On another note, I think I am going to turn my Bear into an alchemist. She's already an herbalist, and skinning, while extra money, is not as worthwhile as having poootioooons and happy rocks.
I'm considering the same. My droodface is miner/herbalist and was mostly used as a farming character, but now that I play him more I'm considering picking up a crafting profession instead. Either drop herbalism and go JC, or drop mining and go alchemist. Supporting yourself with potions is nice.
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Flametongue Totem damage effects now also reduce healing done to the target by 50% and lasts 5 seconds.
If they can't accomplish that, they shouldn't be raiding. At all.
I honestly think Blizzard just wants everybody everywhere to raid. I don't really think it's a question of "but these people will never get a chance to see content!!!!"; it's that people want to hit 70 and have the entire game handed to them on a platter without having to make the slightest effort. And Blizzard wants to give that to them.
I wonder if they'll be nerfing Kara to accommodate the people that couldn't complete normal Shadow Labs.
It's been a full year and you are all up in arms?
I honestly can't believe how big of deal is making of these Kara nerfs. These nerfs help people with alts more than they help "random scrub X" Taking this all waaaay too seriously.
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edited February 2008
Oh, and apparently a company has come out with a keyboard designed specifically for mages:
If they can't accomplish that, they shouldn't be raiding. At all.
I honestly think Blizzard just wants everybody everywhere to raid. I don't really think it's a question of "but these people will never get a chance to see content!!!!"; it's that people want to hit 70 and have the entire game handed to them on a platter without having to make the slightest effort. And Blizzard wants to give that to them.
I wonder if they'll be nerfing Kara to accommodate the people that couldn't complete normal Shadow Labs.
It's been a full year and you are all up in arms?
I honestly can't believe how big of deal is making of these Kara nerfs. These nerfs help people with alts more than they help "random scrub X" Taking this all waaaay too seriously.
Flametongue Totem damage effects now also reduce healing done to the target by 50% and lasts 5 seconds.
Jesus.
BGs are going to be awful for healers.
Actually, I don't imagine it'll be much worse than it already is, considering there's already at least two MS Warriors in any given match. If I already have MS on me constantly, some Shaman hitting me with Flametongue won't matter much.
But it would also be nice if attunements counted for your whole account, so you don't have to get every alt attuned. Wasn't this brought up recently as a possibility by someone at Blizzard?
It has been, and they're apparently looking at account and guild attunements for WOTLK.
If anything, they should get rid of the stupid attunement for Old Hillsbrad. Is following that stupid NPC really necessary? Not to mention, if someone decides to gank you while following them around, you have to sit around for 10 minutes before you can start it again.
I think it's approximately 6 minutes long (without gankage), which means that... I've spent an hour of my life following those bitches around, and you can't even /follow npcs! (one of many things I miss about CoH, you can /follow ANYTHING)
After this post you WILL hate me. Its not an escort quest. You can just sit at the quest giver and wait them out.
After this post you WILL hate me. Its not an escort quest. You can just sit at the quest giver and wait them out.
Well there you go. After trying the same and failing on the Shattrath tour, I was never game to try.
During BC beta I failed that quest, but for some reason every time I came back to Shattrath Khadgar's servant would appear and follow me around. It was pretty awesome.
If they can't accomplish that, they shouldn't be raiding. At all.
I honestly think Blizzard just wants everybody everywhere to raid. I don't really think it's a question of "but these people will never get a chance to see content!!!!"; it's that people want to hit 70 and have the entire game handed to them on a platter without having to make the slightest effort. And Blizzard wants to give that to them.
I wonder if they'll be nerfing Kara to accommodate the people that couldn't complete normal Shadow Labs.
It's been a full year and you are all up in arms?
I honestly can't believe how big of deal is making of these Kara nerfs. These nerfs help people with alts more than they help "random scrub X" Taking this all waaaay too seriously.
I don't think anyone is up in arms over it. Even my 90% comment was a joke. I can't imagine that the dropping of the attunement will have any effect other then just getting alts into Kara. It's not a hard questline and I can't imagine someone who's been 70 very long not having it.
What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
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What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
It could also be an issue with how they did the flagging for it in the database. It could be because it's tied to an object on the character rather then just a flag like MC. So doing an account wide check with the object would require a database scan of each character rather then having a field like "IsAccountFlagged". One would be a much, much greater strain on the database servers. It doesn't prevent them from fixing this in WotK at all.
What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
It could also be an issue with how they did the flagging for it in the database. It could be because it's tied to an object on the character rather then just a flag like MC. So doing an account wide check with the object would require a database scan of each character rather then having a field like "IsAccountFlagged". One would be a much, much greater strain on the database servers. It doesn't prevent them from fixing this in WotK at all.
