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CitriCitri Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm looking for a website somewhere on the intertubes that does Pre Constructed decks and delivers to the UK. So far I've struggled to find anything that really met my needs. Along with this I was looking for deck boxes and card sleeves as I'm not sure whether I'd be playing or collecting. To summarize I'm looking for -

- MTG Pre-Constructed Decks
- UK Delivery
- Deck Sleeves/Boxes

Thanks in advance!

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    By Pre-Constructed, do you mean those decks you can buy from Wizards itself that come out with every set? If so...

    www.starcitygames.com

    I'm pretty sure they do UK delivery... but you should be able to buy them pretty much anywhere. At the nearest card store, from Wizards itself, etc...

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I have no idea what I'm meaning to be honest. I'm a Yu Gi Oh TCG convert (Shields himself from the abuse soon to be hurled) so yeah. A structure deck or whatever you want to call it is the thing I'm looking for. Also a shop along those lines would be my first port of call but unfortunately we have nothing along those lines in Dundee :(. If theres someone here who lives in Dundee I'd be more than happy for you to correct me.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh... hmm... well, I guess it depends on what you're doing.

    If you want a deck that'll teach you how to play the game, head to starcitygames.com and buy the Tenth Edition Starter Game.

    If you want one of the preconstructed decks, you can get them at starcitygames.com as well... but it's much more fun to make your own deck once you learn the rules using something like the Starter Game (linked to above).

    After that point, you can buy Tournament Packs or Booster Packs to get more cards and build your own deck (I imagine just like Yu-Gi-Oh... I've never played it, but most CCGs sell these kinds of products).

    Or, the last option is that you want a deck (made and designed by someone else, but not the pre-fab ones from Wizards of the Coast) that's already good, and you have to pay several hundred dollars for but even without knowing how to play you'll already win most games. They're called "Net Decks". Don't do that. It won't be fun for you, you likely won't really know how the game is played, and it certainly won't be fun for anyone playing against you who wants to play "just for fun". And unless you're planning on playing in very serious tournaments, the fun-to-money put in ratio will be depressingly low.

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Thank you so much for your help :D

    I'd been scouring the net for a while looking for something useful and that seems to be the way forward. I assume they sell card folders/sleeves?

    EDIT: Jesus I must sound like such a whiny SOB. Just checked that product on Amazon and it was very poorly rated saying whilst it gave field cards, it only gave 2x15 card boosters. Don't get me wrong that sounds playable, just not for two players necessarily. I was more or less looking for something along the lines of Field Cards + Cards that go along with it + Mat + Counters. That would be.

    Again sorry for sounding like such a douche.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh, aye... it's been a while since I've been there, but I remember them selling a wide variety of 'em.

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  • A BearA Bear Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Something like this might work out for 2:

    Rules are available online, and beyond a pair of decks you don't really need anything. Its clean setup was one of the draws for me; but look out- this game is a huge moneysink if you don't watch yourself. But I suppose all CCGs can be if you just go hog wild buying cards.

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  • KatholicKatholic Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Citri wrote: »
    I'm looking for a website somewhere on the intertubes that does Pre Constructed decks and delivers to the UK. So far I've struggled to find anything that really met my needs. Along with this I was looking for deck boxes and card sleeves as I'm not sure whether I'd be playing or collecting. To summarize I'm looking for -

    - MTG Pre-Constructed Decks
    - UK Delivery
    - Deck Sleeves/Boxes

    Thanks in advance!

    http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/VS_future_sight.htm


    Is a good reference for user made decks as well as past pro decks to get an idea of what you want.

    Then i recommend just searching for a single sites and purchasing them individually because it will save you money overall.

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Cheers for the help guys, now time to find a decent Black/Red deck and bring the rain. Or y'know, not at all :)

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm only saying this because it sounds so obvious and I would be surprised if it didn't work... find a local shop that holds tournaments/sells MtG stuff.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I'm with improv. Land is the cheapest kind of card to buy, as are commons, they're about 10 cents a piece. Hit up a local shop, spend 50 bucks, and get a few hundred cards, commons and uncommons, sleeves, rules, markers, the whole shebang. If you don't have a local shop, I reccomend an ebay lot honestly. It's your best bet for a lot of cards at a cheap price.

