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So I got a speeding ticket
HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
Long story short: I was speeding (47 in a 25 zone) as I was coming up a small hill, and the cop was about 500 ft. away from me stopped in the same lane (small, 2 lane road: one lane on either side). My options are to contest, accept, or negotiate the ticket. It was issued to me by a Pierce County Sheriff's deputy (I was in Parkland, WA). Any recommendations as to what I should do next, short of hiring an overpriced lawyer to belch hot air in court on my behalf?
Long story short: I was speeding (47 in a 25 zone) as I was coming up a small hill, and the cop was about 500 ft. away from me stopped in the same lane (small, 2 lane road: one lane on either side). My options are to contest, accept, or negotiate the ticket. It was issued to me by a Pierce County Sheriff's deputy (I was in Parkland, WA). Any recommendations as to what I should do next, short of hiring an overpriced lawyer to belch hot air in court on my behalf?
Negotiate. How many offenses to have if any on your record?
I got a ticket similar, though mine was taking the carpool lane when I didn't have a carpool.
Went in, negotiated to half the price of the ticket.
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HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
Long story short: I was speeding (47 in a 25 zone) as I was coming up a small hill, and the cop was about 500 ft. away from me stopped in the same lane (small, 2 lane road: one lane on either side). My options are to contest, accept, or negotiate the ticket. It was issued to me by a Pierce County Sheriff's deputy (I was in Parkland, WA). Any recommendations as to what I should do next, short of hiring an overpriced lawyer to belch hot air in court on my behalf?
Negotiate. How many offenses to have if any on your record?
None. No tickets, no accidents, no warnings, even. I'd like to keep it that way, if possible. I wouldn't have any problem negotiating it down to a non-moving violation and just eating the full price (which would be cheaper than cutting the price and taking the moving violation, which will make my insurance rates hop like a perp on PCP). Ideally, I'd like to get the whole thing struck all together.
The price tag on this thing is $247, by the way.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
Long story short: I was speeding (47 in a 25 zone) as I was coming up a small hill, and the cop was about 500 ft. away from me stopped in the same lane (small, 2 lane road: one lane on either side). My options are to contest, accept, or negotiate the ticket. It was issued to me by a Pierce County Sheriff's deputy (I was in Parkland, WA). Any recommendations as to what I should do next, short of hiring an overpriced lawyer to belch hot air in court on my behalf?
Negotiate. How many offenses to have if any on your record?
None. No tickets, no accidents, no warnings, even. I'd like to keep it that way, if possible. I wouldn't have any problem negotiating it down to a non-moving violation and just eating the full price (which would be cheaper than cutting the price and taking the moving violation, which will make my insurance rates hop like a perp on PCP). Ideally, I'd like to get the whole thing struck all together.
The price tag on this thing is $247, by the way.
I'd negotiate and take traffic school if they offer it. It usually takes care of the insurance problem, but it's not guaranteed.
That's the problem with tickets, short of knowing a dirty cop who just deletes it out of the system, there's really no promise, no matter what you do, that the insurance company won't find out.
That's the problem with tickets, short of knowing a dirty cop who just deletes it out of the system, there's really no promise, no matter what you do, that the insurance company won't find out.
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Anyway, you may be able to get deferred prosecution, where you pay the fine, and as long as you don't get another ticket within a year, it goes away.
That's the problem with tickets, short of knowing a dirty cop who just deletes it out of the system, there's really no promise, no matter what you do, that the insurance company won't find out.
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Anyway, you may be able to get deferred prosecution, where you pay the fine, and as long as you don't get another ticket within a year, it goes away.
I was basing that on the fact that I got a minor moving violation in South Carolina, and they told me it was a misdimeanor that wouldn't go on my traffic record and therefore affect my insurance, provided I paid the $60 fine, which I did.
My insurance still found out about it, even though it wasn't on my driving record, or was removed rather quickly as opposed to a matter of years.
That's the problem with tickets, short of knowing a dirty cop who just deletes it out of the system, there's really no promise, no matter what you do, that the insurance company won't find out.
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Anyway, you may be able to get deferred prosecution, where you pay the fine, and as long as you don't get another ticket within a year, it goes away.
I was basing that on the fact that I got a minor moving violation in South Carolina, and they told me it was a misdimeanor that wouldn't go on my traffic record and therefore affect my insurance, provided I paid the $60 fine, which I did.
My insurance still found out about it, even though it wasn't on my driving record, or was removed rather quickly as opposed to a matter of years.
Oh, that. Actually, that hasn't been my experience at all.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
Oh, that. Actually, that hasn't been my experience at all.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
Could be. I was 17 at the time, so this was almost seven years ago. I just remember my insurance going up. Granted all I had to go on there was "their word", but I do know that it wasn't on my driver's record, because I saw my complete record a few years later when I was a corrections officer, and one ticket was on there that I had gotten before that one, but that one was not there.
