Yes, that's right. The Green Goblin eventually rode around on a rocket broomstick. Cuz he was all halloweeny, you see.
I dunno, I'm starting to think that the black costume isn't going to be alive at all, that it simply represents Spider-Man's growing madness, and the whole struggle thing is purely mental as Peter tries to keep from going nuts. Those shots where
[spoiler:8ed28ce761]Pete is tearing off the black costume don't make it appear like it's some kind of living liquid.[/spoiler:8ed28ce761]
What if he freaks out and tears it off only to wake up in it the next morning?
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What if he freaks out and tears it off only to wake up in it the next morning?
[spoiler:26869bac56]Then it probably is alive. But the scenes where the black stuff is creeping up his arm and swallowing him might be some kind of freaky dream sequence, sorta how originally in the comics he would dream of the two costumes coming to life and fighting over him.[/spoiler:26869bac56]
But that still leaves the question of how Brock would fit in to all of this. Maybe there's hope for a real Venom yet.
well the "black suit all in his head" thing would make sense if you look at the last scene of the trailer. He's upside down from a building looking at his reflection and sees his original costume, but is wearing the black one.
Though if it turns out to be a whole "innter-turmoil" thing, I'll be pissed...even if he does refer to is as "some sort of venom"
Yes, that's right. The Green Goblin originally rode around on a rocket broomstick. Cuz he was all halloweeny, you see.
I dunno, I'm starting to think that the black costume isn't going to be alive at all, that it simply represents Spider-Man's growing madness, and the whole struggle thing is purely mental as Peter tries to keep from going nuts. Those shots where
[spoiler:bf212934d5]Pete is tearing off the black costume don't make it appear like it's some kind of living liquid.[/spoiler:bf212934d5]
[spoiler:bf212934d5]It's possible that those shots weren't finished, and we'll see strands of stretchy, CGI goop trying to hold the sections together as he tears them off in the final cut.[/spoiler:bf212934d5]
I mean, even the shot of Sandman looked pretty rough. And they're still filming, aren't they?
Oh, also: I've been hearing that the shot in the trailer of him looking at his reflection isn't in the movie. I think it was just there in the trailer to add emphasis to the duality theme. He definitely wears the black suit.
What if he freaks out and tears it off only to wake up in it the next morning?
[spoiler:d4005f25b5]Then it probably is alive. But the scenes where the black stuff is creeping up his arm and swallowing him might be some kind of freaky dream sequence, sorta how originally in the comics he would dream of the two costumes coming to life and fighting over him.[/spoiler:d4005f25b5]
But that still leaves the question of how Brock would fit in to all of this. Maybe there's hope for a real Venom yet.
That was just what I imagined when I saw the scene of him tearing off the costume. After realizing something weird's going on, he tries to get rid of it by tearing it off only to realize that he can't.
Then he loses it when he hits the bell tower later.
I'm gonna say that i;m 99% sure that this is most likely not the real Goblin suit. There probly going CG with it in the flying scenes and haven't added it in yet.
I get the impression that the symbiote actually attaches itself to one of Parker's actual Spider-Man suits and becomes a part of it. So rather than it being a gooey interpretaion of one of the suits like in the comics it's more like a tar stained Spidey costume.
[spoiler:e860656e67]So when he's ripping it off in the belltower it comes away like a normal spandex spidey suit would.[/spoiler:e860656e67]
I'm gonna say that i;m 99% sure that this is most likely not the real Goblin suit. There probly going CG with it in the flying scenes and haven't added it in yet.
That doesent make sense, why would you show an un CGIed special effects scene in a trailer? Why would you even bother doing CGI to edit in something as mundane as a suit when its so much easier to just put the actor in a suit?
I dont reckon we're going to see the Goblin suit in this one, In the trailer I think Harry is just utilising his dads tech for whatever he's trying to do in the scene, that doesent neccisarilly mean hes going to go all out "I am the green goblin reborn" crazy in the movie.
I'm gonna say that i;m 99% sure that this is most likely not the real Goblin suit. There probly going CG with it in the flying scenes and haven't added it in yet.
That doesent make sense, why would you show an un CGIed special effects scene in a trailer? Why would you even bother doing CGI to edit in something as mundane as a suit when its so much easier to just put the actor in a suit?
I dont reckon we're going to see the Goblin suit in this one, In the trailer I think Harry is just utilising his dads tech for whatever he's trying to do in the scene, that doesent neccisarilly mean hes going to go all out "I am the green goblin reborn" crazy in the movie.
