Just bought a PS3, having buyers remorse

TheSonicRetard

meatflower wrote: »

Aoi wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

In my opinion, warhawk, heavenly sword and ratchet are mediocre games that are being hyped by PS3 users out of necessity.

Can no one just say "I didn't like them." anymore? O_o

Support your claims.

I only own two PS3 games, Warhawk and R&C and they're both great games. By the sounds of it you didn't give any of them much of a chance though since you only played for a week.

On Warhawk: If I judged any multiplayer game I played by the first weeks impression I don't think I'd be playing multiplayer games at all. There is an undeniable gap between you as a new user and the rest of the player base and while it won't be closed in a week or even two, it will be drastically shortened. If you're basing your impressions on that first week and saying it's a mediocre game because you sucked (and I really can't say for sure since you provided no reasons) then that's not the games fault.

I don't think I've seen anyone "hype" Heavenly Sword. What I have heard more often is that it is a good, but very short, game. That is not hype.

I'm not a PS3 fanboy by any means (I own a 360 and Wii too), but basing your opinion of the system on three games you didn't give the time of day to is pretty poor reasoning.

I actually heard a lot of bad things about Heavenly Sword. I still bit the bullet and picked it up (since it was one of the original games I followed for the PS3) and man was I blown away. I think it's fucking great, and I don't mind the length at all. It reminds me of a hyper updated streets of rage.

fkn creep

Dashui wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

If you're having remorse, take that shit back. I've bought two I think PS3's now and I just took them back within the first week. In my opinion, warhawk, heavenly sword and ratchet are mediocre games that are being hyped by PS3 users out of necessity. Uncharted: I played the demo and it definitely seemed pretty sweet, but i've never played the full version. I might get another PS3 when MGS4 comes out, but i'm going to return it to the store within a week when I finish MGS4.

So you're just going to keep buying and returning the system every time an exclusive comes out that you're interested in? O_o

Yeah, I keep returning it cause I find the money (600 the first time and 400 the second) would be better spent on bills. As far as I can tell, MGS4 is the only exclusive i'm really interested in. Littlebigplanet looks cute, but not enough for me to go through all that.

Sorry if my opinion offended any PS3 users, I was just trying to be honest. I think Warhawk is a shit game and it wasn't due to me losing. It just wasn't that fun compared to COD4 multi, so I didn't waste my time anymore.

Squirminator2k

fkn creep wrote: »

Dashui wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

If you're having remorse, take that shit back. I've bought two I think PS3's now and I just took them back within the first week. In my opinion, warhawk, heavenly sword and ratchet are mediocre games that are being hyped by PS3 users out of necessity. Uncharted: I played the demo and it definitely seemed pretty sweet, but i've never played the full version. I might get another PS3 when MGS4 comes out, but i'm going to return it to the store within a week when I finish MGS4.

So you're just going to keep buying and returning the system every time an exclusive comes out that you're interested in? O_o

Yeah, I keep returning it cause I find the money (600 the first time and 400 the second) would be better spent on bills.

Surely if the money would be better spent on bills, the easier option would be to, y'know, not buy the console in the first place.

slash000

fkn creep is essentially using the retail return system as a weird way of paying a lot of money to rent a console, and then get all of his money back.

Dirty

Stupid douchebags like that (way to live up to your user name, pal) abused the hell out of the old return policy at Gamestop. Also, Gamestop's stricter return policy is a major factor behind the other buyer's remorse thread.

TSR: I still think your complaints about you-know-what are largely hyperbole

Rizzi

LewieP wrote: »

The Master System Dpad was rad

fkn creep

Why do you suddenly care what I do with my money, Mr. Douche bag Accuser?

Edit: I mean, how does this affect anyone? Sales data, maybe? Color me ignorant.

Dirty

Retail stores are not your personal free rental service. The return policy is there for customers who: a) got stuck with something that didn't work; or b) got stuck with something they didn't want. If you don't want to spend $400-500 on a console, don't buy it. Just wait until the system is cheap, then buy the games you missed on the cheap.

Its mainly the principle of the thing that's offensive.


God, did I use the right form of principle? How will I sleep at night?

Dirty

Double post'd!

LewieP

Rizzi wrote: »

LewieP wrote: »

The Master System Dpad was rad

I was waiting on a lime. You made my day.

Dashui

fkn creep wrote: »

Why do you suddenly care what I do with my money, Mr. Douche bag Accuser?

Edit: I mean, how does this affect anyone? Sales data, maybe? Color me ignorant.

