I have Subsistence. The 2nd disc came out once. You really only care about the first disc unless you're a crazed fan.
I'm buying the pack just for a brand new copy of MGS. However, I may be in the "crazed fan" set. The original copy of Snake Eater I own was actually ShimSham's that I borrowed, but when my house fire burned down he just wrote it off as a loss, when it actually still works despite the rad soot markings all over the disc. And the case and manual still smell of fire.
I'm still holding out hope that they'll not only put the full second disc of Subsistence in there, online not working be damned, but also have MGS1 integral. Honestly though, I mostly wanna get it for Substance. That shit is impossible to find.
Maybe they'll even surprise us with the Document and the extra DVD that came with the super-special Subsistence?
You could try looking for the PC versions of MGS1 and 2 on ebay. Those ought to still be hanging around, and they were both the Substance and Subsistance versions.
You could try looking for the PC versions of MGS1 and 2 on ebay. Those ought to still be hanging around, and they were both the Substance and Subsistance versions.
Oh, I have them. It's just that playing Metal Gear on the PC just feels... wrong. I wanna have a lean, sleek complete collection that can all be played on the PS3 (well, except for Portable Ops), is that so wrong?
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Extra coding? You mean, throwing the data on the disc and then busting out some new menus? Yeah, I'm sure that will take a huge amount of time and money. And odds are you don't know this, but QA is the cheapest portion of game design.
I know this might surprise some of you, but there are companies who don't just shit out re-releases at the lowest possible cost whenever they have a chance to try to earn some profit. Taking into account all of the Metal Gear re-releases that have been produced so far, claiming that they would skimp out on this one is idiotic.
I honestly don't know where you people are getting the idea that combining both discs is going to be some terribly laborious process that wouldn't be worth the extra time and money (both of which are minute to a large company, especially in the face of the potential profits from the 3-pack) as opposed to just releasing an incomplete package. It's not a pain in the ass. It's an extremely simple process. You literally move the data from one disc to another, and then code up new menus. Run it through QA and you're finished.
I don't want to get into too big of an argument, but most of the time data is arranged on disk in a certain way do reduce loading times. It's usually spread out across the entire disk. Switching to a different type of disk (DVD9) or filling the missing spots on the disk with the remaining data would actually be a pretty big task. If you want the original game to be unchanged, then normally you wouldn't modify how it is layed out on the disk.
I'm not saying that Konami won't do it, just that it will take a lot more effort to add the stuff to the first disk than to just re-press the original one (leaving the extras out).
You could try looking for the PC versions of MGS1 and 2 on ebay. Those ought to still be hanging around, and they were both the Substance and Subsistance versions.
Oh, I have them. It's just that playing Metal Gear on the PC just feels... wrong.
Well, that's the only real way I played them, so I guess I wouldn't know.
Actually wait, that's not true, I did play MGS1 on the PS1 before then. Can't say it made me feel weird playing the PC version, but I had my own keyboard mappings worked out that worked really well for me. About the only things they changed were some stuff in the psycho-mantis sequence which wouldn't have made sense in the context of playing it on a PC. I'm just glad they didn't make the game pretend to blue-screen or anything.
Never did get to play MGS3 as a result. Shame, I heard it was the best in the series to date.
I'm still holding out hope that they'll not only put the full second disc of Subsistence in there, online not working be damned, but also have MGS1 integral. Honestly though, I mostly wanna get it for Substance. That shit is impossible to find.
Maybe they'll even surprise us with the Document and the extra DVD that came with the super-special Subsistence?
Yeah, so I'm a deluded fool.
I will never understand why we didn't get the 20th Anniversary Collection. Metal Gear sells better in the States, so why the fuck didn't we get it!?
As for the extra stuff. . .again, I really don't care so long as it has the Persistence disc for MGS3, if only for MG1 and 2. Integral, The Document, and Existence would all be really awesome, but I really, really doubt it.
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Yeah, I know. It still boggles my mind, though.
At a guess, I think it's because they figure the Japanese hardcore market are more likely to purchase the really expensive boxsets like that, irrespective of how well regular editions sell elsewhere.
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Yeah, I know. It still boggles my mind, though.
At a guess, I think it's because they figure the Japanese hardcore market are more likely to purchase the really expensive boxsets like that, irrespective of how well regular editions sell elsewhere.
I guess so. But, look how many Americans bought the Limited and Legendary Editions of Halo. Hell, look at DVD sales and all the "Limited Editions" and Box Sets of DVDs they sell. And, Substance and Subsistence sold well here and they were re-releases.
To top it off, they're releasing this dumbed down "Essential Collection" anyways. Why not give us the whole shebang?
i was so get that box set if i didn't already own them all, i have mgs + special missions, sons of liberty (original) and Substance (with the document dvd) also have substance on the pc for some reason, snake eater (original) and the 3 dvd subsistence, as well as twin snakes. yes i know how retarded it is to own 2 and 3 different copies of the same games but hey, i am crazy.
this is shot of my collection so far that i did for another forum awhile back, figured i'ed share
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Yeah, I know. It still boggles my mind, though.
