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Playing a C Major chord with small hands

ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Of course, I wasn't born with long, wiry fingers ideal for playing guitar. Instead, I have short fingers that are a slight bit fat. Maybe it's just inexperience talking here, but I can't play a C Major chord to save my life. This is what I've read on how to play it:
Place your third finger on the third fret of the fifth string. Now, put your second finger on the second fret of the fourth string. Finally, put your first finger on the first fret of the second string.

Sounds easy enough, but my ring finger and my index finger don't like to be that far apart (they must be lovers), and it's very difficult for my index finger not to touch the 4th string. Is there an easier way to do this, or do I just need to become more flexible? I'm doing chords every day and it's becoming easier, but I want to know if I need flexibility or just a better way to play it.

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  • garroad_rangarroad_ran Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Time, patience, and hard work.

    Eventually, you will realize that fat fingers are actually a blessing!

    Can you play an Am chord? Try playing an Am chord and moving the one finger up to make a C that might help you get the fingering straightened out.

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  • Screaming RavenScreaming Raven Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It'll take a little while for your fingers to stretch out that far and actually remain that way, best advice i can give is

    1. Lowering your thumb a bit down the back of the guitar neck can help your fingers spread out a little more.

    2. Doing fingering exercises, these can be really really boring but will help stretch your fingers out and they help your precision at the same time.

    3. Lastly practice, allot.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    That chord is not really a stretch since it's all done across three frets. If you're doing it right, it's:
    ---
    -1-
    ---
    -2-
    -3-
    ---
    

    Now, a tough stretch would be something like a chord from Crash Into Me:
    ---
    -5-
    -4-
    -2-
    -4-
    ---
    

    I always found C major to be tough when I started playing because none of the strings were on the top or the bottom and it was hard for my hand to find a reference. Just practice and you'll get it.

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  • falsedeffalsedef Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Of course, I wasn't born with long, wiry fingers ideal for playing guitar. Instead, I have short fingers that are a slight bit fat. Maybe it's just inexperience talking here, but I can't play a C Major chord to save my life. This is what I've read on how to play it:
    Place your third finger on the third fret of the fifth string. Now, put your second finger on the second fret of the fourth string. Finally, put your first finger on the first fret of the second string.

    Sounds easy enough, but my ring finger and my index finger don't like to be that far apart (they must be lovers), and it's very difficult for my index finger not to touch the 4th string. Is there an easier way to do this, or do I just need to become more flexible? I'm doing chords every day and it's becoming easier, but I want to know if I need flexibility or just a better way to play it.

    If you're having trouble when near the first fret, then try making your hand a bit diagonal to the fret board. When near the body, the hand should tend to become more perpendicular.
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    For a C Maj, there isn't actually much stretching going on. It's more about how you curl your fingers in.
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    Notice the index finger's hook like shape, and how it's diagonal? That should make it much easier. Practice definitely is key. There's little kids with small hands who can go from the 1st to the 5th fret using the index and ring.

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  • falsedeffalsedef Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    Now, a tough stretch would be something like a chord from Crash Into Me:
    ---
    -5-
    -4-
    -2-
    -4-
    ---
    
    Cheat:
    -0-
    -0-
    -4-
    -2-
    -4-
    ---
    

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  • garroad_rangarroad_ran Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Frylock, try playing some Alan Holdsworth stuff. It takes stretching to a new level of ridiculousness

    3
    3
    5
    9
    7
    x

    If that's not a tasty Am11 chord, I don't know what is.

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  • falsedeffalsedef Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Frylock, try playing some Alan Holdsworth stuff. It takes stretching to a new level of ridiculousness

    3
    3
    5
    9
    7
    x

    If that's not a tasty Am11 chord, I don't know what is.

    Looks more like torture than tasty.

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  • garroad_rangarroad_ran Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, it's like Raven said, it takes some time for the fingers to adjust and get used to a certain degree of stretching.

    With chords like those, it's a bigger challenge, but still doable. And certainly worth it if you're a fan of wide or close voicings!

    In my case, I'm a bit of a freakshow. My left hand is about half a centimeter longer than my right because I spend so much time playing those sorts of crazy voicings.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    33597x

    Yep fuck that. There are some songs that just don't need to be played the original way.
    falsedef wrote: »
    Cheat: 00424x

    Oh, don't worry, I do. Remember: if you can play a song that sounds vaguely like "Hey there Delilah" or "Crash into Me," you get just as many chicks as if you can stretch your left hand twelve inches.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I have identified the problem: it's my damn ring finger. It's too short to be on the third fret when my index is on the first, and even if that wasn't an issue my index finger is too weak to press down on the string when I'm stretched out that far. Anybody know something harder than the basic scale, but not incredibly difficult?

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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I have the same problem as you, Zombie. For example, I use my pinky finger when playing power chords on the lower frets because my hands are small. I can't offer a solution, but just know that it's possible to have fun with the guitar without being able to play every chord.

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  • falsedeffalsedef Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I have identified the problem: it's my damn ring finger. It's too short to be on the third fret when my index is on the first, and even if that wasn't an issue my index finger is too weak to press down on the string when I'm stretched out that far. Anybody know something harder than the basic scale, but not incredibly difficult?

    I'll say it again, but there's little kids that can play c maj without batting an eye on a classical guitar. It's about posture and and placement. If you're having problems with strength, then you're probably not using your thumb as leverage.

    If you take a picture of your fingering, we can tell you what might be the trouble area.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    And these little kids, how long have they been playing guitar? Longer than me, guaranteed. I'm not asking if it's possible, I'm asking if there's a better way for someone with smaller, kinda-chubby fingers to play the chord. I'll take that as a no and keep practicing.

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  • phaedrusphaedrus Registered User new member
    edited February 2008
    If you find you can't physically play an open C major chord on guitar and you have a bass player, you only need to play an Am7 chord. Note Am7 = A C E G, and C maj = C E G. So when you play an Am with a C in the bass, the chord percieved becomes a C major chord.

    This can be done with any chord. If you can't play a minor chord, you can play a major chord up a minor third (up three frets, ie, from A to C). Likewise, if you want to play a major chord, you can play a minor 7 chord down a minor third (Say, F maj is the same as Dm7).

    This helps once you grasp major and minor bar chords and 7th bar chords a whole lot. Just make sure you have a bass player playing the correct root. If you don't have a friend jammin bass with you, this might not be of much help. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Guitar is all about practice. Having long or short fingers wont make a major differance to your abillity but the amount of time u spend practicing will. Experiment with differant angles ur wrist can make with the guitar and differant thumb positions. Dont worry about your fingers not being able to push the strings down that will come as your fingers get stronger and move closer to the fret. Keep trying to stretch it and before u know it youll be fretting it without a second thought.

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