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[Diplomacy] JPP01 - Game Called: Italy Wins!

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    Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Sorry, I'm still in! I thought I had sent in a set of provisional orders, but I obviously didn't.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Yeah, unless you can find it in your sent messages, I don't think I received any — but good to know we've still got a Turkey, carry on everyone!

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    may need someone to replace me after tomorrow

    going to austria for real

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Whoa, ok. Looks like we're looking for a France then after this season's end, any takers out there???

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Gumpy wrote: »
    may need someone to replace me after tomorrow

    going to austria for real

    You mean Italy.

    >.>

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    Stew_StickStew_Stick Dinner UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Yeah I won't be here for 4 days from Saturday onwards. If you want to keep the game going then sub in a reserve I guess.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oy. :x

    Ok, gentlemen, this presents problems. I'm certainly don't mean to blame anyone for being away, it's not something you can or should avoid, but our reserve bench is pretty thin at this point, and mid-game recruiting is a challenge. Do we need to do another recess until Stew_Stick and/or Gumpy return? Would we really come back after it, or have we reached a stalemate in this game? Would it best to call this one and start a new one at some point in the future?

    I'd like to keep it going, especially since Mad Jazz and Kayne Red Robe have only just gotten a chance to get their feet wet, but starting and stopping for people's schedules may make maintaining a good game rhythm prohibitively difficult. If we stop at this point, victory will go to the player with the greatest number of supply centers, unless you all collectively decide to an allied victory (lame! :P).

    Please let me know your thoughts. If anyone out there is reading this and is interesting in taking over either France or Germany, please let us know. At very least, I hope everyone will send in orders for Fall 1907 (due tomorrow at 10), and we'll be able to assess where we stand at year's end.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I will kindly offer my services to play France or Germany until either Gumpy or Stew-Stick returns!

    >.>

    In all seriousness, I have no problem with taking another hiatus, if that's what it takes to keep this game running. Despite my complaining, I'd feel like it was a cheap victory if we just call the game when I only have 12 supply centers. There's a lot more game to be played here.

    Basically, I'm willing to do whatever it takes not to have to call this game early. If other suggestions aren't feasible, then I guess we'll just have to stop, but I don't think we should abandon this game.

    Gumpy, how long are you in Austria?

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    VarcaynVarcayn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    My position makes me pretty clearly biased in favor of a new game at this point.

    That said I will keep playing as long as we can and wouldn't mind another hiatus.

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    A week

    an Austrian week

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ok gang, well if people will come back to it, I'll keep the game running. (I had visions of Gumpy disappearing into the forests of Bavaria never to return.) It looks like we will have another week-long ceasefire after this weekend; Gumpy and Stew_Stick, if you could please include provisional build / retreat orders or otherwise designate a proxy to carry them out for you, we'll make sure things are taken care of in your absence.

    REMINDER: ORDERS FOR FALL 1907 ARE DUE TONIGHT!

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fall 1907 Turn Resolution

    Ok, so it looks like we will be taking a recess after this weekend in light of Gumpy and Stew_Stick's breaks. Assuming everyone still has an interest in continuing, after this weekend's builds and retreats, I think we will be pausing for a week and resuming play again with Spring 1908 orders due April 14th. I will send you PMs and post in this thread again confirming the details as soon as everyone looks to be back from their trips.

    Fall 1907 Moves

    As ordered:
    • England: F nwy -> swe
    • France: A par -> gas
    • France: F bre Supports A par -> gas
    • France: F mao -> wes
    • France: F wal -> eng
    • Germany: F bel Holds
    • Germany: A boh -> tyr
    • Germany: F eng Supports F bre
    • Germany: A mun Supports A boh -> tyr
    • Germany: F nth -> nwy
    • Germany: A sil -> boh
    • Germany: A vie -> tri
    • Italy: A tyr -> vie
    • Italy: F tun -> wes
    • Italy: A tri Supports A tyr -> vie
    • Italy: F spa/sc Supports F por -> mao
    • Italy: A ser Supports A bud
    • Italy: F por -> mao
    • Italy: A pie -> tyr
    • Italy: A nap -> gre
    • Italy: F ion Convoys A nap -> gre
    • Italy: A gas -> par
    • Italy: A bur Supports A gas -> par
    • Italy: A bud Supports A tyr -> vie
    • Russia: F bot -> swe
    • Russia: A mos -> stp
    • Russia: A ukr -> mos
    • Russia: A war Holds

    Movement Map:
    JPP01-F1907M.jpg

    Resolved:
    England:
    England: F nwy → swe
    - Bounced with bot (1 against 1).

