I'd say it depends on what type of Pokemon you're trying to level. If it's electric, nothing beats Fisherman Alec on Rt 222. After a couple of Vs. Seeker battles, he'll have 2 Gyarados at level 53. You can one-shot them with any relatively powerful electric attack, and they give good experience (and attack EVs too.) For Grass or Water, levelling in caves is usually great. I prefer Iron Island myself, because there's tons of Graveler and not too many Zubat. For Fire, there's not really many good spots pre-E4 (there's just too many water pokes) but when you beat the E4 and unlock the National Dex you can go to Rt 229, where there's literally nothing but Grass and Bug pokes.
Pre-E4, the only two fire Pokemon you're likely to have are Infernape (who can fight through Iron Island not too badly, I find) and Rapidash, who just has to level itself the hard way.
I am really excited, because i one shotted Flint's Rapidash and Infernape after taking a Flare Blitz from both and still having over half health. One was even a critical hit. Reli was only level 53 then.
I decided to work some more on my Pokedex, and I have a quick question.
re: Nidoran male and female- if I stuck a male Nidoran/Nidoking in the breeding center with a Ditto, would there be any chance at all of there being a Nidoran female from the union? It turns out apparently, while I can supposedly find Nidoran females in the wild using my Pokeradar, I only have about a 2% chance maximum of locating them. And I'm not having any luck with that so far, though I can chain male Nidoran quite easily now.
Er, make that two questions- where's the move deleter in Emerald? There's a rather nice Wailord left on the cart that I would prefer not to erase from existence when I restart it, but since it knows Dive and Waterfall I can't migrate it.
NidoKing/Queen can't breed at all for some bizarre reason. In fact, only Nidoran M/F are able to breed. The gender of the hatched nido can be male or female, and that of course determines it's evolutions.
I can give you a Nidoran M/F if you need one.
Emerald Move Deleter is in Lilycove.
Edit- I'm slightly incorrect. Nidoqueen and Nidorina are unable to breed, but Nidoran F and all the males are in the Monster/Field egg group. It's probably been like that since G/S and I don't think it has ever made sense.
So to answer your question, yeah just throw the King in there with ditto and you'll have a 50% chance of getting a Nidoran M or F.
Huh. I put a Nidoking and a ditto in daycare and they did (eventually) produce some eggs.. but all were nidoran male. No idea if I was just having bad luck with the random gender generator or what. Plus from the looks of things, Nidoran males can have egg moves, which would not at all be possible if they weren't able to be bred from Nidoran females. Just not sure if it works in reverse.
You don't need a Female for egg moves, Tyrogue and Tauros have egg moves.
I'm starting to remember how annoying it was to get my Nidoqueen. The egg needed to have the right nature, the right ability, the right gender, and good IVs. I was going to breed a new Venomoth but when I realized I would need the Nature, Ability and IVs I just gave up.
You don't need a Female for egg moves, Tyrogue and Tauros have egg moves.
I'm starting to remember how annoying it was to get my Nidoqueen. The egg needed to have the right nature, the right ability, the right gender, and good IVs. I was going to breed a new Venomoth but when I realized I would need the Nature, Ability and IVs I just gave up.
Tyrogue's egg moves are just different moves from its three evolutions though (Hitmonchan/lee/top). And Tauros doesn't have any egg moves, just move tutor things, as far as I'm aware.
Pearl had the advantage of having a Mecha-Godzilla on the cover, rather than whatever the heck Dialga is. Plus when it first came out, having Pearl meant I could get things on the GTS easier since less people had access to Mismagius, Glameow, and the other Pearl exclusives.
You're welcome, and your idea was better so the confusion was my fault really. I forgot that you would have to trade it again to evolve it and I'm used to trading just to give items away.
I hope you'll have a Battle Ready team set up soon. When you were still playing you were a tough trainer and I was inexperienced, but now I am stronger and you are out of practice.
I look forward to kicking your ass.
You're welcome, and your idea was better so the confusion was my fault really. I forgot that you would have to trade it again to evolve it and I'm used to trading just to give items away.
I hope you'll have a Battle Ready team set up soon. When you were still playing you were a tough trainer and I was inexperienced, but now I am stronger and you are out of practice.
I look forward to kicking your ass.
you've got a team that's pretty similar to my old team, too, if your sig is any indication
So, I've caught over 2 full boxes of Abras and Kadabras trying to get some with good natures for synchronize. I've found a few timids, bolds, and modests, but out of dozens I haven't found a single one that's adamant or jolly, let alone one with one of those natures + synchronize. Are certain natures more common on certain species, or is it purely random? Btw, say I wanted to have an Allakazam on my team later, would their be any point in keeping the massive amount of non-synchronize Abras/Kadabras for breeding/IV purposes? If there is, what would be a good way to screen a large amount of pokes for good IVs?
