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Making the world a better place

electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Or more accurately, how do you make the world a better place?

Here in D&D, pretty much every thread on a serious subject is ultimately a discussion on how we think the world could be made a better place, or what we think are impingements on projects and progress towards such.

What this thread is about, is what do you do and how do you think it makes the world a better place? It is not intended to be judgmental - far from it - the idea is to say "this is what I do, and really without this things wouldn't work quite so well/at all etc."

Personally, I'm a scientist (albeit lazy enough to be making this thread from uni). I really enjoy the fact that my life has turned out this way, since at no point can I look at it and say "well I'm just working for myself" - well I am, but I think it's to try and make a positive contribution to the world as well as for myself.

So that is the question for this thread - what do you do, and why is it important for the world? What would we lose if people didn't do it?

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm an architect, so my value to society is a little bit harder to pin. I guess it's just that we change the world with buildings because our buildings shape our society in the way we want it to be. It's cultural in the way more traditional art is, but in a more permanent and effective way.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Me and my girlfriend are really into conservation. We walk most everywhere, we make our own recycled paper, we compost and consolidate our trash, she works for an ecological conservation association at her school as well as volunteering for their recycling awareness program, etc.

    As far as things I'm actively doing rather than the passive action I've taken with regards to conservation, I like to think that I help make individuals' lives better with my job. It's really difficult dealing with kids that are in terrible, deplorable situations. As a result of what I deal with on a daily basis, I'm steadily becoming more and more emotionally void and depleted. The first time I saw a kid that really took it out of me (she had a functional IQ of about 70 and had been routinely raped by her stepfather, and worked on a chinchilla farm for her parents where her job was snapping the creatures' necks), I shook with rage for the entire day after my appointment with her. But I've been trying to keep up with the more depressing cases, and I like talking to them when they come through afterwards and seeing how they're doing. I'm not a big part, but I'm still a part of getting them the help they're going to need.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I provide fascinating and useful commentary to at least two online communities and am an unofficial goodwill ambassador for America.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I plan on becoming a teacher.

    Control the youth control the future.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i am the sole protector and keeper of the one ring
    and on my off days help administer the education of adult learners

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i don't do shit all except complain and slack off even in my self indulgent liberal arts degree

    i will argue vehemently about what's wrong with the world and do absolutely nothing to address it

    i have no intention of pursuing a career that will in any way better the world

    worst of all, i don't really care

    i'm pretty sure i'm what's wrong with the west, possibly the world

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm the same as Wonder_Hippie: I conserve when at all possible. Also I walk pretty much everywhere.

    Also also I'm good at making people laugh. That's a good thing, right?

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I try to be a good listener.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I provide random free ametuer psychological counseling and general support to an amazing variety of whacked-out women, and occasionally non-women. Also I have participated in the essential defeat and social castration of some asshole preachers who once plagued the university I attended, which has given a few hope at least once in their lives.

    Also I'm incredibly kind and ethical towards people despite hating almost all of them.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm studying to be an architectural engineer, so, uh

    I'll be making sure FirstComradeStalin's buildings don't fall and crush black babies? I don't know.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    I provide random free ametuer psychological counseling and general support to an amazing variety of whacked-out women, and occasionally non-women.

    Hey, me too.

    It's harder work than it sounds.

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  • HeartlashHeartlash Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I occasionally engage in random acts of kindness (i.e. helping a random person parked on the street dig out their snowed in car, helping people carry bags on public transit, etc)

    When people ask me how they can repay me, I usually just tell them to pay it forward.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Copied from [chat]:
    I think people have misunderstood my thread, it was supposed to be more "think about why your seemingly unheroic job is important"

    Maybe my job is too cool to appropriately convey this as the intention?

    I'm happy to work for a company that, for all it's little dysfunctional quirks and OfficeSpace moments, manages to be Not-Evil. We engage in a lot of 'lets move large sums of money around' type deals that ultimately won't matter to anybody in 20 years, but we also engage in a lot of good interesting beneficial projects, too. One that would be most familiar to the readers of this board... it was my company that pored through all of EA's records, all of their emails, mined all of their data to determine exactly how much they owed their programmers in back overtime pay when that scandal went down. We do a lot of corporate malfeasance work and not a little bit of environmental and insurance claims work, making sure that corporations pay their dues when they fuck up.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Read NonZero and feel as though your seemingly unheroic job is a single helpful facet in the grand, rolling snowball of complexity.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Read NonZero and feel as though your seemingly unheroic job is a single helpful facet in the grand, rolling snowball of complexity.

    Unfortunately it's really easy for me to see that grand rolling snowball more as a dehumanizing machine steamrolling creativity and individuality into the ground. I make a conscious to see the grand enterprise of human endeavor as being overall good and progressive despite the bad stuff, but sometimes it's a struggle and I just want to say "fuck it" to my whole damn race and go live in a shack in the mountains and hope the human race kills ourselves off without taking too many other species with us.

    Simply being a small part of a bigger something isn't nearly good enough for me. I need evidence that the bigger something is a good something. Or else I need to see that what I'm doing, here and now, is a small good directly improving the lives of the people closest to me. I need one or the other.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Read NonZero and feel as though your seemingly unheroic job is a single helpful facet in the grand, rolling snowball of complexity.

