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360 disc errors, common?
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Hey everyone,
I bought my 360 for Halo 3, and pretty much just played it multiplayer. In all the Halo 3 matches I played, I remember having one disc error (the error where it says the disc might be dirty and the game crashes) when a map was loading. I bought NHL08, didn't really play it a lot but I remember getting a disc error there right at the end of the first game I played. Both discs are spotless.
Now I rented Mass Effect, and the disc looks pristine, but I've already had two disc read errors from the start of the game up to the first bit of the council ship thing.
Is this just something that happens? Do you guys get errors like this too or should I be worried about my 360?
I bought my 360 for Halo 3, and pretty much just played it multiplayer. In all the Halo 3 matches I played, I remember having one disc error (the error where it says the disc might be dirty and the game crashes) when a map was loading. I bought NHL08, didn't really play it a lot but I remember getting a disc error there right at the end of the first game I played. Both discs are spotless.
Now I rented Mass Effect, and the disc looks pristine, but I've already had two disc read errors from the start of the game up to the first bit of the council ship thing.
Is this just something that happens? Do you guys get errors like this too or should I be worried about my 360?
Erik
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Before I RROD'd, they were increasingly common. This doesn't mean it will happen to you, just anecdotal evidence. It's entirely possible you have a bad disc drive, quite a few people on here have complained about them.
If I get the HDDVD drive, can I play regular games through it or is it only for watching HD-DVDs?
I guess I can just spray a bit of compressed air through it, maybe it just has a spec of dust in exactly the wrong spot.
Getting the HDDVD drive would be a bad idea. Bluray has won the war.
No you can't play games on the HD-DVD drive.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
That's really weird. I got my second disc read error today, also on a rented disc. I've got a launch console, and the only other DRE I can recall was when I popped in Gears of War about a year ago, but that was because my disc was all nasty from having gotten lost behind a desk for a month. I don't think disc read errors are particularly common on 360s, so you might want to double check the discs are pristine. Good luck.
Seems to be a fairly common thing, my 360 is horizontal.
Boy I keep felling better and better about buying a 360. :roll:
I always leave the game I'm playing in whatever is playing it, so I'll give this a try. Thanks for the advice, hopefully it'll work for me too.
Its all part of the xbox experience, though seriously you must have known what you were getting yourself into. Its part of the reason I wait till the first price drop to buy a console, they usually have the hardware issues sorted about by then. (Microsoft didn't in this case, I would have bought a 360 if it wasn't for the horrible reliability problems)
But its not all doom and gloom MS support is pretty decent and the turnaround usually isn't too long. (now)
And remember:
"Microsoft stands behind its products and takes responsibility to ensure that every Xbox 360 console owner continues to have a fantastic gaming experience." -- Peter Moore
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
Other than getting louder like a jet engine you'll be fine with the BenQ drive. If it starts making a grinding noise stop the console. The BenQ drive has little rubber pads to keep the eye from grinding into the disc but those pads get worn fast if the drive is malfunctioning.
Before logging into whatever game you want, open the CD-ROM up and close it. That seems to fix all those problems. For me, at least. Hope that helps you sir.
I don't want to spend that much cash on something that will break sooner, rather then later..
Eh. Just get the warranty and you wont have to worry about it. I tend to forget the issues while I'm enjoying those vidja games.
The only place that still sells warranties is Best Buy and yes it's worth it (never thought I'd be saying that). The only issues is that if you buy any games off market place you'll need to be signed into live to play them if you do a console swap. So if your internet connection or live is down you can't play any of them. This also happened to people who upgraded to the Elites.
My brother has left discs inside his new 360 (his second) and they played just fine though. Also, I have never seen disc reading errors on any of the other 360 units I've seen and played on.
The only thing that concerns me about buying a 360 is money. Hardware failures don't concern me cause of both the free 3 year warranty and hardware reliability revisions (better heatsinks, better security for the motherboard, etc.) and I believe taking the disc out after each time playing will reduce the chance of disc read errors although there are 360 units that don't have the errors even when discs are left inside.
(For those who don't know, the two examples of hardware revisions mentioned were made at the same time as the smaller CPU. I mention them since the smaller CPU wasn't the only revision and they seem to be more important.)
First off yes the DRE is a very big issue. Leaving a disc in the drive won't hurt the drive. MS just used cheap drives that break down from wear & tear. Core units had the biggest problem because they couldn't cache to the hard drive. I expect Arcades models to follow suit.
Now onto your other statements. Only the CPU has a new heat sink and 4 screws to replace the X-Clamp and a 65nm core. The GPU is still the same and they removed the cooling pipe from the CPU heat sink because "it isn't needed." So it will be another year at least before they get more of the hardware issues cleared up. Meanwhile the free 3 year warranty only covers RRoD. If you get a DRE or any of the other errors like console freezes (this happened to me) you have to pay MS around $130 (US) + shipping to fix it.
I never mentioned that taking out the disc after playing will completely stop DRE. I mentioned that I believe it will reduce DRE based on my experiences with my brother's first 360. I also clearly mentioned how there are 360s that don't have DRE even though a disc is already inside.
Also, I remember seeing images of the inside of a revised 360 and don't recall seeing any X-clamps. I also remember reading that the X-clamps are gone. (The images and information were on IGN.)
Every fights a food fight when you're a cannibal.
Ok, from what I've been able to find online is that they still use some type of modified x-clamp on the bottom of the board that has little springs with the screws. There are also mods you can buy to replace the x-clamps. Information seems to get sked here. Most sites seem to use the same pics showing the new heat sinks (both are slightly redesigned) with minor little changes on the mobo here and there. For some reason the guy never took pics of the bottom of the board.
So while yes it's better than the Xenen & Zephyr models I'll still wait for the Jasper model with a 65nm GPU before I consider buying one again. As reports are already coming in about the Falcon getting the RRoD.
In regards to the DRE issue MS supposedly is using different models of the BenQ drive. I misread your post before. But I got my first DRE with the disc in the drive. The BenQ drives don't fail like the previous drives did. The BenQ drives are a lot quieter as well, my Samsung sounded like a jet engine. The problem is when they do fail the go all out with making noise and possibly grinding the disc.
Just keep 360's horizontal to help prevent RRoD & DREs.