Cooking it, growing or raising it. Not putting fucking corn in every good damn thing. there is a lot that can be said for the old ways. It cost more and takes more time, of course, but quality-wise the old slow ways are almost always better.
Being able to do things the old, slow, manual way? Good.
Doing things the old, slow, manual way when you've got things to accomplish? Waste of precious time.
Spending an hour doing something you could do in twenty seconds is fine, IF you don't have anything better to do.
If you lived in a world where there were no readily-accessible entertainments or valuable information sources, and hanging out with people required half a day's walk, yeah, sure, do things the hard way.
I could go either way. It depends on a few of things.
How much quality I have to sacrifice if use the new technology/way, how much it'll cost, and how much time it'll save. I still cook my own food, for example, because other methods fail hard on the first two. And probably why electric knives never caught on.
If some new tech has the clear advantage at one or two things while sacrificing little or none on other areas, I'll almost definitely adopt it. Hobbies excluded, of course.
I write drafts of all my writing work on paper with a pen.
I just feel so detached when typing and editing in word.
i have stacks of notes all over the place, which would all go in like one 20k file on my Pc.
I know Im not the only writer who does this. The tangible feeling of putting words onto a page is satisfactory and enchances the feeling of progression when writing.
You mean going to the barber and hoping your barber doesn't kill you with his extremely sharp blades and have your body cooked into pies?
No, I mean doing it on your own and hoping you don't kill yourself.
So you're talking about completely old school with a straight razor? Not, regular razor instead of electric?
Anyway - I take all of my class notes by hand. Even though the other 70+ students in class are typing away at their laptops, I just use pen and paper.
I find that there is a greater mental connection with the lecture and more thought involved if I have to manually write it all out instead. Plus it is easier to pay attention. I'll type them up later, but that's really more to ensure that I re-read them all at least once, and organise them a little better.
I know Im not the only writer who does this. The tangible feeling of putting words onto a page is satisfactory and enchances the feeling of progression when writing.
I'm the same way with writing, though I use a pencil. The tactility of the thing is important for my process. I also doodle habitually, for similar reasons; I go through so many post-it notes at work because of it. :P
I'm the same way with writing, though I use a pencil. The tactility of the thing is important for my process. I also doodle habitually, for similar reasons; I go through so many post-it notes at work because of it. :P
Oh god, doodling. I swear, I'd go through half as many pens if I weren't constantly drawing in the margins. I'm seriously wondering if I can market it - most of it is better than half of the abstract art I've seen, if I may say so myself :P
I suppose you knap your own knives? This is an example of why saying that because something is easier, it is inferior. It's like those people who deride "short cuts," which they define as anything shorter than the scenic rout they take through the middle of nowhere to take twice the time to get to the exact same place.
It's like those "it tastes bad, it works" commercials which seem to imply cat urine must be healthy because it tastes like, well, cat urine.
Do you know what we've been doing in the time we saved not having to work with numbers and memorize p-value tables? We work with higher mathematics where there aren't very many numbers, but tons of letters.
And I still shave with a '58 Gillette safety razor. I also use a mug and soap. A great shave.
Techmology is great but my paper note pad is still faster than my wifes Axim x50v You can also sit on it without breaking it.
There is a place for everything. I love being able to look up just about anything on the web. I also like being able to do the count at the end of the day with a calculator rather than long form. It is, however, handy to be able to use a library with only the card catalog, or total out a calculation with out a calculator.
honestly, I've used them for school several times.
They are heavy and you have to worry about breaking them all the time.
I don't know, I don't really like them all that much. I'd rather have ready access to desktops that are online at this point and maybe a handful of usb drives on my key chain. Maybe a live-cd, if they do too much stupid shit to the computers and they won't boot from usb.
On old stuff and making things easier, could someone tell me what H. G. Well was talking about when he wrote
They were preparing their evening tasks, and he noticed with interest that several were cheating with their Euclid riders by means of a crib, a compilation whose existence he had hitherto never expected
Doing <X> The Ol' Fashioned Way makes you better at <Y>, even when <X> and <Y> are only tangentially related.
Example: Spelling. Why should I need to know if a word is spelled ziteguiste or Zeitgeist? Understanding the spelling of the word lets you know more about the word, its background, its meaning just by thinking about it. Zeitgeist, German compound word, geist = spirit & zeit = time.
