When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
Good lord the past few days have been awkward. We have an incredibly tight group of 4, over the past few weeks we've hired two new people. The first has slid into the team really well, seems to accept the crass, rude behavior that is typical of our little group (we do support for our company's website). The other has rubbed just about everyone the wrong way in 3 days.
I was so incredibly glad for everyone else to leave for the day (I work the later shift). I hate the feeling that the 4 of us are really going to have to watch everything that we do and say from now on - it will remove all the charm of my job. It seems like my boss gets it though and I'm thinking some adjustments in seating and duties would be made to lighten it up - but good lord it's going to be a long few weeks.
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
Time for the drunken fuckwads with no life to start calling in.
A tip to anyone in this thread: if you're at a party, and you're drunk, and the height of entertainment you can think of is calling the number on the back of whatever beverage you've had too much of...maybe you should reconsider your life priorities.
When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
That lady who died drinking water for a Wii in that radio station contest a while ago was drinking distilled. I can't remember the science but something about forcing your body to process that much 'pure' water fucks up some process or another. Trash the kidneys maybe? The water should have a little sodium. edit: though isn't table salt 'not a good source of sodium'?
I think the problem there was more the amount of water imbibed in the short amount of time. Coupled with the apparent fact that she had been practicing days before and had already been drinking an unhealthy amount of water. The whole distilled thing may have been a contributing factor, but probably minor in scope by comparison.
When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
So next Wednesday we are re-tiling the floor of our server room.
Monday is President's day and we are off.
That gives me Tuesday to clean out a TON of junk that has been piling up in that room (used to be the IT office) for the past 4 years. JOY!
I was finding things that my bosses didn't even know existed:
Canon SCSI Document Scanner (DR-5080C) - 90ppm scanning - purchased years ago and never used or installed.
Cisco PoE 48 port switch - new in box
2 Cisco IP Conference phones
~10 Cisco IP Phone wall brackets
2 Cisco IP Phone extension line modules (adds up to 14 lines to a phone)
Dell 2550 Server
IBM Switch (old)
Maxtor NAS - won't power up - probably bad supply or something
Misc batteries and parts and accessories for laptops - most interestingly Sony Vaio's which I never even knew we had (have been a Dell workplace for quite a while)
For future refrence please let it be known that if you charge your cell phone battery "all the time" it is going to go bad. This holds true especially when you say you leave it plugged in over night. You see because the damn thing only takes like 3 hours to fully charge. That electricity is going somewhere chief.
Oh and when I tell you this don't suddenly change your story " Oh I only charge it when it's bone dry."
Learn how to care for your equipment. Oh wait then you couldn't come to Wal-Mart and try to get a brand new phone for free!
Fuck You,
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P.S. - the swearing really helped me visualize you in pool of acid.
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AngryThe glory I had witnessedwas just a sleight of handRegistered Userregular
When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking i know. also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
if she was being a cunt because she took an approximation as an absolute then go ahead and be pissed, but being mad at an old lady for still using cheques?
Its not so much that I get pissed at the person in front of me in line for writing a check, but rather, that they don't even locate their checkbook until after they have the total. I mean, couldn't you at least get it out while they were scanning and bagging your shit and had everything filled in but the amount?
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When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking i know. also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
if she was being a cunt because she took an approximation as an absolute then go ahead and be pissed, but being mad at an old lady for still using cheques?
I don't know what jobs you work, but cheques waste everyones time.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
OR
Get a credit card and learn how to use it.
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AngryThe glory I had witnessedwas just a sleight of handRegistered Userregular
When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking i know. also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
if she was being a cunt because she took an approximation as an absolute then go ahead and be pissed, but being mad at an old lady for still using cheques?
I don't know what jobs you work, but cheques waste everyones time.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
OR
Get a credit card and learn how to use it.
or suck it up and get over the fact that elderly people don't all have platinum mastercards.
I don't know what jobs you work, but cheques waste everyones time.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
OR
Get a credit card and learn how to use it.
This.
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Granted, not getting out a checkbook while groceries/etc. gets bagged is pretty stupid, but goddamn you people bitch about it too much. It's not uncommon for people to use checks because of worries about identity theft, and if it takes an extra fifteen seconds then that's what it takes. Hell, I'm debating getting checks after losing my debit card recently and damn near having a nervous breakdown over it.