I'm trying to figure out how to breed Slack Off onto a Hippowdon. Anyone know how I'm supposed to find that? I can't find a pokemon that learns it that's in the same egg group. I know it can be done, though, because Smogon says so.
EDIT: Blender, the best way to check a large number of Pokes for IVs is via what's called "IV Battling." Basically, you find someone else who also needs to check a bunch of poke IVs, get into a level 100 battle with them, and check all the stats of your pokes at level 100. Just plug them into an IV calculator and you should see what IVs you've got. Aside from that, I just use the day care to level them up to around 15-20 without using them in any battles. That'll give you an approximate IV level, though you'll have to level them up a lot more if you want to know exactly what IVs they have.
Huh. I put a Nidoking and a ditto in daycare and they did (eventually) produce some eggs.. but all were nidoran male. No idea if I was just having bad luck with the random gender generator or what. Plus from the looks of things, Nidoran males can have egg moves, which would not at all be possible if they weren't able to be bred from Nidoran females. Just not sure if it works in reverse.
All this for three Pokedex entries.
You cannot get a female Nidoran from breeding Nidoking and Ditto. The two genders of Nidoran are considered separate species as dingus said. You will never get a female Nidoran from that breeding pair.
I'm trying to figure out how to breed Slack Off onto a Hippowdon. Anyone know how I'm supposed to find that? I can't find a pokemon that learns it that's in the same egg group. I know it can be done, though, because Smogon says so.
EDIT: Blender, the best way to check a large number of Pokes for IVs is via what's called "IV Battling." Basically, you find someone else who also needs to check a bunch of poke IVs, get into a level 100 battle with them, and check all the stats of your pokes at level 100. Just plug them into an IV calculator and you should see what IVs you've got. Aside from that, I just use the day care to level them up to around 15-20 without using them in any battles. That'll give you an approximate IV level, though you'll have to level them up a lot more if you want to know exactly what IVs they have.
Serebii.net has a feature where you can check the potential parents for a certain egg move. Just go to Hippowdon's page, scroll to the egg moves section and click Details at the top of it. It should then show each egg move with a list of compatible parents that learn the move by leveling and breeding.
edit: Also Blender, if you have an Syncing Poke with a nature that you need on something else, faint it, put it in the front of your party and go chain some Dittos. Synchronize makes wild Pokes have the nature of the Syncer 50% of the time. That'll give you easy Dittos of the nature you want. Then just give the Ditto an everstone and breed.
Huh. I put a Nidoking and a ditto in daycare and they did (eventually) produce some eggs.. but all were nidoran male. No idea if I was just having bad luck with the random gender generator or what. Plus from the looks of things, Nidoran males can have egg moves, which would not at all be possible if they weren't able to be bred from Nidoran females. Just not sure if it works in reverse.
All this for three Pokedex entries.
You cannot get a female Nidoran from breeding Nidoking and Ditto. The two genders of Nidoran are considered separate species as dingus said. You will never get a female Nidoran from that breeding pair.
I still don't get how Nidoran males get egg moves if they cannot result from having a Nidoran female as their parent. Breeding just doesn't work that way. If something is bred from a male and a female, it will be the female's species. The only exception is with Ditto, which can't pass egg moves.
Huh. I put a Nidoking and a ditto in daycare and they did (eventually) produce some eggs.. but all were nidoran male. No idea if I was just having bad luck with the random gender generator or what. Plus from the looks of things, Nidoran males can have egg moves, which would not at all be possible if they weren't able to be bred from Nidoran females. Just not sure if it works in reverse.
All this for three Pokedex entries.
You cannot get a female Nidoran from breeding Nidoking and Ditto. The two genders of Nidoran are considered separate species as dingus said. You will never get a female Nidoran from that breeding pair.
I still don't get how Nidoran males get egg moves if they cannot result from having a Nidoran female as their parent. Breeding just doesn't work that way. If something is bred from a male and a female, it will be the female's species. The only exception is with Ditto, which can't pass egg moves.
The parent would have to know the moves already through sketching.
Unless there was some change made to the games that I am completely unaware of, breeding a Nidoking will never ever produce a female Nidoran unless bred with one of them of course.
It doesn't seem like there is any way to get egg moves on one any other way.
