Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
They died as a result of the people running it, and not the forum in which they were based.
hmm... not really sure how valid that is. Honestly IRL many games petter out after a few sessions, unless you have people who are rather into it and not just passing through.
Both the battle forums, africa, the cape of good hope, the hidden D&D forum, the magic forum. uh.... hot topic forums. Bringing back linksville. CYOA, I think. derr... all on the top of my head
I'm not up for thinking hard right now, but we have had more than a few forums that did not take months to get off the ground. It really does not need to take a huge amont of time.
Granted all of those forums are pretty much short lived, and many had limited lifespans anyway.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited February 2006
CYOA was done improperly, IMO, and was doomed from the start.
Africa was meant to be temporary, as were the battle forums. Cape of good hope? Think that was a lot like bloody africa. I have no idea wtf the D&D or the magic forum were. Hot topic forums were made to be just that, hot topic forums. And the bloody matrix and LotR forums way outstayed their welcome.
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Pax was originaly a hot topic forum. IIRC, and now the Comunity Forums basicly server the same role. Sooner or people will get tired of them.
CYOA was missmanged and really too small a catagory. Even in the best of situations.
They threw the magic thing together so people would stop crapping up the various forums and the monkey den, IIRC.
Meh, I really don't get why you are so opposed to giving people what they want. What is the worst that happens? You mod a retard, he bans everyone, runs roughshod over the forum till an admin steps in. Or more likely the subforum just (metaphoricaly) crashes and burns and gets deleted.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited February 2006
Because I would post in this forum, Red, but I don't see the need for it. As such, I am neither for or against the creating of this forum. However, I don't want this to end up like the CYOA forum, thought up in an instance, and thrown together like a retard's mud pie. Can someone at least have the foresight to draft up a set of rules?
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The total time for all of this? Between 6 or 9 months, mabye more. See how long that took, the whole process of it? Getting a forum to pop out like this is unheard of, so have patience with your mods, dammit.
I understand, and I'm not trying to press for it right fuckin' now, damnit! I'm just sorta frustrated by people saying that the current set up is sufficient when, really, it isn't. It's like you're not listening, and I'm sure you can understand how irritating that is.
The tabletop industry is not the video game industry. New games are not released every week. Games are often not run every week. In the meantime, the G&T forum keeps spawning ten trillion threads about [wacky japanese game x] and "help me design a computer" and "You know that game that was awesome fifteen years ago?" This is not to say that such threads are bad! Hell, at the moment I'm checking the X-Com thread every single time I sit down at the computer. But the speed at which they are created makes talking about something less constant extremely difficult. Even the Warhammer thread - which has at least five "regulars," for lack of a better word, has started falling back to halfway down the second page every day. It's just a pain in the ass.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited February 2006
I just don't think people have used all their options, either because they haven't thought to or they are too blinded by their own biases to reach out and try.
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Because I would post in this forum, Red, but I don't see the need for it. As such, I am neither for or against the creating of this forum. However, I don't want this to end up like the CYOA forum, thought up in an instance, and thrown together like a retard's mud pie. Can someone at least have the foresight to draft up a set of rules?
steal the D&D boilerplate with the additions that GMs get to decide what happens in their threads. Being a douche in a running game thread is an offence.
you see any problems with that?
Someone does not want table talk, they say so in a thread. No way to prevent determined people, so why bother?
why crap it up with additional stuff? an info thread or 2 would be pretty helpful and if you are not going to add any new mods a thread where douchbaggery could be reported if it is a serious problem.
edit:like if it happens, it will have aspects of the various on topic forums. Keep the genral stuff so it is flexable. Lay down a few rules to the specifics of running a game. Help threads are for help. Art threads are for art and some critisim. debate threads are for debate. If replies are on topic, there is not a problem. If they are off topic there is already a rule against it.
Because I would post in this forum, Red, but I don't see the need for it. As such, I am neither for or against the creating of this forum. However, I don't want this to end up like the CYOA forum, thought up in an instance, and thrown together like a retard's mud pie. Can someone at least have the foresight to draft up a set of rules?