I understand that we've all got spell-checkers nowadays, but it still increases a person's knowledge and understanding by knowing how to spell correctly even if it isn't a strictly useful with computers everywhere.
Similarly, knowing auto maintenance will save you money and increase the lifespan of your vehicle even if you have a shop do everything down to changing your oil and wiper blades. Knowing how to cook will make you more healthy even if you eat out for every meal. Knowing how to play an instrument will make you appreciate and understand music better even if you never actually use it. Etc, etc, etc.
All knowledge is interconnected. Learning how to do something in one area that you don't directly care about will increase your capabilities in all other areas.
I've used a laptop for the past year or so in my university studies. My marks have been terrible.
Maybe it's a discipline issue, but even though I use Ubuntu (no dual-booting) and my computer doesn't even have a graphics card, it is far too easy to piss away time with a laptop with an internet connection. I'm considering shunning my laptop this semester for that reason.
However, it isn't really "heavy". Not next to the possibility of hauling around several notebooks for each subject, and possibly one or more textbooks.
Also, it's pretty hard to break a laptop, really, unless you're spectacularly uncoordinated and somehow manage to drop kick it or pour Coke into the vents underneath. They do tests for that sort of thing, and the padding on your sensible laptop bag should additionally soften the occasional door bump.
It's entirely possible to piss away no time using a laptop with an internet connection if you actively choose to not use that internet connection and instead concentrate on the lecture. It's not 'maybe' a discipline issue, it is a discipline issue. I use my laptop for all my non-science class note taking and am doing significantly better than if I were stuck with a pen and paper - being able to type out your notes at 100WPM is far more efficient than having to scribble down notes at, at best, 50. You can also spend more time actually looking at the lecturer, because while typing without looking at the keyboard is standard practice, writing legible notes without looking at the pad is definitely not. The ability to rearrange your notes on the fly without wild diagrams with arrows and cross-hatching and colouring schemes is a huge advantage as well.
I do believe that note taking in any science course is completely impossible on a laptop. They all require diagrams, charts and, god forbid, detailed drawings of cellular signal conduction pathways, all of which are impossible to do on a laptop trackpad in any reasonable amount of time.
I am a huge proponent of real homemade bread, though. I bake a recipe my grandmother's been baking every week for the past 50 years and which was passed down to her from her mother whenever I have the time, and it is the most wonderful bread I've ever eaten. I've never had a loaf of bread-machine bread that could even come close in terms of texture and taste. Unfortunately, the homemade stuff also takes an entire day to make properly, so it is not made all that often.
honestly, I've used them for school several times.
They are heavy and you have to worry about breaking them all the time.
I don't know, I don't really like them all that much. I'd rather have ready access to desktops that are online at this point and maybe a handful of usb drives on my key chain. Maybe a live-cd, if they do too much stupid shit to the computers and they won't boot from usb.
My laptop is not heavy and I never worry about breaking it. But then I'm not a clutzy three year-old.
It's entirely possible to piss away no time using a laptop with an internet connection if you actively choose to not use that internet connection and instead concentrate on the lecture. It's not 'maybe' a discipline issue, it is a discipline issue.
honestly, I've used them for school several times.
They are heavy and you have to worry about breaking them all the time.
I don't know, I don't really like them all that much. I'd rather have ready access to desktops that are online at this point and maybe a handful of usb drives on my key chain. Maybe a live-cd, if they do too much stupid shit to the computers and they won't boot from usb.
My laptop is not heavy and I never worry about breaking it. But then I'm not a clutzy three year-old.
You can't exactly just throw it in your bag with your books(I tried, but it worked out badly. A couple of hundred dollars worth of screen later, I stopped), so at least it is another thing to carry around. They are a little lighter now than they were, but I still wouldn't really like to carry one about all day.
I'm fairly rough on my environment and don't like being encumbered. I don't think I will pay for a laptop again soon. I could wrangle one from my work, but I don't want one.
honestly, I've used them for school several times.
They are heavy and you have to worry about breaking them all the time.
I don't know, I don't really like them all that much. I'd rather have ready access to desktops that are online at this point and maybe a handful of usb drives on my key chain. Maybe a live-cd, if they do too much stupid shit to the computers and they won't boot from usb.