At a guess, I think it's because they figure the Japanese hardcore market are more likely to purchase the really expensive boxsets like that, irrespective of how well regular editions sell elsewhere.
I guess so. But, look how many Americans bought the Limited and Legendary Editions of Halo. Hell, look at DVD sales and all the "Limited Editions" and Box Sets of DVDs they sell. And, Substance and Subsistence sold well here and they were re-releases.
To top it off, they're releasing this dumbed down "Essential Collection" anyways. Why not give us the whole shebang?
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic's 10 year birthday. It was a world wide promotion.
Yeah, but they didn't release any massive box-sets like that, with every single game in.
Both Nintendo and Sega have done this for Mario and Sonic.
Huh, really?
Would you mind filling me in then, as I don't seem to recall anything like that...
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Fixed that shit for you.
EDIT: And I assure you, Sonic Jam has the same amount of heart, soul, and dedication as that MGS boxset has. Sonic team went out, added new moves to old games, wrote several history of sonic the hedgehog pages, gave each character a bio, and built a 3D virtual museum packed with lost videos and music.
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic's 10 year birthday. It was a world wide promotion.
Yeah, but they didn't release any massive box-sets like that, with every single game in.
Both Nintendo and Sega have done this for Mario and Sonic.
Huh, really?
Would you mind filling me in then, as I don't seem to recall anything like that...
Mario All-Stars + World
Sonic JAM
Fixed that shit for you.
EDIT: And I assure you, Sonic Jam has the same amount of heart, soul, and dedication as that MGS boxset has. Sonic team went out, added new moves to old games, wrote several history of sonic the hedgehog pages, gave each character a bio, and built a 3D virtual museum packed with lost videos and music.
Yeah, I own Sonic Jam, but it still feels off on the point I think we're making here, though.
I think that the point people were trying to make is that Konami's American division can't be bothered to manufacture the Anniversary Box-set (which is a very complicated package) thinking that not very many people would buy it, which is different to Sega producing a single disc.
When was the last time any publisher did something like that in the US? I can't think of anything remotely close to that besides Halo.
Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic's 10 year birthday. It was a world wide promotion.
Yeah, but they didn't release any massive box-sets like that, with every single game in.
Both Nintendo and Sega have done this for Mario and Sonic.
Huh, really?
Would you mind filling me in then, as I don't seem to recall anything like that...
Mario All-Stars + World
Sonic JAM
Fixed that shit for you.
EDIT: And I assure you, Sonic Jam has the same amount of heart, soul, and dedication as that MGS boxset has. Sonic team went out, added new moves to old games, wrote several history of sonic the hedgehog pages, gave each character a bio, and built a 3D virtual museum packed with lost videos and music.
Yeah, I own Sonic Jam, but it still feels off on the point I think we're making here, though.
I think that the point people were trying to make is that Konami's American division can't be bothered to manufacture the Anniversary Box-set (which is a very complicated package) thinking that not very many people would buy it, which is different to Sega producing a single disc.
EDITED for a little clarity.
Every game going out is difficult to put out. Sonic Jam was put out during a time when sega was massively scaling back the saturn and putting out copies of games was tough. It was a challenge just to get the games printed, let alone stocked. This is why there are so few copies of Sonic Jam, PDS, Shining Force III, etc.
Every game going out is difficult to put out. Sonic Jam was put out during a time when sega was massively scaling back the saturn and putting out copies of games was tough. It was a challenge just to get the games printed, let alone stocked. This is why there are so few copies of Sonic Jam, PDS, Shining Force III, etc.
*sigh*
So what?
That still has very little to do with the point we're making here. Are Konami/Kojima Productions in a slump at the moment?
No, they're not... They have the money to make the 20th Anniversary Box-set, and they have a lot of die-hard Metal gear collectors who would no doubt buy it. They just don't want to and are putting out this release instead. That's what we're complaining about.
I'm tempted to buy that Japanese MGS collection even though I don't think the games would play on my US PS3. Even if I did have something that allowed me to play imports, would I be correct in assuming that those games don't have the english voice acting?
I'm tempted to buy that Japanese MGS collection even though I don't think the games would play on my US PS3. Even if I did have something that allowed me to play imports, would I be correct in assuming that those games don't have the english voice acting?
I can't find information saying one way or another, but I very much doubt you will be able to find a copy to purchase even if you want to...
Even if it lacked the cool box, I think there would be a hell of a lot less bitching if the collection had just 3 more discs. VR Missions, Document of MGS2, and Subsistence disc 2. How hard would that have really been?
Wow, Konami advertised MGO totally wrong. I was under the impression it would be a separate release. Then they announced the starter pack being packed with MGS4, and so I thought it was just a few maps and whatever to get you to buy MGO later. Well, it seems according to this MGO is the starter pack + whatever expansions come out. Weird. That site also says we get 5 maps to begin with. Sounds cool.