Well perhaps I'm hoping beyone hope...but come on. Harry's rich the least he could do is buy a better mask.
Its more likely he tries to tackle Spider-Man as is but fails miserably. Spidey obviously doesn't land him in jail, so even more frustrated he goes away and takes the formula plus dons the costume fully.
I'm gonna say that i;m 99% sure that this is most likely not the real Goblin suit. There probly going CG with it in the flying scenes and haven't added it in yet.
That doesent make sense, why would you show an un CGIed special effects scene in a trailer? Why would you even bother doing CGI to edit in something as mundane as a suit when its so much easier to just put the actor in a suit?
I dont reckon we're going to see the Goblin suit in this one, In the trailer I think Harry is just utilising his dads tech for whatever he's trying to do in the scene, that doesent neccisarilly mean hes going to go all out "I am the green goblin reborn" crazy in the movie.
Well perhaps I'm hoping beyone hope...but come on. Harry's rich the least he could do is buy a better mask.
Yeah but putting on the mask would mean becoming the green goblin for reals.
And its still up in the air what Harry's motivations are going to be in this film. Up until now he's been conflicted between being Peters friend and his dads son, the moment you show him in the mask its full confirmation that he's gone the batshit loco route.
Which means that maybe he doesent and he eventually comes through to help Peter against Venom or Sandman or whoever, or maybe he does but they dont want to put that reveal in the trailer.
Picked up the most recent issue of USM thinking it was just going to The Scorpion, but it's the Clone Saga.
I was pretty sure this was considered a stain on marvels history, and most people prefer to pretend it never happened, but looks like they are trying to bring it back.
Picked up the most recent issue of USM thinking it was just going to The Scorpion, but it's the Clone Saga.
I was pretty sure this was considered a stain on marvels history, and most people prefer to pretend it never happened, but looks like they are trying to bring it back.
I think Ultimate Spider-Man is going to try to rework the Clone Saga so that it doesn't suck. Too bad its not gonna work.
USM is a way to have Bendis write the entire Marvel universe.
what? That doesn't make any sense.
What about Ultimates? Or any of the other Ultimate titles? IMO they introduce alot more aspects of the marvel U. Peter had zero part in the Ultimate Galactus trilogy.
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I'm guessing Ultimate black Ben Reilly whips up a couple of Spider-Clones and starts calling them Ben Reilly Juniors or something, and that's how we get an Ultimate Ben Reilly that looks like Peter and has spider-powers.
I'm hoping the Ultimate Clone saga is more like the first Clone Saga rather than the 90's sequel.
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And in other news:
[spoiler:b9e80dcb2f]Yeah, so. Spidey's unmasked himself on T.V. J.J.'s threatening to sue. Doc Ock is all pissed off in this one issue and attack's Spidey's school. Are people talking about this in the Civil War thread? Cuz last time I was in there it was all 'Who could beat Namor underwater?' Where can I read reactions from other people who are totally blown away by this?[/spoiler:b9e80dcb2f]
[spoiler:3d39eb323d]J.J.'s threatening to sue.[/spoiler:3d39eb323d]
Threatening? He did sue. 5 million clams.
[spoiler:3d39eb323d] And thus ends the personal life of Peter Parker forever. In a way, his identity being revealed seems like an interesting idea and makes me want to pick up one of his books, but it seems like a shortsighted idea on the part of Peter and his editors. He could be sued by hundreds of people, not just JJJ, not to mention spend years in jail for who knows what. And he'll never hold down a normal job again, or be able to let any more ordinary people into his life.[/spoiler:3d39eb323d]
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I know. It's an astonishing move.
[spoiler:a91d3b2d67]Peter's private life and his struggle to keep his identity a secret has been an important part of Spider-Man since the beginning, and they haven't left any kind of a loop-hole to undo this, no 'Whoops, just kidding!' way to make Spidey's identity a secret again. At least, not without getting a huge negative 'cop-out' reaction from everyone.
I just read through an issue where ol' Doc Ock catches the news conference, then rampages through the city to Peter's school and starts tearing the place up. Pete's students, having learned he's Spider-Man, rush to his defense and help distract Ock long enough for Spidey to take him down.