Yeah, for instance, someone mentioned in Vent that someone was running a Paranoia game, so I went looking:
The last post in the thread was all of two days ago, and it was on page four. The problem with using G&T for tabletop discussion, as everyone has said, is that the threads just drop off the page too damn fast. Has anyone considered the possibility that an entire forum for all games and all technology might be a little too "big tent" for a forum which is established around a comic which is pretty much entirely about games? As in, while a Tabletop Gaming subforum is a good idea, in and of itself, for all of you that say "that's covered by G&T," isn't there a possibility that G&T covers too much to be able to do it well? Maybe instead of those of us in favor of the forum saying why we need the new one, those of you against it can explain why G&T shouldn't have some of the excessive pressure taken off of it?
I think people are making problems out of nothing here. Overall, I can picture this succeeding fairly succintly. It should offer a place where alternative gaming threads can be sheltered and survive, and be nurtured into the full potential they don't always reach in G&T or SE++.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Because I would post in this forum, Red, but I don't see the need for it. As such, I am neither for or against the creating of this forum. However, I don't want this to end up like the CYOA forum, thought up in an instance, and thrown together like a retard's mud pie. Can someone at least have the foresight to draft up a set of rules?
Yeah, for instance, someone mentioned in Vent that someone was running a Paranoia game, so I went looking:
The last post in the thread was all of two days ago, and it was on page four. The problem with using G&T for tabletop discussion, as everyone has said, is that the threads just drop off the page too damn fast. Has anyone considered the possibility that an entire forum for all games and all technology might be a little too "big tent" for a forum which is established around a comic which is pretty much entirely about games? As in, while a Tabletop Gaming subforum is a good idea, in and of itself, for all of you that say "that's covered by G&T," isn't there a possibility that G&T covers too much to be able to do it well? Maybe instead of those of us in favor of the forum saying why we need the new one, those of you against it can explain why G&T shouldn't have some of the excessive pressure taken off of it?
Just an idea.
Have you tried running it in SE?
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The Paranoia thread's on the fourth page because it won't even start until next week. Since the players aren't supposed to know the rules, there can't be all that much discussion until then.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited February 2006
And Ori comes to the rescue with actual knowledge about what is going on.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
And Ori comes to the rescue with actual knowledge about what is going on.
I don't see how anything Ori said really affects the points I was making. Two days without activity relegates a thread to page four.
Anyhow, I was just like, over halfway done with a draft proposal for the rules, when someone hit the switch that controls the power to my computer, so I'm starting over now. Goddammit.
As for rules, here's a good place to start, minus Deni's post regarding logical fallacies, and modifying some of the things that reference D&D specifically.
Additional rules:
*Each game being run on the forums gets its own thread. Gamemasters are considered in control of those threads, and those not participating in the games shouldn't post in them without a damn good reason. Asshattery in the individual game threads will not be tolerated.
*If you want to run a game, describe it well. This does not mean "who wants to play DnD?" Your description should include:
*What game you are playing and what rules version you are using, e.g. ADnD 2nd Edition.
*The general scenario for the campaign, e.g. "this will be a Star Wars Dark Side campaign, where the characters will play evil Jedi in service to the Sith during the Knights of the Old Republic era."
*What style the campaign will be, e.g. pure role-playing, hack 'n' slash, mixed, diceless, low-power, high-power, etc.
*Any substantial deviations from the rules set you are using.
*How much experience and familiarity with the rules the players should/could have in order to play.
*Times you want to play (this can be specific, or a range, but you should probably at least eliminate the times you work/sleep).
*Anything specific software you plan on using in order to play the game, e.g. Ventrilo, IRC, OpenRPG, etc.
*Any specific to the game the players should know, e.g. using the point-buy system for attributes in DnD 3.5, limiting players to 20 points of disadvanatages in GURPS, etc.
This list is by no means exhaustive; you are encouraged to include more, but a first post for a game should contain at least the above.
*No discussion of illegally download intellectual property. Or ROMs, Warez, etc., just like on any other part of the forum.