But.. Nidorans don't learn sketch. Nothing does but Smeargle, and then we're back to the whole 'only males pass egg moves, and only females or Dittos pass species' thing. And if you mean 'They would just learn the same moves they'd get later in levels, only they'd have them at level one', those don't count as 'egg moves', and even sites like Psypokes have breeding chains suggested for various Nidoran male egg moves that aren't from Nidorans (though how you'd breed a male Rattata and a Nidoran male to get a Nidoran male I have no idea).
But.. Nidorans don't learn sketch. Nothing does but Smeargle, and then we're back to the whole 'only males pass egg moves, and only females or Dittos pass species' thing. And if you mean 'They would just learn the same moves they'd get later in levels, only they'd have them at level one', those don't count as 'egg moves', and even sites like Psypokes have breeding chains suggested for various Nidoran male egg moves that aren't from Nidorans (though how you'd breed a male Rattata and a Nidoran male to get a Nidoran male I have no idea).
Well.
I guess you're boned.
Someone go talk to Smogon.
edit: The thing about the sites with breeding chain suggestions is that they are automated. They pick out something that the Pokemon in question can breed with and also learns the move. They probably don't take into account stuff like this.
Also, I forgot how Sketch worked for a minute. Sorry!
edit: Also Blender, if you have an Syncing Poke with a nature that you need on something else, faint it, put it in the front of your party and go chain some Dittos. Synchronize makes wild Pokes have the nature of the Syncer 50% of the time. That'll give you easy Dittos of the nature you want. Then just give the Ditto an everstone and breed.
Right now I'm preparing to go after Dittos by catching syncing Pokes. The problem I'm running into is that I'm having trouble actually finding syncing pokes with the right natures. I've been going after Abras/Kadabras on Route 215. I've caught dozens but I've only gotten a few useful ones so far.
edit: Also Blender, if you have an Syncing Poke with a nature that you need on something else, faint it, put it in the front of your party and go chain some Dittos. Synchronize makes wild Pokes have the nature of the Syncer 50% of the time. That'll give you easy Dittos of the nature you want. Then just give the Ditto an everstone and breed.
Right now I'm preparing to go after Dittos by catching syncing Pokes. The problem I'm running into is that I'm having trouble actually finding syncing pokes with the right natures. I've been going after Abras/Kadabras on Route 215. I've caught dozens but I've only gotten a few useful ones so far.
Yeah, that's the tough part. They can't make everything easy, can they?
edit: Also Blender, if you have an Syncing Poke with a nature that you need on something else, faint it, put it in the front of your party and go chain some Dittos. Synchronize makes wild Pokes have the nature of the Syncer 50% of the time. That'll give you easy Dittos of the nature you want. Then just give the Ditto an everstone and breed.
Right now I'm preparing to go after Dittos by catching syncing Pokes. The problem I'm running into is that I'm having trouble actually finding syncing pokes with the right natures. I've been going after Abras/Kadabras on Route 215. I've caught dozens but I've only gotten a few useful ones so far.
Yeah, that's the tough part. They can't make everything easy, can they?
Hah, very true. I figured it would take awhile. Is there a better place than Route 215?
Why the fuck can I not buy Ethers and Elixirs in any stores? I need some fucking PP restoration dammit.
It would be awesome if you could buy those. While not as convenient, you could spend awhile and grow a shitload of Leppa Berries...10pp restored per berry.
Why the fuck can I not buy Ethers and Elixirs in any stores? I need some fucking PP restoration dammit.
It would be awesome if you could buy those. While not as convenient, you could spend awhile and grow a shitload of Leppa Berries...10pp restored per berry.
I have zero Leppa berries.
This is retarded. Waterfall and Rock Tomb barely have any PP at all. I run out so quick. I'm fighting the champion with Double Edge and Take Down on him. One level away from Rest. Then I can teach it Sleep Talk. Then more grinding to 78 for motherfucking Head Smash.
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I also have Avalanche and Grass Knot TMs that I'm not using.
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20 more!
I am really excited, because i one shotted Flint's Rapidash and Infernape after taking a Flare Blitz from both and still having over half health. One was even a critical hit. Reli was only level 53 then.
re: Nidoran male and female- if I stuck a male Nidoran/Nidoking in the breeding center with a Ditto, would there be any chance at all of there being a Nidoran female from the union? It turns out apparently, while I can supposedly find Nidoran females in the wild using my Pokeradar, I only have about a 2% chance maximum of locating them. And I'm not having any luck with that so far, though I can chain male Nidoran quite easily now.
