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Killer 7
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I just borrowed this game from a friend, went home, and played 10 minutes. I died three times trying to figure out how to stop this strange invisible ceiling fungus from dropping these boulders that become zombies who are also invisible and want to kill my alternate personalities. I figured out that I had to shoot the gold fireflys to kill them, but the red leather tingle won't spill the beans and I'm without a manual.
Color me confused.
Is it worth playing through this game? Does it get any clearer what the hell I'm doing? Why can't I play as the Black personality?
So many questions. Oh, and, did you guys enjoy it, or should I return it to my friend and never speak of it again?
Color me confused.
Is it worth playing through this game? Does it get any clearer what the hell I'm doing? Why can't I play as the Black personality?
So many questions. Oh, and, did you guys enjoy it, or should I return it to my friend and never speak of it again?
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I can only hope that No More Heroes is nothing like it.
Every minute!
But for the general incredibly bizarre experience? Fuck yeah.
I didn't like it at first. But eventually, around the two hour mark, I started to like it. Or I thought I liked it. Maybe it was the intense throbbing in my head from the game's awful repetitious music or the lack of interesting combat or maybe even the lack of a coherent storyline and the fact that the game tries really, really hard to be weird just because it can be, but it turns out I was wrong!
I hate Killer 7! It's such an awful, uninteresting game. I've read about its story. I know all that stupid crap and I have to say that as weird as the game is, its story is just as weird. Why? Because it can be, of course!
Give it back to your friend and try to forget the game ever tainted your home.
The game, in my opinion, isn't very fun to play. But it is very interesting to experience, and the story is quite good if you give it a shot, remember most things that you are told, and don't mind a bit of ambiguity to parse through yourself.
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I stand in one place and shoot my enemies in first-person view? That was fun in MGS2, and its still fun hear.
Sure, the story is crazy, and if you are the type of person who can't STAND a story that is not told in a conventional manner, then yes, stay far away.
A. Your foe exploding with blood spurting Kill Bill style (read: gushing)
B. Coins/Money flying at your body
C. A slot machine pops up, and getting 3 in a row results in sweet-ass powerups.
That game's so over-the-top it's awesome.
On the flip side, Killer7 is a VERY different game. I haven't beat NMH, but I can't imagine it topping the absolute mindfuck Killer7 was. It's that different of a game, and while the rail shooting leaves a bit to be desired, it's one of the best creepy stories since Silent Hill. Except without the survival horror stuff. If you can stand the railshooting, I'd stay the course if you like morbid and dark story lines.
I like it more than Metroid Prime.
I can safely say that Killer7 is the only game I've ever played first and foremost for the story. Because it's possibly the most sophisticated, layered narrative I've ever experienced in a game.
It doesn't help that it's created by Suda51, who is basically an amalgam of Hideo Kojima, Quentin Tarantino and David Lynch.
Especially David Lynch.
I very much did not like Killer7's gameplay, but enjoyed its aesthetic and story and music enough to see it to completion.. but..
it's definitely a love it or hate it, polarizing game..
No More Heroes is the gameplay antithesis of K7. Instead of restricting movement, it gives you free open world access. Instead of boring, standstill shooting sections for combat, you have a fast-paced and visceral many-enemies-at-once combat system with cool wii remote implementation; and the boss fights are absolutely fantastic.
The game takes the best aspects of K7 - great style, great story, great music - and replaces its problems - gameplay - with excellent gameplay.
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What's great about No More Heroes is that Grasshopper managed to create a mainstream game that doesn't sacrifice the outrageous standards set out by Killer7.
However, this thread is about Killer7.
Here's the thing: you can buy Killer7 right now for about $9. Now, for me, that was the best $9 I've ever spent, but for other people, I'd venture it's worth the money just to get a truly unique gaming experience in an industry that doesn't always deliver in terms of a genuine creativity.
It's worth it for the story, if you enjoy the bizarre. And I loved the hell out of the graphical style. IMO, you won't regret playing once you get into the story, especially since you didn't even pay for it.
Also games like Resident Evil that have you hunt down largely arbitrary items to solve puzzles. In Killer7, they just call these "Objects" and "Odd Engravings."
But these are all just academic explanations for a really bizarre control scheme that can and does turn people off.
Basically I agree with this. Killer 7's gameplay is a bit simplistic... and quite a bit repetitive. Imagine a point and click adventure with first person shooting every now and then.
But the rest? The story? The presentation? The graphics? I loved every bit!
One of my favorite moments in gaming involves you going back to the hotel. I just wish someone would do a hand drawn episode of just that one part, it's just so amazing.
