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[Spelunk On] Etrian Odyssey 2 - Even in this thread, F.O.E.

HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Games and Technology

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What's the hubub about part two?
  • Enhanced mapping, with more icons and colors, and less restriction!
  • All 9 original classes return with enhanced artwork!
  • 3 new classes - Doctor Magus, Gunner, and Beast!
  • Original development team worked on it, very faithful to the first!
  • Stat allocation - you can now add to your stats using the skill system!
  • More treacherous F.O.E.s! Beware their trickiness and power!

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Alchemist
Providing 'magic' attacks to cover each base element, alchemists make great back row damage dealers. New to the sequel is the removal of poison abilities in exchange for several physical based attacks, as well as the passive ability of doing bonus damage to enemies who are vulnerable to a damage type. Gone is the precious TP regen, however.

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Beast
Writeup forthcoming.

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Dark Hunter
In no way masking what they are, Atlus has made the Dark Hunter a dominatrix class capable of preventing the enemy from using abilities. As in part 1, they are masters of whips and swords, though in part 2 they have gained the passive abilities to resist status ailments, giving them better survivability to make use of them.

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Hexer
Writeup forthcoming.

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Medic
A staple in any group in part 1, the medic returns to part 2 boasting more convenient healing abilities. Stronger initial heals, patch up available at the first level of the 'heal' skill; what more could you ask for? I suppose immunize, which was removed from their skillset this time around. Bummer.

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Samurai
Writeup forthcoming.

Etrian Odyssey 2 Game Tips

Well, I suppose the time has come for us to start compiling some game data. Spoilered of course.

Special Drop Condition Info:
Hedgehog: Long Pin (50%, Kill in 1 Turns)
Venomfly: Lymph (80%, Kill with Volt Element)
Redhorn: Red Horn (80%, Kill with Fire Element)
Kingmai: Iron Shell (70%, Kill with Ice Element)
Evil Eye: Gem Eye (70%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Cube Gel: Fiber Hide (80%, Kill with Stab Element)
Raflesia: Gum Vine (50%, Kill with Cut Element)

Mystue: Holed Rock (85%, Kill with Stab Element)
Garauchi: Ruby Scale (80%, Kill with Volt Element)
Tortmail: Armor Bone (75%, Kill with Bash Element)
Red Gel: Ice Fiber (75%, Kill with Ice Element)
Addleowl: Curse Nail (80%, Kill with Fire Element)

Fishman: Dew Scale (75%, Kill with Ice Element)
Moriyana: Front Wing (80%, Kill with Volt Element)
Sleipnir: White Hoof (100%, Kill while Legs are bound)
Clawbug: Stag Horn (60%, Kill with Cut Element)
Hugecrab: Whole Hull (75%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Redfish: Red Scale (75%, Kill with Fire Element)

Windsnip: Wind Blade (80%, Kill with Volt Element)
Big Moth: Dark Lymph (75%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Wrathbud: Blue Petal (90%, Kill in 1 Turns)
Petaloid: Hazard Bud (95%, Kill with Death Status)
Venombug: Curve Horn (75%, Kill with Fire Element)

Mandrake: Coal Brick (85%, Kill with Fire Element)
Ebonwing: Coal Skull (75%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Steelgun: Gold Arm (95%, Kill while Arms are bound)
Gemzard: Head Gem (80%, Kill with Ice Element)
Armorman: True Soul (65%, Kill with Bash Element)

Kingcap: Closed Cap (75%, Kill with Death Status)
Trihorn: Whole Horn (45%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Muckdile: Iron Fang (90%, Kill with Cut, Bash or Stab Element)

Awebull: Beast Meat (100%, Kill in 3 Turns)
Flygourd: Curse Vine (100%, Kill while completely bound)
Dinolich: Sword Rib (35%, Don't kill with Stab Element)
Asterios: Axe Shard (85%, Kill while Arms are bound)
Riptor: Call Horn (85%, Kill while Head is bound)
Raidmole: Sword Claw (85%, Kill while Arms are bound)
Kilohorn: Kilo Horn (85%, Kill while Head is bound)
Icefiend: Evil Rock (65%, Kill with Bash Element)
Pollener: Hazard Bud (95%, Kill with Death Status)
Stalker: Harvester (100%, Kill in 1 Turns)
Beamedge: Sword Chip (90%, Kill in 3 Turns)
Iceking: Ice Bone (95%, Kill in 5 Turns)