    Also, If you're new to the game, I'd steer clear of a black/anything deck. Black is hard to play, especially for newer people. The cards always have some kind of backlash to them. I'd start with a white/green, or a white/red.

    white is going to give you circle of protection and healing
    red gives you strength boosts, goblin rock slides
    green gives you walls for defense.

    Also, I don't think I've bought a new set of cards since weatherlight, so I'm a little out of the loop, which is why I am naming older cards.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Hell, most of my land I got for free from a shop I went to.

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Yeah problem being I live in Dundee (Scotland) and there aren't really any card stores or anything along those lines that I know of. The only place I could pick up the cards would be the intertubes. I'm seeing a lot of "Fat packs" What in the name of christ are those? Also Amazon is selling some boosters for like one pence. Must surely be a gimmick right?

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Citri wrote: »
    Yeah problem being I live in Dundee (Scotland) and there aren't really any card stores or anything along those lines that I know of. The only place I could pick up the cards would be the intertubes. I'm seeing a lot of "Fat packs" What in the name of christ are those? Also Amazon is selling some boosters for like one pence. Must surely be a gimmick right?

    A fat pack is just some boosters and a chunk of land.

    Why not just buy a couple of pre-constructed 10th-edition decks if you have no idea what you're looking for and just want to start playing. Amazon sells them:

    http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Tenth-Theme-Molimos/dp/B000THCV4M/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201796027&sr=8-10
    http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Tenth-Kamahls-Temper/dp/B000THIW8G/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201796027&sr=8-12
    http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Tenth-Theme-Arcaniss/dp/B000THCV3I/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201796027&sr=8-13
    http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Tenth-Evincars-Tyranny/dp/B000THIW7W/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201796027&sr=8-16
    http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Gathering-Tenth-Cho-Mannos-Resolve/dp/B000THEX48/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201796133&sr=8-18

    Though in the end if you really get into playing and don't have local card shops to buy at, the best bet for getting large numbers of commons/lands cheaply would be eBay as suggested.

    And on an entirely unrelated note... when the hell did Magic get so expensive? I mean back when I stopped playing they were just starting to make some preconstructed decks, but you could still just go and buy a deck of 60 random cards for like $8-9. Now they're like $10-12 for 40 preselected cards, so there's no chance you'll get that super awesome rare outside of boosters.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    http://www.sol.co.uk/b/benvierd/

    I have a shoebox full of Magic cards that I could fob off on you. I was having a look at valuing them and basically most of them aren't worth more than 10p a pop, so my only option would be a bulk sale. It's a mixed bag of all colours with enough cards to easily build any colour or colour combination decks several times over, so it should be plenty for you and a friend to fire together a couple of decks and have a play around with the game. They are mostly old 5th gen cards with a few Ice Age and Legends, but the system hasn't changed so they are still 'valid' with newer cards. There's a couple of semi decent cards in amongst them as well, but nothing I'm going to want to auction off to the highest bidder. They would certainly serve as a robust base for building a collection off of. If you like, I could count up the cards, apply an arbitrary cost and sell the lot to you. Conveniently, I live in Edinburgh, so getting them to you won't be too hard.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    If you're learning, start with a starter deck of some kind. Most of the other pre-constructed decks available at retail are 'theme' decks, or decks specifically designed to show off a new feature or ability in an expansion, so they're based on already knowing how to play, for the most part.

    Goddamn you. Now I want to play Magic. :( I still have like 1K cards or something, all sorted in plastic sleeves in a binder.

    Oh man, that reminds me. Anyone else play with the Transference cards? Where when something dies, it's power moves to another monster? That was so badass.