I can't think of anything off the top of my head that we should include regarding other types of threads specific to the forum; "stay on-topic" from the rules post seems to pretty much cover that.
Btw, I am by no means proposing this as a final draft. This is just what I thought of off the top of my head. Take it as you will.
I'd like to add to the rules drafting discussion. I believe we need rules pertaining to the protection of intellectual property, in the same way G&T has it's stance on Warez and roms a TT forum must take a stance on the protection of IP. TT companies tend to get pissed off when you compromise that kind of stuff.
The TT threads we have had in G&T have generally been good with this but it's one of those things that any possible subforum must have put forth in the rules and monitored strictly by those put in charge (Noone wants to be sued after all)
Talking about the fine points of ROMs, warez, or other bits of piracy
This is not an arguable point; this rule comes from those who make the forums possible. It will be enforced, and it is not a point on which we have the luxury of being flexible. Keep in mind that this is not a ban on discussing the ethics of piracy or the economic forces at play.
it takes a lot to get rid of a forum though. Like, you'll get all sorts of people bitching and delaying and next thing you know, the last post in a froum was months ago.
The forum you have selected does not exist
You are not special enough. Go and give yourself rights to the magic forum.
The last post was 6 months ago.
Oh, that one.
Yeah.
That was all very promising until I totally lost interest in posting here at all.
Now that I have rediscovered my inner troll however I enjoy foruming again, but have little interest in trying to revive shit that I barely even recall.
Meaning that really, we could just change the name and permissions on that forum and add a rules charter and saddle some kind of ho-mo-sexual with moderating it, and then run for the hills.
I was the only guy to finish a color anyway.
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We fall but our souls are flying
I would be extremely sad if the entire idea of mechanics-based character optimization were removed entirely, as I find it both interesting and fun. Some people like certain aspects of games, and to invalidate them because you disagree with what they find fun is enormously foolish. Similarly, if you are looking for roleplaying tips or ways to flesh out a character's backstory, you shouldn't be browbeaten by the optimizers. Different strokes for different folks, as it were. I find the people who want to ban "improve my character" threads/discussions to be extremely tiresome and arrogant.
I would be extremely sad if the entire idea of mechanics-based character optimization were removed entirely, as I find it both interesting and fun. Some people like certain aspects of games, and to invalidate them because you disagree with what they find fun is enormously foolish. Similarly, if you are looking for roleplaying tips or ways to flesh out a character's backstory, you shouldn't be browbeaten by the optimizers. Different strokes for different folks, as it were. I find the people who want to ban "improve my character" threads/discussions to be extremely tiresome and arrogant.
There are also people who like roleplaying but are so bad with rules they make characters that can't do a damn thing - I have a buddy just like that, he wants to play his little heart out but he just has a gift for finding the precise wrong way to use any set of character creation rules.
I also, screwing around with character builds, made a human in shadowrun 4.0 that effectively can't be hurt with small arms, epecially if wearing armor - you can't start with all the stuff, but it can be done.
Personally, I think this forum is well worth doing just because it would create a smaller forum to run all the forum games in. I think that's 15 or 20 people right there that really kind of need their own space.
I think it would be busier then WB or GV, or about as busy, and it doesn't seem like the table top crowd is hard to moderate.
Of course, I think that, but I don't know how hard it would be to add a forum, and I don't have any say in picking mods, so my opinion is worth approximatly .2 kroner.
it takes a lot to get rid of a forum though. Like, you'll get all sorts of people bitching and delaying and next thing you know, the last post in a froum was months ago.
The forum you have selected does not exist
You are not special enough. Go and give yourself rights to the magic forum.
The last post was 6 months ago.
Oh, that one.
Yeah.
That was all very promising until I totally lost interest in posting here at all.
Now that I have rediscovered my inner troll however I enjoy foruming again, but have little interest in trying to revive shit that I barely even recall.
Meaning that really, we could just change the name and permissions on that forum and add a rules charter and saddle some kind of ho-mo-sexual with moderating it, and then run for the hills.