When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking i know. also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
if she was being a cunt because she took an approximation as an absolute then go ahead and be pissed, but being mad at an old lady for still using cheques?
I don't know what jobs you work, but cheques waste everyones time.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
OR
Get a credit card and learn how to use it.
or suck it up and get over the fact that elderly people don't all have platinum mastercards.
You don't need a fucking platinum mastercard, the bank gives you A FREE CHECK CARD. My grandma has one, old people have no excuse.
Unless you're timed on each transactions (I know Target does this, not sure about other stores), I don't really see the big deal from a cashier's perspective. It's wasting a minute of your time in which you're going to be checking out other people or some other mundane task. Yeah, it slows the line down and some people try to pass bad checks, but it's not like those problems are exclusive to checks.
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
Unless you're timed on each transactions (I know Target does this, not sure about other stores), I don't really see the big deal from a cashier's perspective. It's wasting a minute of your time in which you're going to be checking out other people or some other mundane task. Yeah, it slows the line down and some people try to pass bad checks, but it's not like those problems are exclusive to checks.
The lack of protections are exclusive to checks. With a credit card, if the approval code comes in, it doesn't matter if the card was stolen or not... the retailer gets paid. With a check, certain specific items have to be on the check, or the money can be lost. It's mostly because retailers use what amount to check insurance companies, like Certegy, who guarantee the check will clear, and if it does not, the service covers the amount lost. However, there's a lot of bullshit that goes on, where checks need to have information not legally required, but must be there as part of the agreement.
For instance, if we don't put a customer's phone number on the check, and it bounces, Certegy will not honor their approval. If the date is not on the check, or it is incorrect, they will not honor it (little known fact - the date on the check doesn't matter in the slightest, legally). If we use a state's abbreviation rather than the state code (for instance, using VT instead of 85), the check isn't honored.
What I'm trying to say is that because of how completely insecure checks are, they have become a pain in the ass to accept, and people really should stop using them altogether. Paying bills is fine. If you mail off the check, you're not slowing down my ability to mail off my check (or pay electronically), and if the check bounces, the utility in question just shuts you off. But in the store, the check bounces, not only did you hold me and everyone else up, but you've just cheated the store. :v:
I would also like to join in on the "checks are a pain in the butt" conversation. Seriously, just use the debit card that the bank gives you with your account, let me see your I.D., and we'll be done six times faster.
It's even worse because the place where I work doesn't have telecheck or anything like that, so we have to do crap old school phone style. Calling 411 to verify your phone number is listed, seeing if the bank will verify that the account is valid, etc. (If it's your first time writing a check here, if you have history it's pretty painless.)
Also, it is somehow part of my job to call to try to get in touch with the people who have written bad checks at our store. Gigantic pain.
If your paying bills at home thats a different story, couldn't care less how you do it. Some people pay them online, others do it by cheque, whichever is easiest for you. But if your at the grocery store and the total comes out to $24.50, you're risking a stabbing if I see you going for a chequebook.
I don't have a problem with people paying using a cheque, if they understand that they take time to clear and there's no way in hell they can get the goods until it's happened. Like Shadowfire said really.
They are just clearly the worst means of payment when time is of the essence.
Any bottled water with "sodium chloride" listed in the ingredients needs to die.
lol
salt
Table salt.
There are a variety of different salts out there, but NaCl is table salt.
You know what this water needs?
More salt.
Today I get an email from the department asking if I told someone that we didn't support Thunderbird. Blech. Fortunately, my superiors are good people, and my explanation email should smooth things through on my end. I love how people who are angry with us tend to leave out critical parts of their request, like "what they asked for".
Yeah. We get that all the time back here. Customer will call in not able to pull web pages. Norton or McAfee is installed and we refuse to support either. Mainly because both companies practically screw up millions of brand new computers by simply having their software on it.
We tell customers that they can either get in contact with Norton/McAfee for proper configuration, or we will walk them through uninstalling it and get them hooked up with Avast and AdAware.
So, usually after telling them this, uninstalling Norton, getting them to pull a webpage and working, they'll often call back, but this time to customer care side, ask to speak with the manager.
"Ya'lls tech said muh computer ain't gonna werk on ya'lls netwerk."