My laptop is not heavy and I never worry about breaking it. But then I'm not a clutzy three year-old.
You can't exactly just throw it in your bag with your books
Yes I can, I do it every day. Granted, when I bought my laptop I also bought a messenger-bag with a padded laptop-subpocket inside, but my old bag was unacceptable, being unable to carry my laptop would be a waste of potential productivity, so I bought a bag that wasn't falling apart and held together with string. Now I only use the old one if I've got to carry a lot of groceries.
I'm fairly rough on my environment and don't like being encumbered. I don't think I will pay for a laptop again soon. I could wrangle one from my work, but I don't want one.
Okay, being rough on your environment would probably be bad for a laptop, but it's not exactly good for anything else either and it seems that that is the problem, rather than laptops being the problem.
I use my laptop for all my non-science class note taking and am doing significantly better than if I were stuck with a pen and paper - being able to type out your notes at 100WPM is far more efficient than having to scribble down notes at, at best, 50. You can also spend more time actually looking at the lecturer, because while typing without looking at the keyboard is standard practice, writing legible notes without looking at the pad is definitely not. The ability to rearrange your notes on the fly without wild diagrams with arrows and cross-hatching and colouring schemes is a huge advantage as well.
Well, glad it works for you. I also hate having to read off a computer screen and know I would likely never take another look at my notes - or at the very least edit them - if they were typed up first.
I almost considered getting one of those one laptop per children laptops for class - something nice and simple that just types words - and giving it a try. But that would have been a waste of money, really.
I don't use a laptop because the only thing I do slower than writing is typing (I think. The practice on this forum might be changing that). This means that I'm considering investing in a tablet. There is the added bonus of the fact that there is no encryption program more hacker proof than proper cursive, which is illegible to those who have invested plentiful time in the keyboard, just as I have less computer skill due to my time investments.
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Cheaper and healthier.
Technology is increasingly making things faster and more convenient, though. It's pretty hard to avoid.
Oh dear, I heard rumor by telepgraph that the courier was recently attacked by a band of roving redskins.
Cooking it, growing or raising it. Not putting fucking corn in every good damn thing. there is a lot that can be said for the old ways. It cost more and takes more time, of course, but quality-wise the old slow ways are almost always better.
I was actually going to use a Passenger Pigeon but I hear they are kinda hard to find lately.
Doing things the old, slow, manual way when you've got things to accomplish? Waste of precious time.
Spending an hour doing something you could do in twenty seconds is fine, IF you don't have anything better to do.
If you lived in a world where there were no readily-accessible entertainments or valuable information sources, and hanging out with people required half a day's walk, yeah, sure, do things the hard way.
But we have shit we can do now.
You mean going to the barber and hoping your barber doesn't kill you with his extremely sharp blades and have your body cooked into pies?
WHO WILL PROGRAM THE NEW CALCULATORS?!
In sin.
No, I mean doing it on your own and hoping you don't kill yourself.
How much quality I have to sacrifice if use the new technology/way, how much it'll cost, and how much time it'll save. I still cook my own food, for example, because other methods fail hard on the first two. And probably why electric knives never caught on.
If some new tech has the clear advantage at one or two things while sacrificing little or none on other areas, I'll almost definitely adopt it. Hobbies excluded, of course.
I just feel so detached when typing and editing in word.
i have stacks of notes all over the place, which would all go in like one 20k file on my Pc.
I know Im not the only writer who does this. The tangible feeling of putting words onto a page is satisfactory and enchances the feeling of progression when writing.
Anyway - I take all of my class notes by hand. Even though the other 70+ students in class are typing away at their laptops, I just use pen and paper.
I find that there is a greater mental connection with the lecture and more thought involved if I have to manually write it all out instead. Plus it is easier to pay attention. I'll type them up later, but that's really more to ensure that I re-read them all at least once, and organise them a little better. Yes, this.
I like to cook, I guess. Like, with an oven, stove, spoons and stuff.
Mostly, fuck the old fashioned way. There are better ways that take less time!
It's like those "it tastes bad, it works" commercials which seem to imply cat urine must be healthy because it tastes like, well, cat urine.