I was the only guy to finish a color anyway.
and people always think i'm paranoid when i mention forums i can't see
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it takes a lot to get rid of a forum though. Like, you'll get all sorts of people bitching and delaying and next thing you know, the last post in a froum was months ago.
The forum you have selected does not exist
You are not special enough. Go and give yourself rights to the magic forum.
The last post was 6 months ago.
Oh, that one.
Yeah.
That was all very promising until I totally lost interest in posting here at all.
Now that I have rediscovered my inner troll however I enjoy foruming again, but have little interest in trying to revive shit that I barely even recall.
Meaning that really, we could just change the name and permissions on that forum and add a rules charter and saddle some kind of ho-mo-sexual with moderating it, and then run for the hills.
I was the only guy to finish a color anyway.
:oops:
I'm about halfway done, and still have all the bits & pieces somewhere on my other hard drive.
it takes a lot to get rid of a forum though. Like, you'll get all sorts of people bitching and delaying and next thing you know, the last post in a froum was months ago.
The forum you have selected does not exist
You are not special enough. Go and give yourself rights to the magic forum.
The last post was 6 months ago.
Oh, that one.
Yeah.
That was all very promising until I totally lost interest in posting here at all.
Now that I have rediscovered my inner troll however I enjoy foruming again, but have little interest in trying to revive shit that I barely even recall.
Meaning that really, we could just change the name and permissions on that forum and add a rules charter and saddle some kind of ho-mo-sexual with moderating it, and then run for the hills.
I was the only guy to finish a color anyway.
and people always think i'm paranoid when i mention forums i can't see
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There are tons of forums the regular public can't see.
But they suck, so it's no ones loss.
TDL on
Meet me on my vast veranda
My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
As it pertains to miniature gaming (and maybe even card gaming), how would you all feel about one thread where individuals could offer their painted models/model parts/other sellable items? Stuff has been offered for sale before in the 40k thread, but it seems like it's skirting a line when it happens. One thread for that sort of thing would work, I think, if it'd be allowed.
Well... I think if people were to post stuff that they had, and mabey a note about it being for sale in the public forum. That would not be too bad.
PMs or IM from there. I don't think open bidding/tradding would be a good idea, but I don't really have a reason. Just does not seem to fit with the forum.
I would be extremely sad if the entire idea of mechanics-based character optimization were removed entirely, as I find it both interesting and fun. Some people like certain aspects of games, and to invalidate them because you disagree with what they find fun is enormously foolish. Similarly, if you are looking for roleplaying tips or ways to flesh out a character's backstory, you shouldn't be browbeaten by the optimizers. Different strokes for different folks, as it were. I find the people who want to ban "improve my character" threads/discussions to be extremely tiresome and arrogant.
I don't think anyone has been seriously purposing that. There was some mention of it being a self controling thing. That some DMs might be reluctant to accept munchkiners, but then those who just want to run some hack and slash it is right up thier ally.
I'm fairly sure that a "for sale" thread wouldn't fly, for the same reason that they don't fly in the current forums. We'd have to keep a link in our sigs like everywhere else.
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edited February 2006
I think one thing that could really help out with running table top games in the proposed ( or any ) forum would be to have a sticky listing programs such as VASSAL and other online table top simultors. These programs, usually Java based, allow players to get online together, chat, and play with alot of simulated table top features. Things like a whiteboard for simple sketches, IRC chat functions like emotes, shouts and whispers, virtual dice etc. The sticky could contain different varieties of these programs, how much that cost, and where to get them and the modules. This would free up the game on thread itself for things that can go better there. Organizing times to play, general table talk and reminiscing about last weeks session. Heck if the TT forum doesn't get going for a while, which apparently is going to be the way it is ( I'm not complaining, do whatever you guys need to do to get it right. If it's done at all. Please don't put any snakes in my mailbox. ), I just may make the thread in G&T and let the fates determine its destiny, if someone doesn't beat me to it.
I'm fairly sure that a "for sale" thread wouldn't fly, for the same reason that they don't fly in the current forums. We'd have to keep a link in our sigs like everywhere else.
It is my feeling as a forumer that this would be the case.