Also, the amount of people completely dependent on Outlook Express amazes me. I hate the program. It's buggy, and often times simply quits working.
Not all IT guys may directly play Mr. Helpdesk, but the purpose of the entire IT division is to suport the IT needs of the rest of the business.
Not true. Wait and see what happens if you ever get an IT job at a University. You could be server maintenance only and some dickwad with a PowerMac 7500 will come sauntering in one day asking you to configure his ancient, unsupported computer, for the classroom.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking
They should.
I think the day I finally lose it and maul a little old lady will involve someone writing a check for 2.17.
also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
Yeah. I leave mine at 500 bucks. If I didn't... well... let's not go there.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
Then you got to fight with them about showing ID, providing two phone numbers, and a driver's license number.
If there's one thing I've learned in public service, asking an old person for their Driver's License number, or hell... even to recite the last four digits of their social, that's like prying teeth from an agitated bear.
I have customers who will not tell me their eMail password over the phone for fear that doing so will open their life to the thousands of hackers the customer is sure that are listening into our conversation.
or suck it up and get over the fact that elderly people don't all have platinum mastercards.
Woah. Over react often?
He's not asking them to get platinum cards. Just a check card. Which is exactly the same thing as a check. Except it doesn't inconvenience everyone.
Hell, I'm debating getting checks after losing my debit card recently and damn near having a nervous breakdown over it.
Debit cards can be called and canceled.
What are you gonna do when someone steals your check book and starts passing fake checks around town?
(little known fact - the date on the check doesn't matter in the slightest, legally).
What does "post daing a check" do, then?
I know there's a joke about it in the Big Lebowski, but I have no idea what that means.
(little known fact - the date on the check doesn't matter in the slightest, legally).
What does "post daing a check" do, then?
I know there's a joke about it in the Big Lebowski, but I have no idea what that means.
Absolutely nothing. The idea was that if I write a check today with the date June 7, 2009, you can't cash it for about a year and a half. However, as far as the bank's concerned, you are authorizing payment immediately because you wrote the check. All they care about is the "Pay to," the written amount (i.e. the box that says $55.92 means nothing, as well), and the signature.
If your paying bills at home thats a different story, couldn't care less how you do it. Some people pay them online, others do it by cheque, whichever is easiest for you. But if your at the grocery store and the total comes out to $24.50, you're risking a stabbing if I see you going for a chequebook.
this came about from a person buying a computer, not these stupid minor retail transactions everyone is complaining about that obviously annoy everyone involved.
i also had no idea cheques were so frequently used still in the u.s. i don't think i've seen a cheque used to actually pay for anything in at least 5 years.
If your paying bills at home thats a different story, couldn't care less how you do it. Some people pay them online, others do it by cheque, whichever is easiest for you. But if your at the grocery store and the total comes out to $24.50, you're risking a stabbing if I see you going for a chequebook.
this came about from a person buying a computer, not these stupid minor retail transactions everyone is complaining about that obviously annoy everyone involved.
i also had no idea cheques were so frequently used still in the u.s. i don't think i've seen a cheque used to actually pay for anything in at least 5 years.
Here in Sweden I have never seen a cheque being used to pay for anything; ever. I was amazed when I found some old, expired chequebook in the bottom of some drawer a couple weeks back. Apparently it was my parents'.
Well, I thought cheques had simply passed onto the next life like Big Brick Cellphones and computers suckier than mine as big as a building.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
For future refrence please let it be known that if you charge your cell phone battery "all the time" it is going to go bad. This holds true especially when you say you leave it plugged in over night. You see because the damn thing only takes like 3 hours to fully charge. That electricity is going somewhere chief.
Oh and when I tell you this don't suddenly change your story " Oh I only charge it when it's bone dry."
Learn how to care for your equipment. Oh wait then you couldn't come to Wal-Mart and try to get a brand new phone for free!
Fuck You,
King Riptor
P.S. - the swearing really helped me visualize you in pool of acid.
I thought most battery chargers and phones throttled themselves down or turned themselves off when they detected a full battery. I know most battery chargers I have turn themselves off when the battery gets full.
For future refrence please let it be known that if you charge your cell phone battery "all the time" it is going to go bad. This holds true especially when you say you leave it plugged in over night. You see because the damn thing only takes like 3 hours to fully charge. That electricity is going somewhere chief.