Do you know what we've been doing in the time we saved not having to work with numbers and memorize p-value tables? We work with higher mathematics where there aren't very many numbers, but tons of letters.
And I still shave with a '58 Gillette safety razor. I also use a mug and soap. A great shave.
Techmology is great but my paper note pad is still faster than my wifes Axim x50v You can also sit on it without breaking it.
There is a place for everything. I love being able to look up just about anything on the web. I also like being able to do the count at the end of the day with a calculator rather than long form. It is, however, handy to be able to use a library with only the card catalog, or total out a calculation with out a calculator.
They are heavy and you have to worry about breaking them all the time.
I don't know, I don't really like them all that much. I'd rather have ready access to desktops that are online at this point and maybe a handful of usb drives on my key chain. Maybe a live-cd, if they do too much stupid shit to the computers and they won't boot from usb.
I prefer to write with a computer. I just can't keep up with myself if I try to write everything out by hand. Also, I can't read that shit.
Doggy, you mean.
Example: Spelling. Why should I need to know if a word is spelled ziteguiste or Zeitgeist? Understanding the spelling of the word lets you know more about the word, its background, its meaning just by thinking about it. Zeitgeist, German compound word, geist = spirit & zeit = time.
I understand that we've all got spell-checkers nowadays, but it still increases a person's knowledge and understanding by knowing how to spell correctly even if it isn't a strictly useful with computers everywhere.
Similarly, knowing auto maintenance will save you money and increase the lifespan of your vehicle even if you have a shop do everything down to changing your oil and wiper blades. Knowing how to cook will make you more healthy even if you eat out for every meal. Knowing how to play an instrument will make you appreciate and understand music better even if you never actually use it. Etc, etc, etc.
All knowledge is interconnected. Learning how to do something in one area that you don't directly care about will increase your capabilities in all other areas.
Maybe it's a discipline issue, but even though I use Ubuntu (no dual-booting) and my computer doesn't even have a graphics card, it is far too easy to piss away time with a laptop with an internet connection. I'm considering shunning my laptop this semester for that reason.
However, it isn't really "heavy". Not next to the possibility of hauling around several notebooks for each subject, and possibly one or more textbooks.
Also, it's pretty hard to break a laptop, really, unless you're spectacularly uncoordinated and somehow manage to drop kick it or pour Coke into the vents underneath. They do tests for that sort of thing, and the padding on your sensible laptop bag should additionally soften the occasional door bump.
I do believe that note taking in any science course is completely impossible on a laptop. They all require diagrams, charts and, god forbid, detailed drawings of cellular signal conduction pathways, all of which are impossible to do on a laptop trackpad in any reasonable amount of time.
I am a huge proponent of real homemade bread, though. I bake a recipe my grandmother's been baking every week for the past 50 years and which was passed down to her from her mother whenever I have the time, and it is the most wonderful bread I've ever eaten. I've never had a loaf of bread-machine bread that could even come close in terms of texture and taste. Unfortunately, the homemade stuff also takes an entire day to make properly, so it is not made all that often.
My laptop is not heavy and I never worry about breaking it. But then I'm not a clutzy three year-old.
Correct.
That sounds pretty damned expensive.
You can't exactly just throw it in your bag with your books(I tried, but it worked out badly. A couple of hundred dollars worth of screen later, I stopped), so at least it is another thing to carry around. They are a little lighter now than they were, but I still wouldn't really like to carry one about all day.
I'm fairly rough on my environment and don't like being encumbered. I don't think I will pay for a laptop again soon. I could wrangle one from my work, but I don't want one.
Yes I can, I do it every day. Granted, when I bought my laptop I also bought a messenger-bag with a padded laptop-subpocket inside, but my old bag was unacceptable, being unable to carry my laptop would be a waste of potential productivity, so I bought a bag that wasn't falling apart and held together with string. Now I only use the old one if I've got to carry a lot of groceries.
I'm not carrying it around right now, it's on a table next to my espresso because my laptop can come with me when I wants the coffees.
Okay, being rough on your environment would probably be bad for a laptop, but it's not exactly good for anything else either and it seems that that is the problem, rather than laptops being the problem.
I almost considered getting one of those one laptop per children laptops for class - something nice and simple that just types words - and giving it a try. But that would have been a waste of money, really.