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BREAKING NEWS: Shooting at North Illinois University...
Zahaladeen
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STORY: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/nui.shooting.campus.2.654370.html
North Illinois University
Initial reports say 18 wounded and taken to hospital, two killed.
Suspect dead, allegedly self-inflicted.
Fired 20 rounds into a classroom.
Witness states that the shooter was a white man wearing black.
This is as of 2:59 p.m. PST.
STORY: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/nui.shooting.campus.2.654370.html
North Illinois University
Initial reports say 18 wounded and taken to hospital, two killed.
Suspect dead, allegedly self-inflicted.
Fired 20 rounds into a classroom.
Witness states that the shooter was a white man wearing black.
This is as of 2:59 p.m. PST.
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Guns certainly make the work easier.
Uh, this isn't all that true. I mean yeah America right now couldn't outlaw guns, but plenty of countries have made it incredibly hard to get access to guns. To the point that most psychotic people can't get guns, especially the more effective ones.
Still tragic and I refuse to look or read anything else about the subject until Monday because until the mess is sorted out, everything you hear will just be a mindless cocktease.
edit: after I finish reading the little bits about the shooting on the front page of CNN.com, I notice another link that says a little boy shotguns his sister over a bag of chips. I don't know whether I am more appalled over the boy's actions or that CNN used shotgun as a verb the same way that we gamers might use it.
Oh, and the gun control debate will never happen in America because for true and just gun control legislation to occur, gun rights advocates would have to give up a lot of their guns and gun control advocate would have to admit that people have a right to own weapons and would have to start admitting a lot of things that they don't want to admit and that if every home in America had a legally registered firearm, there would be nothing they (gun control advocates) could do about it.
I mention state constitutions because like the OP I live in WA state, and the state constitution specifically states that there is an individual right to bear arms. Which is a hell of a lot clearer than the U.S. Constitution.
(Article I)
SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.
And CNN is reporting that 17 people have been shot, but the coroner's office has reported no fatalities.
Yeah I'm going to support the gooey iniative here. All in favor say "ZOMG". All opposed say "lulz".
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Corrected.
Well what is easier? Getting a gun legally? Or illegally?
I'd find it pretty hard to get hold of a gun in England right now. There is maybe one gun shop within 50 miles of where I live. And even then, I'd need a whole boatload of licenses.
Just seems strange to me, no, un fathomable, that some people pretend that having strict gun laws is pointless, or unworkable.
How many people are going to be shot per year before some action is taken? It is puzzling.
Gun crime is also top of my list of 'cons' for moving to the united states (which I have been working on for about a year). I don't want to get shot, and moving for work to New York or San Francisco worries me.
I'm still here. I had a class in Cole this morning. Luckily, it wasn't this afternoon.
They're still sorting through the chaos, but CNN's reporting 5 dead including the gunman.
edit: you know, it might be a little insensitive to turn this into a gun debate
Holy shit, Monoxide - I didn't know you were there. Are people doing okay? I called all of my friends and everyone I know seems to be accounted for.
The thing is, nobody is going to run to the gun shop, buy a gun and bullets, and go shoot up a classroom. The meager restrictions in the US already cover that. Most of these shootings are well planned, and strict gun controls aren't going to completely end school shootings.
Besides, didn't a school shooting happen in Norway, where guns are almost impossible to obtain?
But it appears that nobody has died.
Then again people could be in serious condition.
University Gunman Kills 4.
Glad to hear it.
This, those shootings at that city council meeting, the Lane Bryant shootings, and a few others that just seem off from the usual gang-related stuff.
Of course it could just be media attention.
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Does it matter?
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According to the BBC, it's the second college shooting this week and the forth shooting at an educational institution within the last 7 days:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7246003.stm
WTF.
It's strange particularly since violent crimes have been trending downward for a longass time now. Chicago's the safest it's been in decades (for adults, I think teens are still pretty fucked with gangs in some areas) yet Tinley Park just last week and now this. Hell, neither of them were even typical homicides or manslaughter, but premeditated executions of sorts.
Wow, isn't there somewhere you could go to get bent?
I'll go look.
Seriously. The VA Tech shooting last year just left me numb inside for a long time. I'm an engineering student, and you see maybe a hundred other faceless engineers every day. It's scary as hell to think that one of them might be stressed or hung up on something else to the point that they feel that trying to kill several of their classmates is a viable option. I'd like to think that more open communication could help, but shit, where do you start!?
Because there were probably some meaningless personal slights or something during the class, and, well fuck those guys they deserve to die for looking at me funny. Or something similiar.
Was this his own class, actually? I haven't really kept up on it since the news isn't likely to be as checked when compared to tomorrow or Sunday.