militant poetry (a music thread)

oneeyedjack909

I love me some Rage Against The Machine, however, it's difficult to find a band that sings the same kind of stuff. Same relative style and message. Mostly the same message. So can you guys recommend some music that is politically charged and still melts faces? I've heard Linkin Park and Rise against and I'm not impressed. Linkin Park just doesn't have those viceral lyrics and Rise Against just isn't brutal enough. I want to hear a band that doesn't just stop at making a social commentary about politics and the American people. I want to hear shit that starts riots, that has a political message that is so viceral and brutally honest that it makes me want to strangle some politicians. I wanna hear some, to borrow the prase, 'millitant poetry'.

thanks

also: It doesn't need to be in the same genre as RATM just the same kind of message. I've heard all the
60's hippie protest crap so please don't recommend me that. I want something....harder and grittier

oldsak

I feel like I'm always recommending them to people, but how about The Refused?

The (International) Noise conspiracy tends to get a bit political/social in it's message as well, though it's not quite as aggressive.

Umm... Bad Religion? Very Political punk though probably not "brutal" enough for you.

Other political punk bands worth checking out are Anti-Flag and Propaghandi.

starmanbrand

Political Rap, man. Public Enemy, and more importantly, Immortal Technique.

PE is classic

But IT is really fuckin' awesome. Trust me.

matisyahu

Refused is so damn good. You've probably heard "New Noise" on a bunch of TV shows and crap by now, but "The Shape of Punk to Come" is definitely one of my favorite albums.

Chop Logic

Refused - The Shape of Punk To Come (This is what you are looking for.)
Against Me! - Crime!
Against Me! - Re-Inventing Axl Rose
Man Afraid - Check out the song "3-91"
The Broadways - Really good lyrics, but in terms of brutalness, they're a punk band. A fantastic punk band, but still a punk band. Check out the album "Broken Star".

Aldo

Choking Victim - No Gods, No Managers
Very trashy ska/punk.

And something completely different and far more preaching rather than just rah rah rah:
Faithless - No Roots

And yeah, go check out Public Enemy and Immortal Technique.

oneeyedjack909

Immortal Technique-fuck yes

Public Enemy-also a fuck yes

Bad Religion-sweet

Against Me-oh god yes. The acoustic qualities to some of their songs is great.

The Refused were pretty good as well

thanks

TheCapn

Anti-Flag?

bsjezz

listen to rancid's 2000 self-titled album

LewieP

Gang of Four, particularly their album Entertainment. They were making music in the early eighties which sounds like a lot of modern bands. Post-punk with a great political wit about it. Bass that will blow your socks off. Their Guitarist Andy Gill went on to produce for the Chilli Peppers amongst others.

Skunk Anansie are great, 'Stoosh' is my favourite album of theirs. Fantastic opening track "Yes it's fucking political" they are one of the coolest 90's British bands, which is saying something.

Radiohead's Hail to the Thief album might fit the bill too. They aren't everyone's liking, but that album is one of the most coherently and intelligent "Fuck You"'s I've heard in a while.

System of a Down are pretty damn good. Very consistent too, any of their albums would be a good pick, Toxicity has a special place in my heart for being one of the first loud angry metal albums I ever really connected with.

Anyone/Everyone should Listen to Saul Williams. You mentioned liking RATM, and he did a song with Zack de la Rocha on his (amazing) self titled album. Very modern, intelligent, hip-hop.

Nine Inch Nails' most recent album "Year Zero" is great, and political. Be warned though, if you get that, you are probably going to want to spend a ridiculous amount of money investing in the entire NIN back catalogue...

Enjoy sucking it to the man!

The Cheese

oldsak wrote: »

Propaghandi.

They are the best.

RNEMESiS42

oneeyedjack909 wrote: »

Public Enemy-also a fuck yes

Public Enemy and Anthrax

The original public enemy number one, woot. They're basically hip hop, though, They're not as heavy as Rage musically, but their message is. Check out It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back. I'm a big NIN fan, too, and I was surprised to read that Trent was listening to a lot of Public Enemy before Year Zero, heh.

FIGHT THE POWER

Fallout

oneeyedjack909 wrote: »

I love me some Rage Against The Machine, however, it's difficult to find a band that sings the same kind of stuff. Same relative style and message. Mostly the same message. So can you guys recommend some music that is politically charged and still melts faces? I've heard Linkin Park and Rise against and I'm not impressed. Linkin Park just doesn't have those viceral lyrics and Rise Against just isn't brutal enough. I want to hear a band that doesn't just stop at making a social commentary about politics and the American people. I want to hear shit that starts riots, that has a political message that is so viceral and brutally honest that it makes me want to strangle some politicians. I wanna hear some, to borrow the prase, 'millitant poetry'.

thanks

also: It doesn't need to be in the same genre as RATM just the same kind of message. I've heard all the
60's hippie protest crap so please don't recommend me that. I want something....harder and grittier

Pretty sure you're looking for KMFDM

edit: Fucking love the intro on this one

edit 2: You are also looking for Ministry

W2

Black Flag.

Grizzled

You really really need to listen to Propagandhi, especially more recent albums but really everything.

Anti-Flag is good too on the message front, their songs are a little more jingle-jangle though.