Oh and when I tell you this don't suddenly change your story " Oh I only charge it when it's bone dry."
Learn how to care for your equipment. Oh wait then you couldn't come to Wal-Mart and try to get a brand new phone for free!
Fuck You,
King Riptor
P.S. - the swearing really helped me visualize you in pool of acid.
I thought most battery chargers and phones throttled themselves down or turned themselves off when they detected a full battery. I know most battery chargers I have turn themselves off when the battery gets full.
Any battery charger that isn't like thirty fucking years old switches to "trickle charge" mode when it detects a full battery. Leaving a lithium ion battery in the charger all the time doesn't harm it. (Leaving a NiMH battery in a charger all the time isn't that good for it but it isn't that bad either). Don't get mad at the customers when you don't know how a modern battery charger works.
For future refrence please let it be known that if you charge your cell phone battery "all the time" it is going to go bad. This holds true especially when you say you leave it plugged in over night. You see because the damn thing only takes like 3 hours to fully charge. That electricity is going somewhere chief.
Oh and when I tell you this don't suddenly change your story " Oh I only charge it when it's bone dry."
Learn how to care for your equipment. Oh wait then you couldn't come to Wal-Mart and try to get a brand new phone for free!
Fuck You,
King Riptor
P.S. - the swearing really helped me visualize you in pool of acid.
I thought most battery chargers and phones throttled themselves down or turned themselves off when they detected a full battery. I know most battery chargers I have turn themselves off when the battery gets full.
Any battery charger that isn't like thirty fucking years old switches to "trickle charge" mode when it detects a full battery. Leaving a lithium ion battery in the charger all the time doesn't harm it. (Leaving a NiMH battery in a charger all the time isn't that good for it but it isn't that bad either). Don't get mad at the customers when you don't know how a modern battery charger works.
Like the original post said, most people dont understand how chargers or rechargeable batteries work. I had a really long rant about this about 2 employee threads ago. everyone has their wives tales because their too lazy to change their self sustained ignorance on the topic, so Ive stopped trying. This also means not asking the dude in walmart how your batteries work. This also means not telling the customer bullshit because your manager told you something. This also includes not listening to that dude on the internet, which is partially why I stopped preaching :P
On the topic of checks (or cheques for all you French bastards) I routinely get checks at the pharmacy from old women paying for their prescriptions.
I have had someone write me a check for under 5 dollars.
What really annoys me though is when someone's total comes to something besides 10 DOLLARS, we are trying to rip them off. Nevermind that their insurance company only pays for certain drugs, drugs they are informed of, drugs they sign off on when they get their insurance cards, we are trying to charge them the wrong amount or have screwed something up. I don't CARE that you don't know how your insurance works, but stop freaking out at me because you can't get your pills for as cheap as possible defying all laws of business and profit.
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The worst is people on medicare/medicaid that have to pay $1 for each prescription.
Then they get something that's not covered for whatever reason (coughViagracough) and FREAK OUT that it's going to be ten or twenty bucks.
Man, you're on a cell phone and just bought a pack of smokes. I'm no libertarian, but...
(little known fact - the date on the check doesn't matter in the slightest, legally).
What does "post daing a check" do, then?
I know there's a joke about it in the Big Lebowski, but I have no idea what that means.
Absolutely nothing. The idea was that if I write a check today with the date June 7, 2009, you can't cash it for about a year and a half. However, as far as the bank's concerned, you are authorizing payment immediately because you wrote the check. All they care about is the "Pay to," the written amount (i.e. the box that says $55.92 means nothing, as well), and the signature.
Whilst it is true that for the banks purposes the date on a cheque is superflous (as cheques essentially form part of a contract to pay someone for goods or services), they do matter very much for accountants and anyone doing accountancy work (and are absolutely vital for people doing trust accounting for various reasons), so they are still important... just not at the retail level.
Granted, not getting out a checkbook while groceries/etc. gets bagged is pretty stupid, but goddamn you people bitch about it too much. It's not uncommon for people to use checks because of worries about identity theft, and if it takes an extra fifteen seconds then that's what it takes. Hell, I'm debating getting checks after losing my debit card recently and damn near having a nervous breakdown over it.
