive work and helpful critiques. Someone was talking about Practical Composition in Photography? Would you recommend it for someone starting out? I know general photography concepts, read through some decent tutes online, but I'm looking to learn a bit more.

    A panorama I took at dawn. Was pretty impressed with CS3, I only took these four shots really quickly and it did pretty well with the stitch. Clone stamped a little, but not much. Any critique is welcomed - especially in regards to any post work.

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    I'll hopefully be posting in here a bit more, I have a bit more time on my hands, now I've just gotta be inspired enough to find cool things to take photos of.

    I've only got the shitty standard lens for my Canon currently, but to tell you the truth I like the range on it (18-55mm), but what I really want is something a bit better quality with an IS, because I don't have steady enough hands. :| Any recommendations?

    Also, noticing most of you guys use flickr? Any particular reason for the preference?

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  • Dark MoonDark Moon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Phil - Welcome! That's a neat pano of a very scenic view. There are some pretty nasty stitches in it, though, particularly the most central stitch and the first one to its right. You'll definitely want to revisit those. You've also got some funky lense flare happening on the sun. Do you by chance shoot with a cheap UV filter? Generally the high quality multicoating on modern lenses reduces that kind of flare to nearly extinction, but popping an Optex UV filter on your lense will wreak all sorts of havoc whenever you have any intense lighting situations. In this case, the flare is really distracting and steals the show from the scene.

    As for lense: What exactly about the quality of the kit lense don't you like, aside from the lack of IS? From all accounts the IQ is pretty decent, though the IS version is a pretty big leap not only for the IS but also in IQ. You might consider upgrading to it, but going from one kit lense to another seems wasteful. What's your budget like, and do you have your heart set on the 18-55mm range? I hear good things about the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5, for the price. If you're looking for L glass, though, that's an entirely different discussion.

    I initially started using flickr because it was popular, but have grown very fond of the interface and community. A lot of people I know also use it, which is a big plus.

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Phil - flicker or picasa. Both serve their purpose... Picasa doesn't limit your features in it's free version. Flicker allows a limited amount of albums.

    Picasa free storage space is 1gb.

    Welcome to the forum and keep shooting.


    The flare on your shot is a little distracting, btw. Something you should try to work around.


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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    If you're looking for an IS lens, get what I just bought- the Canon EF-s 17-55 2.8 IS.

    L quality glass, stabilization, and made for the crop sensors so it's slightly lighter. Then again, it's almost 2x the price of your camera. :))))

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator mod
    edited March 2008
    Optic, that clocktower one is very excellent. I am imagining the clock chiming the half hour causing the birds to fly.

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  • needOpticneedOptic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    bombardier wrote: »
    Optic, that clocktower one is very excellent. I am imagining the clock chiming the half hour causing the birds to fly.

    Thanks mang.

    I'm glad it's noticeable that the birds are taking off.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    needOptic wrote: »
    Phil - flicker or picasa. Both serve their purpose... Picasa doesn't limit your features in it's free version. Flicker allows a limited amount of albums.

    Picasa free storage space is 1gb.

    Welcome to the forum and keep shooting.


    The flare on your shot is a little distracting, btw. Something you should try to work around.


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    Man I am all about fill flash today

    nO, I would like some fill flash on the light.

    The sky looks awesome

    And I have a thing for slants lately, so :^:

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited March 2008
    that's racist, sheri

    they're called asians.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Rank, how long have you been lurking this thread?

    That is so creepy.

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  • PhilthePillPhilthePill Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Thanks for the response people.

    I sortta liked the lens flare:P But I know what you're saying - and practise with the stitching will come in time I think. It was really just something I wanted to try out, see if it'd work. But in terms of large panoramas over landscapes - how do (pros) get lighting to match when you're turning your camera? Is it just a lot of post work? Or just being selective with where your light source is coming from? Anyway.

    In terms of the lens, I really want an IS mainly - for me personally the IQ doesn't bother me much - I've read up on the 18-55mm - but the problems people have with it I think exceed my level of detail. That Sigma is pretty much exactly in my price range and from what I'm reading it looks pretty decent. I'll read up on it some more...

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