    France:
    France: F bre Supports A par → gas
    France: F mao → wes
    - Bounced with tun (1 against 1). Dislodged from por (2 against 1).
    France: A par → gas
    - Bounced with gas (2 against 1).
    France: F wal → eng
    - Bounced with eng (1 against 1).

    Germany:
    Germany: F bel Holds
    Germany: A boh → tyr
    Germany: F eng Supports F bre
    - Support cut by Move from Wales.
    Germany: A mun Supports A boh → tyr
    Germany: F nth → nwy
    - Failed because England: F nwy → swe failed.
    Germany: A sil → boh
    Germany: A vie → tri
    - Bounced with tri (1 against 1). Dislodged from tyr (3 against 1). The Army in Vienna cannot retreat; unit destroyed.

    Italy:
    Italy: A bud Supports A tyr → vie
    Italy: A bur Supports A gas → par
    Italy: A gas → par
    - Bounced with par (2 against 1).
    Italy: F ion Convoys A nap → gre
    Italy: A nap → gre
    - Convoy path taken: nap→ion→gre.
    Italy: A pie → tyr
    - Bounced with boh (1 against 1).
    Italy: F por → mao
    Italy: A ser Supports A bud
    Italy: F spa/sc Supports F por → mao
    Italy: A tri Supports A tyr → vie
    Italy: F tun → wes
    - Bounced with mao (1 against 1).
    Italy: A tyr → vie

    Russia:
    Russia: F bot → swe
    - Bounced with nwy (1 against 1).
    Russia: A mos → stp
    Russia: A ukr → mos
    Russia: A war Holds

    Turkey:
    - No order for unit at Black Sea. Hold order assigned.
    - No order for unit at Bulgaria. Hold order assigned.
    - No order for unit at Constantinople. Hold order assigned.
    - No order for unit at Galicia. Hold order assigned.
    - No order for unit at Rumania. Hold order assigned.
    - No order for unit at Sevastopol. Hold order assigned.


    Turkey: F bla Holds
    Turkey: A bul Holds
    Turkey: A con Holds
    Turkey: A gal Holds
    Turkey: A rum Holds
    Turkey: A sev Holds

    New Current Map: Fall 1907 (Retreat Phase)

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    Retreat orders are due no later than 10 PM EST Saturday (April 5th).

    Details for the relevant retreating parties should be in PMs you will receive shortly. Building will follow immediately after I've received the last retreat order and will end no later than 10 PM Sunday. After builds, we will recess until Gumpy and Stew_Stick return from their vacations — I don't have an exact date from Gumpy yet but assuming his vacation is exactly a week, that'll mean Spring 1908 orders come due Tuesday April 14th. Reminders will be sent, and if everyone still wants to keep this going, we will be back on.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oops, my apologies for not getting back to this yesterday. Gumpy did not send in a retreat order so his fleet in the Mid-Atlantic has fled to the random destination of ... North Africa.

    Stew_Stick is the only one with a build this winter season and he's not going to be around for another week, I believe, so we might as well put that on hold as well. Again, when he and Gumpy are back, we will reconvene for (hopefully uninterrupted) play at a future date.

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    Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Sorry guys, I've dropped the ball on this one! Work decided to completely bone me over the last week and a half or so, and I've been working mostly doubles since then. However, a hiatus until I can get the bosses to stop scheduling me like this is perfect, so I should be ready to go when we resume.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Still waiting on word from Gumpy and Stew_Stick as to when they'll be back, but I'll post announcements on return status and send out alerts when I have more.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Greetings diplomats,

    Indications are all players are back in the country and at their computers. Therefore we are set to resume play with Spring 1908 orders due Tuesday, April 15th at 10 PM EST.