Personally, I don't care, but it does seem a little silly. Are you going to start hopping stores eventually because you return so often? And sooner or later there'll be more than enough games you find interesting to actually justify the system, so what will you do then? I'm kind of curious. Will you actually keep it at that point, or continue to just "rent" the system? 2008 is going to be a good year for the system, now that we're coming on its second year.

fkn creep

Depends how well Killzone, Resistance and The Getaway review. If they can improve on Resistance and it becomes a solid FPS, i'll prolly buy one permanently. I'm just skeptical as to the future of PS3 exclusives staying exclusives.

0blique

Well, abusing the return system does effect everyone else a little bit, since if retailers see that their systems are being abused, they're likely to be less generous with their return policies.

shryke

TheSonicRetard wrote: »

meatflower wrote: »

Aoi wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

In my opinion, warhawk, heavenly sword and ratchet are mediocre games that are being hyped by PS3 users out of necessity.

Can no one just say "I didn't like them." anymore? O_o

Support your claims.

I only own two PS3 games, Warhawk and R&C and they're both great games. By the sounds of it you didn't give any of them much of a chance though since you only played for a week.

On Warhawk: If I judged any multiplayer game I played by the first weeks impression I don't think I'd be playing multiplayer games at all. There is an undeniable gap between you as a new user and the rest of the player base and while it won't be closed in a week or even two, it will be drastically shortened. If you're basing your impressions on that first week and saying it's a mediocre game because you sucked (and I really can't say for sure since you provided no reasons) then that's not the games fault.

I don't think I've seen anyone "hype" Heavenly Sword. What I have heard more often is that it is a good, but very short, game. That is not hype.

I'm not a PS3 fanboy by any means (I own a 360 and Wii too), but basing your opinion of the system on three games you didn't give the time of day to is pretty poor reasoning.

I actually heard a lot of bad things about Heavenly Sword. I still bit the bullet and picked it up (since it was one of the original games I followed for the PS3) and man was I blown away. I think it's fucking great, and I don't mind the length at all. It reminds me of a hyper updated streets of rage.

I played it for awhile. Thought it was GORGEOUS. And just .. fucking .. hated it. I thought Yatzee's comment in his review of the demo was spot on. It felt like it took ages for people to go down. Like I was pussy slapping them. Hit, Hit. Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit FUCKING DIE, Hit, Hit, Hit ....

The combat as a whole didn't do much for me.

And funnily, I LOVE Streets of Rage 2.

zilo

It's hard to play a game like RCF and not feel justified in spending a bagful of cash on a PS3. That has to be one of my favorite games of all time, certainly my favorite platformer. I like it even more than Mario Galaxy.

Varega

fkn creep wrote: »

Why do you suddenly care what I do with my money, Mr. Douche bag Accuser?

Edit: I mean, how does this affect anyone? Sales data, maybe? Color me ignorant.

You are also taking away a console that someone will actually buy. I don't care if you take better care of it than anything else you have, people are less likely to buy an opened product. So yes, it does affect me if I'm in the market for a console.

bsjezz

so apparently sony's game division turned a profit this quarter

i'm sure they're still not making money on the ps3 hardware itself, but to know it's becoming less and less of a liability for sony is relieving

fkn creep

Varega wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

Why do you suddenly care what I do with my money, Mr. Douche bag Accuser?

Edit: I mean, how does this affect anyone? Sales data, maybe? Color me ignorant.

You are also taking away a console that someone will actually buy. I don't care if you take better care of it than anything else you have, people are less likely to buy an opened product. So yes, it does affect me if I'm in the market for a console.

You weren't there to see me buy it off the pyramid of PS3's the store had setup. There was no risk of a shortage.

bsjezz

man i'd sure be upset to get my new ps3 home and find a great big fkn creep print all over the glossy black shell. analogue nubs that are still warm. open a/v cable bag. nicked polystyrene!

Mr_Grinch

shryke wrote: »

TheSonicRetard wrote: »

meatflower wrote: »

Aoi wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

In my opinion, warhawk, heavenly sword and ratchet are mediocre games that are being hyped by PS3 users out of necessity.

Can no one just say "I didn't like them." anymore? O_o

Support your claims.

I only own two PS3 games, Warhawk and R&C and they're both great games. By the sounds of it you didn't give any of them much of a chance though since you only played for a week.