I thought it was awesome when my Hot Fuzz collector's edition came in a case that unfolded like a policeman officer's notepad, I would probably do the same if a MGS collection came decked up like a cardboard box.
So I a while back I saw someone who had made a bunch of MGS LEGO models. But now what I want, nay, need, is someone who has a perfectly to-scale model of the Shadow Moses Island complex, where you can remove the roof to see all the action taking place inside.
I'm not super sure how they would handle the lower levels, but that's why I'm not the guy that needs to get this done.
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That's actually really awesome.
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The ones around here don't.
It takes more than that to kill Solid Snake.
You haven't attempted to sell it on eBay?
And then I look at this:
And I weep inside a little.
Maybe they'll even surprise us with the Document and the extra DVD that came with the super-special Subsistence?
Yeah, so I'm a deluded fool.
Oh, I have them. It's just that playing Metal Gear on the PC just feels... wrong. I wanna have a lean, sleek complete collection that can all be played on the PS3 (well, except for Portable Ops), is that so wrong?
I'm not saying that Konami won't do it, just that it will take a lot more effort to add the stuff to the first disk than to just re-press the original one (leaving the extras out).
Well, that's the only real way I played them, so I guess I wouldn't know.
Actually wait, that's not true, I did play MGS1 on the PS1 before then. Can't say it made me feel weird playing the PC version, but I had my own keyboard mappings worked out that worked really well for me. About the only things they changed were some stuff in the psycho-mantis sequence which wouldn't have made sense in the context of playing it on a PC. I'm just glad they didn't make the game pretend to blue-screen or anything.
Never did get to play MGS3 as a result. Shame, I heard it was the best in the series to date.
I will never understand why we didn't get the 20th Anniversary Collection. Metal Gear sells better in the States, so why the fuck didn't we get it!?
As for the extra stuff. . .again, I really don't care so long as it has the Persistence disc for MGS3, if only for MG1 and 2. Integral, The Document, and Existence would all be really awesome, but I really, really doubt it.
I need this in my life.
Yeah, I know. It still boggles my mind, though.
At a guess, I think it's because they figure the Japanese hardcore market are more likely to purchase the really expensive boxsets like that, irrespective of how well regular editions sell elsewhere.
IIRC Starcraft had a ridiculous one with tshirts inside signed by some popular professional gamer dude to commemorate 10th anniversary.
Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic's 10 year birthday. It was a world wide promotion.
I guess so. But, look how many Americans bought the Limited and Legendary Editions of Halo. Hell, look at DVD sales and all the "Limited Editions" and Box Sets of DVDs they sell. And, Substance and Subsistence sold well here and they were re-releases.
To top it off, they're releasing this dumbed down "Essential Collection" anyways. Why not give us the whole shebang?
this is shot of my collection so far that i did for another forum awhile back, figured i'ed share
Bigger profit margin for less work is my guess.
Yeah, but they didn't release any massive box-sets like that, with every single game in.
Both Nintendo and Sega have done this for Mario and Sonic.
Huh, really?
Would you mind filling me in then, as I don't seem to recall anything like that...
Mario All-Stars + World
Sonic Mega Collection
I'll give you Mario All Stars. However, Sonic Mega Collection is not a "massive box-set".
It's a different situation here.
By box set, do you mean putting each game on it's own disc, to somehow make it feel more "boxy"?
Fixed that shit for you.
EDIT: And I assure you, Sonic Jam has the same amount of heart, soul, and dedication as that MGS boxset has. Sonic team went out, added new moves to old games, wrote several history of sonic the hedgehog pages, gave each character a bio, and built a 3D virtual museum packed with lost videos and music.
Yeah, I own Sonic Jam, but it still feels off on the point I think we're making here, though.
I think that the point people were trying to make is that Konami's American division can't be bothered to manufacture the Anniversary Box-set (which is a very complicated package) thinking that not very many people would buy it, which is different to Sega producing a single disc.
EDITED for a little clarity.
Every game going out is difficult to put out. Sonic Jam was put out during a time when sega was massively scaling back the saturn and putting out copies of games was tough. It was a challenge just to get the games printed, let alone stocked. This is why there are so few copies of Sonic Jam, PDS, Shining Force III, etc.
*sigh*
So what?
That still has very little to do with the point we're making here. Are Konami/Kojima Productions in a slump at the moment?
No, they're not... They have the money to make the 20th Anniversary Box-set, and they have a lot of die-hard Metal gear collectors who would no doubt buy it. They just don't want to and are putting out this release instead. That's what we're complaining about.
I can't find information saying one way or another, but I very much doubt you will be able to find a copy to purchase even if you want to...
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I... oh.
Is that seriously what it looks like?
Or is it just a pun on "Orange Box," or what.
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I thought it was awesome when my Hot Fuzz collector's edition came in a case that unfolded like a policeman officer's notepad, I would probably do the same if a MGS collection came decked up like a cardboard box.
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I'm not super sure how they would handle the lower levels, but that's why I'm not the guy that needs to get this done.
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