It's gonna be more of the same from now on. How long before some villain attacks the Daily Bugle, or target's Peter's family? This could be the catalyst for Peter's marriage to MJ breaking up, as everyone's been anticipating for a while. Not just because of the stress this will put on things, but because of an effort to keep MJ safe. This is something that will truly change the character forever. And not one of those bogus, organic-webbing style changes either.[/spoiler:a91d3b2d67]
As far as lawsuits go, I'm sure his new best friend Tony Stark will be willing to foot the bill, considering this is all his fault in the first place.
[spoiler:25328090f8]I see it now: This is going to be the culmination of 2 recent trends: Screwing over peter and cheapening Gwen Stacy's death. He's going to get put in jail for her death, and probably, knowing the editors, get raped by The Shocker to show the lackluster conditions of modern jails.[/spoiler:25328090f8]
[spoiler:b8e07d4b1a]I'm sure his status as Tony Stark's right hand man will keep him from being chased by the law. At least until he decides to switch sides...[/spoiler:b8e07d4b1a]
Has this been posted yet? It's quite spoilerish for anyone out there who is still trying to avoid anything related to Spider-Man 3.
[realspoiler:a92f30e2e4]Interesting stuff here. The portion of the symbiote that's already covered Brock's body looks like Spider-Man's black suit, and it's really weird seeing Brock starting to form the trademark fangs, instead of the suit itself. I can't wait to see the final product.[/realspoiler:a92f30e2e4]
I do like how the Symbiote looks though. According to interviews however, Venom is supposed to look more like the comic version. It's certainly an interesting take though, [spoiler:dc540988ae]giving him the fangs.[/spoiler:dc540988ae]
Clone Saga didnt suck. Did it go on too long? Yes. Was it the writers fault? No. Marvel fucked it up. It was gonna be over in like a year or two tops and it was one of Marvels BEST selling books, so they kept pushing the writers to keep it going and milk it more and more, forcing Alpha / Omega, AoA style Scarlet Spider books, bookline wide crossovers over and over and back peddling reveals over and over until there was no real way to get out of it for a long time. Even with all that, it was more enjoyable then the current JMS spider totem crap. Most of the people that hate the Clone Saga are people that havent even read it and just bash it to be "cool" on the internet and spout of the stuff others have said. So while I'll concede it definitely had its up and down moments, the Clone Saga was far from the worst stories in Spiderman's history.
The current Ultimate version is off to a decent start. However, it seems Scorpion is just a throw away character they basically wasted in a short fight sequence to shock us with his identity. It was a cool, sleak redesign of him too. I suppose he could stick around longer, but I can't see it happening. For anyone not up on USM, it seems to be SHIELD behind this as Miles Warren was forced to work for them after Hobgoblin arc (he was Harry's shrink) and is currently dating Aunt May. Of course, its not set in stone if it is him and he could be a red herring, but pretty damn convienent that hes dating May and clone saga starts up. Ben Reilly will probably be the Carnage in the preview covers, but just speculation on my part at this point.
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What if he freaks out and tears it off only to wake up in it the next morning?
[spoiler:26869bac56]Then it probably is alive. But the scenes where the black stuff is creeping up his arm and swallowing him might be some kind of freaky dream sequence, sorta how originally in the comics he would dream of the two costumes coming to life and fighting over him.[/spoiler:26869bac56]
But that still leaves the question of how Brock would fit in to all of this. Maybe there's hope for a real Venom yet.
Though if it turns out to be a whole "innter-turmoil" thing, I'll be pissed...even if he does refer to is as "some sort of venom"
[spoiler:bf212934d5]It's possible that those shots weren't finished, and we'll see strands of stretchy, CGI goop trying to hold the sections together as he tears them off in the final cut.[/spoiler:bf212934d5]
I mean, even the shot of Sandman looked pretty rough. And they're still filming, aren't they?
That was just what I imagined when I saw the scene of him tearing off the costume. After realizing something weird's going on, he tries to get rid of it by tearing it off only to realize that he can't.
Then he loses it when he hits the bell tower later.
[spoiler:e860656e67]So when he's ripping it off in the belltower it comes away like a normal spandex spidey suit would.[/spoiler:e860656e67]
That doesent make sense, why would you show an un CGIed special effects scene in a trailer? Why would you even bother doing CGI to edit in something as mundane as a suit when its so much easier to just put the actor in a suit?
I dont reckon we're going to see the Goblin suit in this one, In the trailer I think Harry is just utilising his dads tech for whatever he's trying to do in the scene, that doesent neccisarilly mean hes going to go all out "I am the green goblin reborn" crazy in the movie.
Well perhaps I'm hoping beyone hope...but come on. Harry's rich the least he could do is buy a better mask.