Do you know how incredibly easy it is to get your money back in a fraud case where someone uses your debit/credit card? You call up, and either you're given the money right then and there, or they send a document out that you sign and send back and once they have it back in their office you get the money back. Of course this changes if your PIN is used. Most places wont even touch a fraud claim if the PIN was used, and this is why you need a very secure PIN.
For checks, the process is different and usually a lot longer, and you may have to prove to the bank that you did not make the purchases, especially if the signature is a close match to your own.
Interestingly, most shops around here have started putting up signs to the effect that from next month or so, they'll no longer accept cheques as payment. I'm sure the cashiers are going to have fun with the three people who still use them.
I don't even have a chequebook these days. I've yet to run into anything I can't pay by card or online.
Granted, not getting out a checkbook while groceries/etc. gets bagged is pretty stupid, but goddamn you people bitch about it too much. It's not uncommon for people to use checks because of worries about identity theft, and if it takes an extra fifteen seconds then that's what it takes. Hell, I'm debating getting checks after losing my debit card recently and damn near having a nervous breakdown over it.
Do you know how incredibly easy it is to get your money back in a fraud case where someone uses your debit/credit card? You call up, and either you're given the money right then and there, or they send a document out that you sign and send back and once they have it back in their office you get the money back. Of course this changes if your PIN is used. Most places wont even touch a fraud claim if the PIN was used, and this is why you need a very secure PIN.
For checks, the process is different and usually a lot longer, and you may have to prove to the bank that you did not make the purchases, especially if the signature is a close match to your own.
I got screwed by an online company that I tried to buy something from, pretty much I ordered a product...and they just kept my money and didn't sent me anything. This stretched on for almost half a year until I said Fuck It, called VISA and told them and in a space of five minutes I had my money back.
My boss has been being a real ass because 90% of our fucking team just sit around and talk and completely ignore the team leads. I'm sick of getting bitched at it for it. :-\
I charge my phone every night when I sleep... That's bad?
That does make sense, guess I'll stop doing that then.
keep charging your phone, unless your battery is like 10 years old you are fine. I've charged every phone I've had for the past 8 years nightly and had never had a problem with battery life.
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When you need a new computer system ASAP you do not pay with a fucking cheque. Those things take like 3 days to clear if you are lucky. The problem here is, we don't cash the things until the day after we get them.
Also, you old bag, "If you are lucky it will have hopefully cleared by friday" does not mean "Ready on Friday 100%". No you can't talk to my manager because i am the current acting manager, Yes you can take your anger to my boss, he will call me, then call you back and back me 100%.
God i hate people paying by cheque.
I was so incredibly glad for everyone else to leave for the day (I work the later shift). I hate the feeling that the 4 of us are really going to have to watch everything that we do and say from now on - it will remove all the charm of my job. It seems like my boss gets it though and I'm thinking some adjustments in seating and duties would be made to lighten it up - but good lord it's going to be a long few weeks.
You record these calls for "quality assurance," correct? Because if so, you have no fucking excuse.
Man, if I ever get to the point where I'm moronic enough to start writing a cheque while in a store, please drag me out back and shoot me. What's so fucking hard about using a debit card/visa or MC?
Bingo:
Large quantities of water can kill you.
Note the notable cases at the bottom, it specifically lists this instance. It has nothing to do with distilled or anything, just simply quantity.
Most people forgot we're past year 2000, or, more probably, never realised it.
As for the water talking: Remember why there has been a delay between this thread's creation and the last one's closing? Yeah.
Monday is President's day and we are off.
That gives me Tuesday to clean out a TON of junk that has been piling up in that room (used to be the IT office) for the past 4 years. JOY!
I was finding things that my bosses didn't even know existed:
Canon SCSI Document Scanner (DR-5080C) - 90ppm scanning - purchased years ago and never used or installed.
Cisco PoE 48 port switch - new in box
2 Cisco IP Conference phones
~10 Cisco IP Phone wall brackets
2 Cisco IP Phone extension line modules (adds up to 14 lines to a phone)
Dell 2550 Server
IBM Switch (old)
Maxtor NAS - won't power up - probably bad supply or something
Misc batteries and parts and accessories for laptops - most interestingly Sony Vaio's which I never even knew we had (have been a Dell workplace for quite a while)
For future refrence please let it be known that if you charge your cell phone battery "all the time" it is going to go bad. This holds true especially when you say you leave it plugged in over night. You see because the damn thing only takes like 3 hours to fully charge. That electricity is going somewhere chief.