Chimaera: Brute Wing (100%, Kill while Poisoned)
Hellion: Sharp Claw (100%, Kill with Death Status)
Scylla: Snow Bone (100%, Kill in 3 Turns)
Harpuia: Cut Quill (100%, Kill while Poisoned)
Colossus: Red Spine (95%, Don't kill with Cut/Bash/Stab Elements)
Salamox: Flame Puff (100%, Kill with Fire Element)
Golem: Statue Arm (100%, Kill with Death Status)
Wyvern: Tough Wing (100%, Kill in 7 Turns)
Briareus: Giant Post (95%, Kill with Bash Element)
Wyrm: Fire Fang (100%, Kill with Fire Element)
Drake: Frost Bone (100%, Kill with Ice Element)
Dragon: Amp Barbel (100%, Kill with Volt Element)

Etrian Odyssey the First
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The rather scenic entrance to the labyrinth.
Listen now, about a town
That found itself under great renown
I tell you now of that small town
The town that was called Etria.

There it stood, the fearsome wood
The wood of which people wondered, "Should
we go in? 'Twould be a sin?
To go into that fearsome wood?"

Word did spread, and rumor led
To dreams that took hold in people's heads
See how that town flourished
When travelers came pouring in.

Thus they came, to seek their fame
The bold, the proud, and the mystic lame
All hoped they could make their name
By conquering the Labyrinth.

I was one, and had my fun
The green halls filled with phenomenons
It was worth the risks we'd run
On our Etrian Odyssey!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5MMqNgUzM

Summary: This town, Etria, has a labyrinth nearby which has become something of a money maker for local merchants sell their wares to adventurers. You arrive in Etria, seeking the same fame, and form up a guild to take into the labyrinth.

Etrian Odyssey is a dungeon crawling RPG for the DS. It very much adheres to oldschool rules of RPG's, meaning it is lengthy, grindy, turn based in combat, and is actually pretty difficult (especially at the start). Aside from being made by Atlus, almost ensuring its awesomeness, Etrian Odyssey brings in honest use of the stylus on the DS. Instead of resorting to pen and papering your maps, the game provides you the tools to draw your own maps as you explore the labyrinth! And trust me, once you have a floor mapped out, you're probably ready to face the monsters down on the floor below. 1UP.com sums up the criticism of the game in a very easy to understand way:
1up.com wrote:
Etrian Odyssey will definitely appeal more to the OCD'd than the ADD'd, and its punishing difficulty and very deliberate pacing may turn off younger gamers who grew up on flashier roleplayers. But it offers a real sense of wonder and a sense of accomplishment -- feelings missing from far too many modern games.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    i will buy this, i spent so many god damn hours in that labyrinth, i'm ready for round 2

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    EVEN IN A PENNY ARCADE THREAD

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Y'know, while trying to Google up some images I saw the thumbnail for one of Rocky in front of the forest shouting, "Yo Etrian!" but all of the hits that came up were "forbidden." I was totally going to include it in this thread. D:

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I googled that video....wtf was that.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Holy shit Henroid, what have you done good sir?! I... I can't wait to play this. (Though I never beat the first one)

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I need a "how to start" for this game, because I'm useless at it. I enter the place and even the first enemy can two-shot anything but a dedicated meat shield while all the game cares about telling me is how to draw the map.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    don't worry you are doing it right

    seriously this game is on par with putting your balls on a table and hitting them with a hammer

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The boxart was unveiled some weeks ago, too.

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    Also, there's a Derek Stiles lookalike(to no surprise).

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    Atlus USA is playing the waiting game with us. I just know it.


    On a sidenote: there's an awesome PS2 game that Atlus published called 'Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land' which is very similar.

    And much, much darker. No hand-drawn maps, but it's got a good story, and some nice music.