Er, make that two questions- where's the move deleter in Emerald? There's a rather nice Wailord left on the cart that I would prefer not to erase from existence when I restart it, but since it knows Dive and Waterfall I can't migrate it.
(Nidoking is superior in every way anyway)
Miltank and Tauros pose a similar problem, with one being a 2% rate in diamond or pearl.
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I can give you a Nidoran M/F if you need one.
Emerald Move Deleter is in Lilycove.
Edit- I'm slightly incorrect. Nidoqueen and Nidorina are unable to breed, but Nidoran F and all the males are in the Monster/Field egg group. It's probably been like that since G/S and I don't think it has ever made sense.
So to answer your question, yeah just throw the King in there with ditto and you'll have a 50% chance of getting a Nidoran M or F.
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All this for three Pokedex entries.
alas, my impressive collection is not. curse my fickle taste in games!
there's a big huge list of stuff I need but I guess I can start simple
anybody got a spare metal coat for my onix? I want to rock a steelix for my story playthrough
I'm starting to remember how annoying it was to get my Nidoqueen. The egg needed to have the right nature, the right ability, the right gender, and good IVs. I was going to breed a new Venomoth but when I realized I would need the Nature, Ability and IVs I just gave up.
I can give you a Metal Coat Shoe.
You chose an odd time to come back to Pokémon, many people left it just last week.
NNID-InvisibleInk
If you need more stuff just PM me and I'll see what I can do.
yeah, Smash Bros. reignited the flame for me. I can only kick so much ass with Lucario before I have to do it for reelz.
my friend code is 2234 6927 2966
let me know when you're ready
That'll make things easier then.
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There are to many little details involved in breeding!
I'm ready to trade Shoe, I'll head online now.
NNID-InvisibleInk
sorry.
.... Well I have Metal Coats to spare so I guess i'll go do that.
So i'm giving Onix back to you and he'll evolve as soon as you get him, ok?
NNID-InvisibleInk
I assumed that's what we were doing, sorry.
I hope you'll have a Battle Ready team set up soon. When you were still playing you were a tough trainer and I was inexperienced, but now I am stronger and you are out of practice.
I look forward to kicking your ass.
NNID-InvisibleInk
you've got a team that's pretty similar to my old team, too, if your sig is any indication
you will likely beat me senseless
but I look forward to it
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EDIT: Blender, the best way to check a large number of Pokes for IVs is via what's called "IV Battling." Basically, you find someone else who also needs to check a bunch of poke IVs, get into a level 100 battle with them, and check all the stats of your pokes at level 100. Just plug them into an IV calculator and you should see what IVs you've got. Aside from that, I just use the day care to level them up to around 15-20 without using them in any battles. That'll give you an approximate IV level, though you'll have to level them up a lot more if you want to know exactly what IVs they have.
edit: Also Blender, if you have an Syncing Poke with a nature that you need on something else, faint it, put it in the front of your party and go chain some Dittos. Synchronize makes wild Pokes have the nature of the Syncer 50% of the time. That'll give you easy Dittos of the nature you want. Then just give the Ditto an everstone and breed.
I still don't get how Nidoran males get egg moves if they cannot result from having a Nidoran female as their parent. Breeding just doesn't work that way. If something is bred from a male and a female, it will be the female's species. The only exception is with Ditto, which can't pass egg moves.
Unless there was some change made to the games that I am completely unaware of, breeding a Nidoking will never ever produce a female Nidoran unless bred with one of them of course.
It doesn't seem like there is any way to get egg moves on one any other way.
I guess you're boned.
Someone go talk to Smogon.
edit: The thing about the sites with breeding chain suggestions is that they are automated. They pick out something that the Pokemon in question can breed with and also learns the move. They probably don't take into account stuff like this.
Also, I forgot how Sketch worked for a minute. Sorry!
Right now I'm preparing to go after Dittos by catching syncing Pokes. The problem I'm running into is that I'm having trouble actually finding syncing pokes with the right natures. I've been going after Abras/Kadabras on Route 215. I've caught dozens but I've only gotten a few useful ones so far.
Hah, very true. I figured it would take awhile. Is there a better place than Route 215?
It would be awesome if you could buy those. While not as convenient, you could spend awhile and grow a shitload of Leppa Berries...10pp restored per berry.
This is retarded. Waterfall and Rock Tomb barely have any PP at all. I run out so quick. I'm fighting the champion with Double Edge and Take Down on him. One level away from Rest. Then I can teach it Sleep Talk. Then more grinding to 78 for motherfucking Head Smash.