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  • Vrtra TheoryVrtra Theory Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    "Fat Packs" are, well... packs with a lot of fat. They're mostly collector's items - they come with some boosters, a precon deck or two, and junk like art books / the "book" for that edition (think "Star Wars novels"), etc.

    If what you want to do is PLAY, I generally wouldn't recommend fat packs - the cards/money ratio is lower than simply buying a few precon decks.

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Szechuanosaurus that is unbelievably helpful! That shop is literally the street over from me (I live on Blackness Street, Google Map it and you'll see how incredibly stupid I've been.) Thanks again!

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Just nipped round to Highlander Games. Exactly what I had in mind. Thank you so much members of the PA forums. Your all made of win for 100% pwn.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    (I should've mentioned this before, but forgot it was an option until just now!) If you don't have many people that play in your area, you could try Magic: The Gathering Online. Head to the Wizards website, and you can check that out and play regardless of if people play around you. Just to note. =)

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  • skyybahamutskyybahamut Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    MTG online is nice if you have pay-pal, but you wanted real cards. That means (I hope) that you have friends that play in your area? If no you will want to get some. Go to your local game/hobbyshop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee should have one being the 3rd largest city in Scotland.

    Also good luck, deck design and balencing is one of the hardest and funnest things.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    MTG online is nice if you have pay-pal, but you wanted real cards. That means (I hope) that you have friends that play in your area? If no you will want to get some. Go to your local game/hobbyshop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee should have one being the 3rd largest city in Scotland.

    Also good luck, deck design and balencing is one of the hardest and funnest things.

    Aye, true. =)

    And indeed, deck design (in my opinion) is more fun than the game itself even. ;)

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    Citri wrote: »
    Szechuanosaurus that is unbelievably helpful! That shop is literally the street over from me (I live on Blackness Street, Google Map it and you'll see how incredibly stupid I've been.) Thanks again!

    No problem! Google did all the hard work :D

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2008
    MTG online is nice if you have pay-pal, but you wanted real cards. That means (I hope) that you have friends that play in your area? If no you will want to get some. Go to your local game/hobbyshop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee should have one being the 3rd largest city in Scotland.

    It should be noted that 3rd largest isn't much of a boast as Scotland only has four cities :D



    Ok, fine. Seven. But seriously, Inverness, Perth and Stirling? Might as well say Dumfries and Kirkcudbright are cities too.

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  • CitriCitri Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hey!!!! :( Although moving from Edinburgh to Dundee :S Odd to say the least.

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    <nerd>
    i'd really really suggest you start with 10th edition before moving on to any expansions. the basic set will fill out all the staples you need, while expansions tend to end up being fairly specialized. plus, core 10th you can rock commons cheap and still win.

    as someone else noted, if you are off in the hinterlands, MTGOnline may be a viable thing to do. drop $20, get a 10th starter and the rest in tickets (the base currency of mtgo). find some trader bots and go to town.

    main advantage to the mtgo client is that the client KNOWS the rules, and enforces them. so you will learn real quick. plus you can get a game pretty much any time, day or night. i mean, the social aspect of playing across from someone is gone, but so is popping into a store and being the only one over 12.
    </nerd>

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Is Apprentice still any good? I haven't used it in years.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    <nerd>
    i'd really really suggest you start with 10th edition before moving on to any expansions. the basic set will fill out all the staples you need, while expansions tend to end up being fairly specialized. plus, core 10th you can rock commons cheap and still win.

    as someone else noted, if you are off in the hinterlands, MTGOnline may be a viable thing to do. drop $20, get a 10th starter and the rest in tickets (the base currency of mtgo). find some trader bots and go to town.

    main advantage to the mtgo client is that the client KNOWS the rules, and enforces them. so you will learn real quick. plus you can get a game pretty much any time, day or night. i mean, the social aspect of playing across from someone is gone, but so is popping into a store and being the only one over 12.
    </nerd>

    Aye, seconded on that MTGO option if you're okay with not having the physical cards, because with those trade bots you can start a (virtual) collection for CHEAP. I mean, CHEAP.