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Haha, geez Derek Stiles.
    I'm pretty excited about EO 2, I've been doing a re-run through of the entire labyrinth after restarting all my characters to level 1. I had never actually fought the golem the first time around - boy was I surprised when my level 20 (fully outfitted) team couldn't hack it.

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Oh man, I just recently started playing the first one. I typically hate dungeon crawls and traditional turn based RPGs, but damn if I'm not addicted.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    EO2 had better come out here.

    Or else.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Not to jump the gun, but Atlus's MB revived the Etrian Odyssey section a week ago.

    I'm predicting a late February/March announcement.

    They wouldn't let a sequel to a parent company-developed game go unlocalized.

    ...right?


    Also, I just finished PW3, so I'm going after the final(5th stratum) boss again. Lots of grinding to do, though. I got murdered on my first try.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I never actually finished the first one. I got down to the last Stratum and took a month-long hiatus. Then I realized I didn't really know which way I was trying to go, which is sorta a downer when you're punished harshly for taking extraneous steps.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    One of the floors of the fifth stratum requires a ridiculously long trek to get to where you need to go. Very few shortcuts or anything. Just pain.

    It's pretty much required to map out every last square.

    (Then again, most of us probably do that anyway...)

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The final (extra) boss is a stupid cheap whore.

    And I still have not gotten some of the dragon's rare drops, but I stopped caring. Even the completionist in me couldn't stomach it anymore.

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  • elevatureelevature Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I really need to finish the first one, I stopped somewhere around B12F. I want to finish it before the second comes out, but if it's not even out in Japan yet I probably have some time.

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  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The first game was like a pimp: even when it beat you mercilessly you just couldn't wait to go back for more. Until the fifth stratum. FUCK THE FIFTH.

    God dammit now I feel like I need to go back and finish the fifth fucking strata. Fuck.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm stealing images posted here for the OP, by the way. :P

    Here's how you start the first game: You get your team assembled, which I believe should include a protector, landshark, medic, and alchemist; the fifth is your choice (a lot of folks say survivalist, I say dark hunter). Buy them all the boots available from the shop to give them that nifty +1 agility boost. Do other errands in town (seeing what it is about), head to the labyrinth, and spend a bit of time in the first bigass room getting a level before going into unknown places.

    By the way, for as much as I know about this game, I'm still making my classic fuckup; not buying another warp wire when I get back to town.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I am not a fan of stat allocation.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    I am not a fan of stat allocation.

    Can't face the responsibility involved with it?

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    For these games where you have a party, I prefer to not have stat allocation, as well.

    Not having the player allocate stats results in characters that seem quirkier to me... because if it were up to me, everybody of class X would end up having the same stats.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    I am not a fan of stat allocation.

    Can't face the responsibility involved with it?

    Pretty much. It's like whooooooops I put 1 point in agi. Better erase my save.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    I am not a fan of stat allocation.

    Can't face the responsibility involved with it?

    Pretty much. It's like whooooooops I put 1 point in agi. Better erase my save.

    Agility is useful for everyone, for the record. And I don't think the reprecussions of misallocating a stat point are going to be severe enough to require deleting your save.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    I am not a fan of stat allocation.

    Can't face the responsibility involved with it?

    Pretty much. It's like whooooooops I put 1 point in agi. Better erase my save.

    Agility is useful for everyone, for the record. And I don't think the reprecussions of misallocating a stat point are going to be severe enough to require deleting your save.
    Thank god not everyone is as anal as I am. Sucks to be me, though.

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  • UberEvUberEv Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    This is as best a place to post this as anywhere. My wife is currently looking for a copy of the English version of Etrian Odyssey, but we cannot seem to find a place that has it in stock and will ship to Japan. Anyone know anywhere that I could just order it for her and have it shipped? I checked Play-Asia, Yes-Asia, etc... but really haven't found much.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    are you in the military? if you have an apo address shipitapo.com can help you out.

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  • UberEvUberEv Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    are you in the military? if you have an apo address shipitapo.com can help you out.

    No, just a worthless student.

