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Obama = Lawrence Lessig -> US Secretary of Technology?

Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Meh, I never come in D&D, so please forgive any broken social conventions. I think I should be ok, but you know PA: Leave one forum, step in another, and the rules completely change. On with it:

I just saw this on Reddit:
http://venturebeat.com/2007/11/13/exclusive-barack-obama-to-name-a-chief-technology-officer/?view=print
And confirmed here:
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-11-19-n10.html

That when Obama spoke at Google a while back, he announced that if elected, he would create a new top-level position and office to explore and ensure that new technologies are understood and applied properly.

And then it hit me. Lawrence Lessig had endorsed Obama a while back. And then it hit me again, harder. Something else I had read earlier this week. Lessig recently announced the creation of a congressional exploratory committee to decide if he will run for congress to fill the San Mateo / San Francisco CA-12 seat. Essentially, he's announced that he's open game for politics.

It gets better. He not only endorsed Obama as mentioned above, not only is game for a political career, but recently helped Obama draft his technology policy, as well. Wait, it gets better. Not only that, but apparently? The two were colleagues at the University of Chicago Law. They know each other well.

So the cogs are turning, and I have to conclude: It's a serious possibility. In fact, I'm now thinking Obama might have decided this with Lessig specifically in mind.

What do you think, D&D? Am I stretching? Or does this totally make too much sense you need new pants?

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If this is wild speculation then call me "Shovel," cause I'm diggin' it.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Lessig is considering a run for the U.S. Senate, so i don't think this would be likely.


    that being said, with an Obama presidency (KNOCK ON FUCKING WOOD), Lessig would be an ideal ally for him on technology/computing initiatives in the Senate.

    edit: Will's right, it's the House, not the Senate. he'd be running for the seat Tom Lantos held before he passed away.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2008
    Lessig has opened up an exploratory committee to run for congress to replace the retiring Dem in his district.

    edit: ugh beated by Flip. Though I'm pretty sure it's the house and not the senate.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Lessig is considering a run for the U.S. Senate, so i don't think this would be likely.

    Congress, actually, and I mentioned that in the OP: All it means to me, and should mean to you, is that he's up for being a politician. That's the important thing here. It does NOT mean he is not willing to be a CTO for the President.

    Running for Congress is just hedging his bets, so to speak. See yourself as theoretical Lessig: You want in to politics. The CTO job with Obama would be nice, but it's all still theoretical at this point, he still has to beat Hillary, let alone Mccain. You can't wait to see if Obama will get elected or not and want you as his CTO, the local election won't wait for you. So you have to act now.

    Simple risk-minimization. You try to put your foot in the door as far as possible for BOTH jobs. If one doesn't pan out, that's ok, because you have the other.

    If you get elected, and Obama loses, that's ok, you still got your foot into politics, you're a congressman.
    If Obama gets elected, and wants you as CTO, it's not a problem. You quit your congress position. People have done it before. Ron Paul is a congressman right now. Mccain, Hillary, and Obama are Senators, and would all have to quit their jobs if elected. People move up when a better position appears all the time.

    When you apply for jobs, do you hand in one resume at a time, and wait to see if each one results in an interview/job before handing in another resume? Of course not, you exploit as many opportunities as possible, before the door closes for any.

    All the importance of this signal here is that Lessig has said that he is interested in politics. That's all it means.

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    edited February 2008
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    Lessig recently announced the creation of a congressional exploratory committee to decide if he will run for congress to fill the San Mateo / San Francisco CA-12 seat. Essentially, he's announced that he's open game for politics.

    That's my district. I would volunteer for that man's campaign. There are very few people I'd say that about.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I have one of Lessig's books. Very nice.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    So wait, is this bad news or good news...neutral news?

    I skimmed over Obama's plans and I am nodding in agreement and I wish /my/ government would do the same.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Lessig is the author of Free Culture. This is basically good news if shit like DRM pisses you off. If you're Pro-Creative Commons, you basically root for this guy.

    Subtlety and nuance of politics be damned.

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Aldo wrote: »
    So wait, is this bad news or good news...neutral news?