    I pumped in 10 bucks, and got a duplicate of my favorite deck I made (it was ink-treader nephilim based... DAMN was that a fun card... but the deck, in physical cards, probably would've costed me 50-80 bucks for everything. And I had built that deck over time with packs, so it was probably more like 150 bucks I spent IRL to end up with that deck. =) ). Rares that would cost you a buck IRL cost 25 or even 10 cents in MTGO... you can get commons at the rate of 128 or even MORE per buck... it's nice. But indeed, the in-person game is still more entertaining, this is just an "in case you can't find anyone IRL" option... and it is a nice alternative. =)

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  • KatholicKatholic Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    <nerd>
    i'd really really suggest you start with 10th edition before moving on to any expansions. the basic set will fill out all the staples you need, while expansions tend to end up being fairly specialized. plus, core 10th you can rock commons cheap and still win.

    as someone else noted, if you are off in the hinterlands, MTGOnline may be a viable thing to do. drop $20, get a 10th starter and the rest in tickets (the base currency of mtgo). find some trader bots and go to town.

    main advantage to the mtgo client is that the client KNOWS the rules, and enforces them. so you will learn real quick. plus you can get a game pretty much any time, day or night. i mean, the social aspect of playing across from someone is gone, but so is popping into a store and being the only one over 12.
    </nerd>

    Aye, seconded on that MTGO option if you're okay with not having the physical cards, because with those trade bots you can start a (virtual) collection for CHEAP. I mean, CHEAP.

    I pumped in 10 bucks, and got a duplicate of my favorite deck I made (it was ink-treader nephilim based... DAMN was that a fun card... but the deck, in physical cards, probably would've costed me 50-80 bucks for everything. And I had built that deck over time with packs, so it was probably more like 150 bucks I spent IRL to end up with that deck. =) ). Rares that would cost you a buck IRL cost 25 or even 10 cents in MTGO... you can get commons at the rate of 128 or even MORE per buck... it's nice. But indeed, the in-person game is still more entertaining, this is just an "in case you can't find anyone IRL" option... and it is a nice alternative. =)

    Can't you cash in the cards too if you want the cards for real life?

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Katholic wrote: »
    <nerd>
    i'd really really suggest you start with 10th edition before moving on to any expansions. the basic set will fill out all the staples you need, while expansions tend to end up being fairly specialized. plus, core 10th you can rock commons cheap and still win.

    as someone else noted, if you are off in the hinterlands, MTGOnline may be a viable thing to do. drop $20, get a 10th starter and the rest in tickets (the base currency of mtgo). find some trader bots and go to town.

    main advantage to the mtgo client is that the client KNOWS the rules, and enforces them. so you will learn real quick. plus you can get a game pretty much any time, day or night. i mean, the social aspect of playing across from someone is gone, but so is popping into a store and being the only one over 12.
    </nerd>

    Aye, seconded on that MTGO option if you're okay with not having the physical cards, because with those trade bots you can start a (virtual) collection for CHEAP. I mean, CHEAP.

    I pumped in 10 bucks, and got a duplicate of my favorite deck I made (it was ink-treader nephilim based... DAMN was that a fun card... but the deck, in physical cards, probably would've costed me 50-80 bucks for everything. And I had built that deck over time with packs, so it was probably more like 150 bucks I spent IRL to end up with that deck. =) ). Rares that would cost you a buck IRL cost 25 or even 10 cents in MTGO... you can get commons at the rate of 128 or even MORE per buck... it's nice. But indeed, the in-person game is still more entertaining, this is just an "in case you can't find anyone IRL" option... and it is a nice alternative. =)

    Can't you cash in the cards too if you want the cards for real life?


    Aye, but only if you get a *complete* set for one of the editions or expansions. But if you hunted for them, I imagine it'd be far less hard to get a complete set in MTGO than it would be to get one in real life cards: and then you could indeed just trade them in. It'd certainly be cheaper than buying a complete set in real life, given the bargain-basement prices of cards in MTGO compared to buying real life cards.

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