    Unfortunately it's really easy for me to see that grand rolling snowball more as a dehumanizing machine steamrolling creativity and individuality into the ground. I make a conscious to see the grand enterprise of human endeavor as being overall good and progressive despite the bad stuff, but sometimes it's a struggle and I just want to say "fuck it" to my whole damn race and go live in a shack in the mountains and hope the human race kills ourselves off without taking too many other species with us.

    Simply being a small part of a bigger something isn't nearly good enough for me. I need evidence that the bigger something is a good something.

    ...read NonZero.

    ...

    On topic:

    I tell people to read Nonzero.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I've read a bit of game theory and pretty familiar with the concepts of zero-sum versus non-zero-sum, what does NonZero offer beyond that?

    I'm asking here because it appears to be thread-relevant.

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    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    I've read a bit of game theory and pretty familiar with the concepts of zero-sum versus non-zero-sum, what does NonZero offer beyond that?

    I'm asking here because it appears to be thread-relevant.

    It combines those with a look at history, dynamics of society and some futurist speculation. Also some stuff on the nature of consciousness.

    One observation is that, as costs of communication gets cheaper (the internet basically making communication dirt-cheap, and it's only getting cheaper), the possible and likely impact of individuals at all levels of society becomes far more significant.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    I'm the same as Wonder_Hippie: I conserve when at all possible. Also I walk pretty much everywhere.

    Also also I'm good at making people laugh. That's a good thing, right?

    :^:

    I'm moving (finally) towards growing my own veggies. Anyone with a backyard or balcony ought to, I think; low-density urban areas frequently have a much higher potential productivity than the land use before it - often pasture around here, although there's an exception to be made for forested areas and former market gardens, which are being built over at an alarming rate. This forces people to buy from further away, meaning a shit-tonne more effort in terms of shipping, storage, packing, middlemen. Its pretty staggering how much energy can be saved by a few tomato plants out the back.

    I avoid long-term debt.

    I don't let my kitten outside where she can eat the wildlife (well, right now they'd probably eat her, but still)

    I try not to yell at bus drivers even when they're being gits :P

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I shelve books at a library so that people can find the books they want and read them.

    Where would the poor be without me?

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  • theparttimetheparttime Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    hey i shelve books too, among other nice things that i try to do. also when i am more financially secure I hope to do more grand things in making the world a better place. Not exactly positive how i'll go about doing that yet.

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    I don't let my kitten outside where she can eat the wildlife (well, right now they'd probably eat her, but still)

    Just out of curiosity, how is eating wildlife worse than eating chopped-up domestic animals that are in the cat food?


    And I work at Subway, so.... like, you guys hungry? Because if you are I could probably make the world a less hungry place.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I work in the Navy so protecting America etc etc. I also usually spend a few hours on Saturday volunteering at the local pet shelter helping out where I can. I conserve where I can though it's usually limited to just power usage right now. In the future I hope to either have a degree in cultural anthro and spend my time getting people to work together or, though I have no idea what it would entail, work as a translator at the UN. I also look forward to fostering pets when I finally live in a house.

    Oh, and not having children. Because even if Colleen and I ever did want any, we'd rather adopt.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    Cervetus wrote: »
    The Cat wrote: »
    I don't let my kitten outside where she can eat the wildlife (well, right now they'd probably eat her, but still)

    Just out of curiosity, how is eating wildlife worse than eating chopped-up domestic animals that are in the cat food?
    Most of our wildlife is endangered specieseses. Plus, chickens are evil. And there's an argument to be made that pets eat the animal bits we don't, handling a waste problem. Although it'd probably be more efficient to thermal-depolymerise it.

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  • real_pochaccoreal_pochacco Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, on the enviromental side of things, I don't have a car, I don't know how to drive one, and my current plan is to live my life for as long as possible without doing either of those things.

    Other than that, I'm in college hoping to eventually end up as a psychoanalyst or some other flavor of psychodynamic therapist.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Oh, and not having children. Because even if Colleen and I ever did want any, we'd rather adopt.

    Me and Sarah, too. I really like kids, but I've never liked the idea of creating more than 2 or 3 biologicals. We figure we can just skip the biologicals and go straight to adoption.

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  • SolventSolvent Econ-artist กรุงเทพมหานครRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Disregarding my current enrolment in University (although I hope that it will someday be useful to society), I work to help children to swim. While they're in my class I also help them correct bad grammar, teach them synonyms in an effort to get them a more interesting vocabularly and introduce them to division: "Now, this pool is twenty-five metres long. If we swim half a lap, how far have we gone?" So coming out of my classes they can talk about their exciting (not good) day, swim a bit better, and they know half of 25 isn't twelve, and it isn't thirteen either.

    Also, I still assist in running big console LANs every few months. So I like to think that I help some socially maladjusted peeps get out from their Xbox-Live routine for a while and you know, face-to-face interact. Helping people is cool even when they're not poor and can afford their own Xbox 360 right?