    Everyone is requested to please post once publicly in the thread to confirm for all other players that you are active. Failure to do so by 10 PM EST Monday may result in the game being put on hold until we can positively confirm everyone's participation status.

    Note: The updated current map for Spring 1908 should be up shortly, sorry for the delay on that.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ready and willing, sirrah.

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    VarcaynVarcayn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm ready for what could be my last year.

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    Stew_StickStew_Stick Dinner UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm still here.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Spring 1908 Game Resumption
    • In refreshing yourself with the map, please note France's (randomly assigned) retreat from the Mid-Atlantic to North Africa, and Germany's army build in Berlin (the only build this year, since one of his units was destroyed in an attack but no supply centers changed hands in 1907).
    • We are halfway to confirmed full participation, but I still need to hear from Gumpy, Mad Jazz, and Kayne Red Robe in the thread here.
    • For now, plan for orders for the current season (spring 1908) to be due Tuesday at 10 PM EST. I should emphasize that, like always, you are welcome to send in as many sets of orders as you like prior to the deadline; I will only use the last set.
    Current Map: Spring 1908

    JPP01-W1907.jpg

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The Red Army stands ready.

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    About time, I almost regretted handing you the reins.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Gumpy, Mad Jazz, Europe turns its lonely eyes to you...

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    REMINDER: Spring 1908 orders due tonight, at 10 PM EST!

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    Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm still around, and I'm sending my orders now!

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    A few more hours till orders are due, folks, please don't forget to send them if you haven't already.

    Gumpy hasn't posted in here yet, but he is still active in the game, which should mean everyone at this point.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Spring 1908 Turn Resolution
    I love the smell of chemical weapons in the trenches. Smells like... vict'ry.

    And we're back! Thank you all for returning, especially the long-suffering but ever-conscientious about sending in orders Varcayn of England. Hopefully we will get some good uninterrupted play going from here on out. While I am happy to keep playing, at some point I will probably announce an end date for this, if it looks like things are devolving into stalemate. If that's the case, the ruler with the most supply centers will be the winner. The game still has a lot of potential dynamics left in it I think, so I won't shut things off unless we go several turns without clear progress to the elimination of another player or the capture of supply centers. Just throwing that out there to give you a little more impetus in your campaigning, and to assure you that as drawn-out as it's been, this game won't interfere with your summer holidays (I think).

    Spring 1908 Moves

    As ordered:
    • England: F nwy -> nth
    • France: F wal -> iri
    • France: A par -> gas
    • France: F naf -> wes
    • France: F bre Supports A par
    • Germany: A tyr -> ven
    • Germany: F nth -> nwy
    • Germany: A mun -> tyr
    • Germany: F eng Supports F bre
    • Germany: A boh Supports A mun -> tyr
    • Germany: A ber -> sil
    • Germany: F bel Holds
    • Italy: A tri Supports A vie
    • Italy: F spa/sc -> wes
    • Italy: A ser -> rum
    • Italy: A pie -> ven
    • Italy: F mao Supports A gas -> bre
    • Italy: F ion -> aeg
    • Italy: A gre -> bul
    • Italy: A gas -> bre
    • Italy: A bur -> par
    • Italy: A vie Supports A bud
    • Italy: A bud Supports A vie
    • Russia: A war -> ukr
    • Russia: A stp Supports F nth -> nwy
    • Russia: A mos Holds
    • Russia: F bot -> swe
    • Turkey: A sev Holds
    • Turkey: A rum Supports A gal -> bud
    • Turkey: A gal -> bud
    • Turkey: A bul Holds
    • Turkey: F bla Supports A bul

    Movement Map:
    JPP01-S1908M.jpg

    Resolved:
    England:
    England: F nwy → nth
    - Bounced with nth (1 against 1). Dislodged from nth (2 against 1).