On Warhawk: If I judged any multiplayer game I played by the first weeks impression I don't think I'd be playing multiplayer games at all. There is an undeniable gap between you as a new user and the rest of the player base and while it won't be closed in a week or even two, it will be drastically shortened. If you're basing your impressions on that first week and saying it's a mediocre game because you sucked (and I really can't say for sure since you provided no reasons) then that's not the games fault.

I don't think I've seen anyone "hype" Heavenly Sword. What I have heard more often is that it is a good, but very short, game. That is not hype.

I'm not a PS3 fanboy by any means (I own a 360 and Wii too), but basing your opinion of the system on three games you didn't give the time of day to is pretty poor reasoning.

I actually heard a lot of bad things about Heavenly Sword. I still bit the bullet and picked it up (since it was one of the original games I followed for the PS3) and man was I blown away. I think it's fucking great, and I don't mind the length at all. It reminds me of a hyper updated streets of rage.

I played it for awhile. Thought it was GORGEOUS. And just .. fucking .. hated it. I thought Yatzee's comment in his review of the demo was spot on. It felt like it took ages for people to go down. Like I was pussy slapping them. Hit, Hit. Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit FUCKING DIE, Hit, Hit, Hit ....

The combat as a whole didn't do much for me.

And funnily, I LOVE Streets of Rage 2.

I rented and completed Heavenly Sword and both you and Yahtzee must be playing the game horribly horribly badly. At no point did I feel I have to continually smash people with the sword to get them to die. You could take down an ENTIRE army of people swiftly. Just mix up light, quick and heavy attacks and get the right one for the right enemy. You can blitz the demo in no time at all.

And I said EXACTLY the same thing as TSR to a mate when I first played it, with relation to this being like an updated Streets of Rage.

Although the special move system reminded me more of Golden Axe, the more you build it up, the more powerful your special (Circle) move is (Just like collecting potions from Blue Dwarves!).

Varega

fkn creep wrote: »

Varega wrote: »

fkn creep wrote: »

Why do you suddenly care what I do with my money, Mr. Douche bag Accuser?

Edit: I mean, how does this affect anyone? Sales data, maybe? Color me ignorant.

You are also taking away a console that someone will actually buy. I don't care if you take better care of it than anything else you have, people are less likely to buy an opened product. So yes, it does affect me if I'm in the market for a console.

You weren't there to see me buy it off the pyramid of PS3's the store had setup. There was no risk of a shortage.

Great, I wasn't there. Still doesn't change the fact that a person wouldn't buy it, who would have bought a multiplayer game like Warhawk instead and there'd be a bigger pool of people playing it. Stop trying to justify what you are doing. It's pretty ridiculous that you think it's ok for you to do that.

Aoi

Bamelin wrote: »

I have both the 360 and PS3 ... lately I've been playing alot more on my PS3 but I don't know if that's just because it's still kinda new and shiny (got it in November).

I prefer the PS3 interface to the 360's ... once the PS3 gets in game friends lists/invites/check messages up and running, it will finally trump the one thing I think the 360 does a million times better.

While the PS3 store isn't the greatest, I still find things way easier to find than on the 360's marketplace. The PS3 store is basically a web browser and it's something I can relate to ... the 360 on the other hand often forces one to go through menu after sub menu to find what they are looking for.

With all that said, XBLA is amazing. One neat thing about limiting the size of the games is that it forces devs to make their games FUN instead of relying on shinyness. The PS3 downloadable games are pretty awesome too with titles like Everyday Shooter and Super Stardust HD ranking up there as some truly addictive and memorable game experiences.

Really I think I like both systems alot. Personally I do think the PS3 has more room to grow than the 360, and I think this will show near the end of this gen ... but really both systems are awsomesauce.

Hmm, I can't agree with you on the PS3 store at all. At least the marketplace is pretty cleanly laid out, with a lot of room on screen for a dozen or so entries on the screen at once. The Playstation store still has tiers under tiers under tiers, and instead of a well laid out list of a dozen or so items, they have four big playschool buttons, and an interface that just runs slow as hell. The one reason it may seem a bit easier now is because it has a ton less content than the marketplace does. Give it another year, and toss in media downloads (movies/tv shows/music) and you'll have a big cluster f- of epic proportions going on in there.

It wouldn't be too damned hard to fix. Screw the damned buttons. A nice clean list of items, with maybe a little logo or something at the side of the name would be just fine. Give a theme, a bigger logo, anything you want once you click on the page, but my god... And clean up the section tabs/categories too. On the front page for the new stuff, break it down into demos, videos, PS1/PSN games, and for god's sake, demos for every god damned PSN title.