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    As someone who generally doesn't care for Japanese RPGs, but has fond memories of The Bard's Tale being their first RPG, would it be worthwhile for me to check out Etrian Odyssey? Even the story, or lack of, sounds more appealing. A good classic dungeon crawler sure beats 'spikey haired teenage hero saves the world from certain doom...again'.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    A thousand times, yes.

    This game was basically designed for that demographic. There's a story there, it's just given in small pieces the deeper you get in the Labyrinth.

    Also, the price dropped to $19.99 at EBStop recently.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Even though I understand the game is meant for a niche audience (those who don't mind oldschool RPG abuse) I recommend it to everyone. I just think this game is such a great hook to get people into dungeon crawlers.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even though I understand the game is meant for a niche audience (those who don't mind oldschool RPG abuse) I recommend it to everyone. I just think this game is such a great hook to get people into dungeon crawlers.

    It's very... hookish. I fired up EO, examined my maps to see what's what in the fifth stratum, set out to complete my maps, and well... cook me in tartar sauce and serve me with chives. :roll:

    So far I've concluded that F O E are pushovers compared to some random-spawn packs. For example, two sleepyblossoms and two slimes, or one slime and two kingcrabs. Kingcrab, why do you OHKO my alchemist again and again?

    edit: They'd be nuts not to release EO2 in English, right? I mean, the first one seems to have basically sold out everywhere.

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    eelektrik wrote: »
    As someone who generally doesn't care for Japanese RPGs, but has fond memories of The Bard's Tale being their first RPG, would it be worthwhile for me to check out Etrian Odyssey? Even the story, or lack of, sounds more appealing. A good classic dungeon crawler sure beats 'spikey haired teenage hero saves the world from certain doom...again'.

    Playing Etrian Odyssey reminds me of old school PC RPGs, like Bard's Tale, Wizardry, Might n Magic, Ultima, just 1000 times more streamlined.

    The game is tough-as-nails, thrilling whenever you fight the sub-FOE (mini-boss), and crazy heart-thumping as you fight the nuts FOEs (bosses).
    Since you can actually re-allocate your points after level 30-ish, you can try a different host of combinations for your party.

    If you prefer RPG games like Final Fantasy to Wizardry, you'll probably hate this game since this game is very much the antithesis of Final Fantasy : it's not filled with emo stories, long ass animations and FMVs, easy as pie battles and bosses.

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  • mogdemonmogdemon Kansas, USRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Wow, guess I'm not the only person who stopped playing somewhere in the 5th stratum. Totally forgot about this game. Now I'm torn on whether to bring it back with me to my dorm after I visit home on Monday, or have any sort of chance of academic success next week.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    FOE's are actually kinda fearsome on the first two stratums. Well, until you get to the latter parts of each stratum. They slowly become non-threats.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, supposedly you bring stuff into EO2 from EO1 if you completed it and all that.

    So I would finish it up if you plan on playing EO2.

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Well, supposedly you bring stuff into EO2 from EO1 if you completed it and all that.

    So I would finish it up if you plan on playing EO2.

    Awesome. I love games that do this.

    And judging by the posts in here, sounds like I'm gonna have to pick up EO if I can find it this week, after I'm not feeling like shit....fucking flu.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    eelektrik wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Well, supposedly you bring stuff into EO2 from EO1 if you completed it and all that.

    So I would finish it up if you plan on playing EO2.

    Awesome. I love games that do this.

    And judging by the posts in here, sounds like I'm gonna have to pick up EO if I can find it this week, after I'm not feeling like shit....fucking flu.

    Oh and Bard's Tale was one of my first RPGs as well. It's not AS deep I would say but it's certainly up there. It's definitely Bard's Tale-esque. I loved it.

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  • NabobNabob Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Whoa whoa whoa, how have I never heard of this? It sounds like exactly the kind of game I would love... I just went and bought a copy on eBay... I can't wait till it gets here.

    I should pay more attention to small DS titles.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    People complaining about stat allocation? This ain't D2 suckers, you can take a ten level penalty and get all that shit back! Ten levels is nothing!

    I have a complete EO save, and three shinryu swords. The first one took me about a month to get, the next two took less than three hours.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    And so, Fenrir and his Skolls kill my ass when I had one attack left to finish him off.

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