    ...Damn, I wish I could afford an Xbox 360 and play with them...

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, on the enviromental side of things, I don't have a car, I don't know how to drive one, and my current plan is to live my life for as long as possible without doing either of those things.

    Until you need to outrun the zombie apocalypse. Then who's Mr. Silly?

    My mother and I have a gaggle of homeless kids we try to keep fed and out of trouble. Some days are easier than others. I also try my best to alleviate the current energy shortage we are having.

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  • grendel824_grendel824_ Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I second the teacher thing.

    I also believe that time is an illusion and that nothing is ever "gone." Therefore, I think the meaning of life (or at least A meaning) is to create as much happiness as possible in oneself and in others. I try to do that whenever I can.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i teach, and honestly imparting knowledge is maybe 40% of what my job requires

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    My current future plans involve being a writer and an entrepreneur.

    So that basically means I will be bettering the world in two ways:
    1) By making myself lots of money.
    2) By using my ideas, my writing and my prose to advance (inter)national cognizance.

    That second one sounds a lot more douchey than it actually is, because I personally believe that you should not be able to read a book without taking something away from it. So I'm not saying I am going to be the next Orwell and shake the earth, I'm just saying that I am going to write and people are going to read and learn.

    If I fail as a writer, well, then, I'll just make money and be materialistic, and thereby make the world a better place.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, on the enviromental side of things, I don't have a car, I don't know how to drive one, and my current plan is to live my life for as long as possible without doing either of those things.

    Other than that, I'm in college hoping to eventually end up as a psychoanalyst or some other flavor of psychodynamic therapist.

    Sorry to tell you this, but that might not be better.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Sometimes when I go to a coffee shop, I pay for the person behind me.

    I don't know if that qualifies as making the world a better place, though. Probably not.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It might not be a huge deal, but I just discovered Freerice.com, and I plan on spending a lot of time with it. It's basically a series of definition questions, but every time you get a right answer, 20 grains of rice are donated to the UN World Food Programme.

    You aid a charity through testing and enriching your vocabulary. It's one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    I play long-distance mother, every few months, to should-have-been girls that have none otherwise. I smile at everyone I pass on the street, and make funny faces at children behind their parents' backs. Whenever it's time to speak or to write, I try to do so entertainingly, and I play with cats on cats' terms.

    I provide, intermittently, sexual gratification for people trapped in relationships that are not sexually fulfilling.

    In the future, I will write a memoir, and I will raise beautiful children that smile at everyone they pass on the street, play with cats on cats' terms, and respect everyone -- even those people they cannot understand, or those whose conduct they cannot condone.

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm essentially useless to society, but eventually that'll change. Also, while you guys are out there doing epic, life-changing deeds, I provide the comic relief.

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  • SamiSami Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I don't know, to an extent that was very much my motivation for making this thread because a big theme of D&D which Shinto once drew excellent attention to with his "Democracy in action" idea was that we're pretty damn well informed but often too very well informed of just how powerless we are to effect change in a lot of ways.

    I've been really struggling with this for the last couple of months. I see all these things happening in the world, and I have this desperate, painful need to do something-- ANYTHING to try and help. But I'm a 19 year old college student-- I'm useless to anyone that can do something. I'm an optimist, and I definitely see the best in people and situations, but it's so fucking frustrating to have to do a bunch of meaningless essays so that in 4 years I can get a piece of paper that lets other people know that I'm intelligent, driven, and capable-- but what good are those traits if I can't do anything with them?

    So I do what I can. I donate as much time to the Obama campaign as possible. I'm chronically poor because I give my money away to Heifer, Amnesty International, and Invisible Children. I don't eat meat and I conserve as much as possible. Yesterday I signed up to be a Big Brother.

    It just doesn't feel like enough.

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  • Double_FacesDouble_Faces Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm an actor, and my training has taught me that my job is useless unless I specifically try to change the world.

    My disagreements with other actors comes when I explain how I plan to do that.

    You see, for them, they wish to make all this anti-establishment work. Anti war, anti Bush, anti everything they consider "mainstream".

    I don't disagree that the work is important, but I know that most of this world doesn't want to be preached at, but wants to be entertained. I've always felt that the greatest good I can do is bring people together with my art.

    The idea of having the black woman laugh next to white man while watching my work is the ultimate goal in my mind.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    What I'd love to do is figure out ways for everyone to get the maximum possible utility out of the technology that surrounds us. Right now, the average computer user has something on their desk that has more computational power than every computer in the world from 1930-1990 put together. They use it to play Solitaire, play Flash games, and occasionally type. Changing that by making it easy for people to use the technology around them would be cool.

    I also really got off on the idea of Fab Labs, tiny manufacturing centers that cost like $10,000 and let you build almost anything you can think of on demand. Bringing those to more people would be excellent, just as a way of eliminating the need for a gigantic factory to produce a shitty little plastic chair or whatever. You want one, you pay $0.10 for the material and make it yourself. I really think that if the cost could be brought down, the average home or at least community would be all over these things.

    Basically, I'd like to make the future that is already here more accessible.

    As for what I do right now to make the world a better place:

    I pretty the joint up, the ladies agree.

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