Edit: Addendum. Demos for every PSN title *at launch of the title*.

I will give them credit though, thank you Sony for tossing the PSP store stuff onto the PS3 finally. Love me some Beats.

bsjezz

the eu/au version of the ps sore is actually much nicer than the us one - pretty much the same deal, but a few less layers, text underneath the game icons and not shoehorned into those tiny thumbnails, better side-bar... only subtly different, but better looking and easier to find what you need in general

i'm so glad they opted for real dollars though - we're fucking grown-ups after all. i don't think i would have bothered with some kind of arbtrary points system

Mr_Grinch

Ahh, perhaps this is why I prefer the store. I've only checked out the JPN and EU one.

Aoi

I didn't think the Japanese store was much better though. It was sorted a touch better, but it still felt so thrown together to me. The PS1 section just made me a combination of euphoric and angry at the same time. We're so getting the shaft.

Oh, and screw Bust A Groove. I need the Japanese store to get Move. The changes to the music, endings and characters in the Groove versions of the game just turned me off so much, and those are three of my favorite games ever. Well, the first two anyway, the third one was unfortunately kinda mediocre. Those and Vib Ribbon coming out on the japanese store would make me grab a japanese points card in a damned heartbeat. I'm also sorely tempted by the new shooter maker that just came out on the japanese store as well.

animale

I'm thinking of buying a PS3 since I already have a 360 and Wii at home (currently deployed to Afghanistan) and I only have my DS here. I just can't play long periods of time on my DS and sometimes I have a ton of downtime.

I was ok when my roomie bought a Wii but he recently went and plugged in the Wii into a 220v power outlet without a voltage converter and fried his power supply (whoops!) Since we don't have a gaming system I am seeing the PS3 as a better deal but I can't think of any 2+ local multiplayer games besides Virtua Fighter 5, but I think I'd really like the system to play through Uncharted. Should I buy? Should I wait? Does this dress make me look fat?

Mr_Grinch

Warhawk is two player split screen I believe.

Plenty of the PSN games are two player too.

DarkWarrior

Has the PS Store had a design update or does it change if you're using a HDTV because it used to only have 3 icons on show and a banner above it on my old 27 inch and now it looks like a sleek tiger dragon hybrid.

cdneger

I sold my PS3 after a few weeks... of course I did make a $300 dollar profit off of it so that was a pretty easy call to make but it didn't offer anything I wanted to play. I guess I'm a 360 kinda guy.

Mr_Grinch

DarkWarrior wrote: »

Has the PS Store had a design update or does it change if you're using a HDTV because it used to only have 3 icons on show and a banner above it on my old 27 inch and now it looks like a sleek tiger dragon hybrid.

HDTV, it runs at a lower resolution on an SDTV (So that you can actually read text on it).

Good isn't it?

DarkWarrior

Mr_Grinch wrote: »

DarkWarrior wrote: »

Has the PS Store had a design update or does it change if you're using a HDTV because it used to only have 3 icons on show and a banner above it on my old 27 inch and now it looks like a sleek tiger dragon hybrid.

HDTV, it runs at a lower resolution on an SDTV (So that you can actually read text on it).

Good isn't it?

It looks a lot, lot nicer. Very sleek design, looks less early 90's geocities. Still needs further development and organisation but I'm liking the appearance of it.

Now I just need HOME.

Phanman

I have a PS3. I love it.

There aren't a lot of great games out, but there are some and they're just as good as good games on other systems IMO. There is a strong lineup of upcoming content. PS Home is coming out this Spring.

Also it is an excellent media center for watching downloaded movies, trailers, music etc.

It is easily the best Blu-Ray player on the market and once you've watched Blu-Ray on your 1080p HDTV, you don't go back to crap anymore.

Seriously, you get a ton of stuff for your money with a PS3. Yes they are expensive, but they're not overpriced. You get your money's worth.

corin7

Phanman wrote: »

It is easily the best Blu-Ray player on the market and once you've watched Blu-Ray on your 1080p HDTV, you don't go back to crap anymore.

And by best you actually mean one of the worst right? It is also not the cheapest one anymore I believe there is a $300 player out now. So it would be more accurate just to say that it is a Blu-Ray player.

Mr_Grinch

Erm, why's it one of the worst? Most videophiles will agree the quality on it is superb and stands up to the most expensive of Bluray players, it's fully updatable and also a fantastic upscaling DVD-player (something the 360 falls completely flat at, God knows what they were thinking with the DVD playback software on it).

Sure, it's not longer the cheapest, but it's still fucking good.