    France:
    France: F bre Supports A par
    - Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
    France: F naf → wes
    - Bounced with spa (1 against 1).
    France: A par → gas
    - Failed because Italy: A gas → bre failed.
    France: F wal → iri

    Germany:
    Germany: F bel Holds
    Germany: A ber → sil
    Germany: A boh Supports A mun → tyr
    Germany: F eng Supports F bre
    Germany: A mun → tyr
    - Failed because Germany: A tyr → ven failed.
    Germany: F nth → nwy
    Germany: A tyr → ven
    - Bounced with pie (1 against 1).

    Italy:
    - No order for unit at Tunis. Hold order assigned.

    Italy: A bud Supports A vie
    - Support cut by Move from Galicia.
    Italy: A bur → par
    - Failed because France: A par → gas failed.
    Italy: A gas → bre
    - Bounced with bre (2 against 2).
    Italy: A gre → bul
    - Bounced with bul (1 against 2).
    Italy: F ion → aeg
    Italy: F mao Supports A gas → bre
    Italy: A pie → ven
    - Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
    Italy: A ser → rum
    - Bounced with rum (1 against 1).
    Italy: F spa/sc → wes
    - Bounced with naf (1 against 1).
    Italy: A tri Supports A vie
    Italy: F tun Holds
    Italy: A vie Supports A bud

    Russia:
    Russia: F bot → swe
    Russia: A mos Holds
    Russia: A stp Supports F nth → nwy
    Russia: A war → ukr

    Turkey:
    - No order for unit at Constantinople. Hold order assigned.

    Turkey: F bla Supports A bul
    Turkey: A bul Holds
    Turkey: A con Holds
    Turkey: A gal → bud
    - Bounced with bud (1 against 2).
    Turkey: A rum Supports A gal → bud
    - Support cut by Move from Serbia.
    Turkey: A sev Holds

    New Current Map: Spring 1908 (Retreat Phase)

    JPP01-S1908R.jpg
    Retreat Orders are Due No Later Than Tomorrow, Wednesday April 16th, at 10PM EST

    Details will be sent to the relevant party in a separate PM. Thanks all for continuing with the game and sending in your orders well on time!

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The English fleet has set sail for the Norwegian Sea.


    Orders for the Current Season (Fall 1908) Are Due This Friday (April 18th) by 10 PM EST

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You guys should award varcayn some territory. Or him and VH should team up.

    Also, I will gladly moderate any diplomatic communications or work as one of those mouthpiece things.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The Anglo-Italian alliance will crush all opposition!

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    Stew_StickStew_Stick Dinner UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I don;t think much of the balance of power in this Anglo-Italian alliance. Varacyn, after fighting your soldiers in battle, I think that what would suit them best would be a nice mutinous course of action against your Italian oppressors.

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Stew, you just took his last spot. Seems like you are the oppressor!

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    VarcaynVarcayn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You guys should award varcayn some territory.

    I support this plan of action.

    Shall we see how many more times I can lose Norway in one game?

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    Stew_StickStew_Stick Dinner UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Stew, you just took his last spot. Seems like you are the oppressor!

    Hey I was just over there trying to party but his guys started firing at me. Damned if I'm gonna have some party-hatin' jerk in my Europe.

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    VarcaynVarcayn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Stew_Stick wrote: »
    Stew, you just took his last spot. Seems like you are the oppressor!

    Hey I was just over there trying to party but his guys started firing at me. Damned if I'm gonna have some party-hatin' jerk in my Europe.

    You forgot to bring tea and crumpets. What did you think was going to happen?

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Reminder to all: your orders are due tomorrow by 10 PM, and late orders will not be accepted!

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fall 1908 Turn Resolution
    Russia armies overrun the German toehold in the far north! Badly homesick British lads return to Edinburgh to replenish their supplies of tea and scotch! Italians spotted sneering over coffee in Paris! Combined Franco-German fleet drives Italy from the Atlantic! Stalemate in Austria! Turkish army decimated in the Balkans!!

    Thanks to everyone for sending their orders in well on time. Here are the results in detail...