ROCK:
- Suicide Machines, especially the latest album "War Profiteering is Killing Us All"
- The NOFX albums "War on Errorism" and "Wolves in Wolves' Clothing"
- Some System of a Down stuff or Serj's new solo album "Elect the Dead"
- more recent Satanic Surfers
- MDC (Millions of Dead Cops)
- Leftover Crack (yes, really. The album is "Fuck World Trade", you might like it)
- The Clash. Actually listen to the lyrics!
- New Model Army
- Raised Fist
- The very very first Offspring album - I know they're lame now, but they had some stuff to say back in 1989 that was pretty tough and ends up being relevant today.

HIPHOP: Public Enemy, KRS-One, The Coup, Zion I. Immortal Technique for sure. Sage Francis' tracks "Makeshift Patriot" and "Slow Down Gandhi".

Zach de la Rocha from RATM also did some hiphop stuff after they broke up, if you search diligently on your p2p network of choice you might find stuff he did with Zion I, KRS-One, DJ Shadow, Chuck D., etc.

Jimmy King

A lot of Megadeth stuff is also very political. Almost all of their CD's fromt Youthanasia and earlier have at least 1 or 2 political songs on them, frequently anti-war related stuff. Their newer stuff like United Abominations, The System Has Failed, and The World Needs a Hero also include political stuff as the album titles suggest. There are a couple CDs in between Youthanasia and TWNAH that I've never really listened to, but I'd have to assume based on Megaeth's track record that there's some political stuff on them, too, but those cd's weren't as heavy

Chake99

LewieP wrote: »

Anyone/Everyone should Listen to Saul Williams.

Hellz yes. Check out List of Demands on youtube for a taste. The lyrics are

I want my money back. I'm down here drowning in your fat. You got me on my knees praying for everything you lack. I ain't afraid of you. I'm just a victim of your fears. You cower in your tower praying that I'll disappear, I got another plan, one that requires me to stand. On the stage or in the street, don't need no microphone or beat. And when you hear this song, if you ain't dead then sing along. Bang and strum to these here drums til you get where you belong.

I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! You wanna be somebody? See somebody? Try and free somebody? I gotta list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!

I wrote a song for you today while I was sitting in my room. I jumped up on my bed today and played it on a broom. I didn't think that it would be a song that you would hear, but when I played it in my head, I made you reappear. I wrote a video for it and I acted out each part. Then I took your picture out and taped it to my heart. I've taped you to my heart dear girl, I've taped you to my heart and if you pull away from me you'll tear my life apart..

I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! You wanna be somebody? See somebody? Try and free somebody? I gotta list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!

Ecstacy, suffering, Echinacea, bufferin. We aim to remember what we choose to forget. God's just a baby and her diaper is wet.
Call the police! I'm strapped to the teeth and liable to disregard your every belief. Call on the law! I'm fixin' to draw a line between what is and seems and call up a brawl. Call'em up now! 'cause it's about to go pow! I'm standing on the threshold of the ups and the downs. Call up a truce! 'cause I'm about to bust loose. Protect ya neck,'cause, son, I'm breaking out of my noose.

I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! You wanna be somebody? See somebody? Try and free somebody? I gotta list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!

ViolentChemistry

Grizzled wrote: »

- The Clash. Actually listen to the lyrics!

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Khavall

I'd just like to suggest:

Pandora.com Go there. Put in Rage against the Machine

Look at what comes up.

LewieP

Khavall wrote: »

I'd just like to suggest:

Pandora.com Go there. Put in Rage against the Machine

Look at what comes up.

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meeker

Second The Clash. Get London Calling.

Also I can't believe nobody has mentioned Gil Scott-Heron! Everyone must hear The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

Aldo

meeker wrote: »

Second The Clash. Get London Calling.

Also I can't believe nobody has mentioned Gil Scott-Heron! Everyone must hear The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

I may have missed something, but London Calling isn't really political.

ViolentChemistry

Aldo wrote: »

meeker wrote: »

Second The Clash. Get London Calling.

Also I can't believe nobody has mentioned Gil Scott-Heron! Everyone must hear The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

I may have missed something, but London Calling isn't really political.

It's certainly not as blatant as Combat Rock.

meeker

Aldo wrote: »

meeker wrote: »

Second The Clash. Get London Calling.

Also I can't believe nobody has mentioned Gil Scott-Heron! Everyone must hear The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

I may have missed something, but London Calling isn't really political.

From Wikipedia

Themes

Continuing Clash practice, the record is politically motivated lashing out against injustice and rebelling against the establishment. This double album explores many themes like the end of the world in the title track "London Calling", an apocalyptic song, detailing the many ways the world could end, including the coming of the ice age, starvation, and war.

AtomBomb

Minor Threat. When I think of political bands I think of Ian Mackaye. Fugazi is great too, but maybe not in the style that you want. Whoever said Ministry is right on, Ian and Al Jourgensen of Ministry did a project called Pailhead which is an awesome 30 minutes or so. Al also did a project with the Dead Kennedys frontman Jello Biafra (his name is even for political purposes) called Lard, which you might like. They have a couple of albums iirc.

meeker

AtomBomb wrote: »

Dead Kennedys frontman Jello Biafra

That reminds me of DOA w/Jello. Great album.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Scream_of_the_Missing_Neighbors