My only point was that if you want to do something to lower the fine, or not lose points, in HOPES that it won't affect your insurance, then that's cool, but there's really no guarantee.
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HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
negotiate. Good luck not getting any demerits. You were doing almost double the speed limit.
Sorry for not having much more sympathy, but you were doing double the speed limit. You should get demerits for it.
You still should be able to get some of the price taken off even though.
I don't care about the price; I care about the insurance rates. The price is a fucking drop in the bucket compared to what my rates will become if this goes on my record (which all "Traffic" violations do).
And yes, I realize I was doing twice the limit, but I was coming off a hill. I don't know of many people who don't accelerate while going up hills. I didn't plan on running 50 all the way down a residential street.
Oh, that. Actually, that hasn't been my experience at all.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
Could be. I was 17 at the time, so this was almost seven years ago. I just remember my insurance going up. Granted all I had to go on there was "their word", but I do know that it wasn't on my driver's record, because I saw my complete record a few years later when I was a corrections officer, and one ticket was on there that I had gotten before that one, but that one was not there.
My only point was that if you want to do something to lower the fine, or not lose points, in HOPES that it won't affect your insurance, then that's cool, but there's really no guarantee.
Were you on your parents' insurance, or paying for your own?
About 10 years ago I had a $195 ticket for going 79 in a 55 in New Jersey (a state trooper stopped me). I thought it was 65 but I was speeding anyway and the ticket price would have been the same.
Anyway, my insurance company never even knew about it. I stupidly ASKED them about it and they had no record of it.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
Oh, that. Actually, that hasn't been my experience at all.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
Could be. I was 17 at the time, so this was almost seven years ago. I just remember my insurance going up. Granted all I had to go on there was "their word", but I do know that it wasn't on my driver's record, because I saw my complete record a few years later when I was a corrections officer, and one ticket was on there that I had gotten before that one, but that one was not there.
My only point was that if you want to do something to lower the fine, or not lose points, in HOPES that it won't affect your insurance, then that's cool, but there's really no guarantee.
Were you on your parents' insurance, or paying for your own?
I was on theirs, but they never found out about the ticket. It was for going 8 miles over the speed limit because it drops from 70 to 60 on the interstate in South Carolina.
Oh, that. Actually, that hasn't been my experience at all.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
Could be. I was 17 at the time, so this was almost seven years ago. I just remember my insurance going up. Granted all I had to go on there was "their word", but I do know that it wasn't on my driver's record, because I saw my complete record a few years later when I was a corrections officer, and one ticket was on there that I had gotten before that one, but that one was not there.
My only point was that if you want to do something to lower the fine, or not lose points, in HOPES that it won't affect your insurance, then that's cool, but there's really no guarantee.
Were you on your parents' insurance, or paying for your own?
I was on theirs, but they never found out about the ticket. It was for going 8 miles over the speed limit because it drops from 70 to 60 on the interstate in South Carolina.
...8 miles over ::grumble::
I wouldn't be entirely sure it was your ticket that bumped the insurance, then, especially if it wasn't supposed to show up on your record. I'd suspect it's more likely that one of your parents got a ticket, and didn't want to mention it to the other one. :P
About 6 years ago I got a ticket for going 59 in a 55, I contested and lost. If I could not get away with that, there's no way you could going nearly double.
Sorry dude, but you say it's your first ticket. I still have that one and the one I got while rushing to see my Dad after his heart attack. My rates aren't that bad in comparison. With out those ticket's I'm spending about $10 per month per ticket extra in insurance.
Yes it hurts, yes it sucks, but you were in the wrong. Take the courses if you can get them.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
edited February 2008
Hey than, I was fixing the computer of a cop buddy today and he ran my criminal background check on the network, just for shits and giggles. That ticket is still on my record, so yeah, the cop that pulled me over was just a liar douchebag. That's why my insurance went up. I never fought the ticket because it was in SC and it was only $40, and I was under the impression it wouldn't go on my driving record.
Hey than, I was fixing the computer of a cop buddy today and he ran my criminal background check on the network, just for shits and giggles. That ticket is still on my record, so yeah, the cop that pulled me over was just a liar douchebag. That's why my insurance went up. I never fought the ticket because it was in SC and it was only $40, and I was under the impression it wouldn't go on my driving record.
Oh, when you said "they," I assumed you meant the court, not the cop.
I got a speeding ticket. I'm not sure if it works the same way in washington, but I basically went into court, and they gave me a few options, one of them being taking driving school to get the charged reduced to improper equipment (which is technically 'broken speedometer' or something). So presumably I have an improper equipment on my record rather than an actual speeding violation.
it's probably worth checking if your state has a "good driver statute" on the books.
in some states, if you haven't had a ticket within the last year or so, a traffic court judge may waive your current ticket. it is of course up to his or her discretion.
it's only a one-time deal though; get caught speeding again and the court will probably not treat you too kindly.
anyways, i'd check what laws are on the books for your state.
it's probably worth checking if your state has a "good driver statute" on the books.
in some states, if you haven't had a ticket within the last year or so, a traffic court judge may waive your current ticket. it is of course up to his or her discretion.
it's only a one-time deal though; get caught speeding again and the court will probably not treat you too kindly.
anyways, i'd check what laws are on the books for your state.
