Its my only explanation. I've had a launch 360 console since, well launch. Never before have I put an OXM disc into
my console before, until disc 80 came out with its "exclusive" Rock Band songs. Being a fan/completionist whore, I had to get it.
I load up the disc, get the content, and while its in, I notice an update for backwards compatible xbox games. Since
I'm on live whenever I'm on, I thought I'de have all released patches, but for some reason, I installed the OXM patch.
After this, I decide to run the Turok demo, and once any action starts, it freezes. Ok, fuck the OXM disc, I put in Rock Band
and it freezes twice in the menus and after a song the console clicks and I lose video. Reboot the console and
Red Ring of Death.
Thank you for listening to me whine.
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Zercof, I love you man. But quit whining. And get a fan on your 360.
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I'M A TWITTER SHITTER
Its 2am and I can't sleep. Must type...
Sorry for all the fuss. I'll be shut up by tomorrow.
Whatever though, I'm done...
It happens.
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:P I couldn't resist. I wanted to go all mega-flame on you but I decided against that.
Well I'm glad for that, I would've most likely taken it fully serious and cried myself to sleep
How could viscount say such a thing!
Either way, I'm off to sleep. Laterz
I'm pretty sure any time someone with actual hardware knowledge has tested those fans (like the Nyko InterCooler) and talked about them, they've come to the conclusion that they actually make matters worse.
Anyway, it happens. Mine didn't RRoD until the night the Bioshock demo came out. I stayed up to download it, loaded it up, got to the very first point where you could control movement, and...bam, RRoD.
Just hope that Microsoft gets yours taken care of faster than the month I was without mine. Luckily, it showed up just three days before Halo came out.
No. Not those intercooler's. I wouldn't be surprised if that causes RROD's in some boxes. Laptop cooler underneath is a suggested item. I have a fan blowing air right across the back, pulling heat away from the components. Move the air and the components have a much higher chance of survival.
Dead.
It came back from repair after less then a week though without a hitch so I was happy.
My European Launch 360 has red ringed 3 times and still works. Havent needed a replacement yet!
My cooling solution for the first year was having my study window open and putting my 360 on the windowsill when it was like 10 degrees outside.
I've heard a failure analysis engineer speak on this specific subject. Non moving air at 32f? components will still burn up. Moving air at 90f, the same component survived. Thermal dispersion is the biggest part. Moving the air is almost as important as having a place for it to go. Adding a laptop cooler just increases volume of air moving around the 360.(for horzontal setups). The main cause for RROD is the BGA overheating and warping. Reducing that heat will *possibly* reduce the chance of that happening to my 360. It is much more noisy when its running but thats a small price to pay.
How much do you want for this magical rock?
Open window + freezing cold air outside + wind = decent air cooling.
That's not true. Certain games stress different parts of the CPU and, particularly, GPU differently and may reveal a defect heretofore hidden.
it's hardly a ring
also mine failed while streaming video from my PC, before that it failed while playing Forza
the cop goes to the crime scene and says, look, the coke killed this guy
in short, your 360 killed itself. that disc was just the last thing it played before it died.
My 360 was perfectly fine until I tossed in an OXM disc. It made a terrible noise while trying to load it, and the disc could not be read. Soon afterwards, the RROD appeared.
well you're not supposed to just toss it in
you're supposed to place it in the tray carefully, there's your problem
The 360 RRODs and has other problems due to excessive heat inside the casing.
The problem with the fans that latch onto the back of the 360s like the Intercooler is two-fold.
First, the fans do not provide a significant enough boost in flow rate on top of the default system fans to make a worthwhile difference in air flowrate through the case.
Secondly, by powering the fans via the USB ports, you're increasing the heat generated by the internal components of the 360.
So you're essentially adding more heat to the internal components of the 360, but not taking a significant portion of additional heat out of the case by additional external fans.
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I also put it in upside down. Maybe that might have been it.
The intercoolers are just a noisy gimmick. Just keep your machine in a well-ventilated entertainment center that's maintained for dust and it should be fine by itself.
Unless it's a PS3 but let's not go there.
Which orientation is best suited for the 360? Vertical or horizontal?
On that note, I myself have not a RROD yet but... I am really looking forward to Fallout 3...
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There was something about that time, though, because mine and a lot of others went all at once. I think the Spring update came out shortly before. Crackdown and Halo 3 beta were the games that were played when mine failed.
Then again, it could have been the warming up from the winter months.
In any case, its a frustrating issue.
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I prefer to have mine on its side; the most stable position, but ventilation-wise, it would make more sense to be vertical. But thats my unprofessional guess.
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This is the one time I will disagree with you slash. Simply moving air around *may* be enough to keep RROD from happening. I recommend an externally powered, high volume fan. I don't know the temperature point where the BGA starts deforming but If I can keep it lower, I will.
You may not actually be disagreeing with me. I was referring really only to the Intercooler and like-products that work the same way.
If you use something externally powered - avoiding the problem of adding to internal heat by the USB components and power
and you also use a high-volume fan - which may provide enough air flow to actually contribute to case cooling (as opposed to the negligible effects of the Intercooler/like products)
then you may end up avoiding the "make things worse" scenario caused by the Intercooler/like products.
It is definitely true that increased air flow, particularly cooler air, around and through a console/pc will help prevent thermal problems.
The rub comes about in the implementation and effectiveness of that "air flow." The Intercooler has proven to compound, rather than lessen, the RROD problem.
But something completely external and significant in its airflow will certainly help.
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You could just get a virgin high volume fan :P