    Fall 1908 Moves

    As ordered:
    • England: F nwg -> edi
    • France: F iri -> mao
    • France: F naf Supports F iri -> mao
    • France: A par -> gas
    • France: F bre Supports A par -> gas
    • Germany: F nwy Holds
    • Germany: F eng Supports F iri -> mao
    • Germany: F bel Holds
    • Germany: A tyr -> vie
    • Germany: A boh Supports A tyr -> vie
    • Germany: A mun -> tyr
    • Germany: A sil -> mun
    • Italy: F mao -> bre
    • Italy: A gas -> par
    • Italy: A bur Supports A gas -> par
    • Italy: F spa/sc -> wes
    • Italy: F tun -> naf
    • Italy: A pie -> ven
    • Italy: A tri Supports A vie
    • Italy: A vie Supports A bud
    • Italy: A bud Supports A vie
    • Italy: A gre -> bul
    • Italy: F aeg Supports A gre -> bul
    • Italy: A ser -> rum
    • Russia: A stp -> nwy
    • Russia: F swe Supports A stp -> nwy
    • Russia: A mos -> sev
    • Russia: A ukr Supports A mos -> sev
    • Turkey: A sev Holds
    • Turkey: A con -> smy
    • Turkey: F bla -> con
    • Turkey: A gal -> bud
    • Turkey: A rum -> ser
    • Turkey: A bul Supports A rum -> ser

    Movement Map:
    JPP01-F1908M.jpg

    Resolved:
    England:
    England: F nwg → edi

    France:
    France: F bre Supports A par → gas
    - Support cut by Move from Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
    France: F iri → mao
    France: F naf Supports F iri → mao
    - Support cut by Move from Tunis.
    France: A par → gas
    - Bounced with gas (1 against 1). Dislodged from gas (2 against 1).

    Germany:
    Germany: F bel Holds
    Germany: A boh Supports A tyr → vie
    Germany: F eng Supports F iri → mao
    Germany: A mun → tyr
    - Failed because Germany: A tyr → vie failed.
    Germany: F nwy Holds
    - Dislodged from stp (2 against 1).
    Germany: A sil → mun
    - Failed because Germany: A mun → tyr failed.
    Germany: A tyr → vie
    - Bounced with vie (2 against 2).

    Italy:
    Italy: F aeg Supports A gre → bul
    Italy: A bud Supports A vie
    - Support cut by Move from Galicia.
    Italy: A bur Supports A gas → par
    Italy: A gas → par
    Italy: A gre → bul
    Italy: F mao → bre
    - Bounced with bre (1 against 1). Dislodged from iri (2 against 1).
    Italy: A pie → ven
    Italy: A ser → rum
    - Bounced with rum (1 against 1).
    Italy: F spa/sc → wes
    Italy: A tri Supports A vie
    Italy: F tun → naf
    - Bounced with naf (1 against 1).
    Italy: A vie Supports A bud
    - Support cut by Move from Tyrolia.

    Russia:
    Russia: A mos → sev
    Russia: A stp → nwy
    Russia: F swe Supports A stp → nwy
    Russia: A ukr Supports A mos → sev

    Turkey:
    Turkey: F bla → con
    Turkey: A bul Supports A rum → ser
    - Support cut by Move from Greece. Dislodged from gre (2 against 1). The Army in Bulgaria cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
    Turkey: A con → smy
    Turkey: A gal → bud
    - Bounced with bud (1 against 1).
    Turkey: A rum → ser
    - Bounced with ser (1 against 1).
    Turkey: A sev Holds
    - Dislodged from mos (2 against 1).

    New Current Map: Fall 1908 (Retreat Phase)

    JPP01-F1908R.jpg
    Retreat Orders are Due No Later Than Tomorrow, Saturday April 19th, at 10PM EST

    Details will be sent to the relevant party in a separate PM. If I do not receive retreat orders by deadline, I will assign a random adjacent province as the retreating army's destination. As soon as I receive all retreats we will proceed to the Winter 1908 build phase, which will end no later than 10 PM Sunday.

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    JustPlainPavekJustPlainPavek Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Ah crap, I missed the highlighting in Norway. I'll fix this tomorrow when I have more time, but to be clear, that's a German fleet that has to retreat, and a Russian army replacing it.

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    Stew_StickStew_Stick Dinner UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Man, why'd Lawinator have to go and leave. We were pals.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Now you know how it feels. *sob*

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