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edited February 2006
Just to be clear, there will be no "For Sale" threads. Anyone who wants to sell something will have to use their sigs like always. Penny Arcade is not going to be responsoble for people not sending merchandise, or not paying.
Just to be clear, there will be no "For Sale" threads. Anyone who wants to sell something will have to use their sigs like always. Penny Arcade is not going to be responsoble for people not sending merchandise, or not paying.
of course not. But if it gets off the ground, there are likely to be pewter whore threads or folks posting about thier ccg swag. Folks might, in the natral evolution of the thread might mention wanting something. From there it can go to some non forum medium.
A full on, trading/sales thread is not likely and could cause a few problems. Though anyone asuming that PA is libel is not really a valid one.
I think so. Or, at least, no one objected when various people said "setting a minimum bar for what would constitute enough activity for tenure is going to encourage retards to post stupid shit." We have rules (unless you want me to actually re-write the D&D rules thread, and change the shit directly relating to D&D so that it relates to the TTG forum instead; which seems sort of inane before we've got a forum to stick it in, but I'll do it).
I'd say kakos' idea pertaining to the minimum bounds should be looked into, since we can't say for sure what those bounds must be. The Coh/v forum has one thread that has a post in it today, so perhaps something of the manner of 6 threads with semi-regular posting? I dunno. Given the new subforum I can easily see a D&D 3.5 discussion thread, W40k, a card game or two, as well as probably 2 or 3 other games I'm unaware of just being thrown out there to test the waters of people's interests. That would probably give it some movement, active-user-wise, but who knows. It'd take time to tell whether it'd seriously survive.
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They died as a result of the people running it, and not the forum in which they were based.
hmm... not really sure how valid that is. Honestly IRL many games petter out after a few sessions, unless you have people who are rather into it and not just passing through.
Both the battle forums, africa, the cape of good hope, the hidden D&D forum, the magic forum. uh.... hot topic forums. Bringing back linksville. CYOA, I think. derr... all on the top of my head
I'm not up for thinking hard right now, but we have had more than a few forums that did not take months to get off the ground. It really does not need to take a huge amont of time.
Granted all of those forums are pretty much short lived, and many had limited lifespans anyway.
Africa was meant to be temporary, as were the battle forums. Cape of good hope? Think that was a lot like bloody africa. I have no idea wtf the D&D or the magic forum were. Hot topic forums were made to be just that, hot topic forums. And the bloody matrix and LotR forums way outstayed their welcome.
CYOA was missmanged and really too small a catagory. Even in the best of situations.
They threw the magic thing together so people would stop crapping up the various forums and the monkey den, IIRC.
Meh, I really don't get why you are so opposed to giving people what they want. What is the worst that happens? You mod a retard, he bans everyone, runs roughshod over the forum till an admin steps in. Or more likely the subforum just (metaphoricaly) crashes and burns and gets deleted.
The tabletop industry is not the video game industry. New games are not released every week. Games are often not run every week. In the meantime, the G&T forum keeps spawning ten trillion threads about [wacky japanese game x] and "help me design a computer" and "You know that game that was awesome fifteen years ago?" This is not to say that such threads are bad! Hell, at the moment I'm checking the X-Com thread every single time I sit down at the computer. But the speed at which they are created makes talking about something less constant extremely difficult. Even the Warhammer thread - which has at least five "regulars," for lack of a better word, has started falling back to halfway down the second page every day. It's just a pain in the ass.
steal the D&D boilerplate with the additions that GMs get to decide what happens in their threads. Being a douche in a running game thread is an offence.
you see any problems with that?
Someone does not want table talk, they say so in a thread. No way to prevent determined people, so why bother?
why crap it up with additional stuff? an info thread or 2 would be pretty helpful and if you are not going to add any new mods a thread where douchbaggery could be reported if it is a serious problem.
edit:like if it happens, it will have aspects of the various on topic forums. Keep the genral stuff so it is flexable. Lay down a few rules to the specifics of running a game. Help threads are for help. Art threads are for art and some critisim. debate threads are for debate. If replies are on topic, there is not a problem. If they are off topic there is already a rule against it.