Oh and when I tell you this don't suddenly change your story " Oh I only charge it when it's bone dry."
Learn how to care for your equipment. Oh wait then you couldn't come to Wal-Mart and try to get a brand new phone for free!
Fuck You,
King Riptor
P.S. - the swearing really helped me visualize you in pool of acid.
some people don't use credit cards, shocking i know. also most people never bother to get the limit of their debit raised from the initial 500 dollar transaction limit and have no idea that they even can.
if she was being a cunt because she took an approximation as an absolute then go ahead and be pissed, but being mad at an old lady for still using cheques?
I don't know what jobs you work, but cheques waste everyones time.
My time, the service attendee, because I have to call my supervisor over, the supervisors time, the customers time, the customers behind them, the cashier two lanes down who also needs the supervisor, and all of his customers.
OR
Get a credit card and learn how to use it.
or suck it up and get over the fact that elderly people don't all have platinum mastercards.
This.
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You don't need a fucking platinum mastercard, the bank gives you A FREE CHECK CARD. My grandma has one, old people have no excuse.
The lack of protections are exclusive to checks. With a credit card, if the approval code comes in, it doesn't matter if the card was stolen or not... the retailer gets paid. With a check, certain specific items have to be on the check, or the money can be lost. It's mostly because retailers use what amount to check insurance companies, like Certegy, who guarantee the check will clear, and if it does not, the service covers the amount lost. However, there's a lot of bullshit that goes on, where checks need to have information not legally required, but must be there as part of the agreement.
For instance, if we don't put a customer's phone number on the check, and it bounces, Certegy will not honor their approval. If the date is not on the check, or it is incorrect, they will not honor it (little known fact - the date on the check doesn't matter in the slightest, legally). If we use a state's abbreviation rather than the state code (for instance, using VT instead of 85), the check isn't honored.
What I'm trying to say is that because of how completely insecure checks are, they have become a pain in the ass to accept, and people really should stop using them altogether. Paying bills is fine. If you mail off the check, you're not slowing down my ability to mail off my check (or pay electronically), and if the check bounces, the utility in question just shuts you off. But in the store, the check bounces, not only did you hold me and everyone else up, but you've just cheated the store. :v:
It's even worse because the place where I work doesn't have telecheck or anything like that, so we have to do crap old school phone style. Calling 411 to verify your phone number is listed, seeing if the bank will verify that the account is valid, etc. (If it's your first time writing a check here, if you have history it's pretty painless.)
Also, it is somehow part of my job to call to try to get in touch with the people who have written bad checks at our store. Gigantic pain.
They are just clearly the worst means of payment when time is of the essence.
You know what this water needs?
More salt.
Yeah. We get that all the time back here. Customer will call in not able to pull web pages. Norton or McAfee is installed and we refuse to support either. Mainly because both companies practically screw up millions of brand new computers by simply having their software on it.
We tell customers that they can either get in contact with Norton/McAfee for proper configuration, or we will walk them through uninstalling it and get them hooked up with Avast and AdAware.
So, usually after telling them this, uninstalling Norton, getting them to pull a webpage and working, they'll often call back, but this time to customer care side, ask to speak with the manager.
"Ya'lls tech said muh computer ain't gonna werk on ya'lls netwerk."
Also, the amount of people completely dependent on Outlook Express amazes me. I hate the program. It's buggy, and often times simply quits working.
Not true. Wait and see what happens if you ever get an IT job at a University. You could be server maintenance only and some dickwad with a PowerMac 7500 will come sauntering in one day asking you to configure his ancient, unsupported computer, for the classroom.
They should.
I think the day I finally lose it and maul a little old lady will involve someone writing a check for 2.17.
Yeah. I leave mine at 500 bucks. If I didn't... well... let's not go there.
Then you got to fight with them about showing ID, providing two phone numbers, and a driver's license number.
If there's one thing I've learned in public service, asking an old person for their Driver's License number, or hell... even to recite the last four digits of their social, that's like prying teeth from an agitated bear.
I have customers who will not tell me their eMail password over the phone for fear that doing so will open their life to the thousands of hackers the customer is sure that are listening into our conversation.