    I skimmed over Obama's plans and I am nodding in agreement and I wish /my/ government would do the same.

    Assuming you're like pretty much everyone else on these forums: very, very good.

    Stanford Law professor, the founder of Creative Commons, board member of the EFF and probably the world's leading and foremost proponent of the copyright reform and "free culture" movements ('knowledge is free', the free software movement).

    He understands DRM, copyright law and it's failings in the new age, the free software movement, and technology in general on both the political and technical levels probably better than anyone in the world.

    As JamesKeenan basically said, with revision: If you're pro- internet culture at all, you want to root for this guy like hell.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Okay, then it's Good News (tm).

    ...carry on.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited February 2008
    Holy shit. Talk about someone who understands technology. Obama! Dooooo it! He's already such a huge supporter of Net Neutrality.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Good news or BEST news?

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    About the only thing I'd be more down with is if we reverted all the Homeland Security stuff back to whatever it was pre-Bush, or merge it with Defense, and then did this. Cabinet's getting a bit big.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    In a theoretical administration headed by a constitutional law scholar, a copyright law scholar is a perfect fit.

    One of the best things about an Obama presidency, you know that every position would be filled with the people who have the most knowledge in their respective fields, not cronies.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    In a theoretical administration headed by a constitutional law scholar, a copyright law scholar is a perfect fit.

    One of the best things about an Obama presidency, you hope that every position would be filled with the people who have the most knowledge in their respective fields, not cronies.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    In a theoretical administration headed by a constitutional law scholar, a copyright law scholar is a perfect fit.

    One of the best things about an Obama presidency, you hope that every position would be filled with the people who have the most knowledge in their respective fields, not cronies.

    Bolded for not my word. Yeah. I'm not big on this whole "fixed" internet phoenominon.

    Anyway, Obama has no cronies that I know of, given that he's a junior Senator and before that he was a state legislator. Okay, fine, he has campaign staff, but I think the majority of them have displayed quite a bit of organizational competance and would be fine public servants. I don't see him making his event volunteer wrangler the head of FEMA, though.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I believe that Lessig understands technology better than a lot of people, but do we really want the first Secretary of Technology to be a lawyer? He doesn't seem to have any formal training or background in technology, science, or engineering. None of his degrees are in computer science or any kind of engineering (they're in Economics, Management, Philosophy, and Law). He has never practiced in any profession other than law and teaching, as far as I can tell. Would it be logical to appoint a computer science professor who reads a lot about the law to the Supreme Court?

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    I believe that Lessig understands technology better than a lot of people, but do we really want the first Secretary of Technology to be a lawyer? He doesn't seem to have any formal training or background in technology, science, or engineering. None of his degrees are in computer science or any kind of engineering (they're in Economics, Management, Philosophy, and Law). He has never practiced in any profession other than law and teaching, as far as I can tell. Would it be logical to appoint a computer science professor who reads a lot about the law to the Supreme Court?
    That's not a good analogy. A Secretary of Technology will not do the tech work himself, a member of the Supreme Court is supposed to do the judging himself. You're not calling the CEO of McDonalds a bad CEO because he can't flip hamburgers like a pro either. That's not his job, his job is to lead the operation, not to do it himself.

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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    I believe that Lessig understands technology better than a lot of people, but do we really want the first Secretary of Technology to be a lawyer? He doesn't seem to have any formal training or background in technology, science, or engineering. None of his degrees are in computer science or any kind of engineering (they're in Economics, Management, Philosophy, and Law). He has never practiced in any profession other than law and teaching, as far as I can tell. Would it be logical to appoint a computer science professor who reads a lot about the law to the Supreme Court?

    Understanding technology isn't really relevant. Understanding the impact of technology is relevant.


    I don't really if the Tech Secretary can write "hello world," or if he understands the nuances of the BitTorrent protocol. I do care if the Tech Secretary realizes how BitTorrent's distribution method is effecting our country's bandwidth utilization and what some internet providers are trying to do to hamstring America's data distribution.


    Depending on your opinion of the free software movement, Lessig may very well be the most qualified person on the planet in this regard.

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