"Deferred sentencing" is the term. Unfortunately, that only comes around once every 7 years in Washington state (why, I don't know), and I already used that to get rid of another ticket I got 2 or so years back. No go.
When I visited one of the lovely traffic courts in washington I was given two options, contest, or mitigate. Contest was an all or nothing deal, most likely to fail, mitigate was try to appeal to the judge. I went mitigate and she knocked the ticket in half.
I suggest mitigating it if you already used up the deferal.
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About 6 years ago I got a ticket for going 59 in a 55, I contested and lost. If I could not get away with that, there's no way you could going nearly double.
Nice - finally someone who got as screwed as me (well, moreso as you were even going slower). I got one for doing 74 in a 70. Maybe I should've contested, as the officer mentioned that I was "changing lanes a lot" when I made one lane change (to get out of the fast lane, after which at least 6 cars blew by me scarily fast on each side before I got pulled over) and might've had the wrong guy. Guess there would've been no way to prove that, though. My traffic school cop/instructor guy laughed sympathetically at my misfortune. He said that guy must've been a dick, but was still within his rights.
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Negotiate. How many offenses to have if any on your record?
I got a ticket similar, though mine was taking the carpool lane when I didn't have a carpool.
Went in, negotiated to half the price of the ticket.
The price tag on this thing is $247, by the way.
I'd negotiate and take traffic school if they offer it. It usually takes care of the insurance problem, but it's not guaranteed.
That's the problem with tickets, short of knowing a dirty cop who just deletes it out of the system, there's really no promise, no matter what you do, that the insurance company won't find out.
Anyway, you may be able to get deferred prosecution, where you pay the fine, and as long as you don't get another ticket within a year, it goes away.
I had several tickets and my insurance has never moved up once.
I think they only notice if you cancel it and get it from another place.
Mind you, this may not be true in every case.
Sorry for not having much more sympathy, but you were doing double the speed limit. You should get demerits for it.
You still should be able to get some of the price taken off even though.
I was basing that on the fact that I got a minor moving violation in South Carolina, and they told me it was a misdimeanor that wouldn't go on my traffic record and therefore affect my insurance, provided I paid the $60 fine, which I did.
My insurance still found out about it, even though it wasn't on my driving record, or was removed rather quickly as opposed to a matter of years.
And if it was a misdemeanor, it most definitely went on your record. I think you mean a "violation."
Could be. I was 17 at the time, so this was almost seven years ago. I just remember my insurance going up. Granted all I had to go on there was "their word", but I do know that it wasn't on my driver's record, because I saw my complete record a few years later when I was a corrections officer, and one ticket was on there that I had gotten before that one, but that one was not there.
My only point was that if you want to do something to lower the fine, or not lose points, in HOPES that it won't affect your insurance, then that's cool, but there's really no guarantee.
And yes, I realize I was doing twice the limit, but I was coming off a hill. I don't know of many people who don't accelerate while going up hills. I didn't plan on running 50 all the way down a residential street.
Anyway, my insurance company never even knew about it. I stupidly ASKED them about it and they had no record of it.
I was on theirs, but they never found out about the ticket. It was for going 8 miles over the speed limit because it drops from 70 to 60 on the interstate in South Carolina.
...8 miles over ::grumble::
Sorry dude, but you say it's your first ticket. I still have that one and the one I got while rushing to see my Dad after his heart attack. My rates aren't that bad in comparison. With out those ticket's I'm spending about $10 per month per ticket extra in insurance.
Yes it hurts, yes it sucks, but you were in the wrong. Take the courses if you can get them.
Yeah, that's what you get for believing a cop.
in some states, if you haven't had a ticket within the last year or so, a traffic court judge may waive your current ticket. it is of course up to his or her discretion.
it's only a one-time deal though; get caught speeding again and the court will probably not treat you too kindly.
anyways, i'd check what laws are on the books for your state.
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I suggest mitigating it if you already used up the deferal.
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Nice - finally someone who got as screwed as me (well, moreso as you were even going slower). I got one for doing 74 in a 70. Maybe I should've contested, as the officer mentioned that I was "changing lanes a lot" when I made one lane change (to get out of the fast lane, after which at least 6 cars blew by me scarily fast on each side before I got pulled over) and might've had the wrong guy. Guess there would've been no way to prove that, though. My traffic school cop/instructor guy laughed sympathetically at my misfortune. He said that guy must've been a dick, but was still within his rights.
Hacksaw let us know how it goes.