Woah. Over react often?
He's not asking them to get platinum cards. Just a check card. Which is exactly the same thing as a check. Except it doesn't inconvenience everyone.
Debit cards can be called and canceled.
What are you gonna do when someone steals your check book and starts passing fake checks around town?
What does "post daing a check" do, then?
I know there's a joke about it in the Big Lebowski, but I have no idea what that means.
Average America is still largely stuck in the 1950s.
God damn baby boomers.
Absolutely nothing. The idea was that if I write a check today with the date June 7, 2009, you can't cash it for about a year and a half. However, as far as the bank's concerned, you are authorizing payment immediately because you wrote the check. All they care about is the "Pay to," the written amount (i.e. the box that says $55.92 means nothing, as well), and the signature.
Okay. When did the problem start?
"AH DUNNO AH HAVEN'T BEEN HERE ALL WEEK AN AIN'T TURNED MAH TV ON."
Alright. And you said you've already power cycled?
"YES AN IT TOOK FUHEVER TO RELOAD."
Have you tried changing the channel?
*click.*
"Okay thank you."
this came about from a person buying a computer, not these stupid minor retail transactions everyone is complaining about that obviously annoy everyone involved.
i also had no idea cheques were so frequently used still in the u.s. i don't think i've seen a cheque used to actually pay for anything in at least 5 years.
Here in Sweden I have never seen a cheque being used to pay for anything; ever. I was amazed when I found some old, expired chequebook in the bottom of some drawer a couple weeks back. Apparently it was my parents'.
Well, I thought cheques had simply passed onto the next life like Big Brick Cellphones and computers suckier than mine as big as a building.
I thought most battery chargers and phones throttled themselves down or turned themselves off when they detected a full battery. I know most battery chargers I have turn themselves off when the battery gets full.
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You Americans with your poking.
In England, we just have fun with coke.
I guess it's fake coke, though, being hokey and all.
Like the original post said, most people dont understand how chargers or rechargeable batteries work. I had a really long rant about this about 2 employee threads ago. everyone has their wives tales because their too lazy to change their self sustained ignorance on the topic, so Ive stopped trying. This also means not asking the dude in walmart how your batteries work. This also means not telling the customer bullshit because your manager told you something. This also includes not listening to that dude on the internet, which is partially why I stopped preaching :P
I have had someone write me a check for under 5 dollars.
What really annoys me though is when someone's total comes to something besides 10 DOLLARS, we are trying to rip them off. Nevermind that their insurance company only pays for certain drugs, drugs they are informed of, drugs they sign off on when they get their insurance cards, we are trying to charge them the wrong amount or have screwed something up. I don't CARE that you don't know how your insurance works, but stop freaking out at me because you can't get your pills for as cheap as possible defying all laws of business and profit.
Then they get something that's not covered for whatever reason (coughViagracough) and FREAK OUT that it's going to be ten or twenty bucks.
Man, you're on a cell phone and just bought a pack of smokes. I'm no libertarian, but...
Your bootstraps. Pull yourself up by them.
Whilst it is true that for the banks purposes the date on a cheque is superflous (as cheques essentially form part of a contract to pay someone for goods or services), they do matter very much for accountants and anyone doing accountancy work (and are absolutely vital for people doing trust accounting for various reasons), so they are still important... just not at the retail level.
Do you know how incredibly easy it is to get your money back in a fraud case where someone uses your debit/credit card? You call up, and either you're given the money right then and there, or they send a document out that you sign and send back and once they have it back in their office you get the money back. Of course this changes if your PIN is used. Most places wont even touch a fraud claim if the PIN was used, and this is why you need a very secure PIN.
For checks, the process is different and usually a lot longer, and you may have to prove to the bank that you did not make the purchases, especially if the signature is a close match to your own.
I don't even have a chequebook these days. I've yet to run into anything I can't pay by card or online.
I got screwed by an online company that I tried to buy something from, pretty much I ordered a product...and they just kept my money and didn't sent me anything. This stretched on for almost half a year until I said Fuck It, called VISA and told them and in a space of five minutes I had my money back.
That does make sense, guess I'll stop doing that then.
keep charging your phone, unless your battery is like 10 years old you are fine. I've charged every phone I've had for the past 8 years nightly and had never had a problem with battery life.