Have you tried running it in SE?
Every post I make is cleverly designed to get you to post in this thread.
Entrapment.
Anyhow, I was just like, over halfway done with a draft proposal for the rules, when someone hit the switch that controls the power to my computer, so I'm starting over now. Goddammit.
Additional rules:
*Each game being run on the forums gets its own thread. Gamemasters are considered in control of those threads, and those not participating in the games shouldn't post in them without a damn good reason. Asshattery in the individual game threads will not be tolerated.
*If you want to run a game, describe it well. This does not mean "who wants to play DnD?" Your description should include:
*What game you are playing and what rules version you are using, e.g. ADnD 2nd Edition.
*The general scenario for the campaign, e.g. "this will be a Star Wars Dark Side campaign, where the characters will play evil Jedi in service to the Sith during the Knights of the Old Republic era."
*What style the campaign will be, e.g. pure role-playing, hack 'n' slash, mixed, diceless, low-power, high-power, etc.
*Any substantial deviations from the rules set you are using.
*How much experience and familiarity with the rules the players should/could have in order to play.
*Times you want to play (this can be specific, or a range, but you should probably at least eliminate the times you work/sleep).
*Anything specific software you plan on using in order to play the game, e.g. Ventrilo, IRC, OpenRPG, etc.
*Any specific to the game the players should know, e.g. using the point-buy system for attributes in DnD 3.5, limiting players to 20 points of disadvanatages in GURPS, etc.
This list is by no means exhaustive; you are encouraged to include more, but a first post for a game should contain at least the above.
*No discussion of illegally download intellectual property. Or ROMs, Warez, etc., just like on any other part of the forum.
I can't think of anything off the top of my head that we should include regarding other types of threads specific to the forum; "stay on-topic" from the rules post seems to pretty much cover that.
Btw, I am by no means proposing this as a final draft. This is just what I thought of off the top of my head. Take it as you will.
The TT threads we have had in G&T have generally been good with this but it's one of those things that any possible subforum must have put forth in the rules and monitored strictly by those put in charge (Noone wants to be sued after all)
Pretty much covered that. But sure.
I was the only guy to finish a color anyway.
My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
I once made a 3.0 character who ran at roughly 300 mph. No teleportation or whatnot, just super speedy.
There are also people who like roleplaying but are so bad with rules they make characters that can't do a damn thing - I have a buddy just like that, he wants to play his little heart out but he just has a gift for finding the precise wrong way to use any set of character creation rules.
I also, screwing around with character builds, made a human in shadowrun 4.0 that effectively can't be hurt with small arms, epecially if wearing armor - you can't start with all the stuff, but it can be done.
Personally, I think this forum is well worth doing just because it would create a smaller forum to run all the forum games in. I think that's 15 or 20 people right there that really kind of need their own space.
I think it would be busier then WB or GV, or about as busy, and it doesn't seem like the table top crowd is hard to moderate.
Of course, I think that, but I don't know how hard it would be to add a forum, and I don't have any say in picking mods, so my opinion is worth approximatly .2 kroner.
I host a podcast about movies.
and people always think i'm paranoid when i mention forums i can't see
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I'm about halfway done, and still have all the bits & pieces somewhere on my other hard drive.
There are tons of forums the regular public can't see.
But they suck, so it's no ones loss.
My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
PMs or IM from there. I don't think open bidding/tradding would be a good idea, but I don't really have a reason. Just does not seem to fit with the forum.
I don't think anyone has been seriously purposing that. There was some mention of it being a self controling thing. That some DMs might be reluctant to accept munchkiners, but then those who just want to run some hack and slash it is right up thier ally.
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of course not. But if it gets off the ground, there are likely to be pewter whore threads or folks posting about thier ccg swag. Folks might, in the natral evolution of the thread might mention wanting something. From there it can go to some non forum medium.
A full on, trading/sales thread is not likely and could cause a few problems. Though anyone asuming that PA is libel is not really a valid one.
Anyway, has Whippy not seen this thread, or just not had time to comment, or not felt the need?