1.) Amazing dialog writing
2.) Great voice acting
I like to use this video as an example: Harman and Kun Lan
Also, I'd suggest that the OP add this to his post, since this video is what got me to buy the game:
Killer7 Tribute
So yeah, I thought Odd Engravings and Objects seemed to be a nod or a poke at the Resi games.
but I also found it kind of a funny coincidence that the Smiles were oddly similar to the Regenerators in Resident Evil 4; but that was probably just a mere coincidence. Still, they look largely the same, and you defeat them by shooting out their very small critical weak points.
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
Namely, the Magnum pistol called the Killer7 that is basically Kaede Smith's gun, and the fact that Leon holds the Handcannon like Dan holds his gun.
Dan, by the way, may be on the best characters in all of gaming.
edit: oh yeah, I forgot about the Killer7 pistol in Resi4. Heheh.
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
It's not a spoiler or anything. But it is one of the most What-The-Christ moments in any game I've ever played.
Fuck, I have to replay this game now. So many moments to relive.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
As for killing stuff, make sure to scan to make the bad guys visible. The white dots are critical spots that one-hit-kill the baddies and nets you more blood stuff. In order to kill the big egg dropping thing, you have to charge your gun with blood and shoot the glowing dot.
The games definitely worth a shot. The gameplay can be off-putting at times but I think its worth it.
yeah, that happened to me. I started out hating it completely, but the story drove me on, to the point where I could tolerate the gameplay for the sake of experiencing the style, story, and music.
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
Here's the thing though -- Killer7 already came out and already sold very poorly on 2 consoles, one of which has the largest installed base ever.
And while I think Wii controls would make K7 a lot more fun, I just don't think NMH's success (should it have success in the West, *crosses fingers*) would really encourage a Director's Cut of K7. I mean, NMH's gameplay is practically the antithesis of Killer7; I'd almost be willing to say that the reason NMH is doing so much better is because it's not like Killer7. So why would a publisher want to put something out that not only failed once, but do so because a radically different game is doing well?
That said, I'd quite possibly buy a Killer7 Director's Cut if it were budget priced and included quite a bit new stuff and had fantastic Wii Controls. Not that implementing good Wii Controls would be all that hard considering the nature of the game.
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
The actual playing of the game may be grating to many, no matter how you try to say that it's just a streamlined Resident Evil style thing with less zombies and more shooting. It is by turns rather like Resident Evil 4! It is however much, much less dynamic than Resident Evil 4.
The game has excellent and unique audio.
The game has a unique and stylized look that some people claim is ghetto/cheap/low-tech/meh.
The game has a deep and interesting backstory that is presented in a manner that can be impenetrable unless you make an effort to understand it, and even then, there are bits here and there that are not explained in the game (literally AT ALL), and bits that could well be construed as poorly written. This can be rightfully considered a serious issue when one of the game's major selling points and focuses is the story.
When all of its uniqueness and its weirdness and its strengths come together and enthrall you, then the game is great. Whenever this doesn't happen, you will probably find yourself angry and frustrated that you are spending your time on this thing.
I like Killer7 and recommend that everybody at least tries it.
Such love for this game as it ties all it's elements together into one huge awesome mindfuck experience. It won't be for everyone but God Damn it was for me.
Why haven't you bought No More Heroes yet?
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
Well, it is $50. Killer7 hitting the $20 bin so quickly sure helped some undecideds (me!) pick it up faster.
Hell, I bought a Gamecube largely for that game. It was incredible. But the first level does start out a little slow, especially with the weird boss.
to the OP: use Dan Smith's charged up shots. And you'll find out why you can't just use Garcian all the time later on.
It gets clearly what you are doing. Of course, why you are doing it is another matter.
And a good reason why you can't use Garcian all the time is that Garcian has the weakest weapon in the game and has stats which cannot be upgraded. If you die while playing with Garcian, you get a game over because Garcian is the only one of the personas that can resurrect the other ones. So, really, the question is, why would you want to use Garcian?
By the time you're halfway through the game, you should be playing all Dan, all the time anyway. Especially once you get the Demon Gun.
Myself, I'm kind of partial to Coyote Smith, because he holds his gun upside down, and yells "You're fucked!" every time you crit something. I wish he had a combat upgrade like Dan does (then again, the only ones who get upgraded are Dan and Mask) to make him more valuable.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Fuck you, Amazon.ca.
As for Killer 7, I tried to get into it, but its storytelling style is fucking terrible. It throws a briefcase of text at you and hopes you care enough to keep on reading if you want to learn any backstory.
I did not.
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What makes you think NMH will hit $20 so quickly?
Just because it is by the same development studio doesn't mean that it has anything else in common as far as market trends go.
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And I think one can fairly say the Wii is selling a lot better than the Gamecube was.
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