Well considering it's gonna flag your account for "Death Knight", I imagine it's a simple issue to replace the word "Death Knight" with "Karazhan" or "Molten Core" or whatever.
What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
It could also be an issue with how they did the flagging for it in the database. It could be because it's tied to an object on the character rather then just a flag like MC. So doing an account wide check with the object would require a database scan of each character rather then having a field like "IsAccountFlagged". One would be a much, much greater strain on the database servers. It doesn't prevent them from fixing this in WotK at all.
Well considering it's gonna flag your account for "Death Knight", I imagine it's a simple issue to replace the word "Death Knight" with "Karazhan" or "Molten Core" or whatever.
And also it already flagged the account for "TBC" capable... I tried going thru the Dark Portal the day before I got the xpac... didn't work...
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What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
What I find disturbing is that one of the Devs (Eyonix, I think) made a statement on the WoWhineplay boards to the effect of, "We'd like to have accountwide/serverwide attunements, if we could have we wouldn't have dropped the heroic key rep to honored." So they're talking like they tried and couldn't do it.
It could also be an issue with how they did the flagging for it in the database. It could be because it's tied to an object on the character rather then just a flag like MC. So doing an account wide check with the object would require a database scan of each character ratherthen having a field like "IsAccountFlagged". One would be a much, much greater strain on the database servers. It doesn't prevent them from fixing this in WotK at all.
Well considering it's gonna flag your account for "Death Knight", I imagine it's a simple issue to replace the word "Death Knight" with "Karazhan" or "Molten Core" or whatever.
Right but it all depends on how they do the check. For example, if your looking for an object on a character it's not a global flag. So then you have to check every character for it. It's a few more queries. The only big headache is updating the flag across an account. It's not a huge deal and doesn't require changing the database structure (the mechanism for this already has to exist because of the pets that are tied to an account) but it could prevent going back and changing the existing attunements.
Honestly the Kara attunement complaining is mostly (in my experience) coming from people on their second and third alts who just want to start soaking up badges and epics in farmazhan as soon as they can.
Which is just fine. I do it too, but from gameplay standpoint, there isn't a great reason to remove that attunement as a barrier to entering content.
I think they'd have solved a lot of their attunement issues by leaving the attunement scrolls in the game. That was a good idea, and I'm not really sure why it was removed.
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Honestly the Kara attunement complaining is mostly (in my experience) coming from people on their second and third alts who just want to start soaking up badges and epics in farmazhan as soon as they can.
Which is just fine. I do it too, but from gameplay standpoint, there isn't a great reason to remove that attunement as a barrier to entering content.
I think they'd have solved a lot of their attunement issues by leaving the attunement scrolls in the game. That was a good idea, and I'm not really sure why it was removed.
The reason to remove it is because it's not an effective barrier any more. The percentage of mains that are keyed for Kara is fairly high I'd guess. So the only thing it's stopping is alts, and by the time you're at the point of alts farming Kara, it's not hard to get attuned anyway.
And I hate attunements with a passion. Having had to deal with a healer shortage because of the Hyjal/BT attunement, it sucked. And the pool of keyed replacements is small. So either you have to be a dick and cherry pick out of another guild, or you have to go back to TK/SSC and key people.
With any kind of barrier, you have to judge the effectiveness of how well it keeps people out versus how much difficulty it inflicts on you. If it's not balanced it's a huge PITA.
Honestly the Kara attunement complaining is mostly (in my experience) coming from people on their second and third alts who just want to start soaking up badges and epics in farmazhan as soon as they can.
Which is just fine. I do it too, but from gameplay standpoint, there isn't a great reason to remove that attunement as a barrier to entering content.
I think they'd have solved a lot of their attunement issues by leaving the attunement scrolls in the game. That was a good idea, and I'm not really sure why it was removed.
The reason to remove it is because it's not an effective barrier any more. The percentage of mains that are keyed for Kara is fairly high I'd guess. So the only thing it's stopping is alts, and by the time you're at the point of alts farming Kara, it's not hard to get attuned anyway.
And I hate attunements with a passion. Having had to deal with a healer shortage because of the Hyjal/BT attunement, it sucked. And the pool of keyed replacements is small. So either you have to be a dick and cherry pick out of another guild, or you have to go back to TK/SSC and key people.
With any kind of barrier, you have to judge the effectiveness of how well it keeps people out versus how much difficulty it inflicts on you. If it's not balanced it's a huge PITA.
I hate attumentments, I'm not really sure what the idea is, but I always thought that the requirement for entering dungeon/raid X should be the ability to actually kill crap and survive there.
I'm not sure what clearing shadow labs, arcatraz, and black morass is supposed to prove exactly when any fresh 70 can clear those dungeons with a decent group and still not be anywhere near being appropriately geared for kara (or the converse, someone can quite easilly get kara geared by doing quests and pvp without ever setting foot in any of those instances).