::Edit:: There are better links but the closest to hand is:

http://kotaku.com/340668/ps3-is-still-the-blu+ray-player-to-buy

Doing a search around it's edged out mildly when it comes to outputting a certain type of audio signal compared to some of THE most expensive players but that's pretty much it.

corin7

Mr_Grinch wrote: »

Erm, why's it one of the worst? Most videophiles will agree the quality on it is superb and stands up to the most expensive of Bluray players, it's fully updatable and also a fantastic upscaling DVD-player (something the 360 falls completely flat at, God knows what they were thinking with the DVD playback software on it).

Sure, it's not longer the cheapest, but it's still fucking good.

I just assume that the $1500 players have to be offering better features than the PS3. I could be wrong and they could just be taking the consumer for a ride. I haven't done a lot of research though to be honest.

urahonky

So I went into Best Buy last night to exchange my 360 (I have been having CD-ROM issues for a few months, and finally decided it's time to get a falcon) and come to find out that there are NO more 360 Pro's in stock. Apparently there have been a surge of sales lately on the 360s and they are all sold out. (I was put on a "list" and they'd call me when some come in.)

So I asked him if he had any Wii's (just curious) he laughed and said no. Then I asked him about the PS3s and he said he had a mountain of them in the back.

I guess my area is dominated by the 360.

EDIT: My 360 does a fantastic job of upscaling my DVDs. I don't understand why people say the 360 fails at that...

bloodyroarxx

corin7 wrote: »

Mr_Grinch wrote: »

Erm, why's it one of the worst? Most videophiles will agree the quality on it is superb and stands up to the most expensive of Bluray players, it's fully updatable and also a fantastic upscaling DVD-player (something the 360 falls completely flat at, God knows what they were thinking with the DVD playback software on it).

Sure, it's not longer the cheapest, but it's still fucking good.

I just assume that the $1500 players have to be offering better features than the PS3. I could be wrong and they could just be taking the consumer for a ride. I haven't done a lot of research though to be honest.

actually the ps3 is the only Blu-ray player alot of people will recommend cause it can and will be upgraded when the format matures, alot if not all of the current players cannot be updated in such a way.

greeble

How is it one of the worst? From what I've heard on the AVS forums its actually ranks pretty good. Source?

Mr_Grinch

But what you assumed there isn't actually what you said.

You claimed it was "one of the worst" players, when in fact, for the price, it is THE best player you can get. You are correct in assuming it's no longer the cheapest but I believe it's close to the cheapest that supports the new bluray 1.1 standard.

A quick skim of Avforums and it seems to indicate that the PS3, even compared to the most pricey of bluray players still comes out at, or near to, the top. The only complaints seem to be:

1) Lacks IR remote compatibility - but Remote is available for those willing to pay a little extra for it.
2) Lacks DTS-MA decoding - due to be added in firmware upgraded
3) Form-factor - I agree, it's damn bulky and wouldn't slot in with a standard home cinema set-up.
4) Needs decent ventilation. - Although to be honest, it's not that bad for it.

Mr_Grinch

urahonky wrote: »

So I went into Best Buy last night to exchange my 360 (I have been having CD-ROM issues for a few months, and finally decided it's time to get a falcon) and come to find out that there are NO more 360 Pro's in stock. Apparently there have been a surge of sales lately on the 360s and they are all sold out. (I was put on a "list" and they'd call me when some come in.)

So I asked him if he had any Wii's (just curious) he laughed and said no. Then I asked him about the PS3s and he said he had a mountain of them in the back.

I guess my area is dominated by the 360.

EDIT: My 360 does a fantastic job of upscaling my DVDs. I don't understand why people say the 360 fails at that...

The 360 dvd playback is dogshit. I don't mean to be offensive, but if you can't tell that then clearly you don't need an upscaling DVD player.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/xbox-360s-dvd-playback-stunningly-bad-233490.php



"Don't bother using the Xbox 360 as a DVD player (note: that's regular DVD, not HD DVD) since, according to Extreme Tech, it's absolutely terrible. ET went to extreme measures to test the performance of the 360's DVD player, comparing it with a Denon DVD-3910. Out of a possible 130 points, the Xbox 360 walked away with only 20. So what's up?"

I tried using it to output to my projector and it REALLY showed up the flaws. I can't test HDMI but VGA was dreadful, as was component. It seems it's not how it outputs but the player itself.

If you have the HD-DVD drive though, then the player that comes with that is MUCH better apparently, so I'd accept that.