Yeah but putting on the mask would mean becoming the green goblin for reals.
And its still up in the air what Harry's motivations are going to be in this film. Up until now he's been conflicted between being Peters friend and his dads son, the moment you show him in the mask its full confirmation that he's gone the batshit loco route.
Which means that maybe he doesent and he eventually comes through to help Peter against Venom or Sandman or whoever, or maybe he does but they dont want to put that reveal in the trailer.
Who's gonna get a good look at him? Best they'll come up with is, 'He's a white guy!"
I was pretty sure this was considered a stain on marvels history, and most people prefer to pretend it never happened, but looks like they are trying to bring it back.
I think Ultimate Spider-Man is going to try to rework the Clone Saga so that it doesn't suck. Too bad its not gonna work.
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what? That doesn't make any sense.
What about Ultimates? Or any of the other Ultimate titles? IMO they introduce alot more aspects of the marvel U. Peter had zero part in the Ultimate Galactus trilogy.
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I might start reading Ultimate Spider-Man just to see this. And to see if he still rocks the sweatshirt.
he was like ultimate dr connor's black lab assistant or something
or was that in the movies
shit now i don't remember
"Scary clown." D-:
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According to Wiki, this clone saga is going to last for a bit (not nearly as long as the original I hope)
It will go from USM 97-104
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[spoiler:b9e80dcb2f]Yeah, so. Spidey's unmasked himself on T.V. J.J.'s threatening to sue. Doc Ock is all pissed off in this one issue and attack's Spidey's school. Are people talking about this in the Civil War thread? Cuz last time I was in there it was all 'Who could beat Namor underwater?' Where can I read reactions from other people who are totally blown away by this?[/spoiler:b9e80dcb2f]
Threatening? He did sue. 5 million clams.
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[spoiler:3d39eb323d] And thus ends the personal life of Peter Parker forever. In a way, his identity being revealed seems like an interesting idea and makes me want to pick up one of his books, but it seems like a shortsighted idea on the part of Peter and his editors. He could be sued by hundreds of people, not just JJJ, not to mention spend years in jail for who knows what. And he'll never hold down a normal job again, or be able to let any more ordinary people into his life.[/spoiler:3d39eb323d]
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[spoiler:a91d3b2d67]Peter's private life and his struggle to keep his identity a secret has been an important part of Spider-Man since the beginning, and they haven't left any kind of a loop-hole to undo this, no 'Whoops, just kidding!' way to make Spidey's identity a secret again. At least, not without getting a huge negative 'cop-out' reaction from everyone.
I just read through an issue where ol' Doc Ock catches the news conference, then rampages through the city to Peter's school and starts tearing the place up. Pete's students, having learned he's Spider-Man, rush to his defense and help distract Ock long enough for Spidey to take him down.
It's gonna be more of the same from now on. How long before some villain attacks the Daily Bugle, or target's Peter's family? This could be the catalyst for Peter's marriage to MJ breaking up, as everyone's been anticipating for a while. Not just because of the stress this will put on things, but because of an effort to keep MJ safe. This is something that will truly change the character forever. And not one of those bogus, organic-webbing style changes either.[/spoiler:a91d3b2d67]
As far as lawsuits go, I'm sure his new best friend Tony Stark will be willing to foot the bill, considering this is all his fault in the first place.
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[realspoiler:a92f30e2e4]Interesting stuff here. The portion of the symbiote that's already covered Brock's body looks like Spider-Man's black suit, and it's really weird seeing Brock starting to form the trademark fangs, instead of the suit itself. I can't wait to see the final product.[/realspoiler:a92f30e2e4]
I do like how the Symbiote looks though. According to interviews however, Venom is supposed to look more like the comic version. It's certainly an interesting take though, [spoiler:dc540988ae]giving him the fangs.[/spoiler:dc540988ae]
The current Ultimate version is off to a decent start. However, it seems Scorpion is just a throw away character they basically wasted in a short fight sequence to shock us with his identity. It was a cool, sleak redesign of him too. I suppose he could stick around longer, but I can't see it happening. For anyone not up on USM, it seems to be SHIELD behind this as Miles Warren was forced to work for them after Hobgoblin arc (he was Harry's shrink) and is currently dating Aunt May. Of course, its not set in stone if it is him and he could be a red herring, but pretty damn convienent that hes dating May and clone saga starts up. Ben Reilly will probably be the Carnage in the preview covers, but just speculation on my part at this point.