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I'm considering the same. My droodface is miner/herbalist and was mostly used as a farming character, but now that I play him more I'm considering picking up a crafting profession instead. Either drop herbalism and go JC, or drop mining and go alchemist. Supporting yourself with potions is nice.
Jesus.
BGs are going to be awful for healers.
oh shit
getting all ready for the expansion I see
next will be
*All players will get free epics in the mail.
All I ever do is battlegrounds anyway, might as well.
Only downside being that season 4 is fuckugly compared to 3. Why Blizzard? Why?
EDIT: And WTF? Moroes is one of the easiest bosses in Kara. Why not a Netherspite or Shade of Aran nerf?
Moroes is easier than most heroic bosses.
It's been a full year and you are all up in arms?
I honestly can't believe how big of deal is making of these Kara nerfs. These nerfs help people with alts more than they help "random scrub X" Taking this all waaaay too seriously.
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I'm not upset at all. Just commenting.
My joke has gone awry.
"why am I MS'd?"
oh yeah dude there's a paladin in the zone
Actually, I don't imagine it'll be much worse than it already is, considering there's already at least two MS Warriors in any given match. If I already have MS on me constantly, some Shaman hitting me with Flametongue won't matter much.
After this post you WILL hate me. Its not an escort quest. You can just sit at the quest giver and wait them out.
Because if you do, then I really will be mad. Or sad. Or maybe cry and yell at the same time. I don't know.
Well there you go. After trying the same and failing on the Shattrath tour, I was never game to try.
During BC beta I failed that quest, but for some reason every time I came back to Shattrath Khadgar's servant would appear and follow me around. It was pretty awesome.
It'd be nice seeing players land in Gadgetzan and just melt "SHIT SHIT I FORGOT TO TURN OFF THE AURA"
I don't think anyone is up in arms over it. Even my 90% comment was a joke. I can't imagine that the dropping of the attunement will have any effect other then just getting alts into Kara. It's not a hard questline and I can't imagine someone who's been 70 very long not having it.
It could also be an issue with how they did the flagging for it in the database. It could be because it's tied to an object on the character rather then just a flag like MC. So doing an account wide check with the object would require a database scan of each character rather then having a field like "IsAccountFlagged". One would be a much, much greater strain on the database servers. It doesn't prevent them from fixing this in WotK at all.
Well considering it's gonna flag your account for "Death Knight", I imagine it's a simple issue to replace the word "Death Knight" with "Karazhan" or "Molten Core" or whatever.
And also it already flagged the account for "TBC" capable... I tried going thru the Dark Portal the day before I got the xpac... didn't work...
Eyonix is a Community Manager not a Dev.
Right but it all depends on how they do the check. For example, if your looking for an object on a character it's not a global flag. So then you have to check every character for it. It's a few more queries. The only big headache is updating the flag across an account. It's not a huge deal and doesn't require changing the database structure (the mechanism for this already has to exist because of the pets that are tied to an account) but it could prevent going back and changing the existing attunements.
Which is just fine. I do it too, but from gameplay standpoint, there isn't a great reason to remove that attunement as a barrier to entering content.
I think they'd have solved a lot of their attunement issues by leaving the attunement scrolls in the game. That was a good idea, and I'm not really sure why it was removed.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
The reason to remove it is because it's not an effective barrier any more. The percentage of mains that are keyed for Kara is fairly high I'd guess. So the only thing it's stopping is alts, and by the time you're at the point of alts farming Kara, it's not hard to get attuned anyway.
And I hate attunements with a passion. Having had to deal with a healer shortage because of the Hyjal/BT attunement, it sucked. And the pool of keyed replacements is small. So either you have to be a dick and cherry pick out of another guild, or you have to go back to TK/SSC and key people.
With any kind of barrier, you have to judge the effectiveness of how well it keeps people out versus how much difficulty it inflicts on you. If it's not balanced it's a huge PITA.
man, that was nowhere near as expensive as eng
now to wait until nethers are BoE nom nom nom
Except, that would be an exaggeration. Blessings, judgements, holy shock, trinkets, potions?
It's getting a sizeable buff next patch.
I should probably keep up with the patch notes.
That's cool though, glad it's not just uh, useless.
I hate attumentments, I'm not really sure what the idea is, but I always thought that the requirement for entering dungeon/raid X should be the ability to actually kill crap and survive there.
I'm not sure what clearing shadow labs, arcatraz, and black morass is supposed to prove exactly when any fresh 70 can clear those dungeons with a decent group and still not be anywhere near being appropriately geared for kara (or the converse, someone can quite easilly get kara geared by doing quests and pvp without ever setting foot in any of those instances).